WWE Is Dropping The Survivor Series
Posted by Larry Csonka on 02.11.2010
So says Vince...
- During today's WWE Conference call, Vince McMahon announced that after 23 years, that the company would be dropping the Survivor Series name. The Survivor Series is the second longest running WWE PPV title in the company's history. Here is Vince McMahon's quote from the call…
"We think that Survivor Series is obsolete, as far as that title is concerned. It was something that worked many, many years ago, in terms of a creative standpoint, various teams competing. That really is not advantageous as the consumer now looks as what actually they are buying. And it's such a broad ... Survivor Series yes, many years ago, was one of the original four pay-per-views, but it's outlasted its usage and it is one of the things in terms of rebranding, this year and going forward, that will be rebranded. No longer will we have that title, Survivor Series."
This is stupid, the Survivor Series is unique. It needs to stay
Posted By: dogpound7382 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Screw surv series- bring back King of the Ring
Posted By: Ultra Gepetto (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM
woah...
Posted By: jbl (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM
In the words of Carlton Banks...
You Bastard!! :(
Posted By: Guest#9377 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM
No words can express the rage I'm feeling right now.
So what's this RoH you kiddies like to go on about? Cause between this and the shit that's in TNA right now... I'm just fucking done.
Posted By: Rant Casey (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Here we go Agaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiinnn....
Posted By: P.T. (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Oh, I thought he was talking about ECW.
Posted By: Joey Nic (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM
I mean it is his company i mean i'm just saying
Posted By: CrizzMane (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
That's a horrible idea.
Posted By: Jeff (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
I find that pretty surprising, he didn't specifically say the survivor series match was gone, but the PPV gimmick seems to be.
Which is surprising given most of WWEs PPVs this year look to be gimmick based (all of them spelled out for us too)
Posted By: Guest#4636 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
how shit, he has a point, though.
Posted By: gravityspull (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Perhaps WWE is so stale because the only change to his precious (but boring) format is "rebranding". Someone like Cornette and Heyman make things too interesting for the casual fans, but a simple re-title, that's okay!
Posted By: Jon (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Eh, big whoop.
Posted By: Deathpool (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Given the new trend of how they name things, I assume the replacement PPV will be called "TITLE MATCHES, MIDCARD FILLER AND A WOMENS MATCH FOR A BATHROOM BREAK"
Posted By: Stanley (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM
FUCK YOU VINCE!!!!!!!!!
I am so sick and tired of the bullshit he pulls! You are a wrestling promoter!! Nothing more than that!!! As soon as his ass went public he has bastardized the whole thing! Fuck you Vince, I hate you for ruining something that was not broken...
Posted By: Kirk (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Ive said it before, and I will say it once again, Vince Mc Mahon YOU'RE AN IDIOT! My hope is one day Vince will do something so reprehensable that he chases his audience away, and one day it's going to happen. TNA's already doing it. This is why I say today's pathetic excuse for wrestling sucks.
Posted By: Paul Westbrook (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
LET'S RENAME IT:
WWE 5v5 Elimination Tag Matches
YEAH THAT WORKS MUCH BETTER
Posted By: Guest#9680 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
P.s. I think it's Vince Mc Mahon who is obsolete.
Posted By: Paul Westbrook (continued) (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Noooo!!!!!!!!
It was a great show! I guess the numbers were low this year, the problems occurred when they added more world title matches to the show, they really should have tried to keep it a team-based event.
I see that WWE has a new survey out asking the readers to vote for some new PPVs: some including the tournament based one, a Money in the Bank PPV, Battlebowl, War Games, etc. Hopefully we get some fresh new PPVs.
Posted By: Guest#7634 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Makes sense to get rid of it. Always kind of hated the build up to those teams.
Posted By: Guest#9203 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM
How about another gimmick themed ppv? I know I can't wait for a PPV full of Coal Miner's Glove matches!
Posted By: vexed (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM
As a long term fan I'll be sad to see it go but vince is right it def has lost it's lustre a while ago. Maybe they'll replace it with war games?
Posted By: Angel street (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Now we can have another PPV named after one of the matches. Maybe WWE: Triple Threat.
Posted By: Mr. C. (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Actually, it's my favorite concept / type of PPV. If played right, it can be great, seeing all this various teams eliminating each other. Then again, if your creative is not too creative, they can ruin even this great concept.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM
This sucks!!! Survivor Series use to be one of my favorite events when it was solely the traditional Survivor Series match ups
Posted By: Guest#0528 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM
WOW
Posted By: Foolio (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM
That's a shame, It's bullshit that they're changin it. It was known as one of the 4 major ppv's and now it's just gonna be another ppv. That may not be how its presented but that's what it's gonna feel like. Bring back the kotr tournament which helped catapult many superstars to that next level.
Posted By: Guest#0188 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM
Ludicrous. I don't think the Survivor Series got old, it might have just needed to be freshened up. I always thought they should have 3 or 4 5 on 5 matches with the members of the winning teams being thrown into a mini-battle royal later that night. The sole-"Survivor" gets his number pick at the Rumble.
You could have had lots on interesting things going on, like a tough guy who wants number one to prove he can beat everyone or to take the odds and go with number 30.
Posted By: Guest#0209 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM
To be replaced by... WWE Special Referee, a whole PPV dedicated to matches involving special refs...
Posted By: Damian Bartlett (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Bwahaahahahahahahaha!!!
Vince is an IDIOT!
Posted By: Guest#8398 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Awesome, so let's get rid of the Royal Rumble and WrestleMania while we're at it!!!
Matter fact, we don't need rings...or wrestlers!!!
Let's just all sit in a circle and stare at each other...
It'll still be better than TNA.
Posted By: Mike of Da F'n Jungle (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Anybody want to bet on the new name for the November PPV being 'WWE 10-Man Elimimation Tag Team Matches'? Really rolls off the tongue.
Posted By: Creativo (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Man, that sucks! I remember first getting into wrestling back in '90 and the idea behind the Survivor Series fascinated me and the pictures of these odd collection of teams wrestling each other until there could only be one guy against four or five was brill.
Maybe they'll keep the concept of the match and just drop the title but it's a real shame that the wrestling year can't now be divided into four seasons anymore.
Posted By: Nardo (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM
It's dead because they let the concept die. I hate WWE more and more everyday as they are slowly alienating their fans who helped make Vince a billionaire. I've been watching wrestling for 20+ years and this, from a wrestling business standpoint, is one of the worst choices he has ever made.
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM
i miss the survivor series. that's how u get ppl like the rock and ahmed johnson.
Posted By: Guest#5509 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM
How about going in the other direction and actually making it a "Survivor Series"
Let's return the show back to its concept---all elimination matches. Now we've got to replace it with some other lamebrained concept.
WWE Creative--An oxymoron if there ever was one.
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Uhhh... Does This Mean That I Should Start Looking For A New Job?
Posted By: The Gobbledy Gooker (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM
Vince your an idiot.
Posted By: Guest#4651 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:40 PM
This may have to do with the apparent 26% drop in revenue from last year's to the year previous.
Posted By: Guest#8532 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Yes, as a traditionalist, this sucks, but I can honestly say I haven't given WWE money for a Survivor Series since I purchased the 2003 DVD. Other than that I ordered the 1996 PPV and...that's about it. The "WWE Universe" just isn't interested in five-on-five elimination matches and Vince would be a fool to keep it around simply cos it's always been around.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM
I suppose it had to in the end. It has drifted far from the original format which made it so special in the late 80's early 90's.
Posted By: Guest#8335 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Seems far enough to me
Posted By: Morph (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:44 PM
WWE: We have no clue what we are doing!!
Posted By: Guest#8419 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM
FUCK YOU VINCE
Posted By: Guest#0245 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM
i am willing to accept change. but to drop THE SURVIVOR SERIES! COME ON NOW!
the concept still works. the entire ppv doesnt have to be elimination tag matches. the 2009 edition was decent.
Posted By: rey (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Dont drop it i love the Surivor Series cause it shows who can really team up with each other and if you do WWE you will lose the up comein battle with TNA.
Posted By: Doni (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:46 PM
With the recent change in pay per view names to follow themed matches, I've decided to change the name survivor series to wrestling match
Posted By: Vince McMahon (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM
I am not happy about this one. Keep original the four.
Posted By: Guest#5011 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Fuck You Vince!
Posted By: Guest#8150 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM
What a pitty IMO, the survivor series was a good concept many years ago, but now it has been down graded to a " regular " ppv we always see. I loved the concept of teams vs teams, I think the WWE screwed up by taking that away years ago. Guess we can all say RIP Gobbling Gooker !
Posted By: guest hazell (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:50 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Posted By: WHY? (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:51 PM
this is bullshit /clap clap clap clap clap/ this is bullshit /clap clap clap clap clap/ this is bullshit /clap clap clap clap clap/ this is bullshit /clap clap clap clap clap/ this is bullshit /clap clap clap clap clap/ this is bullshit /clap clap clap clap clap/
GREAT. Now we can get another generic ppv with a generic theme and forced stips. FUCK Vince. Your on crack.
Posted By: 16s (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Proving once again that Vince doesn't know what fans want, because I, and all of my wrestling fan friends, purchase Survivor Series almost on name alone because of the concept of elimination matches being guaranteed to be on the show. Good going Vince, whatever bland, unoriginally-titled PPV you go with to replace it (WWE Falls Count Anywhere!, WWE Traditional Rules!, WWE One on One Match with One Fall to a Finish!, etc.) will surely do just fine.
Posted By: Sabotage (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM
Survivor Series screwed Survivor Series
Posted By: Vince (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Then he continues: "We're replacing it with WWE Bra & Panties, where every match will be a bra & panties match. The main event will feature the return of two great superstars as Big Daddy V faces off against JBL."
Posted By: Guest#1386 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM
oh god dammit. why can't we have nice things?
Posted By: ausjimmy (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:00 PM
Aww FUCK THIS!
Posted By: Guest#8649 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:02 PM
Jesus Christ, the old fart has finally gone insane!!!
Posted By: Yos (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:02 PM
FUCK THAT NOISE
Posted By: Guest#7304 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:02 PM
So wait, are they changing the PPV theme or just the name?
As long as they keep the 5-on-5 tag team elimination matches, they could call it WWE Shit On A Stick for all I care. :P
Posted By: Guy (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:03 PM
So, new name is gonna be WWE: 5 on 5 elimination?
Posted By: Jedi (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:03 PM
MAYBE your loyal consumer base LIKES Survivor Series, Vince. MAYBE we have a sense of familiarity with that name. MAYBE, doing this will piss of your loyal fan base, and the ones you're trying to bring in STILL WON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!! What's next? You gonna rebrand WrestleMania, while you're at it? Stop re-inventing the fuckin wheel, Vince. Not everything has to have a damn gimmick.
Posted By: the Mad Redneck (Registered) on February 11, 2010 at 01:03 PM
This is pretty saddening stuff to hear
Posted By: screwedup (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:05 PM
So what now its going to be WWE Presents Ladder Matches?
Is Summerslam really going to be Summerfest?
Posted By: Guest#3616 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:06 PM
We think thInk that survivor series is obsolete " ....this coming from a man who continually has his son-in-law headlining wrestlemanias and has John Cena doing the same kiddie act FORCING him upon people since 2004. It's clear the only thing obsolete is Vince's grasp of reality. His daughter writes the shows and she has no clue what she is doing. Vince was Sheamus becoming champion a good move also?
Posted By: ... (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:07 PM
Way to go Vince, Crap on the one PPV that made you Mr. McMahon and turned the tide during the Monday Night Wars. So what do we get in place of the Survivor Series? WWE Steel Cage?
Posted By: MrFrEEz33 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:07 PM
five words....
WAR GAMES: THE MATCH BEYOND
Posted By: Guest#5025 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:07 PM
How about Survivor Series: War Games? Get a clue McMahon, I don't want to see a stupid Money in the Bank or Street fight themed PPV replacing my favorite event.
Posted By: Pissed off (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:08 PM
Seriously, what the fuck is Vince doing? Keep Survivor Series and just add Wargames as the annual event (ala Money in the bank at 'Mania).
Posted By: Dancin'Midget (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:08 PM
boooooo keep it
Posted By: iceberg (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:10 PM
I think I know the new name for the show
"Tag Team Elimination Chaos."
Posted By: Pedro (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:10 PM
The optimist in me interprets this as meaning: the name will be changed, but there may still be a PPV that features elimination-style tag matches.
But this brings up other questions. Is the Rumble still Royal? Do they still wrestle at Mania?
Posted By: Guest#2267 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:11 PM
ive been to 2 of the big 4 and now that this is happening ill never go to all :( ive been to Summerslam and Royal Rumble
Posted By: iceberg (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:11 PM
It's about time. Although the ten-man elimination style matches were fun, they're old now, as it does nothing for individual storylines. Vince is just trying to get rid of the Montreal Screwjob
Posted By: CryptoBiz (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:11 PM
Dummy
Posted By: poppasquat (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:11 PM
I'd imagine people won't like it but Survivor Series hasn't really delivered memorable team matches since the Invasion blowoff.
Bragging Rights has replaced it.
Posted By: ROH Commish (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:11 PM
Why must Vince piss on everything, this is a huge mistake!
Posted By: Irish Fan (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:13 PM
Uhhhh... So Does This Mean I Should Start Looking For Another Job ?
Posted By: The Gobbledy Gooker (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:15 PM
Who will survive?
Posted By: KoseFranz (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:20 PM
Oh hell to the no!
Posted By: IWC (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:20 PM
wicked LAME, horrible mistake Vince, Survivor Series is one of THREE pay per views that i actually order.
Posted By: ripstamps (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:20 PM
Why Vince Why? I can't wait for WWE Steel Cage Match PPVs coming in November.
Posted By: Jack (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:22 PM
Is the new PPV gonna be named after a type of match like 'Elimination Chamber' and 'Hell in a Cell' are? If so I think 'Singles Match' or '4 Man Elimination Tag Team Match' are catchy names for PPVs.
Posted By: yowza (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:23 PM
I dont watch wrestling as a whole that much anymore but seriously? what the fuck vince
Posted By: C'mon (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:28 PM
Unbelievable... Fuck you Vince and Steph... Let's give every ppv a shitty gimmick name.
Posted By: fuck you vince (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:28 PM
What the fuck?
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:29 PM
Wow. That sucks...big time! I hate to say Vince is wrong because he's obviously made a lot of the right decisions to have the WWE become the success that it is. But as a longtime loyal fan, I disagree that today's consumer has a problem with the name "Survivor Series" or the show's concept. Besides, the statement was a little confusing. Are they just dropping the name or the name and the tag team elimination concept?
Posted By: MachoManFanStill (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:30 PM
hey they were right about king of the ring, so i trust them.
Posted By: mike whatever (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:30 PM
Bullshit.
Posted By: Random (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:32 PM
Another nail in the coffin for my interest in wrestling.
Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:32 PM
that is bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: joe (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:33 PM
Here is my take on it.
good riddance and Good for Vince. he is absolutely right. The show was based on a gimmick that worked in the past because they had a bunch of teams but now since they dont, there is no reason to keep it around. Survivor Series gave us a bunch of great shows but lets face it, it was time for it to go. Its not like the 5 on 5 matches are even relevant anymore
Posted By: Guest#9210 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:34 PM
NOOOOOO!
I mean, it does make sense based on what he said, but NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Posted By: Captain Sasspants (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:36 PM
WTF!?..
Posted By: Ja (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:38 PM
hate those classic ideas, lol. This is the best concept, maybe second best to royal rumble and they are getting rid of it, what a joke.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:39 PM
Vince has it all backwards.
He needs to pick a god damned format for the Survivor Series and stick with it!
Ever since Undertaker vs. Hogan in 91 he screwed up the whole thing.
4 on 4 was the best. 5 on 5 was acceptable.
Calling them the 'traditional' matches is abandoning the older generation.
Period.
Posted By: Hans Booby (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:40 PM
Well thats bull****
Posted By: chris (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:42 PM
I agree with Vince, there is not an incentive to Survivor Series 4 on 4 does nothing these days. Back in the day you could get away with it, not not so much. Sure I'm sorry to see it go, my cherry was popped on Survivor Series 1989, but it makes sense. Don't hate
Posted By: FireStarter (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:43 PM
Well with the PPV dropping about 100,000 in ppv buys from the year before I can see why. a 100,000 drop at 39.99 comes to about 4 Million bucks but after factoring in PPV fees and such its maybe 3.5 Million lost. That and all the new gimmicked themed ppv out drew what they did last year. It is a panic move really, they thought that since the new gimmick ppvs drew better than the year before, that they have to re-gimmick the November PPV as well. But if it gets turned into the Wargames PPV I won't be as sad.
Posted By: DUH (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:44 PM
Ugh. What the hell is wrong with this company.
What is next, Royal Rumble?
Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:45 PM
Now I can make my triumphant return at WWE PRESENTS ROMAFEST!!! Where I take on all champions in separate matches.
Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:45 PM
Good decision in my opinion, but why stop Survivor Series then continue on with Hell in a Cell/TLC/Breaking Point etc.
Posted By: WWETNAROHfan (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:47 PM
That sucks. The only reason the tag team elimination format doesn't work is because you don't have any good tag teams anymore Vince, you dumbass
Posted By: Aaron (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:47 PM
Fail
Posted By: Captain Obvious (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:48 PM
"Survivor Series yes, many years ago, was one of the original four pay-per-views, but it's outlasted its usage"
Well, maybe if you didn't bastardize the spirit of the PPV and continued to use it as a series of elimination matches it would still be going strong. It has not been Survivor Series for a long time Vinny Mac.
Posted By: SuperJeff (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:49 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Posted By: Bruno (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:49 PM
I'll rebrand you, you little bitch, Vince.
Posted By: Comment Board Poster (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:49 PM
THIS IS RIDICULOUS..With the team concept they can go back and forth between raw and smackdown etc..DAMN YOU VINCE , DAMN YOU
Posted By: Bobby Heenan (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:50 PM
sounds like the old man's losing it. hope linda and shane don't live in the same house he does.
Posted By: Guest#3498 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:50 PM
gay!!! survivor series was to me right up there with royal rumble and wrestlemania. What is obsolete is Vince's thinking when it comes to the PPV.
why dont you try and make it what it was to begin with teams vs teams instead of scrapping it.
Posted By: ravensrules (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:50 PM
mehh....makes sense i guess...no qualms
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:53 PM
BULLSHIT! DOUCHE!!!
Posted By: Lord Keedik (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:54 PM
I don't know Vince, maybe if you actually stuck to the concept it wouldn't be outdated...Survivor Series was always a great way to advance feuds and come up with interesting team pairings...
Posted By: xugreatone (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:56 PM
And... cue the hateful comments...
Okay, I admit, for a minute, I was disappointed, but when I really think about it, it makes total sense, from a creative perspective.
Survivor Series matches made sense back in the day when all faces and heels were supposed to be friends with each other, respectively. But nowadays, Survivor Series teams are forced together, and the dynamic just isn't the same.
Sad to see it go, because I was there from the beginning and have a lot of great SS memories, but let's go ahead and put this one to bed.
Posted By: Guest#1903 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:56 PM
"Fuck them"
-Vince McMahon on longterm wrestling fans
Posted By: Guest#3198 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:56 PM
I think considering how boring the last one was, and how someone called it "Snore Series" killed it.
Posted By: Guest#8345 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:57 PM
thts crazy theres soo much history in tht name alone why would they ever wanna change it?? now its gnna be some weird name thts gnna sound childishh....great
Posted By: HBK23 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:57 PM
What bullshit.
Yeah it was the NAME of the PPV that was the problem..... idiots.
Posted By: Tim (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:57 PM
I remember the first Servivor Series, it has always been an addition to my Thanksgiving!!! What will Wrestle Mania be next? Seriously, keep the name its traditional in so many ways!!!
Posted By: Dan (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:58 PM
Sad to see this go. Long live the Rude Brood!
Posted By: SMS (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:59 PM
It is with THAT attitude, Vince. I miss the days of old with team elimination matches.
Hell, I miss the days of elimination matches in general.
Posted By: ThatNickGuy78 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:01 PM
No, Vince. Just, no.
Posted By: Guest#4836 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:04 PM
Maybe it doesn't "work" anymore, because McMahon and the creative staff can't actually commit to the concept. Instead they dance around it every year and only have 2 or 3 Survivor Series matches instead of actually making it a whole pay-per-view dedicated to the survivor series matches... Douchenozzle...
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:05 PM
Good for them. I loved the Survivor Series when it first started, but its not been used properly for years. They just kept it around for all this time because they did not want to upset their fan base. But if you look back at the Survivor Series PPV's over the past 15 years, the title matches and other matches were the priority. They'd throw together some random guys to have some meaningless "Traditional" Survivor Series match.
Sad that it no longer works today, but if its not being used properly, then I'm glad its gone.
Posted By: Fate (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:05 PM
*brain explodes*
Posted By: Cactus (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:07 PM
I understand where he's coming from. 5 on 5 elimination matches were always a cute novelty, but what did they ultimately mean in the end? I think the Survivor Series would have died years ago if it weren't for the brand extension and the idea of making those matches interpromotional. Although I have to say that whatever concept is used for the new November PPV better be one that will get people to buy it(WarGames anyone?)
Posted By: Ricky C. (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:07 PM
The PPV name will now be "Five on Five"
Posted By: Mattheapar (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:08 PM
RIP
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:08 PM
WAR GAMES PLEASE!
Posted By: Michael'sHaze (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:09 PM
This is such crap. First off Survivor is still relivent on reality tv, much as I hate reality tv. Second, if they returned to the past where they had all the top names involved and then had all the survivors fight again at the end of the night to further feuds, then it might regain it's popularity. Vince has devalued it on his own. I still remember once when Bischoff was compiling his all star team to compete with Smackdown, and left Triple H off of it, cause he was feuding with Flair. It's crap like this that has done what not even the Gobbly Gooker couldn't, and that is killed off what was once a great pay per view...Idiots
Posted By: Y2J (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:09 PM
I understand where he's coming from. 5 on 5 elimination matches were always a cute novelty, but what did they ultimately mean in the end? I think the Survivor Series would have died years ago if it weren't for the brand extension and the idea of making those matches interpromotional. Although I have to say that whatever concept is used for the new November PPV better be one that will get people to buy it(WarGames anyone?)
Posted By: Ricky C. (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Starrcade!
Posted By: Big Poppa Poop (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:10 PM
wow first they take King of the Ring and now Survivor Series? Whats next the Royal Rumble? Fuck you Vince this is why I only watch RoH these days.
Posted By: stronelis (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:15 PM
Hmm, throwing a little bone to Bret, perhaps? Considering that one of the most infamous moments in wrestling history happened at the Survivor Series...
Posted By: CourtesyFlush (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:17 PM
ugh...
Posted By: Danny (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:22 PM
If the Survivor Series concept made money, VKM would have kept it.
Seeing as how it isn't making money, then VKM has an obligation to the shareholders to come up with something more profitable, and an obligation to the fans to sell a concept they're willing to buy.
If everyone who felt sentimental about this PPV shelled out their $40 last November, we probably wouldn't be reading this news right now.
Posted By: Dur (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:24 PM
I remember when Survivor Series constied of 5 man teams... I am in the minorty but I am in favor of dropping the Survivor Series.. Its just a name... It hasn't been a Survivor Series in a long time
Posted By: Horhay (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:26 PM
They've pissed on the concept for so long that SurSer has been little more than a standard PPV for quite a few years now. Still, it's one of the Big Four. Shit.
Posted By: woody (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:31 PM
Thanks Vince... now I only need to buy thr pay per views a year from you
Posted By: Anal Masturbation (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:34 PM
What's Bragging Rights for?
Posted By: Survivor Series (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:35 PM
guess we know why they didnt release the entire anthology version now haha
Posted By: jcmoney (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:45 PM
No more Survivor Series? Give me WarGames and i'll be happy, the actual concept of The Survivor Series died a looooong time ago, so the name going doesn't hurt me all that much but to replace that with WarGames would be AWESOME!!!!
Posted By: ShowTimeSince79 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:47 PM
same ppv, it'll just be called something stupid now
Posted By: Guest#6372 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:49 PM
damn, there goes my favorite ppv
Posted By: Litas Biggest Fan (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:53 PM
lol they're just going to change the name. They figure their current audience is too stupid to know what something is unless it is spelled out.
So it will be WWE Elimination Tag. I'd prefer it go back to the 4v4 format, 5v5 is too much.
Posted By: Guest#5702 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 02:53 PM
"That really is not advantageous as the consumer now looks as what actually they are buying."
Yeah, God knows I never fucking ordered one of those things back in the glory days of the PPV with any knowledge of what was going to happen.
Oh, wait. That's right. The storylines that constituted the teams were built steadily over FOUR FUCKING MONTHS prior to the PPV itself. I can see where something as arduous as actually crafting good angles would be an impossibility, better to shitcan the whole format.
Idiots.
Posted By: Meirsch (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:02 PM
Bring back World War 3
The 3 rings in the arena were just awesome. Only good PPV the WCW ever had.
Posted By: Kanye West (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:08 PM
lol
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:10 PM
DUde why change that? it is where so many SUPERSTARS came from. the biggest name to be said THE UNDERTAKER. Bring it back to the ols school why. all 4 man tag matches, not 2 but like 8. Thats the big buy not seeing HHH fight Bog show for the title for the tenth time in a year. Dont do it Vince
Posted By: WWF Fan (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:11 PM
Uhhhhh... Does This Mean I Need To Start Looking For A New Job ?
Posted By: The Gobbledy Gooker (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:16 PM
My guess -- they'll use the elimination stipulation during the final tag match at Bragging Rights.
Posted By: Guest#0200 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:19 PM
To any fan who rembers the original 5 Survivor Series' and the build ups it was tremendous. I think a real petition should be started. To Bring back the Survivor Series. No one ever said it quite like Gene Okerlund. If you dont believe me watch the episodes of Superstars leading up to the 1991 Survivor Series then watch the opening match at 1991 and tell me it wasnt epic. Remember when they announced the teams in October and you had over a month of build where they would do interviews as a team. Then when Survivor Series rolled around you knew the teams and who was on them and the specific feuds. You didnt have that within the last few years. See ever since the OVERATED ATTITUDE ERA Vince McMahon has been under the impression of this shades of gray bullshit where nobody should be buddy buddy or friends so you dont have any clear cut faces or heels and all the while he thinks he can find the new Steve Austin. Well there will NEVER be a new Stone Cold and for wrestling to move forward it has to go backwards to the simpleness of face and heel. If you made guys like Swagger MVP Carlito Masters Chavo Primo and the like clear faces and or heels instead of flipping back and forth depending on the week. They might get some real heat instead of apathy.
Posted By: Radtke (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:30 PM
I know everyone seems to be pretty upset about this, but really, the Survivor Series ceased to be really unique when they only started having about 2 elimination tag matches per year. It's just a normal PPV that happens to have a couple 10 man tags thrown in, not exactly very unique anymore. I'll miss the name Survivor Series, but as a unique event, the last time they focused on team matches was back in 1993.
Posted By: D$ (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:32 PM
A bunch of whiners in here don't like change. The Survivor Series PPV was DOWN 28% in buys, all the gimmick-named PPVs went UP. Vince is absolutely making the correct decision to end what isn't making his company money.
He's obligated to promote shows that make his company money. He's not obligated to uphold the childhood nostalgia of a bunch of IWC purists who will pirate a feed of the show anyway.
Also, who loving CARES what the show is called? There will still be a November PPV, there will still be wrestling to watch.
Posted By: Guest#4379 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:33 PM
Maybe the plan for this year is to replace it with an Undertaker themed event to mark his debut 20 years ago. King Kong Bundy v Giant Gonzalez, i cant wait!
Posted By: hitmanstud (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:34 PM
How about this? For one of there 3 hour RAWS, they do all tag team elimination matches? It would be like a free Survivor Series...they could even call it Survivor Series, similar to how they started holding King of the Ring tournaments on RAW...
Posted By: D$ (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:36 PM
TERRIBLE
Posted By: The Anvil (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:37 PM
LAME! The only thing about Sur Ser that needs to be changed is having more, if not all, elimination matches. Thumbs down, Vinnie.
Posted By: Gay! (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:38 PM
How could the concept be OBSOLETE when the Survivor Series style MATCH hasnt really been USED in the Survivor Series for YEARS?!?!?!?!?
If Vince just wants to do different things then fine, "rebrand" the PPV. Dont whip out the lame old "obsolete" excuse.
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:40 PM
Coming soon WWE Triple Threat featuring Triple H in every match and winning
Posted By: Guest#0227 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:44 PM
Ok got my thought process going now.
If Vince is still TRULY the businessman he was, he would have one more Survivor Series PPV. This time, back to BASICS....ALL matches are SS style matches. Give the "obsolete concept ONE more try, but dont throw in gimmicky matches. No Cell or cage matches, NO title matches, JUST Survivor Series matches. Then he can let the fans and the numbers decide.
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:45 PM
Wow... One of the 3 watchable PPVs of the year. Lets lose the Rumble and Mania next
Posted By: Guest#6437 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:46 PM
Am I the only one who feels that vince is giving a big middle finger to and completely f'n over the loyal wrestling fans who supported him through the rock n wrestling and attitude eras!? Hope all those five year olds your catering to now Vince get jobs real quick or your gonna lose alot of money alienating your real fan base!
Posted By: manbearpig (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:49 PM
I think Keep the name Survivor Series and have the War games match being the main attraction.
Posted By: tweeter (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:56 PM
"Vince your an idiot.
Posted By: Guest#4651 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:40 PM"
I am always amused by people that call others an idiot, stupid, or any derogatory term aimed at the person's intelligence... and cannot use "you're" correctly.
I applaud the move myself, and agree that the Survivor Series format has run its course. An entire pay-per-view filled with 4-on-4 teams that would never normally team together used to be a novelty that was worth an entire event. Today, it seems almost every main event in wrestling leading up to pay-per-views is the random 2-on-2, 3-on-3, etc. matchups featuring the faces in the PPV's main events versus the heels.
We see Survivor Series forty times a year for free; why would I want to pay for it?
Posted By: Michael921 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:03 PM
WWE proudly presents: Monntreal Screwjob PPV
Posted By: Guest#8553 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:04 PM
So "Survivor Series', one of my favorite old-school WWF concepts, is dead too?
Screw You, McMahon!!
Posted By: JTX (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:04 PM
What's next the Royal Rumble?
Posted By: JM (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:04 PM
"Vince your an idiot."
Posted By: Guest#4651 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Wonder if that "idiot" Vince knows the difference between "your" and "you're".
Posted By: VKM (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:09 PM
There are is seriously some ridiculousness here.
The "loyal consumers base" must not like it too much as the PPV has done terrible buyrates for one of the "big" shows. I didn't expect it to be cut but I did expect it to no longer be pushed as hard either.
If something no longer draws, cut it loose. Keeping things around just for the sake of "tradition" is mind blowingly stupid.
Posted By: Guest#2386 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:21 PM
I like Vince's "if the head hurts, lets chop it off" mentality. So it's easier to cancel Survivor Series altogether, than to admit that he dropped the ball in how he promoted it in recent years? Survivor Series as a concept might be outdated, but it was one of WWE's big 4 PPVs. And it was nicely placed too. Between Summerslam and the Royal Rumble. It was the connection between allinaces being formed and feuds beginning.
Also, while every other fall PPV felt the same, this was the one that stood out due to its illastrious history. This is a mistake by Vince because it will allienate to a degree the loyal fanbase that has followed WWE for years.
Finally, what's the message here? If the Royal Rumble's buys continue to drop, then he will cancel that one too?
Posted By: CS22 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:21 PM
son of a b.....
dammit!
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo this is so stupid!
>:(
Posted By: marc (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:32 PM
elimination chamber ppv, tlc ppv, hell in a cell ppv
now.....8 guys one ring.
Posted By: jims (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:33 PM
WWE presents Vintage, the only announcer will be micheal cole for 3 hours.
Posted By: Guest#7971 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:38 PM
Stupid! Stupid!
Posted By: RKO (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:43 PM
"the 2009 edition was decent"
And it's buyrate was terrible. That matters more than your smarkish opinion.
Posted By: Guest#9598 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:59 PM
Hey Vince, you should disconnect your hardcore fans some more by getting rid of Wrestlemania and Royal Rumble. They are pretty obsolete too.
And this guy's on top?
Posted By: Bleh (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:08 PM
The WWE officially sucks now. End of topic.
Posted By: Johnny (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:10 PM
It makes perfect sense for a variety of reasons.
The two main ones being that Vince hates tag team wrestling, and the other being that 90% of his roster are about as generic as you can get so why not throw them on a shitty generic-named PPV.
Seeing as how people love blandness these days, this new generic PPV will do well.
Posted By: Magnum TOKYO, JP (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:14 PM
Yes, as a traditionalist, this sucks, but I can honestly say I haven't given WWE money for a Survivor Series since I purchased the 2003 DVD. Other than that I ordered the 1996 PPV and...that's about it. The "WWE Universe" just isn't interested in five-on-five elimination matches and Vince would be a fool to keep it around simply cos it's always been around.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Who are you to speak for the WWE Universe? Who are you to say that all 8 yr olds hate 5v5 matches? And finally... Who are you to doubt El Dandy?
Posted By: Bret Hart (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:16 PM
"I always thought they should have 3 or 4 5 on 5 matches with the members of the winning teams being thrown into a mini-battle royal later that night. The sole-"Survivor" gets his number pick at the Rumble."
DAMN! That is one interesting concept, ripe with potential for wrestlers to scheme, double-team, and betray each other, just to get the Rumble's number 30 spot.
Too bad it's more "creative" than anything we'd ever get from the monkeys currently hammering away at the WWE typewriters.
Posted By: Abdullah The Butcher (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:17 PM
lame
Posted By: y2jabba (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:18 PM
It's okay, everybody! Mr. McMahon is purposely trying to destroy his company now so that when Stephanie & Paul Michael McMahon take over they'll have to prove to be worthy owners by putting the company back together again!
It's genius! Vince McMahon is a genius of epic Lanny Poffo proportions!
Posted By: HBK's lost smile (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:23 PM
Leave the memories alone...
Posted By: Guest#1842 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:24 PM
here come about 32108 more mma fans!
Posted By: Guest#6514 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:25 PM
I'm sure in some bizarro world, the Undertaker didn't hatch from an egg and the Gobblygooker didn't dominate on Ted Dibiase's team.
Way to screw over history, Vinnie Mac!
Posted By: Inmate 90201 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:26 PM
Survivor Series screwed Survivor Series
Posted By: Vince (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Genius. Comment of the day!
Posted By: Bean (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:33 PM
They should rework the concept, not kill it all together. i always thought the matches could have been done war games style. Start off with one from each team. when 1 is eliminated you send out 2 more[one from each team naturally]so you have a 2 on 1 or even a 3 on 1 before all the guys are out there. rework it ...dont kill it
Posted By: Jeff Albertson (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:45 PM
LOL at the pissed off fans. Who cares they just put in random wrestlers in random team which is unattractive. 05' was the only good one, when they had the RAW vs. SD! concept.
Moreover, everyone is saying fuck gimmick ppvs? Isn't survivor Series a gimmick too. and who the hell said it was going ro be renamed 5x5 elimination.
quit being so negative IWC
Posted By: 2 frsh 37 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:48 PM
this is bullshit
*clap clap clapclapclap*
what now? wwe presents: generic aggresive name ppv forced into a theme+stip redux?
Posted By: 16s (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:55 PM
Nope, you're wrong Vince.
And f this news. Survivor Series is great.
Posted By: Guest#2911 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 05:58 PM
He's gonna bring back Starrcade
Posted By: TheRev (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:02 PM
Bullshit! I loved SS!
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:09 PM
Big mistake Vince. I didnt see what the buyrates were for this year's. Unless they were horrible then theres no need to eliminate a classic WWE PPV like Survivor Series. What are you going to do next eliminate Summerslam and the Royal Rumble too?
Posted By: guestwwe (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:14 PM
22 years to be a PPV is a long time
Posted By: Andre the Giant (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:15 PM
why not just have the wargames at survivor series?!!?
Posted By: Guest#7855 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:18 PM
Why does anyone even care. It is a PPV. People go on about how they want change. And look what happens when things do change. people still bitch. NO matter what anyone does in the WWE or TNA. someone is going to find something to bitch about.
Posted By: Ryan 2245 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:23 PM
The thing is, Survivor Series could still easily work with their new vision of gimmick match PPVs. Is it really so difficult to make EVERY match on the card a five versus five elimination? You'd think with the amount of PPVs they have, they would just shove all the singles matches on one of them and keep tradition alive on Survivor Series.
Posted By: Theodore "T-Bag" Bagwell (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:27 PM
"How about another gimmick themed ppv? I know I can't wait for a PPV full of Coal Miner's Glove matches!
Posted By: vexed (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM"
Uhm, you do realize that Survivor Series IS a gimmick themed PPV ...
Posted By: STK (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:38 PM
LoL Vince is destroying his own company
Posted By: Guest#7309 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:38 PM
Seriously? Awful news. Survivor Series has died because WWE don't know how to build a damn ppv anymore. They dont build stars they just throw them at us. Oh and they seem to have forgot what a tag team is. In the 80s tag teams ruled. Same goes for the attitude era - TLC
vince hurry up and retire already! Fuck off!
Posted By: Noel Edmonds (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:46 PM
So the WWE wants every PPV to have a gimmick, right? But instead of using one with history, that has proven to work, and sticking with it, they are scrapping it for something that will likely be nowhere near as effective?
It seems silly to me. 4 vs. 4 matches, for example, would be an excellent way to promote feuds and such, not only in a unique PPV format, but as a bridge between PPVs where feuds sort of resolve themselves.
Posted By: Matt Eli (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 06:48 PM
Now I can make my triumphant return at WWE PRESENTS ROMAFEST!!! Where I take on all champions in separate matches.
Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 01:45 PM
Brilliant.
I'd kill to see you as 'Paulina' again, and fighting Michelle McCooltaker for the Women's title or was that the Diva title, or whatever crappy piece of tin she's holding.
Posted By: Jim Powers (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:05 PM
And that's just another reason why I don't watch wrestling anymore...Thanks God for MMA!
Posted By: Dean (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:16 PM
It's over
Posted By: Teddy (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:20 PM
at one point, WWF had enough tag teams for a 5x5 tag team survivor series that nearly stole the show...
Guess survivor series now joins tag teams and the dodo bird as being wished best of luck in their future endeavours.
Posted By: Guest#8665 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:23 PM
If anyone can name all of their PPVs at this point, God bless ya. With the exception of Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, and Summerslam, I have no clue wtf they're calling anything anymore. I saw a TLC dvd at Walmart the other day and thought they put out another one of these...and then realized it was the PPV from a few months ago after I looked at the box. Yeah, Vince, helluva job.
Posted By: MM (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:24 PM
Just like ECW, the PPV concept was dead a long time ago. 2002 had no elimination tag matches, and a few have had one or two only, so no real breaking news here!
Oh my god! ECW is ending next Tuesday too...no it was gone in 2001.
Hate to break it to you all, but the WWE is a business, and the Survivor Series was not cutting it.
Think of a TV company having a long standing show for years and years, but with its numbers dipping, eventually you have to pull the plug. Only an ignorant person would do different.
Posted By: Level Headed Person (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:25 PM
Beginning of the end, first was John cena stop rapping, then was changing names of PPV(which were fine the way they were for shits sake), now just getting rid of a traditional ppv?? What a dump out of my ass that decision was!
Posted By: Guest#1276 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:28 PM
The next survivor series marks the 20th anniversary of the undertaker's debut. bad timing to do this in my opinion
Posted By: Hercules Strongs (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:33 PM
I've gotta call bullsh*# on this one. You don't tear down the house bacause there's a leaky pipe. SS needed a spruce up, not a tear down!
There's lots of ways they could have freshened up SS. I'm just spitballin here so don't be too crital...
(1)- A WarGames match either 4on4 or 5on5 captained by the respective world champions. (2)- A "traditional" match captained by the secondary champions. These matches would NOT be brand exclusive. It would be more interesting if anyone could join any team they choose. (3)- A 4on4 elimination match with the unified tag straps on the line. The kicker is that the teammates of whoever the champs are get a guaranteed title shot at the next ppv. So for example it would be the champs DX against the challengers Legacy. Each choose a team as partners and the teammates of the winners get the title shot. (4) Fill in the blank! A ladies match, a battle royal of some kind or numerous other Ideas with a survial theme. The WWE is hell bent on themed ppvs, so why dump a big 4 with such built in theme possibility and name recognition? Yeah, idk either.
These ideas plus some interesting, well built filler matches(if there's time) could really inject some life into the show and that was just off the top of my head. Imagine what the, "creative" team could do if they actually bothered to be creative, rather than relying on dopey internet polls for ideas.
Posted By: gbh1978 (Registered) on February 11, 2010 at 07:34 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Survivor Series is a good name for a War Games PPV.
Posted By: Logic (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:36 PM
MAYBE your loyal consumer base LIKES Survivor Series, Vince. MAYBE we have a sense of familiarity with that name. MAYBE, doing this will piss of your loyal fan base, and the ones you're trying to bring in STILL WON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!! What's next? You gonna rebrand WrestleMania, while you're at it? Stop re-inventing the fuckin wheel, Vince. Not everything has to have a damn gimmick.
Posted By: the Mad Redneck (Registered) on February 11, 2010 at 01:03 PM
That.
Posted By: Yup. (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:47 PM
"Another nail in the coffin for my interest in wrestling."
If THIS is a nail in the coffin, your interest in wrestling should commit suicide and get it over with. This is nothing to be so damn melodramatic about.
Posted By: Guest#3905 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:48 PM
I'm taking Survivor Series' place. It was about time that oldtimer retired anyways.
Posted By: WarGames (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:51 PM
Is this an April Fools. Oh it's only February, so I guess it's Vince making another stupid move and ruining another great event in his move to make wrestling as bland as possible with the same stuff happening every week.
The proper Survior Series where they only had the elimination matches were amongest my favourite ever PPVs, and I've long wanted them to return to that format, but now no chance. It's just plain sucks.
Posted By: Axe (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:51 PM
I always like the Survivor Series but it hasn't been "Survivor Series" in many years because rarely do they have original Survivor Series matches and if they do it's maybe one on the card. Oh well, bye to another PPV I like for some crap I don't!
Posted By: Basil (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 07:54 PM
WWE D-Generation X go over whoever they face.
Posted By: Guest#1238 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 08:15 PM
WWE Survivor Series becomes WWE Survivor, where Miz gets left in the Jungle.
Posted By: Guest#5805 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 08:16 PM
After 26 years I think it's time to lay the concept of Wrestlemania to rest. The problem is that it detracts from our 12 other PPV's. I'd rather have the WWE Universe buy all PPV's equally so my shares options pay out more. Also the problem of having no-one bar Triple H and John Cena as the main draws for the super show is a problem. Finally I want to watch the Undertaker job on PPV in late March-early April. I'm a dick but you can kiss my ass.
Posted By: Vinnie Mac (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 08:17 PM
Yes, as a traditionalist, this sucks, but I can honestly say I haven't given WWE money for a Survivor Series since I purchased the 2003 DVD. Other than that I ordered the 1996 PPV and...that's about it. The "WWE Universe" just isn't interested in five-on-five elimination matches and Vince would be a fool to keep it around simply cos it's always been around.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM
_______________________________________
Maybe if the Survivor Series actually featured Survivor Series matches, people would care.
Posted By: rich (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 08:35 PM
Who gives a shit? When was the last time any of you ordered a WWE PPV? Wrestlemania 20 for me...I've ordered 2 TNA PPVs since then, for whatever that's worth.
Posted By: Guest#8726 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 08:40 PM
So much for the Big 4..
Posted By: Leon (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 08:53 PM
Fuck you Vince. You're killing off everything that was great about wrestling.
What, is the idea of an all-Signapore cane PPV with tacky gimmick matches too lucrative an idea to pass up?
Posted By: what? (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 09:25 PM
Thats just stupid come on now why? Who has gotten in their head about needing to rename all the ppvs? Whats the reason?
Posted By: Guest#0757 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 09:39 PM
Good Bye Survivor Series, hello War Games.
Posted By: EZMark (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 09:56 PM
Damnit, and here I was feeling stoked for Wargames... I don't want to lose Survivor Series for it!
Also, it seems kind of silly to kill one team concept in favor of another team concept.
Posted By: HeartBurnKid (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:02 PM
What they should have done is tied Survivor Series to the Royal Rumble by having the matches made as qualifying matches for the Rumble. Whoever survives gets into the Rumble guaranteed. They could use the PPV in between to have the "survivors" face off somehow to get the number 30 spot. That way it gives the Survivor Series matches meaning and gives some ready matches for the PPV in between Survivor Series and the Rumble. It also shows how valuable the wrestlers see the Rumble as an opportunity to get a title shot/main event Wrestlemania. If guys "screw" each other along the way it also creates feuds.
Posted By: Guest (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:02 PM
A bunch of whiners in here don't like change. The Survivor Series PPV was DOWN 28% in buys, all the gimmick-named PPVs went UP. Vince is absolutely making the correct decision to end what isn't making his company money.
He's obligated to promote shows that make his company money. He's not obligated to uphold the childhood nostalgia of a bunch of IWC purists who will pirate a feed of the show anyway.
Also, who loving CARES what the show is called? There will still be a November PPV, there will still be wrestling to watch.
Posted By: Guest#4379 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 03:33 PM
You're the load that your mother should have swallowed. Until you stop coming up with your fake numbers and blaming the IWC for all the misery in your life that you seem to do in every topic (btw, YOU are part of that IWC yourself. Feel all dirty now?) - keep your ignorance to yourself and try learning a little bit about business and realize that in order to do good business, you have to cater to what people want. You don't change an obviously successful format just for the sake of "a fresh start". The gimmick PPV may have seemed like a good idea at first, but by next year, people will become bored of it because it will have been done to death and obviously people like you can't comprehend that too much of a good thing is not a good thing at all until you become sick of it and beg for more change.
It's amusing how you ridicule the basement-dwelling purists, but being a McMahon drone doesn't make you any better - you're just slightly more annoying and probably live in a bigger basement. Now that's just sad.
Posted By: Jack Bauer (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:18 PM
We see Survivor Series forty times a year for free; why would I want to pay for it?
Posted By: Michael921 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:03 PM
And therein lies the problem, my dear Watson.
Too much available on free television, when such material should be reserved strictly for Pay Per View.
That is the downfall of the WWE and it is mostly due to it's current audience, which may or may not mostly consist of people that suffer from attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder.
They expect far too much in a short period of time. Why do you think jobbers are mostly a thing of the past? Because the fans ... or rather the WWE Universe, if you prefer... do not have the patience to wait for the big Pay Per View match.
Posted By: Sherlock Holmes (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM
I think doing the Smackdown after Thanksgiving as the "Survivor Series" event could be fun. They have the roster size to do the 5 vs. 5 (or even 4 vs. 4) with both rosters.
It would make great TV.
Posted By: Jimmy (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM
And it's buyrate was terrible. That matters more than your smarkish opinion.
Posted By: Guest#9598 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 04:59 PM
Do the world a favor and leave your parents' basement so we can all laugh at you. Pathetic sheep.
Posted By: Gary Soneji (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:35 PM
Whatever you say Vince, that is one fewer ppv purchase from me per year. I will never buy an Elimination Chamber PPV or TLC ppv and it isn't because I'm a purist, it is because I don't like having a gimmick match just because it may sell a few ppvs.
Want to stay relevent vince? Make a Hell in a Cell match or elimination chamber mean something,changing the name of the ppv doesn't automatically make it profitable.
Posted By: Vince Russo (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Maybe they could try booking the Survivor Series so that the match is relevant enough to main event every year, like they did to cap off the Invasion, rather than making the titular gimmick consist of a random assortment of mid-feuds. That would require faith in the creative staff and a dependence on quality booking, so of course they should scrap it and replace the Survivor Series with main-eventers fighting each other in street clothes. Bells and whistles always trumps quality storytelling in the WWE universe.
Posted By: Schmidty (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:38 PM
Did it ever occur to you that the buyrates are low because the product as a whole simply sucks?
Bring on your petty "smark" and "iwc" insults, you pitiful virgin Nancy-Boys.
Posted By: Gary Soneji (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM
WWE should move forward and bring in a six sided wrestling ring!!!!
Posted By: Jimmy Jay (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Well maybe if all you bitching smarks had actually BOUGHT THE SHOW, it would still be around.
Thanks for nothing, shit heads.
Posted By: Guest#0787 (Guest) on February 11, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Good, let them get rid of it. All that title "Survivor Series" did was remind people that they weren't doing the classic shows like they did 1987-1997'ish. I'll wait to see what they have instead of Survivor Series
Posted By: Guest#9633 (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 12:28 AM
WWE: 5-on-5 Elimination Tag Team Match
ORDER NOW ON PPV
Posted By: Guest#6606 (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 12:35 AM
Jack Bauer -
Made up numbers? Here, let me provide a link to you, since you seem incapable of scrolling down two inches to see the article about WWE's figures for the quarter.
Read that part about Survivor Series 2009 drawing 235,000 buys, down from 319,000 in 2008? That'd be a significant drop of 26%, but don't let things like facts get in the way of you calling some ignorant.
And yeah, I get it. Posting online about wrestling means I'm technically IWC, a clever observation that no one else has ever come up with. However, there's the part of the IWC that understands things like business, money, and why things are done the way they are, and then there's the part of the IWC that gets all melodramatic and bent out of shape because a PPV they weren't going to buy anyway is now going to be named something else.
Maybe you should take a break from watching wrestling for a while. You seem to have some serious anger issues.
Posted By: Guest#0538 (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 12:51 AM
I CALL BULLSHIT!
Posted By: The Coach (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 01:05 AM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat!?!?!? Get rid of the Survivor Series name, but keep coming up with BRILLIANT pay per view names like Elimination Chamber, TLC, and Hell in a Cell. I haven't had any interest in buying those ppvs based on match names, but I have always watched the Survivor Series. Oh well. So much for the tradition that has been successful throughout the years. Let's see if I buy their new concept or not. Next WrestleMania will be changed to EntertainaMania. Yay!
Posted By: Oh Well. (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 01:06 AM
Bullshit.
They just need to have Survivor Series matches with real teams, not just shackle 5 singles fueds together.
This stinks. What's next? Rename Wrestlemania Entertainment-mania?
Posted By: Quimby (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 03:51 AM
It is a sad sad day for Pro Wrestling
Posted By: Woz8005 (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 06:32 AM
So... we're ignoring low buyrates and market research?
I would tend to believe Vince is not...
Posted By: J. Alexander Mitchell (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 08:15 AM
"Yeah, God knows I never fucking ordered one of those things back in the glory days of the PPV with any knowledge of what was going to happen.
Oh, wait. That's right. The storylines that constituted the teams were built steadily over FOUR FUCKING MONTHS prior to the PPV itself. I can see where something as arduous as actually crafting good angles would be an impossibility, better to shitcan the whole format.
Idiots."
I read every single comment on here and this was, BY FAR, the one I agreed with the most. I honestly thought I was the only one who remembered how they used to build angles for months.
Posted By: YouStayClassy (Guest) on February 12, 2010 at 08:16 AM
This is shit, WTF is he doing, another thing WTF is this shit there doin with that kiddies channel, is he trying 2 make it aimed towrds little kiddies, theres no blood amynore, why do they still bleep out ass.
Posted By: Paul Nagle (Guest) on March 18, 2010 at 02:27 PM
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