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Brooklyn Brawlin' 02.04.09: No Way Out of Good Booking Ideas
Posted by Dan Torkel on 02.04.2009



Greetings to all for the first post Super Bowl Brawl session. It was a great game and again reminded me of Wrestlemania as we are now building to the Super Bowl of Pro Wrestling, the 25th edition of Wrestlemania in Houston Texas. Raw last night did a lot to clear up and lay out the No Way Out card. Randy Orton will face Shane McMahon in a No DQ match, and Shawn Michaels and JBL will, as expected blow off their feud. That sets up a fairly stacked card with the 2 Elimination Chambers, the return of Shane O-Mac, and JBL/HBK. But lets delve a bit deeper into these matches for a second.

World Title Elimination Chamber - (c) John Cena vs. Chris Jericho vs. Kane vs. Rey vs. Mike Knox vs. Kofi -

- This is already being discussed as the worst on paper Elimination Chamber match ever. There was one a few years ago at New Year's Revolution with Chris Masters and Carlito in it, but that led to Edge winning his first WWE Title. This one seems borderline inexcusable. First to qualify was Kofi Kingston. Now I understand he is a former IC and World Tag Champion, but then again at this point, who isn't? This guy is a total mid carder, and has been booked as such since losing the IC Title to SANTINO! His major victories have been fluke style wins, including his fluke win over Kane to get into the match.

- Speaking of Kane, this guy hasn't been a serious threat to a serious World Title in years (No, I don't count the ECW Title). He got in this match by virtue of getting Undertaker to fight Randy Orton. He lost his qualifier to a guy half his size and his major feud was against Rey Mysterio to whom Kane lost every big match.

- Speaking of Rey Mysterio, this actually can be fun. Being faces, he and Cena have never had a serious feud or big time matchup, and the Chamber setting can be interesting with Rey's springboard-y offense. But again, does anyone buy Rey winning the World Title a month before Wrestlemania. His one title reign in 2006 came due to his association with Eddie Guerrero and he is kept around and pushed because of his merchandise sales.

- Mike Knox? Really? I didn't know Gene Snitsky grew a beard. This guy was steroid positive, mocked openly by DX a few years ago, and then suddenly comes to Raw from ECW and is getting a title shot.

- And finally Chris Jericho. Memo to WWE Creative... If you want to build a serious threat to your Champion, DO NOT HAVE HIM TAP LIKE A BITCH ON FREE TV TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE PPV! Cena and Jericho had a great TV match totally ruined by another Jericho castration. First the Wrestler of 2008 jobs cleanly at Survivor Series to Cena who was out for months. Then in the rematch he taps like a bitch. Now you are building to the ppv and instead of showcasing Jericho's knowledge of Cena, or history with the Elimination Chamber, they have a free TV match where Cena wins squeaky clean via tap out.

This all said, I think the entire IWC and wrestling watching world would be in SHOCK if Cena loses here. Here's an idea. With Orton winning the Rumble, and claiming his shot at Wrestlemania, have The Legacy (Rhodes and Dibiase) claim the final 2 spots in the Chamber. Even if they lose, their job is to wear down the winner (Cena) for Orton at Wrestlemania.

WWE Title Elmination Chamber - (c) Edge vs. Triple H vs. Big Show vs. Undertaker vs. Kozlov vs. Jef Hardy -

Pardon the spoilers here, but according to the SD reports, these are the 6-men in the cell. This is how you book a match. In a match like the Elimination Chamber, the Champion should never be such an overwhelming favorite. Here, Edge looks FUCKED as Champion. Triple H, and Taker can in win here, plus Show and Kozlov are dominating forces. Jeff will likely lose again to set up his feud with Matt Hardy, but at least the former champ is getting a shot. I think Edge will likely retain, unless they want to go a different direction with the WWE Title match.

Shane McMahon vs. Randy Orton - No DQ -

- This will be fun, hopefully bloody, and violent and will no doubt end in Randy's total destruction of Shane. But again, with the way Orton's been pushed, does anyone buy Shane winning here. It will a total train wreck and Shane even admitted, he doesn't care about winning. Random Raw Thought - If Orton would've punted Stephanie, it would have been my all time favorite moment in Raw's history. I would love to see Randy destroy Shane here, and have Triple H win the SD Chamber match to become the WWE Champion. Orton could then face him at Wrestlemania and torture Stephanie more. In honesty, Orton has more of an issue with Triple H then Cena, being Triple H ended the Age of Orton and injured Randy Orton before going to SD.

JBL vs. HBK -

- We see the light at the end of the tunnel here. It is Taker vs. HBK in Houston Texas. First the ominous confrontation at the Rumble, now the end of the feud between JBL and HBK. I love JBL until he enters the ring and then he is awful and borderline unwatchable. HBK should get righteous revenge here, and then be challenged by Taker soon after. I can't wait for next Monday when they will be together backstage.

Other Random E Thoughts -

1) Christian - So is the WWE really that concerned with internet rumors? I guess so. If the story is true, then they went with Matt turning on Jeff to counter popular belief it was Christian returning. Where does that leave Christian though? Matt has not officially taken the blame for Jeff's "accidents" so maybe they just delayed the inevitable and gave Matt a fresh start as a heel for fun. I think Christian should go back to Raw actually, (I know everyone wants E&C vs. Hardys). He left the company after a feud with Cena, and can have great matches with Jericho, Rey, Punk, and HBK as well. SD is loaded now with talent, and Raw could use the boost while Batista is out.

2) McMahons - Are we in 1999 again? Between Vince's return and punting at the hands of Orton, Shane's returning and Stephanie on TV all the time, it feels a lot like late 1999 into 2000 again, only minus Stone Cold. Wait... isn't he getting inducting into the Hall of Fame? I would not be shocked if Orton ends up meeting the future inductee before Wrestlemania, being the last time they saw each other was Cyber Sunday when Austin hit him with a Stunner, and an RKO and punt on Austin would re-legitmize his Legend Killer moniker.

3) Punk - This is the time to turn Punk heel and push him to the moon as the cocky, straight edge prick he was in ROH. Post Wrestlemania, he can feud with Michaels, based on Michaels' checkered past compared to his straight edged lifestyle. Punk would be fantastic here, calling HBK a hypocrite and triggering a series of 4 star matches. Punk would also be a good challenger against Cena. Punk has kind of been in limbo as a face on Raw, winning the Tag Titles, jobbing the tag titles, feuding with Regal, etc. He has not had a good feud ever. Even as Champion, he had a shorty feud with JBL, a one and done with Jericho, and he never even got good revenge on Randy Orton for taking him out as Champion. Punk as a heel would be perfect and him taking out Jeff would have been an awesome angle. Jeff's lifestyle is everything that Punk goes against.

Well I am done for now. A quick word on the fantasy booking stuff. I love it, and I enjoy doing it. Last week it was about 50/50 with commentors either loving or hating my ideas. If you think you have the goods, in terms of fantasy booking, email me and I will post the best suggestions next week. Till then, be good and have fun storming the castle.


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I forsee a possible swerve where Mattt AHrdy takes out jeff just before the EC match and they could thorw Christian in as a surprise entrant. If they do, they have to go back to the music they used when he first turned on Edge (the operatic/Queen entrance. "CHRISTIAN! CHRISTIAN!" I cna hear the pops now for it.

Posted By: nunz (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 
 
I know the IWC bitches about everything, but RAWs EC won't be the worst EVER. That honour goes to the "Extreme" EC from "December to Dismember: Test, Holly, Lashley, Show and 2 others I can't even remember.

If Knox was replaced with Dibiase or Rhodes RAWs EC would be OK.


Posted By: BBM (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 03:58 PM

 
 
BBM- I believe Punk & RVD were the other two in D2D

Posted By: M:-X (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 04:13 PM

 
 
BBM, the other two were RVD and CM Punk.

Posted By: Beki (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 04:32 PM

 
 
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've been making the same comments about Punk for months now. A fued with Hardy or Michaels would be top notch. I would prefer Michaels, because he can be even better than Raven on the mic. HBK-Punk, in my opinion, could be better than HBK-Y2J, because it could be even more personal and hate filled. If you haven't seen the Punk-Raven fued, I suggest you check it out. The "This is StraightEdge promo" gave me goosebumps. By the way, an Edge-Punk alliance would be the shit--StraightEdge!!!!

Posted By: your REAL daddy (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 04:44 PM

 
 
I love the idea of punk taking out hardy. Maybe Matt recruiting him to show Jeff how he should have lived to avoid the punishment they are currently dishing out. On the other hand, raw can't really afford to lose anymore wrestlers right now.

Posted By: Adam! (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 04:54 PM

 
 
I liked Punk's feud with Morrison, but it did get a bit overplayed.

Posted By: mrfish (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 05:13 PM

 
 
Later this year, I hope to see Jeff Hardy return to Raw via the draft, team with Punk for a while, and have Punk lose his patience with Jeff over time, leading to a Punk heel turn and a major IC Title feud -- yes, a FEUD over the Intercontinental Title; they used to have those, remember? Then Punk could retain the belt, and Jeff could still go on to later challenge for the World Title if they so choose, since I'm guessing his popularity won't soon wane.

Also, the Smackdown chamber match looks amazing (despite HHH being in his ninety-third elimination chamber match), but am I the only one calling bullshit on Vickie Guerrero booking such a lose-win-lose-lose-lose-lose scenario for her HUSBAND, the WWE Champ?


Posted By: KanyonKreist (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 05:16 PM

 
 
I love the idea of punk taking out hardy. Maybe Matt recruiting him to show Jeff how he should have lived to avoid the punishment they are currently dishing out. On the other hand, raw can't really afford to lose anymore wrestlers right now.

Posted By: Adam! (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 05:20 PM

 
 
I think the RAW Chamber will be pretty good. The only guys in the match that I don't buy as a chamion would be Kofi and Knox. They haven't been around long enough or booked strong enough yet. That doesn't mean that they don't have something to add to the match. Knox is another powerful guy who can make some carnage and that is always good for the Chamber. Concerning Kofi, I just can't wait to see the crazy shit that he could do in a match like the this. While they are not ready for the main event scene now and may never be, everybody has to get that first shot somewhere, so why not have it be a match that can play to their strengths?

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 05:36 PM

 
 
I know the IWC bitches about everything, but RAWs EC won't be the worst EVER. That honour goes to the "Extreme" EC from "December to Dismember: Test, Holly, Lashley, Show and 2 others I can't even remember.

If Knox was replaced with Dibiase or Rhodes RAWs EC would be OK.

Posted By: BBM (Guest) on February 04, 2009 at 03:58 PM

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The 2 others in that EC were CM Punk and RVD. That Elimination Chamber sucked serious balls. RVD and Punk (the only 2 guys the audience cared about) got eliminated pretty much straight away, the booking was horrendous for that piece of shit PPV.


Posted By: Guest#8480 (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 05:45 PM

 
 
why isn't MVP in a chamber match????

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 07:02 PM

 
 
So they did add Kane to the Chamber?

Then what the fuck was the point of letting that smiling moron Kofi go over him besides making some 12 year old happy.

Why anybody pay money to watch this shit is beyond me. The E hasn't put on an entertaining PPV since they were the Federation in 2001.


Posted By: MBD (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 07:22 PM

 
 
The guy who posted about the ECW Elimination chamber was right. Someone wrote that Dibiase and Rhodes should be in the chamber but what have they done? They are mid-carders right now and for the foreseeable future. They have never carried a good match on Raw or on a pay-per view. Dibiase has some talent on the mic but Rhodes is uttterly bland. Even worse, they're being booked as Shane's bitches and Orton's lackeys. Also, I find it sad that we live in a world where Mike Knox can get in the Chamber just by standing on the entrance ramp but Shelton, MVP, Punk, Regal, Morrsion, and Umaga are mid-carders

Posted By: Edwin (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 08:17 PM

 
 
you're right...

diggins > mike knox


Posted By: db (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 08:19 PM

 
 
"Why anybody pay money to watch this shit is beyond me. The E hasn't put on an entertaining PPV since they were the Federation in 2001."

Hahahaha.

See: Summer Slam 2002
The Card with typical ratings.
-Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock (****)
-Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels (****+)
-Edge vs. Eddie Guerrero (****)
-Rey Mysterio vs. Angle (almost ****)
-Booker T & Goldust vs. Christian & Lance Storm (very very solid)
-Undertaker vs. Test (Surprisingly Good)
-Ric Flair vs. Chris Jericho (OK, not quite so good.)
-Rob Van Dam vs. Someother Canadian Chris (around ****)

YOU FAIL.


Posted By: Aaron Hubbard (Registered)  on February 04, 2009 at 08:51 PM

 
 
Easy Booking 101.
Have matt hardy assult someone(his brother jeff makes sense) in the SD elimination chamber, therby taking his place. Matt wins the title and blood fued booking 101 kicks in when jeff seeks revenge and wins title at WM 25 while getting his sweet revenge. i'd pay for that.


Posted By: dave k (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 09:19 PM

 
 
"Why anybody pay money to watch this shit is beyond me. The E hasn't put on an entertaining PPV since they were the Federation in 2001."

Hahahaha.

See: Summer Slam 2002
The Card with typical ratings.
-Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock (****)
-Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels (****+)
-Edge vs. Eddie Guerrero (****)
-Rey Mysterio vs. Angle (almost ****)
-Booker T & Goldust vs. Christian & Lance Storm (very very solid)
-Undertaker vs. Test (Surprisingly Good)
-Ric Flair vs. Chris Jericho (OK, not quite so good.)
-Rob Van Dam vs. Someother Canadian Chris (around ****)

YOU FAIL.

Posted By: Aaron Hubbard (Registered) on February 04, 2009 at 08:51 PM

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Hey Aaron, how about, just for once, you shut the fuck up. The readers of this site are sick of your smarmy arrogance, your holier-than-thou bullshit and the general self-righteous faggotry you constantly exude. Have you ever been intimate with a female Aaron? Or are you such a lowly priest-blower that you're saving yourself for marriage? Your virginity would go a long way to explaining why you are such a pathetic, meaningless little nerd crybaby. Oh, and by the way, that "Imperial Rumble" thing you devised was the gayest thing I've ever seen posted on this website. Seriously, do us all a favour and kill yourself, bitch.


Posted By: Guest#5122 (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 10:09 PM

 
 
Easy Booking 101.
Have matt hardy assult someone(his brother jeff makes sense) in the SD elimination chamber, therby taking his place. Matt wins the title and blood fued booking 101 kicks in when jeff seeks revenge and wins title at WM 25 while getting his sweet revenge. i'd pay for that.

Posted By: dave k (Guest) on February 04, 2009 at 09:19 PM

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Err, no dipshit. Do you morons think before you post this bullshit? Or do you just hammer your heads onto the keyboard and post whatever random crap you come up with it?

Its like that loser from a few weeks ago, on one of the smackdown reports who was trying to call me out for predicting Orton/Cena and Edge/HHH at WM (he actually believed Shelton Benjamin had a chance at winning the rumble... and was going to end Taker's streak at WM... look it up, its the 01.02.09 Smackdown report, its hilarious, he actually said this - "LMAO, you bitching about what i said with a shelton benjamin push by the undertaker and you come up with this rediculous story of your own of how edge is going to take the title at RR and a matt hardy heel turn or a unsigned christian is going to return and lead to a fued at WM, thats beyond retarded; more crazy then shelton benjamin getting a push.")

But I digress, to get back to the point, Dave K, Are you even watching the same product as the rest of us? The above scenario might sound reasonable in your single-digit IQ-gifted brain, but to the rest of us its the stupidest thing ever with approximately ZERO chance of ever happening. Fucking mark.


Posted By: Dappa Don (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 10:18 PM

 
 
No Way Out:

Cena Vs Rey Vs Kane Vs Kofi Vs Jericho Vs Knox

December To Dismember:

Show Vs RVD Vs Punk Vs Lashley Vs Test Vs Holly

I'll call it a wash, at least No Way Out as a good undercard and a great main event.


Posted By: Guest#5485 (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 10:36 PM

 
 
WHERE'S KENNEDY & MVP???
If JBL loses he gives Shawn $1,000,000. If Shawn loses he sits out WM25. Now THAT'S believable.
Please turn Cena heel & Randy face.
Snitsky>Kane>Knox>Kozlov. Know this.
Steph took a badass hit on that door. She's getting better.


Posted By: fishstix68 (Guest)  on February 04, 2009 at 10:58 PM

 
 
The EC match at D2D was really good in my opinion.

Posted By: Guest#6460 (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 12:27 AM

 
 
making a logical point while laying to waste some moron's unproven perception of PPV matches is smarky arrogance?

I know that some of these writers can be condescending and sorta silly, but this criticism of yours just shows what an petty, petty man you are, Guest 5122.


Posted By: christy (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 12:34 AM

 
 
The problem with putting CAWdy & Ted Jr. in the Chamber to "soften up" Cena is that, not even getting into the fact that they've done almost nothing in their young careers, there is enough time between No Way Out and Wrestlemania for Cena to legitimately break a bone or sprain something pretty severely in the Chamber and still be 100% in time for Mania. And besides, Kofi and Knox are both way more interesting as characters and entertaining as wrestlers than Simply & Priceless. Yes, Knox is more entertaining in the ring than Rhodes and Dibiase Jr., deal with it.

Posted By: Galaxy Express (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 02:41 AM

 
 
Punk had great fueds with Morrison and Elijah burke.

Posted By: Guest#8926 (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 04:30 AM

 
 
I love how the IWC bitches when they go with the same people over and over again, but then also complains when they put new people. Who cares if Cena is the favorite? They are putting him in an interesting match with people who HAVE been pushed, people who ARE over and people who he has not fought before. People love Cena (sorry to burst your bubble) and will surely pay to see him in this match. Plus, with Orton versus Shane, the HBK-JBL storyline closing and the stacked Smackdown main event you have a strong card overall, so what is the harm in putting some new people in the main event. Cena, Rey and Kofi are very over (especially in the new demographic that WWE is looking for). I'm not sure what anyone's problem with Knox is...he is a big, huge monster and there is always a place for them. Jericho is a hot heel and who cares if he lost to Cena? It was a good match. Kane is always a legitmate challenger. If Cena wins they are building him super strong for his match at Wrestlemania (he needs that after the past few months) and if he would lose (as unlikely as it is) it would an unpredictable and interesting development. Also, I love how you cast Rey as some shmuck who is only kept around for selling merchandise. Isn't that the point? Get over enough so that you are popular and people are willing to pay to see you and/or buy your stuff?
Stop your bitching and become a fan again.


Posted By: cpbasil (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 08:32 AM

 
 
Okay, I have to put the kabosh on the whole turn Punk heel thing...

IT. IS. NOT. GOOD. BUSINESS. TO. BOO. A. WRESTLER. THAT. PROMOTES. A. DRUG. FREE. LIFESTYLE. PERIOD. END OF SENTENCE.

Yes, I have seen Punk’s heel persona, and it is glorious, but that is based off a regional, older-demographic based company, which the WWE is not. ROH does not cater to kids. WWE does, and as a global, public company with investors, it might not be a wise decision to book their fallback superstar if anything goes down in regards to future drug/alcohol related incidents as a bad guy. ESPECIALLY if it leads to cheering for a guy who has been proven to have a past with drugs (ie Jeff Hardy).

That isn’t the message it needs to be sending RIGHT NOW. A year ago, sure. Maybe a few years down the road when they get off the PG kick, yes, but right now? The thing about fantasy booking is to book what is creatively better based on the CURRENT circumstances. That includes what is going on culturally within the confines of society. Punk as a heel based off his straight-edge persona = No Buys. Especially to kids. They should NOT be booing that.


Posted By: Anarchist (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 12:05 PM

 
 
Cena vs Kofi vs Knox vs Jericho vs Kane vs Rey
This is more of an "impress me" showcase than an actual match, just to see how some of the midcarders will do on the big stage.

This is like if Smackdown made their Elimination Chamber:
Edge vs Jimmy Wang Yang vs Festus vs Jeff Hardy vs Khali vs THE Brian Kendrick

I think this shows that Raw needs a couple more "established" midcard guys. I bet Raw wishes they had Umaga, Shelton, MVP, Morrison or Mr. Kennedy now.


Posted By: Raz12 (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 12:36 PM

 
 
"And finally Chris Jericho. Memo to WWE Creative... If you want to build a serious threat to your Champion, DO NOT HAVE HIM TAP LIKE A BITCH ON FREE TV TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE PPV!"

Amen


Posted By: Guest#3438 (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 12:50 PM

 
 
Between now and NWO, Kofi will catch a beatdown from Legacy and one of the Priceless members will get the spot.

Posted By: jojo (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 03:12 PM

 
 
Cpbasil, thank you!

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on February 05, 2009 at 04:25 PM

 


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