Brooklyn Brawlin 01.14.09: Picking the Most Royal Rumbler of Them All
Posted by Dan Torkel on 01.14.2009
30 Men compete for glory... I am betting the house on Hurricane Helms!
Welcome and greetings to all. Last week in my column I asked what type of year 2009 would be. Based on the last 7 days, I can predict… FRICKING AWESOME! Whatever your opinion of TNA is, no one who watched this past Sunday's Genesis ppv can deny that we got two legit 4+ star matches with Sabin/Shelley for the X-Division Title, and Angle/Jarrett 2. Then, on Monday we get first, the return of Ted Dibiase Jr. to REJOIN Orton, which I love, and then a great main event with another Cena/Michaels classic. 13 days into 2009 and 3 MOTYC. Not too shabby.
The WWE will open their ppv market this year with the 22nd installment of the classic Royal Rumble. This is one of the only two times a year I will willingly shell out money for ppv, along with Wrestlemania. Last year, while everyone including me was shocked by the early return of Cena to win it, I feel it was a down year for the Rumble. First of all, while we all know the Rumble is the main draw, a good title match always adds to it. Last year's event had a huge build to the Orton vs. Jeff Hardy Title match and the match felt flat and rushed, especially the out-of-nowhere ending. There was Flair vs. MVP where no one bought MVP as ending Flair's career, and Edge beating Rey in a short, interference filled match. Now we get to the Rumble. We understand the surprise factor of Cena, but that being said, Cena's return ruined the kayfabe quality of the Rumble. I remember back when I was a kid freaking out when Flair got number 3 and loving listening to Bobby Heenan go nuts screaming, "IT'S NOT FAIR TO FLAIR" for an hour. I remember Ted Dibiase buying #30, and then getting #1 the next year and last 45 minutes. When Benoit won in 2004, he was given #1 as a punishment by Paul Heyman and was forced to survive. And just two years ago, #30 won the Rumble with Undertaker, breaking the myth of #30 as a tainted number. It was not at all believable that Cena returns and just happens to be #30; especially given the Triple H was given #29. It made for a good pop, but hurt the quality of the event in hindsight. To top things off, Cena didn't even wait till Wrestlemania, as he cashed his shot against Orton at No Way Out.
So who gets to run with the ball this year? The biggest problem with the Rumble over the past few years has been that only a handful of wrestlers even have a shot at winning. We know for instance, that unless hell has frozen over Kofi Kingston will not be standing on the top turnbuckle at the end pointing at the Wrestlemania sign. That is not a slight to Kofi, just the cold hard truth. So who are the lucky handful who have the legit shot of winning this year's Royal Rumble? Examining the current roster and current angles going on we can devise a list of the top contenders to head on to Wrestlemania…
1) Triple H – Duh! Triple H is not a World Champion, and thus is the top choice to win the Rumble. A Rumble win for Hunter could lead to two intriguing matches: 1) Cena/Triple H III or 2) Edge/Triple H with no stupid Vicky angle to ruin it. Cena/Triple H III has got to be the top match money-wise after the potential of Batista/Cena was taken away with injuries. Triple H has also been battling Vicky on Smackdown and fighting through her challenges so it does set up a potential showdown with Edge. The down side of this is one word: predictability. We all expect Triple H to be fighting in the main event of Wrestlemania every year. Last year he won the Elimination Chamber at NWO after losing the Rumble to Cena. Since 2000, he has been a part of a main event title match at every Wrestlemania except WM X-7 (where he faced Undertaker) and WM XXIII where he was injured. Also, Cena/Triple H would be only the 3rd WM one on one main event to repeat along with Bret/Yokozuna and Austin/Rock.
2) Randy Orton – A heel winning! No Way! But this is perfectly logical. Since his return from injury he has been looking to restore the Age of Orton, and with Dibiase and Rhodes with him, he reminds me of Kurt Angle circa 2003 when he got Team Angle (Benjamin and Haas) around as support. The potential match up for Mania would be him and Cena one on one which makes tremendous sense. You have the two young dominant; self made WWE stars going at it. More off, from a booking standpoint, these two never blew off their feud which has been going on since the summer of 2007. Orton was set to feud with Cena when Cena got hurt, triggering Orton's substitute feud with Triple H and the Age of Orton. Then they rushed their Wrestlemania match ending it in a DQ, which led to a triple threat last year, and then again, another Orton/Triple H feud. The cons of Orton are that the Cena rivalry hit a high note when Orton punted Cena's dad, so where can the feud go from there?
3) Shawn Michaels – He's not in the Rumble right now due to the JBL angle, but one has to think HBK will be there. Maybe Vince throws him in next week. Although I am not a fan of the origins of the angle, JBL and HBK have played their parts perfectly. I would love to see HBK help JBL win the World Title against Cena, and then go into the Rumble and win it to blow off the JBL angle in Texas at Wrestlemania. HBK could get his last hurrah at WM XXV in his home state and begin his final year in the company. The negatives of this are of course, JBL main eventing Wrestlemania. Also, the been-there-done-that appears again as it would be HBK's 3rd Rumble win (albeit first since 1996). A Michaels/Cena one more time match could also draw especially in Texas.
4) Undertaker – Two years removed from his first Rumble win, Taker could be a major threat again in 2009. He has been in the World Title match at two straight Wrestlemanias and this one is in Texas, his home state as well. Maybe the biggest match possible out of the entire roster would be Cena vs. Undertaker (Title vs. Streak). Wanna turn Cena heel? Have him end Taker's streak at Wrestlemania in Taker's hometown! Then have him go crazy cocky and brag about it for months. I think that would draw huge heat. The fact that this would be Taker's third straight WM title match and 2nd Rumble win in 3 years makes it a bit of a rehash, but it's Taker and no one will care.
DARKHORSES –
5) Edge – Just like Survivor Series, Edge can lose to Jeff Hardy, and then be given a spot by wife/general manager, Vicky Guerrero. A win would totally be in character for the "ultimate opportunist." Of course, Cena/Edge and Edge/Jeff have been done before so it doesn't lead to any originality.
6) Matt Hardy – Writing this on Tuesday, I am forced to read the spoilers for tonight's ECW and I saw that Jack Swagger defeated Matt Hardy for the ECW Title. With Jeff a champion and Matt not anymore, they can pull the trigger on a Matt/Jeff feud, with Matt being Jeff's attacker. Although, does anyone buy Matt at Royal Rumble winner? Then again, did anyone buy Jeff as World Champion?
7) Christian Cage – That's right! The Peeps go wild as Christian returns home and wins the Rumble. If we go way back to the summer of 2005, Christian began and never finished a feud with John Cena. Plus there is always the Smackdown side where he can go super heel as Jeff's attacker, or super face and feud with Edge. It's a long shot, but why not right?
So who is the favorite? Who gets the Diesel push? Who will last the longest? Personally I feel Shelton Benjamin and John Morrison will get longevity awards. CM Punk will have a good showing as well, and count on Jericho to be placed back in after his "firing." Big Show, Kane, and Khali will add the big man contingent. Personally, I think Orton makes the most sense, so naturally I am going with… TRIPLE H to win the 2009 Royal Rumble! Why, because he is Triple Frickin' H and Cena/Triple H III is the match I feel Vince will go to for Wrestlemania XXV.
Have a great rest of the week and as always, have fun storming the castle!
Orton will win it, it'll come down to Orton, Cody, Ted & HHH where HHH will eliminate Cody & Ted and then get eliminated by Orton.
Posted By: Tyler (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 03:18 PM
I think Jericho might be a dark horse too, just like edge, he has that opportunistic thing going for him, maybe vince says he has 1 more chance at the royal rumble, or something like that
Posted By: ScottieD (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 03:49 PM
I'd love if the Rumble was won by a midcarder they're trying to push instead of an established main eventer. Then they push a cinderella story angle.
For example, Finlay, Morrison, Kofi Kingston.
Not my Idea, but I forgot the commentor who mentioned it a while ago.
Posted By: Freakzilla (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 04:14 PM
"Then they rushed their Wrestlemania match ending it in a DQ,"
Dude, the WM24 triple threat did not end in a DQ... It ended when Orton punted the H's and then pinned Cena.
Posted By: Todd Vote (Registered) on January 14, 2009 at 04:25 PM
I'm predicting an Orton win this year, just like I did three years ago when lightning struck Rey Mysterio and turned him into Cinderella or whatever other cliches you can smash together. Plus, I'm still waiting to see that Orton/Cena Last Man Standing match, goddammit! If it happens at WrestleMania 25, that's sure to blow their feud off in style.
I'm also hoping for Edge/Triple H, with the stipulation that we're all forced telepathically to forget their weak-ass mini-feud for the WWE strap last summer. Then again, it did add a new superfluous moniker for J.R. to use in reference to Triple H: "The Marriage Killer"!... What's that? He doesn't call Triple H that? What a waste...
Posted By: KanyonKreist (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 04:40 PM
todd.... there wrestlemania match was rushed because they had it at no way out where orton dqed himself... then they made the triple threat match instead of 1 on 1
Posted By: pixelhbk (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 04:53 PM
I think he meant No Way Out.
Posted By: Guest#7331 (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 04:53 PM
How does Jericho not get a mention yet Matt Hardy does? Granted I can see the Matt Jeff World title match but Jericho has been THE star of Raw for the last year. After Batista Squashed him most thought it was back to the mid-card for him but he bounced right back and got another World title run. Dont count out Our Savior.
Posted By: Andre (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 05:13 PM
Hope it's not Matt Hardy......
Orton or Jericho would be nice...but I expect a Shawn Michaels victory just because he's not supposed to be in.
Posted By: Daffo97 (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 05:59 PM
I'd have to agree with Tyler. I think Orton is going to use Priceless/Legacy to help him eliminate people throughout the Rumble and HHH is gonna be Super HHH and take it to all three of the, eliminating Cody/Ted and then Orton tosses HHH out.
Though if they wanna blow out Legacy, you could have Ted win by tossing Orton. That'll create teh drama. :D
Posted By: Steve (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 06:21 PM
orton will win.
dark horse edge.
longevity-shelton benjamin.
Posted By: jd (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 06:22 PM
We can safely say that Triple H will be part of the main event of Wrestlemania but I think he'll win the rumble. Making 5 people look like shit > royal rumble
Posted By: Guest#7748 (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 07:07 PM
I bet that Umaga or Kennedy return in the Rumble Match...
oh-yeah...Vladamir Kozlov will get the Diesel push or some shit that'll suck...
Posted By: Jake (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 08:51 PM
I love the Royal Rumble, but this is the problem with it: Ever since they added the stipulation that the winner goes to main event at Wrestlemania, it destroyed a huge chunk of the mystery that makes it exciting. Because as has been listed above, only so many guys can credibly be main eventing at Wrestlemania. Sure, it was exciting as a fan when Benoit won, but we all kinda had an inkling that he might win it that year. When Ric Flair won it and the world title, it was a different time, wherein we always expected Hogan to win, because he pretty much always won everything back then, so anyone winning, much less a heel winning, was a shocker.
So what they need to do now, is remove or change the stip. Maybe give them a Money in the Bank style title shot whenever they want to the winner, or give them a title shot in February, at least then, they aren't blowing the Main Event at WM and they can have a mid card guy shock everyone, like Kofi, Finlay, Morrison, etc.
Because if I have to watch Trips be yet another guy starting out at 1 that goes on to win, I will be highly disappointed.
Posted By: TrustMeTrustMe (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM
if you're going to shell out for royal rumble and wrestlemania, you should just get the road to wrestlemania package thing.
Posted By: Guest#6975 (Guest) on January 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I'd just like to chime in with my two cents and predictions.
I think JBL will lose his title match, enter HBK in the Rumble, then come out when Michaels is in the final 6 or 8 (or just after number 30) and demand to take his place. Hopefully, this leads to Michaels debating things while noticing the Undertaker against the ropes, and Superkicks him out. Then he Superkicks JBL setting up for JBL/HBK at No Way Out, and HBK/Taker for WM25 (I want that so bad because I'll be there).
I also think that with Christian's probable return, Jeff will lose the strap, HOWEVER, if he doesn't lose it, I actually want to see Hardy vs. HHH (where Jeff finally goes over Trips in a title match, which to date he's yet to do. It'd be a decent blow-off), or Hardy vs. Hardy vs. Edge vs. Christian (Have Matt Hardy win the Rumble, Edge thrown in because of Vicki, and Christian via being the one who attacked Jeff).
Oh, and if Taker wins, I will care. Three consecutive Wrestlemania title matches is a bit much for me.
Posted By: Empire Of Ownage (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 12:27 AM
cm punk! cm punk! cm punk!
Posted By: Guest#5598 (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 01:04 AM
WM25
Undertaker v HHH WWE Title
Cena v Jericho World Title
Hardys vs Edge and Christian TLC
MITB - Rey Mysterio, Benjamin, Kendrick, Miz, Morrison, Kennedy, MVP, Big Show
Tag Titles - Priceless v cryme time v manu/Snuka v colons
HBK v JBL (stipulation match)
IC - Punk v Regal
Some shitty Womens match
Posted By: Guest#3428 (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 01:28 AM
Diesel Push: Show: been booked like the monster he should be
Longest: Got to agree with Shelton, Morrison, or Punk... The E is high on all three and the longest is usually a good worker. I can see Ted just to try and get him over some or MVP.
Maven treatment: Surprise elimination going to Bourne... i know he is injured but he was suppose to be returning around this time and i can see him returning AT the rumble to eliminate someone big.
Surprise Entry: HBK would be so sweet. Or RVD for a one time deal :p
Posted By: Guest#4571 (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 01:55 AM
"This is one of the only two times a year I will willingly shell out money for ppv, along with Wrestlemania."
me too
Posted By: Mark (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 02:39 AM
as jeff's attacker might be christian, smackdown already has it's main title feud, so I guess someone from raw will win the rumble.
diesel push should go to big slow to rebuild him as a monster
Posted By: tmw (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 05:06 AM
Well one thing you can bet on is that RVD one shot it, then HHH will be sure to pedigree his ass in the center of the ring like he did a few years ago.
Another angle for HBK winnng could be JBL losing the title match JBL telling him he got Shawn a spot in the match, and if he wins then he will have to give JBL his spot. Not to far fetched of an idea.
And how about Taker/HBK at the end again since that shit was tight, and give HBK this time around.
Posted By: kinaj (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 06:52 AM
"Oh, and if Taker wins, I will care. Three consecutive Wrestlemania title matches is a bit much for me"
3 isn't too bad when it's an uber over face who can work a great match and make his opponent look great in defeat.
But Cena will (probably) have his 5th consecutive WM world title match this year.
And Triple H will have his 7th consecutive WM match over a world title, unless he decides to step aside and let someone else have as go. But he won't do that , because he is HUNTOR!
I truly think this Wrestlemania will suck gigantic donkey balls if the booking continues like this (HBK?JBL? QED!)
Posted By: Mr Quimby's Beard (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 07:43 AM
3 isn't too bad when it's an uber over face who can work a great match and make his opponent look great in defeat.
But Cena will (probably) have his 5th consecutive WM world title match this year.
And Triple H will have his 7th consecutive WM match over a world title, unless he decides to step aside and let someone else have as go. But he won't do that , because he is HUNTOR!
I truly think this Wrestlemania will suck gigantic donkey balls if the booking continues like this (HBK?JBL? QED!)
Posted By: Mr Quimby's Beard (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 07:43 AM
While I don't argue that Taker will most likely be involved in a good match-up at Wrestlemania, I'm still holding out for Taker/HBK with the HBK/JBL blow of at No Way Out (they really don't need more than 2 matches to the feud, and seeing as March is PPV-less, let the two main-event an episode of RAW in a street fight. Even call it a WALL STREET BRAWL or something like that. Lulz).
I also get the feeling that WWE WILL try something/someone new this year in the main event of Wrestlemania, and while I definitely see Cena walking into WM25 with the belt, I think that the main event should focus on the WWE title (unless we have Orton win the Rumble, in which case a 1-on-1 Orton/Cena match is FAR from the worst thing they could put on. Or Jericho, but with Jericho/Cena headlining the last two PPVs, I don't think I'd be as excited for it. Jericho on Smackdown would be good though. Or ECW. Can you imagine the ratings boost? I'd watch ECW more just to watch Jericho, although he wouldn't fit in because his new wardrobe (the suit) is more SUITable (hyuck hyuck) for the assumed "higher-paying" brand).
I also don't see the Legacy as a whole making it to the end. I think they'll all clear the ring at some point in the match (maybe have Rhodes and Dibiase enter the match at 1 and 4 or something, Orton comes in around 11, and by 16 it's just the three of them in the ring until someone like the Big Show, the Undertaker, or HHH comes out and endures the beat down, and eliminates Rhodes and Dibiase after another person comes. That way an Orton win still feels like a possibility as the match continues to progress).
Christian winning the match and going to RAW would be bad, in that I don't think they'd put him over Cena at Wrestlemania, but it could put Matt Hardy as Jeff's attacker, and making that a very personal feud that seems real this time, as opposed to their disheartening feud in 2001, now that they're both all around better performers.
Lastly, your HBK? JBL? QED? comment made me laugh. New 411 inside joke? Lol. Hopefully not. That shit needs to die...
Did RVD sign yet? Hyuck Hyuck. Fuckin' sheep.
Posted By: Empire Of Ownage (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Break Out Star: John Morrison / Shelton Benjamin
The Mark in me: MVP Win´s
The Smark in me: Mr. Kennedy Win´s
The Smart in me: HHH Win´s
The ¨This Would be awesome¨in me:
- HBK win´s the royal rumble (eliminating Orton & HHH) + Undertaker, defeats Jeff Hardy at NWO (by Matt Hardy interference)= Fuck Cena. I want the Undetaker. ¨HBK vs. UT at WM25 (The showstopper vs. the streak... (honestly HBK is the biggest threath to UT´s Streak in the entire WWE Roster)
Posted By: Fear_Inc. (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 03:24 PM
I like to think that Orton or Jericho will win solely because in the entire history of the rumble a heel has never won and I think it's long overdue. The other outcome I would love to see is a champion lose a title match at the rumble then enter the rumble and win to go on to Wrestlemania. Depending on how the E feels about Jeff, they could have him lose at the Rumble, enter the Rumble win then go on to Wrestlemania to have the big title win moment we all wanted but thats just me.
Posted By: Captain_Charisma (Registered) on January 15, 2009 at 03:57 PM
like to think that Orton or Jericho will win solely because in the entire history of the rumble a heel has never won and I think it's long overdue
Umm ever heard of steve austin?
Posted By: Guest#3130 (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 07:43 PM
like to think that Orton or Jericho will win solely because in the entire history of the rumble a heel has never won and I think it's long overdue
or ho wabout shawn michaels you are an idiot
Posted By: Guest#2468 (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 07:44 PM
like to think that Orton or Jericho will win solely because in the entire history of the rumble a heel has never won and I think it's long overdue
im pretty sure a guy named yokozuna won it once too. dude u are a complete moron who needs to get bich slapped
Posted By: Guest#4174 (Guest) on January 15, 2009 at 07:45 PM
like to think that Orton or Jericho will win solely because in the entire history of the rumble a heel has never won and I think it's long overdue.
As mentioned above Yoko in 93, HBK in 95, Austin in 97
Also Flair in 92 and Vince in 99.
And dude "we all" didn't want "the big title win moment" for Jeff Hardy
Posted By: Guest#7901 (Guest) on January 16, 2009 at 09:04 PM
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