WWE News: Disappointment With Raw Rating, Jericho Promises To Return To Raw, More
Posted by Larry Csonka on 01.06.2010
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- WWE management is not happy with the WWE Raw rating, as they thought the return of Bret Hart would get them a 4.0 in the ratings. They felt this was possible, even with TNA providing competition. [Credit: Pwinsider.com]
- Continental Airlines in flight magazine has an article up on three of the important women running WWE; Donna Goldsmith (chief operating officer), Michelle Wilson (executive vice president of marketing) and Stephanie McMahon-Levesque. You can read that article by going here.
- WWE.com has posted a video of Chris Jericho, saying that he will come to Raw to bully the guest host and get what he wants. Jericho did not look pleased when Kelly Kelly told him that Iron Mike Tyson would be the host. You can watch that video here.
- On February 28th, the ECW and Smackdown house show has been moved to the coliseum at the Taylor County Expo Center in Abilene, Texas. The show was originally going to take place at the Civic Center in West Plains, Missouri. [Credit: Pwinsider.com]
The ratings won't go up with the same recycled Hornswoggle/DX/lame Diva match/horrid announcers/lack of good matches, formula the WWE has going on. To quote the late great Owen Hart, "enough is enough, and its time for a change!!!"
Posted By: The Truth (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 01:55 PM
They might have wanted to try and make the rest of the show as good as Bret Hart showing up if they're disappointed with that rating. Learn from this.
And Christ, I love Chris Jericho, but can we be done with this angle already? By stipulation he lost and is bared from RAW. End of story.
Posted By: lilwayne1 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:02 PM
Jericho needs to do something else besides complain to the guest gm ever week about not being on raw...
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Just watch your ear, Jericho
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:08 PM
It still beat Impact with its regular rating.
Posted By: Guest#9555 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Steph looks HOT in that picture provided in the link. She is the most fitting example of 'smart, sexy and powerful' and she's not even a Diva.
Posted By: Guest#5043 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:10 PM
Considering that Jericho is being advertised for the Columbus Raw on I believe 1-25-10, I'd say its a good bet.
Posted By: heyhey (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:12 PM
if they want the ratings to go up, then someone tell them to improve their product......and no I'm not a TNA fan, just a wrestling fan in general.
Posted By: chris (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:12 PM
hey why all the excitement wwe didn't even get a 4.0
Posted By: Guest#0214 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:12 PM
Now maybe, hopefully, FINALLY the WWE will realize they need to focus on WRESTLING instead wasting time on Hornswoggle and jobbing Jericho. When (if) they EVER give the fans what they want then perhaps they will get higher ratings. What a concept, huh?
Posted By: Chico (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:16 PM
i think they would easily surpass 4.0 with the rock hosting. you want ratings bring in the fucking rock. that's what everyone wants. you give people what they want and they will be tuning in week after week.
Posted By: Guest#2350 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:22 PM
3.5 was probably the size of the "WWE Universe" in the States right now. Anything higher needs to be from mainstream, and flipping through Google news, it looks like Bret got zero mainstream attention. Both Bret and Jeff also scored only a 2 on Digg. Hogan also didn't get too much mainstream press, but he did score a 102 on Digg, so I bet most WWE fans knew he was there at least, and that's where the 1.5 came from.
So both WWE and TNA need to work harder to get into mainstream news and change mainstream perception if they want to bump their rating higher. It's more than just billboards and interviews with Bubba. They need to get positive word of mouth going. They should consult with whoever was responsible for the marketing of Glee and Paranormal Activity, they both did a great job of getting people talking and being interested about something small.
Posted By: y2kev (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:23 PM
I have an idea that might help Raw's ratings. Why don't they improve it's content instead of relying on guest hosts to draw in a larger audience. Like how about more wrestling on a wrestling show! WOW! What a concept!
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:23 PM
Oh, and I'm positive Mike Tyson will get a far higher rating than Bret Hart because he is one of those mainstream kind of guys.
Posted By: y2kev (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:29 PM
See Dixie, unlike you, the WWE always aims for the top. Only losers can be happy with a 1.5.
Posted By: Guest#4224 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:30 PM
HAHAHA @WWE. Looks good on them
Posted By: Paul Westbrook (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:30 PM
As TNA were happy with their ratings on Monday night, WWE on the hand wasn't despite winning the Monday Night war against TNA.
Posted By: vantheman77 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:34 PM
- WWE management is not happy with the WWE Raw rating, as they thought the return of Bret Hart would get them a 4.0 in the ratings. They felt this was possible, even with TNA providing competition.
HA! In 6 months, they'll be lucky to get 3.0's in the ratings!
TNA is the future and the sooner you 'Etards see that, the better off Wrestling will be in General!
Posted By: Guest#5078 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:35 PM
Given the fact that WWE didn't get ANY bump from putting Bret Hart on? No wonder they're dissapointed.
It's like Jim Cornette said, "1997 called and wants their wrestling back!".
Compare that to the half&half shit that TNA put on Monday night....and they posted a half-point increase? Still a win for TNA tho I hope that Dixie realizes the crap that she just got herself into. If Hogan talked her into thinking that bringing ALL his buddies in is going to improve the product, she's high and the steriod use has gone to Hogan's brain.
I'll give it a couple of weeks to see if things smooth themselves out, but the bullshit chants and Hogan getting booed while giving the talk to Jarrett, was pretty eye-opening in itself.
We'll see.
Posted By: CokeZero (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:38 PM
What do you expect? You shit out the same RAW as you have been for well over a year now, only with Bret Hart inserted into the host segments, on a night when another company is going all out to win over viewers.
Regardless of what obese smarks may think of the way TNA approached 'selling' their product to a new potential market of viewers, it was always going to be the case they were going to throw everything at the anticipating audience within that first important hour. And what do the failed sitcom writers on RAW do?
The same old shit.
Yeah, the HBK-Hart confrontation was goosebump-inducing, but it was like the Hollywood monkeys on their typewriters through the back just decided 'okay, so after we end the 15 years of animosity with a handshake and some emotional - whatever that is - words, go to break, and then... if... we just... copy and paste... the rest from last week... there you go! Voila! There's your RAW! Where's my cocaine bitch?'
- Crappy women's match exhibiting magnificently how much contempt we have for the division? Check.
- Hornswoggle crotch-chopping? Check.
- The perpetual momentumless midcard farting out the latest last-minute mini-push to a wrestler we've done nothing with the past few weeks but require for an upcoming PPV? Check.
- Hornswoggle crotch-chopping? Check.
- DX shilling? Check.
- Highlighting how creative have the comparative collective IQ of Terri Schiavo's decomposed corpse by displaying so clearly how little they're even attempting to build Kofi Kingston? Check.
- Same as above but for the World Champ? Check.
- Jericho doing his thing with [insert host]? Check.
- Santino doing his thing with [insert host]? Check.
- Hornswoggle crotch-chopping? Check.
I suppose we could throw in a match that lasts longer than 5 minutes. And perhaps a lacklustre main-event confrontation... And scene! 4.0 baby!!!
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:38 PM
I honestly thought it'd be higher for both shows (2.0 for TNA, 4.0 for WWE), but wrestling just isn't the "in" thing anymore.
Both still managed a .5 jump, though and should be happy. If they could have kept the quality consistent regarding TNA's main event and RAW's opening, I'd be more inclined to stay tuned.
Posted By: ThatNickGuy78 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:40 PM
Maybe the rest of the show should have been better......
Posted By: T-Mac (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:44 PM
Yeah, well here's a lesson for WWE staff... if you want ratings, you can't just give the people what they want SOMETIMES... you can't just put on a good show when you're under pressure. You have to do it EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, or people are going to turn away.
Posted By: A-Ron (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:45 PM
Jericho is so played out. He's a fucking jobber now, and his "I'm smarter than you" character stopped being entertaining around Wrestlemania last year when he started beating up the grumpy old men. He can go back into semi-retirement and record some more shitty CD's for all I care.
Posted By: Guest#7087 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:49 PM
Maybe The Rock could get them over 4.0, that's about the only returning star that could at this point. Sorry, Bret was off TV for too long, and all the fans that remember him stopped watching years ago. He was never a huge draw to begin with. I have no idea why WWE is surprised over this.
Posted By: Guest#3349 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:51 PM
Women running wrestling is the main problem with it.
Posted By: Bemini (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:54 PM
Hmm surprising. I thought the rating was fine. TNA didn't pull an amazing rating. they went up a little but it'll probably slither back down in a few weeks.
Posted By: Guest#5100 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:58 PM
I thought they would get 4.0 aswell, wasnt a bad night night for TNA really.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 02:58 PM
With all due respect, you can't provide stuff like little people's court, and still expect pull a 4.0 return of Bret Hart or not.
Posted By: JT (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:01 PM
Ruh ROH... looks like WWE was competing after all... Not ....Good...
Perhaps Vince thought this was the knockout blow....
If an opportunity presents itself again, the Wrestling Universe (not just the WWE Universe) will speak again...
.4 off the expected Mark? Things that make you go hmmmm...
Posted By: tstrike (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:03 PM
...WWE shouldn't be surprised. Outside of real, hardcore fans, people couldn't give a shit less about Bret Hart. He was never a mainstream draw.
He also, presently, looks like hell. Nice hair.
Posted By: Sorry, but... (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:06 PM
One more thing... I am waiting for Csonka's "In My Opinion" Give the guy his due, he is probably analyzing every part of this thing... He is pretty good..
Csonka? Ok cmon with it man, we are waiting!!
Posted By: tstrike (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:09 PM
Wait. WWE really thought that? Not even believing TNA's ratings would be as good as they ended up being, I knew WWE wouldn't be able to use Bret to get that against Hogan's return. The only chance they has at that was with The Rock.
Posted By: Guy Incognito (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:18 PM
It's unfair to expect Bret Hart to offset Hulk Hogan by himself, let alone Jeff Hardy and Ric Flair as well. I think WWE should shut up and be happy with this rating. And if they can't do, then maybe they should look in the mirror realize they've been asleep at the wheel the past 3-4 years
Posted By: chumpstain (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:24 PM
I respect the fact that the WWE hold high standards for themselves, even if their direction frustrates fans at times.
The bottom line is, the rating was still solid and hopefully we'll get more RAW's that feature less camp and focus more on wrestling or angle development.
Posted By: cbear34 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:28 PM
They needed a live sex celebration.
Posted By: Edge (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:39 PM
Great news, Vince, do something about it! Something bigger than Bret! That's what we've been asking for the last few years.
Posted By: Walleris (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:40 PM
What could they do to improve the product that we wouldn't bitch about? I mean push new stars see shemaus and drew we bitched. Push cena and hbk and Rey and we bitch so what do they do?
Posted By: Green1 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:56 PM
This comes from a wrestling fan when I say that people don't like wrestling anymore, and reusing the same tired shit over and over again isn't going to make people like it anytime soon. I watched on Monday for Bret Hart, but I could care less about a very very old DX fighting *insert heel team here* for the billionth time.
Posted By: Will (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:07 PM
Jericho, mouthing off to a boxer and getting knocked the fuck out with a pulled punch that looks horrible? GET RIGHT OUT OF TOWN!
Posted By: Rein Engel (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:09 PM
Stop bashing DX, they get the loudest pops and move the most merchandise. As for Hornswaggle, listen to the pops he gets, even if its all 10 year olds. Compare Horny's pop with Evan Bourne's and there you go.
Posted By: dogpound7382 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:09 PM
Guest 9555, while that may be true, TNA did substantially larger numbers than normal, against what should have been the blockbster Bret Hart. It should be no surprise WWE out rated TNA...the've been around WAY longer, have more fame, and CASH backing the ship...for TNA to have done more than solid numbers against WWE on a Monday is saying ALOT. WWE's product is stale...and while most casual fans still "know" Raw better, TNA's numbers show that fans may be ready for change and competition...
Posted By: Guest#6717 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:13 PM
maybe because they're storyboard/writers suck! who the fuck really wants to see DX and hornfaggot vs Jerishow? actually i could watch it but the RETARDED hornswaggle interference really just pissed me off and reminded me how much of a PG rated show this crap is.. they have to go back and take wrestling seriously and not a comedy show
Posted By: wylun (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:17 PM
I watched the opening segment with Bret Hart...and I watched the closing segment with Bret Hart. I kept turning off the 90 minutes of CRAP in between.
How many midcarder 4-ways for the US title or #1 contendership is legally allowed by law? I feel like WWE is way over the limit.
Posted By: ODog (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:26 PM
I like how they're all wearing heels. They might be powerful, but even they know they dont belong in a man's world!
Posted By: Guest#1 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:35 PM
They needed a live sex celebration.
Posted By: Edge (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 03:39 PM
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Or, conversely, a Katie Vick segment.
Posted By: Chungles (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 04:37 PM
The problem I have with Raw is that it just isn't clicking with me Monday. I felt it was a repeat w/different host. I mean come on not again:
1) Jericho was doing the same crap (fighting with the host)
2) DX doing the same crap with Hornswaggle (pushing Mattel Toys over new superstars, please)
3) Orton deflating a strong push (remember MVP and Henry each winning over Orton last year??)
4) The Miz sounding like a turd on the mic (when is someone calling him a MTV reject???)
5) Ladies Title still a joke
6) Heavyweight champ still taking out the low card guys, and not getting over as a major player (this is what happens when you don't build a character for the fans).
If Vince wanted the 4, he should have:
1) Not booked Cena for the Fiesta Bowl 2) Kofi should have won over Orton, putting Legacy to wonder if their leader is the real deal
3) Split the tag titles so we as wrestling fans can.....watch wrestling
4) Unify the Women's Title--Too many plastic Barbies, and not enough wrestlers
5) Bring back the "Me..Want..Title..Match" Jericho. He can still be a heel and do the bits.
6) Have wrestlers be the guest host of Raw and have them interact with the wrestlers. We got what---Jericho, HBK, and Vince all interacting with Bret, but what about Orton---Ohh, Legend Killer meets Excellence of Execution = Money
Posted By: Mr. KT (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 05:16 PM
Funny shit.
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 05:29 PM
The ratings won't go up with the same recycled Hornswoggle/DX/lame Diva match/horrid announcers/lack of good matches, formula the WWE has going on. To quote the late great Owen Hart, "enough is enough, and its time for a change!!!"
Posted By: The Truth (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 01:55 PM
I agree 100%.
Posted By: Yup. (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 05:33 PM
The title should be 'WWE Disappointed That They Have To Put Thought Into Their Product To Earn Ratings'.
Hornswoggle probably lost WWE about 2 million viewers.
Posted By: Brent Dazzley (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 05:41 PM
Will the fans were literally leaving the building while Bret was talking to Vince. I guess newer fans don't care.
Posted By: YourGuestHost (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 05:48 PM
WWE crushed TNA and WWE still isn't satified with their 3.8 rating.
TNA is estatic with a 1.5
Posted By: baker (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:14 PM
Most people bitch about Hornswoggle but he has one of the loudest pop's of anyone that is why he is still out there.
Posted By: Guest#1657 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:30 PM
hahaha
Bob Barker >>>>>>>>> Bret Hart
Posted By: sheepbait (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:35 PM
Will the fans were literally leaving the building while Bret was talking to Vince. I guess newer fans don't care.
Posted By: YourGuestHost (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 05:48 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too. Such a huge angle my ass. Poor Bret got owned on Monday. Shawn tells him "I'm not sorry, and you deserved what you got", and then Bret offers his hand? Then Vince butters him up, which the Bret Hart character should have seen through more than anybody, and kicks him in the balls as way of saying "fuck you, I don't regret anything, and your demise made me a billionare."
I don't mean for this to sound like your typical IWC rant, but how can any Hitman fan be happy with the way WWE made him look. I hope he's getting very well paid for this, because he pretty much killed off whatever aura he had left as far as I'm concerned. Normally I would say "who cares about your legacy in a fake sport", but since Bret has harped on that so much over the years, it's very ironic that he would throw all of that under the bus for a quick payday. He must be in Flair-like financial trouble to do this now. Or, he's full of shit.
Posted By: Guest#1816 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:42 PM
Most people bitch about Hornswoggle but he has one of the loudest pop's of anyone that is why he is still out there.
Posted By: Guest#1657 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:30 PM
Yeah, but that's because the audience is filled with dumb kids that think John Cena and DX 2.0 are cool. Anybody flipping on WWE for the first time in a long time would take one look at the midget and remember why they stopped watching wrestling in the first place.
Posted By: Guest#3217 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:45 PM
"See Dixie, unlike you, the WWE always aims for the top. Only losers can be happy with a 1.5."
No, only losers can be unhappy with a 3.6
Posted By: Guest#3933 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:45 PM
Sorry Bret, the only former Canadian wrestler I still mark for is Trish Stratus. She's more famous than you, has way more charisma than you, has more money than you, and is sure as hell alot more pleasing on the eyes.
But Trish, much like The Rock, is somebody I would much rather see in a non-wrestling capacity nowadays. Those are two of the few that appeal to non-wrestling fans, which is why they have made it on their own. They simply don't need WWE anymore. You got to love them for that.
Look at all these has beens that couldn't make it outside of the freak show stick around. "Preserving your legacy" and "bringing closure" in pro wrasslin has to be the biggest fucking joke I've ever heard of. Being a "respected legend" in this line of work won't even buy you a cup of coffee. Hope you enjoy your segments with the midget, Shitman.
Posted By: Guest#7607 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:02 PM
Poor Bret Hart. He's gone from being wrestling's Christ like figure to just another old timer brought in to make money off of Vince's ego.
Posted By: Guest#0389 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:06 PM
If WWE freshened things up and pushed Kelly Kelly to the top of the women's division things may change for the whole show. The fans love her. She is the closest thing to another Trish, even though I find Kelly very bland in comparison.
Posted By: Guest#0044 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:12 PM
Most people bitch about Hornswoggle but he has one of the loudest pop's of anyone that is why he is still out there.
Posted By: Guest#1657 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:30 PM
He's not even a fucking wrestler. And why is he so entertaining? Because he's an adult but the size of a cabbage patch kid? Fuck Hornswoggle and WWE for thinking all of the audience is a moron like you.
Posted By: Guest#9767 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:24 PM
I have no problem with the Hornswoggle promoting the new action figures, they had been using JAKKS since 1996 when I was a freshman in high school and the first line was Razor Diesel Bret Goldust....but I do think he is bringing DX down I for one enjoy DX but dont like how Michaels is a mix of serious and goofy. Face it Heel 97 Michaels is dead he isnt coming back he would have Monday night if that was the case. I would rather they stay together than go against each other again.
Posted By: Radtke (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:32 PM
they're surprised no 4.0?!? Christ, half the audience (and quite honestly the audience they're booking for) weren't even BORN last time Bret was on Raw...if they wanted a 4.0 they'd book a jonas brother as a guest host...
Posted By: the dude (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:46 PM
When will WWE realize that guest hosts is not what draws the ratings. Its all about great wrestling matches! and as of lately they are getting worse instead of better. The DX/Horhswaggle is garbage & Chris Jericho needs to go on to Smackdown. Im a wrestling fan not entertainment fan. Yes i was glad to see Brett Hart back but him without great matches = bad ratings
Posted By: Da Truth (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Someone might have already said this but the reason TNA is happy and WWE is not is because the WWE did not really crush TNA. They won, but if TNA had been crushed, they would have gotten a lower rating than Thursday since they're going head to head with the same crowd. It was a success for TNA.
Posted By: Memin (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 08:54 PM
The problem with the E is that they went to PG rating. They need to go back to the attitude era to get the ratings again and stop trying to be so kid friendly.
Posted By: Guest#6292 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 09:29 PM
what about the football game?
Posted By: m (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 09:34 PM
What's WWE got to be upset about? Ratings wise, they still kicked TNA's ass royally.
Posted By: Kristian (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 09:34 PM
It's funny how people bash DX yet they're a MAJOR part of why people still watch. Especially HBK. Regardless he HBK is one of the few on the rosters that makes a match exciting and out wrestles more than half the roster Even HHH deserves more credit then he gets from morons tht pitch tents in their pants over RVD.
Again if you find RAW so repulsive...stop fucking watching already.
Posted By: Guest#7174 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 09:56 PM
The problem with the E is that they went to PG rating. They need to go back to the attitude era to get the ratings again and stop trying to be so kid friendly.
Posted By: Guest#6292 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 09:29 PM
Absolutely correct,this kid friendly shit is getting old,bring back the attitude and get back to wrestling and end this sitcom era.
Posted By: Melissa (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 10:02 PM
If WWE freshened things up and pushed Kelly Kelly to the top of the women's division things may change for the whole show. The fans love her. She is the closest thing to another Trish, even though I find Kelly very bland in comparison.
Posted By: Guest#0044 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 07:12 PM
You pretty much just explained why it doesn't really matter if they push Kelly or not. Don't get me wrong, she will be Diva champion sooner or later. It's pretty obvious the future of the Raw diva division is Kelly and Maryse, as pathetic as that may sound.
But the fans like her because she is pretty. Nothing more, nothing less. It's the same reason they like Maria. But liking a pretty girl doesn't mean you actually want to see her do anything.
Your seriously underestimating Trish's ability if you think Kelly is anything like her. Forget the fact that Trish was a million times more entertaining in the ring. She also brought tons of charisma to the table, while Kelly has none. Trish is also very smart, wheras Kelly seems like one of the dumber divas the WWE has ever had.
Trish is a real star. Her post-WWE success has proven that. Kelly is nothing more than a Barbie doll. And just like any doll, people get sick of them after a little while, and want a new one. WWE will hire some more models, one of them will be prettier than Kelly, and they will have no more use for her. The shelf life of eye candy is pretty short.
Posted By: Guest#5924 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 10:04 PM
As sad as it is to say, your average man on the street doesn't give two shits about Bret Hart anymore. 12 years since he was on WWF tv. 9 years since his last match.
And he was never a Billy Graham-esque superdraw anyway. Us Internet types love him, but why should Steve from down the road?
Posted By: ButchReedMark (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 10:06 PM
WWE is unhappy was because the only other time they went head to head with TNA, it was on TNA's night and WWE took half of TNA's audience. This time it was on WWE's turf of Monday nights and TNA actually took a little chunk of their audience.
Posted By: No (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 10:24 PM
WWE is surprised that bret Hart drew only a 3.7, that was a shocker he drew that high, since all the booger little kids dont know who he is, unless they r hardcore wrestling fans. On the other hand, old school fans who are the ages between 18-34 know who bret hart is, but most of us have dish, and RAW started at 6:00 pm, meanwhile cable starts at 9:00 pm, so literally I missed raw, thank god my buddy dvr raw, a lot of my friends r Bret fans, but also missed, lets face it we work and I get off at 8:30 pm. So Bret Hart did a great job, despite many old school fans work, Raw should start at 9:00 pm
Posted By: REBEL (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 10:30 PM
Raw does start at 9 PM...where the hell do you live? It starts at 9 PM both on the WC and EC in the US, I'm not sure what time it starts anywhere else but it's a US based show and that's when it's set to run in the US. If your specific airings are different it's not on WWE for that one. I find fault where there is fault for WWE but come on.
I like Bret but he barely did anything, and even those segments were kinda lame honestly. If HBK superkicked him that woulda made a lot more sense and been a lot more exciting, instead they teased it and did gay hug. Then Vince kicking him in the balls just made it even lamer.
I only watched for Bret and he was pretty much just in 2 segments, and kind of looked like a bitch in both. HBK's speech was akin to someone saying "no offense but" and then going on to say something really offensive that the precursor really doesn't excuse. Something like "no offense but your gf is a slut and I jizzed all over her face yesterday." How does any man just take that and then shake hands and hug the guy for saying that? I mean come on. If HBK didn't have to say that crap maybe it woulda worked better, but he did.
They also don't mention if Hart will be back the next week, so I have no reason to watch. I like Tyson but it's not like he will improve the quality of the show, which is pretty crappy overall. Who knows when there will be more to this Hart storyline, we don't even know when he is scheduled to appear. Is it every week? Every month? We don't know that he's a competitor or what capacity he is. Sure us smarks know that he signed a contract running through WM, but what does that mean for his appearances? And how does that tie in to his on air storyline capacity and why he'd be appearing? They don't build on it at all.
Not a bad bet that he doesn't show up again this month even.
Even if The Rock came back it's not like it'd be more entertaining. The Rock just does PG stuff now and he won't be the same character either. He probably won't even be The Rock, last time he appeared I distinctly remember that he stopped referring to himself in the third person anyway.
These old stars aren't what will make wrestling interesting again. It'll have to be new stars, new guys given serious pushes and freedom to get their characters over. Considering WWE likes to bury most of their young characterse that show any charisma, that is a tall order, unless you think SHeamus will develop it. The guys we wanted to see get a chance always just lose and get no momentum, like Kofi and Punk, until nobody gives a damn about them anymore.
Posted By: Guest#2406 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 11:50 PM
"WWE management is not happy with the WWE Raw rating, as they thought the return of Bret Hart would get them a 4.0 in the ratings. They felt this was possible, even with TNA providing competition. [Credit: Pwinsider.com]"
Bret was not booked as well as he could have been as Guest Host. Only one interaction backstage with a wrestler (his longtime friend Jericho) and the Bret/Vince segment was a rather bizarre choice if ya ask me. It would've made a lot more sense for Bret to pre-emptively attack Vince given 12 years of bitterness and backbiting between the two. Bret can be booked as a badass face now like Austin once was due to the Montreal ScrewJob and its aftermath where he spit in Vince's face and punched him out backstage after being shafted out of the title in Canada.
DX should stop being pushed to the moon also. I was at the Dayton show and I can tell ya I'm tired of these washed up Vince McMahon toe-sucking has-beens.
Furthermore, does anyone actually believe Bret and Shawn have buried the hatchet after that half-hearted hug?
Bret called him a coward and a yellowdog in his book and "born-again" Shawn doesn't seem to have changed that much from the old politickin' sophomoric ass he used to be. Him & HHH are still telling people to "suck it!", being poor role models for kids and pretending to be rebels though Vince's son-in-law and his adopted bastard son are anything but.
Michael Hickenbottom and Paul Levesque couldn't even bring themselves to go the ring with the wrestlers to give Bret his moment with the fans after the show. Huuuuge Surprise! When have they not put their rancid backstage politics and ginourmous egos before the fans?
Posted By: onephatdude (Guest) on January 07, 2010 at 04:22 AM
Just face it: more people wanted to see The Nasty Boys than they did DX.
Posted By: Devin (Guest) on January 07, 2010 at 08:34 AM
Maybe if WWE annouced Bret Hart alot sooner than a week before more people would have tuned it. Something like that should be hyped like Wrestlemania.
Posted By: Dana (Guest) on January 07, 2010 at 09:52 AM
Most people bitch about Hornswoggle but he has one of the loudest pop's of anyone that is why he is still out there.
Posted By: Guest#1657 (Guest) on January 06, 2010 at 06:30 PM
Oh, so NOW they're concerned with crowd reaction? Where was that when Christian left or when Cena was getting booed out of every arena in the country?
Posted By: Tony Majestic (Guest) on January 07, 2010 at 12:54 PM
of course they are not going to have high ratings because wwe today isnt hardcore like it used to be now it is so boring because of wwe wanting it to be PG for children.
Posted By: Nic (Guest) on January 24, 2010 at 03:15 PM
Lol... As long as the wwe keeps this PG nonsense up, they might as well expect their ratings to plummet every week. Sooner or later, all the little kids will realize how pathetic this garbage is and stop watching wwe. Then that worthless, senile, coward Vince McMahon will lose the one thing he cares about... Money. I am strictly a TNA fan because they give the fans what we want. The wwe is a disgrace to professional wrestling and sports entertainment.
Posted By: Kamikaze (Guest) on July 13, 2010 at 07:00 PM
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