The 2008 411 Year End Wrestling Awards (Part 3)
Posted by James Thomlison on 01.07.2009
Who gets a trophy today?
Welcome to Part 3 of the 411Mania.com 2008 Year End Wrestling Awards. If you haven't already, be sure to check out Part 1 and Part 2!
REVIEW: Before we get to it, let's take a look at the winners we've already announced to this point:
Announcer of the Year: Jim Ross – WWE (57 points)
Rookie of the Year: The Osirian Portal (Ophidian & Amasis) – CHIKARA (38)
Breakout of the Year: Tyler Black – ROH/FIP (38)
Comeback Wrestler of the Year: Chris Jericho – WWE RAW (86)
Disappointment of the Year: Hardy's again suffers Wellness issues – WWE (50)
Best Indy Show of the Year: Supercard of Honor III – ROH (21)
Free TV Match of the Year: Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga – Steel Cage Match – WWE (42)
Worst Story/Surprise of the Year: Jeff Hardy not only violates Wellness, but then suffers even further setbacks by having things like his house burn down and his dog die – WWE (61)
Story/Surprise of the Year: Ric Flair's retirement angle culminating in his retirement ceremony on the 04.01.08 edition of RAW – WWE (55)
Worst Feud of the Year: Black Machismo vs. Sonjay Dutt – TNA (64)
Feud of the Year: Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho – WWE (76)
Worst Storyline of the Year: Vince McMahon's NO CHANCE! – WWE (39)
Storyline of the Year: Fallen: The Trials of HBK – WWE (49)
And now that we have that out of the way…
Today's Dark Match Award:
Spot of the Year: Naomichi Marufuji reverses the Briscoe Brothers' Springboard Doomsday Device into a Shiranui while in mid-air (NOAH) - 30 points
2nd Place:Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling () - 34 points
And your winner is...:
Total Nonstop Action () - 47 points
Daniel Wilcox: Oh man, where do I start? While I don't think TNA treated us to anything as bad as Pacman Jones this year, they certainly gave us a whole lot of crap that came close. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a TNA booking meeting, because those things must be one hell of a party, complete every kind of drug and liquor you can think of. It's become cliché to mock TNA for their ridiculous booking decisions but that's because they make so many of them. We can talk about all of the ridiculous gimmick matches they've subjected us to – Drinking Championship Series, Fish Market Street Fight, Stand By Your Man Strap match, Cuffed in the Cage, Queen of the Cage, Deuces Wild Tag Tournament, Makeover Battle Royal, Black Tie Brawl and Chain match, Ladder of Love match, Feast or Fired – I could go on. One has to wonder how these things were ever allowed to come to fruition. And then of course, there's all the ridiculous skits and character makeovers. Stone Cold Shark Boy anyone? Super Eric? The Prince Justice Brotherhood? Remember AJ at Granny's house? "Sarah Palin"? Suicide? The fact that Christopher Daniels is still stuck in that Curry Man gimmick? It's surprises me that people are surprised that people consider TNA a joke.
The worst part of it is, TNA is preventing themselves from succeeding by putting some of their most talented performers in ridiculous gimmicks, which in turn prevents the fans from taking them seriously. Thankfully AJ Styles has recovered from his lovesick sheep gimmick and has regained some credibility, but you have to think that not everyone will do the same. If TNA wants to be considered as a serious alternative to WWE, they have to take themselves seriously before anyone else will. It's case of learning to walk before you can run, because if TNA can't use their most talented people correctly, how can they expect to get the best out of the rest of their roster? It just seems that for every one angle or wrestler they book well, there's a Feast or Fired match or a Stone Cold Shark Boy skit waiting right around the corner.
Jeremy Thomas: Someone's going to hate us for this, I know it. That's okay, though. I won't deny that in 2008, TNA did a lot of things right. They gave us a couple great storylines, such as the Main Event Mafia vs. the Frontline. They gave us a lot of good matches, too. They hit their all-time ratings high, even. All in all, 2008 has to be considered a pretty tolerable year for Total Nonstop Action.
"Wait a minute," I hear you say. "Isn't this supposed to be WORST Fed of the Year?" That's quite right, dear viewers. Because let's be frank…while TNA gave us some good stuff in 2008, they gave us a whole, big bloody mess of very wrong. From January all the way through to December, Dixie Carter and the Jarretts' promotion proceeded to make wrestling fans grind their teeth in frustration at all the wasted potential, stupid angles, retarded gimmick matches and just flat-out mistakes they made. Don't believe me? Sit back and relax, my friends, as I take you through the wrongs that TNA put us through over the last twelve months.
Start back at Final Resolution, the first Pay-Per-View of the year. We had the beginning of things that just didn't work, from Eric Young and James Storm's silly drinking contest that took up way too much time—although hell, thirty seconds of this on Pay-Per-View would have been too much time. Instead, we got it spread out in three separate and equally stupid segments that resulted in Storm winning. Alongside this we got a six-man Ultimate X match for possession of the X-Division title, a weak match that watered down the very concept of Ultimate X. Instead of saving one TNA's most unique matches for something special, they used it to inject something interesting in order to save the match and the silly angle behind it, and the stip suffered as a result.
Of course, that was just the beginning of the year…we were just getting started. Barely a month later TNA would set the bar for Worst Match of the Year by putting poor Kaz, mired in a pointless and stupid feud with Black Reign, in a Rat on a Pole match. I know this match will be talked about elsewhere, at great lengths and with a lot of deserved hatred, but I'll just say that it reaches new levels of inanity when you take a man like Kaz, who's gotten huge wins during his run in TNA, and put him in a match this retarded. Meanwhile, the drinking contest had blossomed into a full-blown drinking championship. It was at times like this that I felt I deserved a title myself for getting through some of this stupid crap.
I'll be honest, I could keep going blow by blow with all the bad things that have run through TNA this year, but by the time I was done I would probably have written the longest article 411Mania has ever seen. Hell, I've been summarizing and skipping stuff already, so let's just get down to it. They botched Samoa Joe's title run, and botched it badly. This was a guy who fans were frothing at the mouth to see get the title and they took forever and a day to get it done. Joe had choked time and time again before finally winning the gold in April at Lockdown. They would then put him in bad situations time and again where he looked weak, including the epically dumb "You can't beat Booker T" mess that ran through Victory Road and Hard Justice, part of which was overshadowed by Sting's impending return. Meanwhile, we had the insanely bad Deuces Wild Tournament which did no one any good. Even the Knockouts Division started to suffer, as we got the absurd Knockout Makeover Battle Royale in which the ladies were portrayed as spoiled brats and poor Roxxi got her head shaved. All in all, this is just a sampling of the stuff we've had to endure.
The biggest problem with TNA is that it has all the tools to succeed. It has the talent, it has the following, and it has everything it needs. If it would just stop doing so much stupid crap then it could easily take off into the stratosphere. We get a reputation for hating on TNA, and that's simply not true. We want it to succeed, and nothing would make us all happier if they did. In order to do so, however, they have to take the next step and cut out all the bush league stuff. When they do, they'll finally earn their way off the top of this ignominious list.
Mathew Sforcina: OK, here's the thing. From an objective point of view, this is a rather silly award, in that I'm sure you can find some indy fed out there that ran a few shows this year where no match broke 1/2 * and was filled with bad wrestling and stupid, boring interviews. I think most of the voters realise this. But TNA is a different kettle of fish. TNA should be awesome. You have some of the best wrestlers on the planet, some of the biggest names, some of the most charismatic, some of the best talkers, some of the best females, a great production guy, a decent set up, committed leaders, good agents and a guy on staff who was 'responsabe' for saving the WWF and bringing about the hottest period in Wrestling history. How can that not work, how can that not lead to greatness?
Well, for the most part, TNA managed it. A lot of it involved Black Reign, some of it Samoa Joe, and all of it was mismanagement and failure to utilize the talent. There is no reason that TNA cannot be, while not a step for step rival to WWE, a solid alternative product that makes money and slowly grows. TNA should work. Recently it's made some strides towards that goal, but constantly overreaching, constant rehashing of WWE, constantly short matches and bad angles, just constant bad moves. TNA gets this award because while it's hardly the worst company in history, it's certainly one of the most mismanaged. TNA has to get it's stuff together, and work out just what it CAN do, and do it. Until then, it'll be this... entity that everyone wants to see work, but never will. Being in the black is all well and good, but when you're the alternative, you have to be an alternative, and you can't be one if you don't get things right. Here's hoping next year we do get to give this award to some small time garbage indy fed...
James Craig: It is only to easy to join in the pile up on TNA. I, for one, actually like TNA and have, at different intervals, felt that they have produced a superior product to that of the WWE. This isn't always the case, and this year was a tough year to be a fan of the promotion. It seems for every step forward that TNA takes, they manage to find a way to take two steps back. Much of the blame for what is wrong with TNA seems to get pointed at Vince Russo, and I do think he deserves his share of the blame, but it isn't just him. TNA's problems seem to be systemic, coming straight from the top and working their way down through the booking team and ultimately to the active roster.
One problem TNA has always had, but seem to only run with this year was a tendency to focus mainly on one aspect of the promotion and almost push other things to the side, or focus on the wrong things. If the Knockouts division takes off, then the Tag division suffers from a lack of attention or the X-Division. Actually the X-Division hasn't seemed to matter since 2006. It is really hard to get behind a company that consistently has false starts in pushing talent (Kaz and Tomko), pushing unsigned talent or using some talent in truly wrong ways (Joe as a whiney and very unlikable champion in his very first and way over due run).
TNA needs to get over this tendency to over book ppv's with gimmicks. This also isn't something new to the promotion, but again, it seems to have gotten worse this year. This type of booking burns a fan out, and really takes away from the special feeling the "big" gimmick matches are supposed to have. Overuse of gimmick matches isn't the only problem in this regard, but there are so many goofy matches, or unnecessarily complicated matches that it is hard to take TNA seriously. This isn't to say that the competitors don't do the same, but the sheer volume of which TNA goes about this is what puts them over the top.
There are god points to the promotion, and it always seems that the promotion is jussst on the verge of overcoming its' own goofy and self destructive decision making. The year 2008 just seems to have been a year where a perfect storm formed over TNA and didn't let up all year. The glints of light that came through this year can leave fans with hope for 2009, but for 2008, TNA just couldn't overcome itself and as a result, was this year's worst fed.
Honorable Mentions: Mike Adamle's Farewell Speech (WWE, 6 points), AJ Styles at his Granny's (TNA Impact, 01.03.08 – 16 points), Larry Sweeney forces Bobby Dempsey to rape Allison Danger (ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08 – six points)
3rd Place:Booker T BURIES AJ Styles (TNA Impact, 05.01.08) - 17 points
McMahon's Million Dollar Mania, culminating in Vince getting buried as a result of shoddy workmanship and/or sabotage (WWE) - 24 points
Jarrod Westerfeld: This one is a bit over my head, to be honest, because this wasn't exactly the promo in the general sense that we associate with wrestling. This was a business promotion to try and gain viewership on a gimmicked hook of "watch and win money" which is typically looked down upon as a last ditch effort to fix a problem that other, more conventional ways, could have salvaged them. I am befuddled with the sheer stupidity of Vince McMahon to think that he could gain the necessary viewers to make the USA network happy by giving away portions of the profits that he collects every quarter when what we fans have really been wanting is better wrestling, stronger stories and character development and a overall better product. Thanks Vince, you went from the iconic genius of this mother fucking industry to the dumbest asshole in the turn of $4 million dollars being handed out, great move – Jeff Jarrett is jealous you stole his title, and Jerry Jarrett is in total awe of the fact that he, along with many other men, lost out business to you! How do you even do this? To turn around so completely that you're on the same level as the idiot that drove Ric Flair out of the WCW/NWA brand by suggesting he dress up to look like a Spartan before it was even cool to mock Frank Miller's 300 is fucking incredible.
Congratu-fucking-lations, Vince, you've once again showed us that you weren't right for this industry by pulling this stupid stunt out of your tall glass of manure and feeding it to us on a weekly basis all while never giving us what got your business on a hot enough streak to survive the impending doom loaming over your head in the form of Turner's enterprise. Then to cap off this magnificent roll, you have the BRAND NEW stage collapse upon you, starting up a new storyline that went absolutely fucking nowhere. Even Katie Vick had a purpose in this industry, and a payoff. What's the payoff to your current story? Oh right, NOT A GOD DAMNED THING! We got Adamle as the Raw GM for about a coffee break, we got Stephanie and Shane feuding over the direction of the company in your absence in a brief moment and nothing has come of the chaotic, let-loose, sloppy management of your staff that resulted in a "fan" doing Batista's jig on live television in the backstage area and a light randomly falling in the middle of a backstage interview.
Thank you Vince, you've truly given so much to us fans. Now fucking stop it and allow others to give us what we'd actually like. You know, like how you allowed Vince Russo to become the best writer of our generation before he went off to WCW and showed that he's a fucking lunatic who should've remained in your tight little cage, only allowed to go out with a leash and a plastic bag to clean up the pile of dog shit he tends to leak out.
Mathew Sforcina: OK, I'm sure the majority of people who won cash were happy with these things. And we got a pretty cool Rickroll out of it. But this whole Mania thing was just... bad TV. Stilted performances, dead time, no forward momentum, reeks of desperation, and a finish that was a 3rd time attempt at an angle that was awkward to sit through. Here's the thing, if I watch wrestling, I want wrestling. Vince McMahon, while being an owner, can wrestle, and he can talk. He's better in small doses, but he can do that. If he DID do that, if he had been targeting a wrestler in a series of promos, and then ended up injured at the hands of this wrestler, while we may have gotten Vince V God again, we would have at least had an end point that was a good thing, in that you'd have a beloved/hated wrestler who took out The Boss. Instead we got Vince looking old while dialing a phone while Ric Flair pathetically Wooed next to him. And the worst thing is, since it's yet to be firmly answered, this might still get brought up! Eventually we'll find out how Steph/who Steph/who really took Vince out. It's like a black cloud over everything, but hey, at least it might lead to, you know, a wrestling match...
Jeremy Thomas: The Million Dollar Mania could probably be considered a bad idea from the get-go. The plan was sound enough…give away a whole lot of money and use the publicity to lure people in that might be reminded that the WWE was not a company that should be solely remembered for steroid trials and Chris Benoit. It was a way to grow the company's audience, and in that at least it was sound. However, those very people who would potentially be tuning in to view were then forced to watch the segments in which Vince would stand on the stage with a phone and a podium filled with money and then bore the living hell out of us. Never mind the fact that it smacked of desperation—"We'll pay you to watch us"—it was the execution that truly stunk.
Things were bad from the get-go, as on the very first giveaway segment, he got introduced to the internet phenomenon of Rick-Rolling. When your promo time is being stolen away by Rick Astley, you know you're in serious trouble. The next one resulted in three separate tries to get someone on the phone before they were finally able to give away some cash. It was embarrassingly awkward, as the winners sounded…remarkably unexcited and Vince didn't seem to know how to use the phone properly. You'd think this would have been fixed by the next week, but on the first segment he fumbled again. At least we had happy people then, but still it was pretty painful to sit through. Meanwhile, ratings didn't rise at any level of significance. Hell, for the first week, it was the exact same as the week before. So the plug was pulled, but not quietly and subtlely. No, we needed one more mess out of this before it was all going to go wrong.
On the last Million Dollar Mania Raw—which was also the Draft episode—we got six segments worth of this whole thing. They were just as painful as the previous weeks for the most part, with the exception of a Flair appearance and some good comedy with Khali. Then, the last segment of the show, he gave away a huge amount…half a million. As soon as it was done, a light fixture fell and hit the stage. There was an awkward pause and then sparks flew, the stage collapsed, and Vince was "crushed" underneath the Million Dollar Mania sign. Amidst all of this, while wrestling fans were rolling their eyes at another apparent "Someone's trying to kill Vince" angle, it was all played off as serious, and at least took the boss off the TV since.
There are so many reasons why this all went wrong…how boring it was, how messed up the stage collapse was and the embarrassing faux pas with the process. But perhaps the biggest problem is how drastically it failed. The ‘E (or Vince, one of the two) gave away three million dollars fruitlessly, as nothing changed in the ratings decline. So in the end, we were put through all of that for nothing. Gee, thanks guys. Really.
Stephen Randle: I assume we're talking the sum total of all his Million Dollar Mania promos, because really, they're all pretty equal in how horrible they were. From the very first show, when it seemed like they'd sent Vince out there with absolutely no script and had him frantically trying to ad-lib while an answering machine gave him a well-deserved RickRoll, all the way down to the sad ending of Vince getting crushed by the stage, despite it being obvious that it couldn't have realistically even ruffled his hair on the way down, the entire contest was a painful series of unfunny jokes, fake enthusiasm, and a guaranteed waste of about thirty minutes of Raw every week that it aired. Thirty minutes that could have been spent, oh, I don't know, putting on a quality product and raising the ratings that way, instead of poorly planned publicity stunts.
Honorable Mentions: WWE Great American Bash (9 points), TNA No Surrender (4 points), ROH Undeniable (1 point)
3rd Place:WWE Survivor Series () - 21 points
2nd Place:TNA Destination X () - 26 points
And your winner is...:
TNA Sacrifice () - 55 points
Larry Csonka: While this wasn't my selection for worst PPV of the year, I certainly cannot hold it against anyone for disliking this show. First of all it was easily the worst TNA PPV offering of the year, I have no problem saying that. The Deuces Wild Tag Team Tournament was 90% horrible. Only the final match was worth watching, and it wasn't like that was a memorable match since it was only a *** bout. The Terror Dome Asylum was fun as was the main event, but that was it, it was just "fun." A few bright spots on a pile of shit is just a sparkling pile of shit. The show felt as if it was 8-hours long, the crowd was burnt out, and they just put on SO MUCH SHIT (10-Matches, 7 of them tag matches, and it all felt the same. And then, if all that wasn't enough, we had the head shaving of Roxxi. An angle that on that night hurt Gail Kim because she was put in a bad position and then when you consider the fact that they never followed up on like they should have, and this was just a giant cluster. DO we even need to discuss the fact that the chicks that were shitty and couldn't even get into the ring had nothing done to them, but the woman that came in "2nd place" got her head shaved? That about sums up how bad TNA can be at times.
Daniel Wilcox: I think that 2008 has been a very good year for PPV, as WWE, ROH and TNA have all managed to put on good shows more often than not. One major exception to this rule would be TNA's Sacrifice, perhaps best remembered for Kurt Angle having to drop out of the show due to injury and being replaced by Kaz in the main event for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. Now credit where credit's due, Kaz worked twice that night but his presence in the main event, alongside Samoa Joe and Scott Steiner, wasn't enough to make up for the lack of Kurt Angle and the atrocity that was the rest of the card – predominantly made up of the ridiculous Deuces Wild Tag Team Tournament. As WWE has demonstrated recently with their Intercontinental Championship tournament, tournaments can go a long way in returning a degree of prestige to a mid-card title, but this Deuces Wild Tournament managed the complete opposite, because a regular tournament wasn't good enough. Eight singles competitors were randomly assigned tag partners, making up four makeshift tag teams, who more of then than not, had no interest in teaming with each other, thus making the entire tournament a waste of space. As it happened, the four regular teams advanced anyway, rendering the whole mess a waste of time. There wasn't a stand out match in the entire tournament, and the only redeeming factor is the fact that LAX walked out as champions. The rest of the show featured an average Knockout's Battle Royal and the debut of the Terror Dome, an admittedly fun match but, like everything else on the show, entirely forgettable. Actually, that's not entirely true, because certain things about this show were memorable, just for all the wrong reasons.
Randy Harrison: Remember Battlebowl. Remember how cool the concept seemed, yet how lame it was when it was finally jammed into practice? Well, if you take Battlebowl and add in a splash of Tag Team Championship, you have the Deuces Wild tournament, one of the worst ideas ever to come out of TNA. This pay-per-view was made up mostly of the Deuces Wild matches and saw all the classics like mismatched partners who hate each other and all of those other chestnuts that seem to come about with tag team tournaments. The thing that's so silly about the tournament is that they ended up having two tag teams who are actual tag teams (Team 3D and LAX) meet in the finals of the tournament. It left the whole tournament feeling pretty pointless. Add in the hideous TNA Knockouts Makeover Battle Royal, which only got three and a half minutes but by the time it was over, felt like an hour. Poor Roxxi Leveaux ended up with her head shaved at the end of it and the crowd chanted "Fire Russo", which is part proper sentiment, part frustration at having to see that kind of crap on a pay-per-view show.
This show also saw Kurt Angle pull out of the main event against Samoa Joe and Scott Steiner, leaving Kaz to step into his place by winning the Terror Dome match. While it was a cool moment to see Kaz in the main event and it should have led to much bigger things for him, it's also a big blow to a pay-per-view to lose one of your major stars so close to bell time. What really bugged me about it was that they waited until the show had begun to let any of their fans know that Angle was pulled from the show. That bait and switch really turned me off and started me in a bad mood before the show even began. The only cool thing about the show was the debut of the Terror Dome, but not so much for the match as for the structure. I always dig seeing the new structures that companies can come up with for matches and this one didn't disappoint. Sure, the match ended up being like every other X Division clusterfuck and sure they only had two legitimate option to win the match (Black Machismo and Kaz), but it was still a pretty good ten minutes. Ten minutes does not a show save, and this show was beyond saving. It's not that it was actively bad, just that it was so boring and bogged down with gimmick that it was hard to see any of the good.
Joseph Martinez: 2008 was a surprisingly deep year in terms of pay-per-view quality. However, it's crazy to believe that every PPV is going to be a classic. 2008‘s worst PPV of the year was marred by run-ins, a confusing tournament and overall average matches.
It all began with a stroke of bad luck when Kurt Angle was ruled out of the main event where he was scheduled to face Samoa Joe and Scott Steiner. The replacement for Kurt Angle was the winner of the Terrordome, Kaz. Another bad aspect of this PPV was The Deuces Wild Tournament, which can be best described as confusing.. This creation revolved around the idea of an established team facing off against a team of random individuals. This led to classic tandems like BG James and Awesome Kong and Booker T and Robert Roode. Another confusing idea was the TNA Knockouts Makeover Battle Royal, where the loser (who technically outlasted 8 other competitors) had to shave their head. It was a gutsy move by Roxxi Laveaux, but the stipulation was unnecessary. TNA made the right call by not allowing Kurt Angle to compete in the main event and Kaz did a great job as a substitute which saved the PPV from becoming an all-time bad one.
Honorable Mentions: Mark Henry w/ Tony Atlas vs. Matt Hardy – ECW Title Match (WWE SummerSlam, 08.17.08 – 5 points), ODB vs. Velvet Sky (TNA Impact, 06.05.08 – 1 point), Big Dave vs. Kane (WWE RAW, 08.25.08 – 17 points)
2nd Place:Dave Batista vs. Chris Jericho, or Dave & Jericho vs. or… who knows… - Adamle Original Gauntlet Match (RAW, 10.20.08) - 20 points
And your winner is...:
Kaz vs. Black Reign – RAT ON A POLE MATCH (TNA Impact, 02.07.08) - 58 points
Jarrod Westerfeld: You can think of the worst match as being the one filled with the most botches or a serious lack of chemistry between the workers, you could even think it involves guys you don't like who just don't do anything for you. Everyone has their own definition of what makes a good match and the same can be said for bad matches. While there will probably be a few out there who enjoyed this match and think this is too harsh a criticism to lay upon this bout it must be said that, objectively, there was a lot wrong with this match.
To start off with, the production values of this match were atrocious. The fact that this was part of a taped and edited show and yet there were still camera shots that missed things used for the broadcast, shots that captured things they should not have captured and that it was all edited in a poor enough fashion should speak volumes of how bad this match comes off. Then there were the issues of the props involved in the match looking excessively cheap and horribly put together; the poles having black painted mail boxes attached to them, the rat traps having prop cheese on them, the poles being low enough for the two workers to see inside of the mail boxes, the cage for Misty being almost as big as the mail box it was stuffed inside. A litany of issues covered this match from beginning to end and all that can be said of this match is this: it was so bad that it accomplished absolutely nothing.
All of the hard work put into this bout by Kaz was for nothing as Dustin Rhodes is just so sluggish and so stiff in his movements. To require Black Reign to sell so much when he is incapable of selling the type of spots that Kaz was pulling out was a huge mistake. It also didn't help that the final spots of the bout were so rushed and lackluster that it made for every flashy move before it seem completely useless as Kaz only needed to incapacitate Black Reign with a single boot, allowing him enough time to climb the turnbuckle and retrieve the prize of the bout and the victory. As Ryan Byers' said of this match on his Impact Crater report, "[a]s funny as the match was, I actually got a little bit sad during its climax. See, despite the fact that he was stuck in a ridiculous gimmick match and despite the fact that he was wrestling one of the least mobile guys on the roster, poor Frankie Kazarian was still going out there and busting his ass." All that hard work by Kaz and it still came off as the worst match of the year.
Daniel Wilcox: When talking about TNA, the term "wasted potential" seems to come up a lot. Taking a young, talented and very popular performer like Kaz, who at the beginning of the year was seemingly on his way to superstardom, and putting him in a feud with Black Reign, over a rat no less, is the true definition of "wasted potential."
The culmination of this feud was the God-awful Rat on a Pole match. Because of all the prizes worth fighting for in the wrestling business, Black Reign's Arctic Fox Misty is right up there. There were poles on four corners of the ring, each one with a box attached. In one box was the rat, in the other boxes were mouse traps. In theory, that makes for an interesting concept, but the poles weren't all that high and we could clearly see that the participants could see into the boxes, yet they still put their hands in the boxes with the traps. This match just exposed how bad the booking of the company could be and how badly thought out and planned the production was. Kaz tried hard, but getting a good match out of Dustin Rhodes in 2008 is no easy feat. These two never clicked and their feud has to be considered one of the worst of the year, this match merely putting an exclamation point on that statement.
Randy Harrison: While he's proven to be injury-prone, Kaz is a very good wrestler and he was very deserving of the push that he received late last year when he was wrestling main eventers like Christian Cage and Kurt Angle in high-profile matches. He deserved far better than to be stuck with this horrible match against a less-than-motivated Goldust knock-off. That's not even touching the hideous rat on a pole gimmick that they got saddled with. Anytime that Dustin Rhodes isn't Goldust, he's been horribly unentertaining and this match was no different. A match with stuff on a pole is generally a dumb idea and a bad match, but the prop poles and mail box thingies that TNA used for this one were even more hokey than the props they used for Rhino's "Eight Mile" Streetfight. For wasting someone as talented as Kaz on this horrible a match, having Dustin Rhodes in a match period, and for having something as stupid as a rat being what was fought over, this is possibly the easiest choice there's been for worst match of the year in quite some time.
Ryan Byers: One of the hallmarks of TNA's idiocy over the years has been the fact that the company takes otherwise talented wrestlers and puts them in situations in which they are handicapped by either their opponent or a gimmick and unable to work up to their full potential. That's exactly what happened when Frankie Kazarian locked it up with Dustin "Black Reign/Goldust/The Natural" Runnels in February of this year. The two of them locked it up before as part of their feud and the two of them would go on to lock it up later, and every time it was clear that Kazarian's high impact, high flying offense was being impeded by Runnels, who appears to still understand the mental aspect of the sport despite the fact that his age, injuries, and excess weight have prevented him from being as physically impressive as he once was. However, no iteration of their feud was more embarrassing than the epic RATS ON POLES~! Match.
For those of you who missed it, allow me to explain. You see, Chocolate Reign carried around a rat as a part of his gimmick. Despite the fact that he was supposedly a valiant babyface, the company decided that it would be a good idea for Kazarian to further the feud by stealing Dustin's pet. Faster than you could say "Bobby Heenan versus Matilda," the Son of a Son of a Plumber and the Southern California indy standout were battling it out in a match in which the custody of the rodent was on the line, a stipulation that still gives little Dominic Misterio nightmares.
Of course, putting things on poles and having wrestlers run up to retrieve them is nothing new in TNA. It seems like somebody has to shimmy up an extended ringpost every other week in the company. However, the architects of this match made sure that it would be an extra large, heapin' pile of suck. Yes, Kazarian bumped his ass off trying to make something decent of something that was otherwise destined to wind up in this very position. Despite his best efforts, he came up short.
Why? First of all, the match failed in presentation. When WWE puts together a structure for a special gimmick match, it is visually impressive . . . just look at Hell in a Cell or the Elimination Chamber. Even TNA gets this right 90% of the time as evidenced by the Terrordome or Elevation X. There was nothing remotely visually appealing about this match's setup. In fact, it's almost as though somebody in TNA production went out of his way in order to make this appear low rent. The poles looked normal, but TNA needed to find containers for the rat that was on the line in the match as well as the three mousetraps which were set to clamp down on the hand of any man who chose the wrong corner. What did they do for these containers? They apparently went down to the local Home Depot, bought the cheapest mailboxes they could find, and spraypainted them black. You could even see the little holes that were left when the flags were ripped off the side.
The second major problem with the match was in the execution. Even if the concept wasn't mind-numbing and even if the setup looked fine, you still had to deal with the fact that whoever put the poles together didn't make them quite long enough. Both competitors, particularly the deceptively tall Dustin Rhodes, were able to easily see in to the mailboxes once they popped them open. This meant that, once they were standing on the top strand, they had to either duck or inexplicably look the other way so that they wouldn't be at eye level with the traps that they were supposed to be avoiding. And, besides, if you knew that you were potentially putting your hand in to a box containing a mousetrap, wouldn't you AVOID sticking your hand straight in? Wouldn't you move it to the left or the right in an attempt to brush up against the side of the trap instead of placing your fingers in such a position that they are sure to be smashed? Sure, you might be bright enough to think of that, but apparently these two professional wrestlers aren't. Then again, one does have to wonder how Black Reign could even be injured by a mousetrap given that he wore thick rubber gloves out to the ring for every one of his matches.
In short, this had all of the ingredients for a godawful gimmick match. First of all, the gimmick didn't add anything to the quality of the bout and probably took away from it. Furthermore, the setup looked ridiculously silly. Finally, it made both the competitors and the company incompetent. That's why this one is going down as the worst match of 2008.
Be sure to check out Part 1, Part 2, Part 4 tomorrow, and Part 5 on Friday! Thank you for joining us for the 2008 411mania Year End Wrestling Awards!
Way better than part 1 or 2...not sure if Larry Sweeney should have been included in worst promo granted that most of the 411 writers felt it wasnt outlandish and sort of justifiable. I didnt mind it too much. Perhaps HHH should have got a mention for all those annoying insider comments.
Oh well...I guess it's a subjective opinion
Posted By: christy (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Survivor Series imo was the worst match of the year. How was HHH Vs Kozlov not nominated as the worst match of the year. Batista Vs Jericho somehow did though.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:42 PM
The WWE had the best year in history. They did everything right and I loved the McMahon giving away money. Oh btw Survivor Series was the best ppv of this year or any Survivor Series.
Posted By: y2j420 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Larry Sweeney forces Bobby Dempsey to rape Allison Danger (ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08 – six points)
wait what?
Posted By: Guest#0293 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:46 PM
ppv I mean not match.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:47 PM
All TNA Matches sucked while all WWE matches ruled. TNA has zero talent.Vince is GOD!
Posted By: y2j420 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Sweet Jesus! nothing, absolutely nothing, sucked as much as McMahon's Million Dollar Mania, which proved that not only does Vince have NO IDEA what his audience wants or who they even are, but that nobody in that whole company (HHH included) has the balls to tell him.
Posted By: chocolatejesus (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Just a slight correction on the Spot of the Year. Marufuji countered the Briscoes' Springboard Doomsday Device with a Shiranui Kai, not a regular Shiranui.
Posted By: bluedragonx (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Just a slight correction on the Spot of the Year. Marufuji countered the Briscoes' Springboard Doomsday Device with a Shiranui Kai, not a regular Shiranui.
Posted By: bluedragonx (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Who? What? Nobody cares about the Briscos or anyone in ROH
Posted By: K-Money (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:29 AM
RoH has nearly put themselves out of business...and they don't even get a sniff of worst fed?
I should expect nothing less from a site whose writers freely admit to not watching the product that they review/list/bash.
Posted By: Guest#6959 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Larry Sweeney forces Bobby Dempsey to rape Allison Danger (ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08 – six points)
wait what?
Posted By: Guest#0293 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Uhh, yeah, me too. What?
Posted By: Guest#8217 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:30 AM
All WWE Matches sucked while all TNA matches ruled. WWE has zero talent.Jarrett is GOD!
Posted By: rvd420 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:45 AM
The Briscoes are still wrestling? I thought Jerry was a road agent. And what's a Marufuji?
Posted By: Juicemakesugar (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Who? What? Nobody cares about the Briscos or anyone in ROH
Posted By: K-Money (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Stupid troll. If you know that the Briscoes are from ROH, then it looks like YOU care.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:09 AM
McMahon-mania wins worst promo?? Come on, these awards are just an excuse to complain about the same stuff you've been complaining about all year.
Posted By: bob (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:25 AM
Information on the Dempsey-Danger-Sweeney segment can be found through this link and scrolling down to the bottom of the page for the 2008 You F***ked Up section:
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/93288
Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered) on January 07, 2009 at 01:51 AM
Who? What? Nobody cares about the Briscos or anyone in ROH
Posted By: K-Money (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Stupid troll. If you know that the Briscoes are from ROH, then it looks like YOU care.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:09 AM
Or that it's posted just a few paragraphs above numbnuts
Posted By: Erik (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 02:03 AM
Larry Sweeney forces Bobby Dempsey to rape Allison Danger (ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08 – six points)
wait what?
Posted By: Guest#0293 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Uhh, yeah, me too. What?
Posted By: Guest#8217 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:30 AM
myself as well. it says it was ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08. i'm going to look for a review.
Posted By: 6d6 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 02:19 AM
Here I go again.
In a year where we see TNA put forth arguably their best financial year, while WWE is making less money than they were in recent years prior, and while also seeing a host of these darling indy promotions teetering at the near point of shutting down, HOW IN THE HELL DID TNA GET WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR!
Now I know that this is supposed to reflect the opinions of the writers on this site, but are you serious?
As stupid and over-the-top as some of the gimmick stuff was in TNA, Super Eric and the Prince Justice Brotherhood for an example, it worked!
TNA took something that should've probably come off hokey and, not only, made money with it; they also used it to try and get some of their homegrown talent over, having the crowds connect with the wrestler and care about what they are doing, rather than sitting on their hands, waiting for the big "ooo" spots.
TNA was able to find a way to MAKE MONEY with Sharkboy! Former-perpetual, Impact jobber, Sharkboy.
TNA took Eric Young, and turned him into one of their top midcard babyfaces, who now looks like he might have a chance as a upper midcard/main event threat! Honestly?
I could go on and on, but this is running long, so I'll cut it short.
The final point I'm going to make is TNA is never going to be a straight wrestling show, as hard as that it for many on this site to digest.
TNA is never going to be ROH, and probably never wants to be, and the sooner people accept that fact, sup moral, the sooner they can see TNA for what it is.
TNA is striving to be what all true wrestling fans want wrestling to be, a perfect blend of all the different aspects of wrestling that fans are entertained by and want to pay to see.
When you go to a restaurant, you don't just ask for the "best" appetizer on the menu, sup ROH; you ask for a full on meal, that you can enjoy from start to end.
TNA is old school booking, wrapped in "new age" wrestling, presented with elements of Russo's infamous "CrashTV" style.
TNA has the blend of wrestling styles, TNA has the storylines, TNA is developing the character/angles, and TNA is willing to take the risks, be it the guts of pushing a 50 year old near the top of the card, or the confidence that they can take a guy, who never truly "panned out" Up North, and find a way to build them into a star, and sold draw, for the company.
Yeah, TNA isn't perfect. Yes, sometimes to often, they go a bit crazy with the different types of gimmicks that they try and come up with, some of the angles end up feeling pointless, and some of the people they've hired never deserved, even a chance, to be on TV.
Still, TNA is nowhere near the worst.
Not when you have debacles like WSX and the "Old Yeller" of US indies, IWA-Mid South.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 03:48 AM
Roh sucks.
WWE is awesome.
TNA is ok.
Posted By: James (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 04:14 AM
Wow that one dude who keeps voting roh as the worst is my favorite writer now.
Posted By: Dominick (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 07:15 AM
Any link to the Briscoe-Marufuji move not simmed by some nerd on SvR08?
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 08:08 AM
Got it. Sweet.
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 08:12 AM
You would think that these guys were on WWE's payroll or something. TNA worse than Hogan's fed? Really?
Posted By: GUEST! (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 08:44 AM
"Worst Promotion of the Year: TNA"
Damn straight...
Posted By: y2j420 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 09:44 AM
now, Jeremy Thomas said "someone is going to hate us for this" meaning that he knew what was coming. How is TNA the worst fed? The majority of u guys on this website are just incredible. There are some which are un-biased but the vast majority are down-right haters. U mean to tell me Hogan's promotion is better? That just proves my point and alot of other people's points that the majority of this site is are geared against TNA. Granted Tna has definitely had their horrible moments and many of them, but on this site tna's bad ALWAYS outweights their good. I've never heard of a fed being the worst with the most talented roster, bad booking decisions....yes, but the worst? Not a chance, it's not like ALL booking decisions were bad, there were many good things that came in 2008 from tna.
Posted By: cj (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 10:29 AM
And now cue the whining from the losers that simply see TNA voted as worst promotion and then choose to skip the explanation or avoid it because of their desire to remain willfully ignorant.
TNA gets the award for one simple reason - despite having what, on paper, is a roster vastly superior to WWE, they can't manage to draw 1/4 of WWE's viewers. WHY????
How can you have future stars like Joe, AJ, Daniels, Storm, and more along with legends like Foley, Sting, the Dudleys and Kurt Angle, and not be able to break 1.3 in the ratings?
Because the writing SUCKS. Many of the angles make no sense. Talent that should be built up is instead made to look weak and pathetic (see Joe, Samoa). People that are around long past their prime are allowed too many opportunities to get over at the expense of the young stars instead of building them up (see Nash, Kevin).
This, combined with too many people trying to do the booking in too many different directions, is what leads many people to compare TNA to the ending days of WCW. Too many primadonas, too much focus on older guys that will be broken down and gone in another year or so while ignoring the talent you're going to need to carry the promotion once the old guys are gone. What, is TNA expecting to sign another WWE reject when Kurt Angle leaves or finally dies in the ring?
TNA has massive potential. I can't tell you how much I want them to succeed. But the fact that they have all these things in the plus column and still can't break a 1.4 rating means that the company is the worst fed of the year.
Posted By: Scott B (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Not a single vote for WWE as worst fed? Outside of jericho and Michaels, WWE has been utter shit this year, so much so I stopped watching the last couple of months.
And Undeniable getting a vote for worst PPV, are you serious? I thought this was a fantastic PPV, and was in fact my PPV of the year. Guess I must be out of touch with what the rest of the world wants from wrestling.
Posted By: The Gunman (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 11:34 AM
If you guys are saying TNA was the worst because they were doing the least with the most, I beg to differ. NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY has more than WWE. Here's a fed thats been around for decades with an unlimited library of great matches to refer to from its own, WCW and ECW. They have a larger group of future hall of famers than any other promotion. They have the most money of any promotion. However, they suffered the biggest hit in ratings this year. Raw has hardly been tolerable. Their ppv's have sucked badly with bad endings, senseless angles and horrible divas. Then there's million dollar mania, Mike Adamle, Smackdown's World title Tournament, Batista's 100 main events, please, I can go on and on. like someone else already said, Michaels/Jericho was by far the best angle going and the lone bright spot that I can remember about last year. So if I choose to go by the logic of these writers, I guess the WWE did the least with the most, but they don't even place??? TNA has only been around for 6 1/2 years. I don't know why people tell them they shouldn't try to compete with WWE yet, but the same people want to compare the ratings of TNA to WWE. In terms of growth, and development, TNA was the best. WWE's ratings suffered the biggest hits and even their big four ppvs didn't deliver collectively. But they're not even on the radar as the worst. Show me the logic in that.
Posted By: Fed up (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Kane vs. Chavo at Mania wasn't considered worst match of the year? It was a major championship match on the biggest show of the year and it ended in 10 seconds. How did that not even get nominated?
Posted By: Ramsey (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:05 PM
scott b, my thing is this, like I said in my earlier post, it's really not the WHOLE site that I think is geared against tna because there are some guys that are just un-biased. It's stuff like saying hulk hogan's ccw is better than tna, can u honestly vote that? So, U say they focus on the older guys, while I do agree that they DID do that unnecissarily early BUT it's unfair to say that now seeing as the mem-frontline angle is still going on and the young guys are going major over at the end, and since when did ratings have anything to do with them being the worst fed?
Posted By: cj (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:17 PM
I concur with everyone on the comments section and how ridiculously biased the 411 staff is in their overwhelming support of WWE as if it's the best federation out there. Note to the 411 staff: longevity does not equal greatness.
The Gunman was right, outside of HBK-Y2J, name me one enjoyable aspect of WWE this whole year. Unlike TNA, they do absolutely NOTHING with their tag team or mid-card divisions seem important, and they have THREE TIMES the roster size.
You guys get so blinded by one or two promos by HBK and all of a sudden that is the basis for a great feud and a great federation. Never mind the fact that we're exposed to the same stale main event time after time.
Yes TNA needs work, but at least they have a storyline that is interesting to watch. They take their tag team division seriously and they use actual wrestlers instead of bleach blond bimbos for their Women's divisions.
Posted By: Ryder (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:30 PM
cj,
The reason TNA deserves to be voted as worse than Hogan's celeb wrestling is because TNA constantly squanders the vast pool of talent they have. Potential is constantly ignored in favor of nonsense. That is why TNA is the worst. We're not talking just one aspect, we're talking about the overall picture. Yeah, Hogan's thing is bad. Yes, as one reviewer said, there are probably a lot of indy feds around the world that put on worse shows. But when you put the whole package together, TNA deserves the award because they have so much yet seem to constantly strive to do the least with it.
TNA wants to be considered competition to WWE. They want to be seen as equals. If that's their mission statement, then they're failing horribly... but since it's their mission statement, that's what is looked at when they are voted as worst fed.
Posted By: Scott B (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:39 PM
ROH got 1 vote for worst fed of the year!
WOW
Posted By: Conor O'Boyle (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:59 PM
Anyone after a video of the Marufuji/Briscoes spot, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23D1CcJnFVM
Posted By: Owain J. Brimfield (Registered) on January 07, 2009 at 02:44 PM
cj,
The reason TNA deserves to be voted as worse than Hogan's celeb wrestling is because TNA constantly squanders the vast pool of talent they have. Potential is constantly ignored in favor of nonsense. That is why TNA is the worst. We're not talking just one aspect, we're talking about the overall picture. Yeah, Hogan's thing is bad. Yes, as one reviewer said, there are probably a lot of indy feds around the world that put on worse shows. But when you put the whole package together, TNA deserves the award because they have so much yet seem to constantly strive to do the least with it.
TNA wants to be considered competition to WWE. They want to be seen as equals. If that's their mission statement, then they're failing horribly... but since it's their mission statement, that's what is looked at when they are voted as worst fed.
Posted By: Scott B (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 01:39 PM
Now, granted TNA has made some horrible decisions with the younger talent, i'll agree there, but they haven't completely squandered. How could they be failing horribly when they influence wwe on some things such as trying to have a decent WRESTLING women's division. How could they be failing when the x-division, granted it's definitely not what it used to be, but still greater the ic/us title division. Tna has had some horrible storylines right along with wwe. They are not on wwe's level yet but they are definitely taking small steps. If this award is based not on one thing but an overall award, then I don't see how wwe will get the best fed. based on wrestling, which they will anyways. If u look at it, we all know that the heavyweight division is the only thing that matters in wwe. Now, they've had some great tag matches and ic title matches but nothing that makes me say, man this division actually matters now. The only memorable thing about the tag division was Miz and Morrison. Every last groundbreaking, spectacular memorable, remember I said memorable, moment has come from the heavyweight division. y2j/hbk feud, edge/taker feud, CM punk wins the WORLD title, Jeff hardy wins the WORLD title, hbk/flair feud, along with many more. But we all also know that wwe is a global juggernauht, they are great at production, and they're the richest fed. around so they will win.
Posted By: cj (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 03:13 PM
Scott B., I have to agree with CJ. WWE is the ones who did the least with the most. its like Fed up said, No one has more than the WWE. I would admit that I think TNA has the more talented roster from a wrestling standpoint, but too many people spend too much time giving the E a pass, but we throw a less than seven-year old company under a bus? What is the deal? There is NO excuse for TNA being the worst wrestling fed because they've grown the most with a new set, video game, though it sucked, spreading over seas and another global impact is great for all wrestling fans. They had a ton of great matches including the X-cup matches and MEM/Frontline is the most interesting angle going right now. There is simply no explanation for them being the worst fed of the year and WWE not even being close. They have the most and, to me, have done the least.
Posted By: BJBII (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 03:30 PM
Dude, ANYONE crying about TNA being the worst with the response of "Worse than Hogan's fed?!" get a hold of reality.
That was a television show. That was NOT a frickin real wrestling federation. It's like winning a Real World Challenge or something.
My God, it shouldn't have even been an option to vote for it.
However, no way is TNA worse than IWA: M-S. Come on, guys.
Posted By: Oswald (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM
And now cue the whining from the losers that simply see TNA voted as worst promotion and then choose to skip the explanation or avoid it because of their desire to remain willfully ignorant.
TNA gets the award for one simple reason - despite having what, on paper, is a roster vastly superior to WWE, they can't manage to draw 1/4 of WWE's viewers. WHY????
How can you have future stars like Joe, AJ, Daniels, Storm, and more along with legends like Foley, Sting, the Dudleys and Kurt Angle, and not be able to break 1.3 in the ratings?
Because the writing SUCKS. Many of the angles make no sense. Talent that should be built up is instead made to look weak and pathetic (see Joe, Samoa). People that are around long past their prime are allowed too many opportunities to get over at the expense of the young stars instead of building them up (see Nash, Kevin).
This, combined with too many people trying to do the booking in too many different directions, is what leads many people to compare TNA to the ending days of WCW. Too many primadonas, too much focus on older guys that will be broken down and gone in another year or so while ignoring the talent you're going to need to carry the promotion once the old guys are gone. What, is TNA expecting to sign another WWE reject when Kurt Angle leaves or finally dies in the ring?
TNA has massive potential. I can't tell you how much I want them to succeed. But the fact that they have all these things in the plus column and still can't break a 1.4 rating means that the company is the worst fed of the year.
Posted By: Scott B (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Are you honestly going to try and sit there, while solely blaming the PRODUCT for TNA's rating?
If having a phenomenal product was the only criterion, ROH would be selling out Hammerstein Ballroom every year, but they're not, and they probably won't ever.
When have you ever seen a commercial for TNA, on any channel besides Spike? It's ridiculous how simple you make yourself look.
You know why WWE draws what it does? Maybe it's because their flagship show has been on TV for over a decade, for a company that's been around for almost 30 years!
Maybe, it's because WWE has countless channels and networks, where they promote the product!
If quality of wrestling was the only factor for ratings, do you honestly believe that the WWE would be at a 3.0?
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 04:53 PM
I see I need to re educate a few people
Ok TNA deserved the worst fed of the year award by far.
For a company with such a deep talent pool to have to rely on such terrible writing and baseline crap gimmicks to try and make themself a standout is beyond retarded.
How exactly is tna so diffrent from Heat when one of their longtime champs was not borrowing,not modeling after,but stealing 100% of a gimmick from an 80's early-mid 90's heyday worked named randy poffo.
I could then call out the announce team but that one really is a tough call.
WWE has good commentators,but can't seem to pair the good with the good,king and jr worked so well when king was a heel and jr the face
Whenever it was king became face the team became boring.
Say what you will about workers being good or not . This is ENTERTAINMENT not sports,I want to be entertained,TNA rarely delivers entertainment anymore
Me,I miss global impact the weekly webcast.I never missed one.now the online content is an excuse to sell shitty memorebelia
That aside.the workrate in tna is among the top around,the workers are oozing machismo err talent
Now I cannot say I enjoy say 90% of the promos from people not named joe or nash or shelly
But I mean really look at Shiek formerly davari's work so far,now why did the 'E never use him as an in ring talent?
Tna definatlly has the world at it's fingertips but will they ever realize it?
Posted By: Showster (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 05:29 PM
Hmmm TNA worst fed? Wow someone hates TNA much. Sorry but TNA is not the worst folks. Get over it and neither was the WWE. Also the worst match? Sorry I think Kane vs Chavo at WM24 was worst than that. Seriously so many biased idiots on this site. TNA is good but there's just so many "E" nut huggers here that can't put down the kool-aid.
Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 09:02 PM
"Anyone after a video of the Marufuji/Briscoes spot, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23D1CcJnFVM"
And here's a clip of Naomichi Marufuji's Shiranui Kai for those who don't understand why the Marufuji/Briscoes spot is so damn cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ7hszMTz-E
Posted By: bluedragonx (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 09:29 PM
TNA FUCKIN SUCKS!!!
Posted By: Guest#9470 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 09:47 PM
How can you people not have Chave/Kane WM24 as worst match of the year? Who didn't get pissed off at the match on WM nonetheless! Of course rat on a pole was stupid as fuck too so I can't blame you.
IWS:MS is the worst company of the year. I was actually entertained by TNA in the summer/October/Turning Point/MEM vs Frontline. That and they made a profit which is always good. Joe's reign was lack luster, there was the usual TNA bullshit but honestly Prince Justice Brotherhood was over at No Surrender. Overall 08 was a good year for TNA. Got great nor perfect. All they need to do is somehow spread their name out and grow which can't be easy for any buisness.
Posted By: Colin (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 09:53 PM
Chavo Guerrero vs. Kane was an innocuous ten second match that had nothing botched and conjured up thoughts of King Kong Bundy vs. SD Jones for us old schoolers out there who have been around for a while.
Kaz vs. Black Reign had RAT TRAPS. ON A POLE. IN A WRESTLING MATCH.
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR--end of sentence, end of story.
Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered) on January 07, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Wow...TNA overwhelmingly gets the worst fed of the year award, not from 411 writers...say it aint so!
I want to thank the one guy who voted ROH worst fed of the year. It's not that I think it was, but maybe that person realises most people don't want that! Myself and alot of the people who frequnet this site are pure wrestling fans. you can give us 3 hours of straight quality wrestling and we will sit there and enjoy every moment of it.
The average fan, won't! Most people want angles, they want storylines, comedy, gimmicks, gimmick matches, video segment, promos and the likes. They want production quality, and an attractive looking product.
If pure wrestling was all it was about, IWA:M-S or WSX or even WWE would be at the bottom of the totum pole. But a good FED needs much more than that to be successful.
Most on this site would call ROH the top promotion, but where is there nationaly teleivised programs? What cable channel can I turn on to see them? nada, no tv...cause outside of us, no one cares.
TNA isn't a WRESTLING company, it's a Wrestling Entertainment company, focusing on all aspects of the product. and it made...MONEY! TNA had it's best financial year, WWE had a terrible one. Isn't the ultimate measure of success making money? Moving upward? TNA is in a better place than this time last year, ROH is in the same place it will always be. WWE had a very down year too, but they'll get the love cause HBK and Jericho carried the promotion half the year.
I'm not bashing anyone on this site, but really, think about the big picture before criticising.
Posted By: Pat (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 11:20 PM
"Chavo Guerrero vs. Kane was an innocuous ten second match that had nothing botched and conjured up thoughts of King Kong Bundy vs. SD Jones for us old schoolers out there who have been around for a while.
Kaz vs. Black Reign had RAT TRAPS. ON A POLE. IN A WRESTLING MATCH.
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR--end of sentence, end of story."
Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered) on January 07, 2009 at 11:11 PM
It was a 10 second CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH. That was the worst match of the year and at WRESTLEMANIA.
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR--end of sentence, end of story. STFU stupid kid.
Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 11:41 PM
So does that make Bundy vs. SD Jones the worst match of 1985? Does that make the Bret Hart vs. Mountie 3 second match the worst match of that year?
Short doesn't automatically mean worst in the world, but your mother probably already told you that to comfort you.
Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered) on January 08, 2009 at 12:30 AM
So does that make Bundy vs. SD Jones the worst match of 1985? Does that make the Bret Hart vs. Mountie 3 second match the worst match of that year?
Short doesn't automatically mean worst in the world, but your mother probably already told you that to comfort you.
Posted By: Ari Berenstein (Registered) on January 08, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Again idiot it was a 10 SECOND MATCH, A HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE ON THE LINE, and at WRESTLEMANIA. You are an idiot that can't get that through his thick skull. Did I say those matches you listed were bad no but if you think a ten second match between Chavo and tubby Kane was better than the lame gimmick match then you're stupid. Both we're bad but Chavo vs Kane was
THE WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR.
DEAL WITH IT.
P.S
What the hell can you do in a 3 second match? Of course it's a bad match idiot.
Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on January 08, 2009 at 03:29 AM
Seriously...? TNA the WORST FED?
Daniel Wilcox,Jeremy Thomas,Mathew Sforcina and James Craig you're all F*CKING IDIOTS. All of you either DIE or Change that award cus no way, no how is TNA the worst Fed. Wow this site (or at least the wrestling section of it) is utter garbage with biased "E"tard idiots that wouldn't know what good wrestling is unless it was their precious WWE where it's all generic or that spotfest called ROH. C'mon TNA worst than "CCW"? Wow change this award and give it 2 the CCW instead. I'm fine with TNA getting the worst match award and I won't bother arguing about the Worst PPV either. However for you four biased retard to give an award to TNA for "Worst Fed" is stupid and I hope you jackasses burn in hell.
P.S
Don't bother with your stupid assumptions thinking I'm a TNA mark or w/e. I love all wrestling but 4 TNA 2 get the worst fed award is RETARDED.
Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on January 08, 2009 at 10:02 AM
The most amazing thing about the commentary about "Worst Promo of the Year" is that nobody mentioned the obvious - it was a horrible idea that didn't seem legitimate at all!
Yeah, I know that a regulatory company watched over the proceedings. But nobody on the phone sounded enthusiastic to win the money. The people that won the booby prize amounts ($16, $1, etc.) didn't seem pissed at all. And if there needed to be clearer sign that something wasn't kosher here, somebody in the audience in the final giveaway just happened to win some money! You'd have a better chance of hitting the lottery while getting struck by lightning at the same time!
We're led to believe a lot of things as wrestling fans which makes many of us cynical. So I'm surprised nobody calls this contest out about being 100% legitimate.
Posted By: Jason S (Guest) on January 08, 2009 at 01:11 PM
How does TNA keep getting these votes when the staff voting for them freely admit to not watching it?
Posted By: Guest#7523 (Guest) on January 08, 2009 at 02:53 PM
Larry Sweeney forces Bobby Dempsey to rape Allison Danger (ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08 – six points)
wait what?
Posted By: Guest#0293 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Uhh, yeah, me too. What?
Posted By: Guest#8217 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 12:30 AM
myself as well. it says it was ROH 6th Anniversary Show, 02.23.08. i'm going to look for a review.
Posted By: 6d6 (Guest) on January 07, 2009 at 02:19 AM
LURK MOAR... Noobs...
Posted By: King Nikolai (Guest) on January 09, 2009 at 08:41 PM
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