RAW vs. Impact Quarter Hour Ratings Breakdown
Posted by Ashish on 03.09.2010
Which segments did well and which bombed? Find out inside...
RAW last night did a 3.42 rating off hours of 3.26 and 3.56. Impact did a .99 rating off hours of 1.01 and .96. Below are more details from the quarter hour ratings.
* Impact opened with a .99 for the Hulk Hogan vs. Abyss vs. Ric Flair & AJ Styles match.
* RAW's lowest segment was their second quarter hour which did a 3.15 (and the fourth quarter hour which also did a 3.15). The second quarter hour featured the Divas match and Criss Angel backstage.
* RAW's fourth quarter hour segment, which also did a 3.15 rating, featured Randy Orton vs. Legacy handicap tag match.
* Impact's fourth and fifth quarter hours were their highest rated with each doing a 1.07. The fourth quarter hour segment featured Sting vs. RVD and the proceeding Sting/Hogan confrontation while the fifth quarter hour segment featured the Beautiful People's win and celebration as well as the Nash/Hall/Waltman segment.
* RAW's sixth quarter hour did a 3.56 rating. The segment featured the end of Triple H and Sheamus's confrontation, Santino backstage, and the very beginning of the Money in the Bank qualifying match.
* Impact's sixth quarter hour declined slightly from the 1.07 the previous segment drew.
* RAW peaked with a 3.60 for their eighth quarter hour, featuring plugs for Steve Austin on RAW next week as well as the start of Vince McMahon vs. John Cena.
* Impact's rating saw a huge drop for the eighth quarter hour, falling from a roughly 1.05 all the way down to a .76. The segment featured Hulk Hogan backstage segments and the start of Hogan & Abyss vs. Flair & Styles.
* RAW's overrun did a 3.98 rating for the conclusion of McMahon vs. Cena and Batista's involvement.
* Impact's overrun did a 1.01 rating for the conclusion of Hogan & Abyss vs. Flair & AJ Styles. One positive for TNA is that Impact's rating did go up from a .76 in the eighth quarter hour to a 1.01 for the overrun.
No one expected TNA to win shit... shouldn't we just be happy that many people watched pro wrestling last night? I think that's kind of a good sign
Posted By: Haku (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:32 PM
So assuming that one show affects the other, the big killer for TNA was Vince vs Cena...
And with that said, wrestling fans are stupid.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Raw's overrun did nearly four times the rating that iMpact's overrun did? As Axl Rose would say, "YOWZA!"
Posted By: Anonymous (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Bubba =/= Ratings?
Posted By: DannyJay (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:44 PM
I've read in other reports that the shitty 8th quarter-hour for TNA also had the Jarrett-Beer Money mess.
Posted By: SeatsPro (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:45 PM
That proves it, John Cena > Hulk Hogan
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:48 PM
* Impact's fourth and fifth quarter hours were their highest rated with each doing a 1.07. The fourth quarter hour segment featured Sting vs. RVD and the proceeding Sting/Hogan confrontation while the fifth quarter hour segment featured the Beautiful People's win and celebration as well as the Nash/Hall/Waltman segment.
Which proves once again that the Knockouts are the biggest draws.
Posted By: Ted (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:50 PM
wow TNA got killed
Posted By: Guest#0963 (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:51 PM
Santino = Ratings
Posted By: AL (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:55 PM
I thought the ratings went up when Hogan was on the screen???
Posted By: Where's Joe? (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:56 PM
I think this means that people don't want to see Orton vs Legacy. I think they'd rather just see Orton RKO the crap out of everyone.
Posted By: Guest#8075 (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:03 PM
Ow my brain.
Posted By: The Weesel (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:12 PM
A .99?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?!?! TNA fucking sucks a cock.
Posted By: QQ (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:15 PM
X Division Title (1.07), RVD (1.07), Eric Young going over Waltman (1.03); Hogan/Flair (0.99), Hogan Flair (0.76)
The people have spoken
Posted By: Guest#5284 (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:18 PM
RVD makes money
Posted By: Guest#3170 (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Remember when Hogan bashed the WWE for the Vince vs Cena main event? Well guess what Hogan, main event kicked your ass. That will teach you to get cocky.
Posted By: Guest#6641 (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:33 PM
Bubba =/= Ratings?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who stopped watching Impact when Bubba came back. He equals rating all right Minus ratings.
Posted By: Ron (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:36 PM
"I think they'd rather just see Orton RKO the crap out of everyone.
Posted By: Guest#8075 (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:03 PM"
So would I. Starting with Criss Angel!
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 11:43 PM
Pac and Hall = Ratings
Posted By: Hey Yo! (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:06 AM
You know what's laughable here ? It's seeing WWE Superstars aka Vince's D Show doing the EXACT SAME NUMBER on a Thrusday Night TAPED and on a channel MANY People don't get than TNA on Spike TV LIVE A Monday Night.
Even more funny is how Superstars is consistently more entertaining and fun to watch than Impact each week.
No really keep make me laughing out loud Bischoff, Russo, Hogan and Carter.
The WWE did an average number by its own standards and totally mauled Impact IMO.
A 64 years old CHAIRMAN and a bunch of jobbers vs Superman Cena OWNED TNA "main event".
HOW IRONIC !
TNA = YES WE FAIL HARD !
Posted By: WWE >>> TNA (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:12 AM
need more Bubba
Posted By: Guest#7474 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:13 AM
Hopefully this means Hogan stays the hell out of the ring. No one wants to see him and flair in the ring anymore.
Posted By: August (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM
i agree with the rkoing everyone, orton should rko each host at the beginning of the show outta nowhere, so we don't have to suffer through the childish host skits..
Posted By: steve (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:39 AM
Damn, I just came up with the perfect analogy for WWE and TNA.
Both WWE and TNA are like public toilet seats.
WWE has been sanitized for your protection: safe, but a little boring.
TNA is a seat with no ass-gaskets. Sure, it's exciting, but you'll probably catch something, so it just isn't worth it.
Either way, they're both full of shit, and need to be flushed.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Numbers don't lie. Defense rests.
Posted By: Read (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:22 AM
Raw usually does a 3.7. TNA usually does...this. Both shows were god awful. The crap Cena match and horrific Hogan match. Abyss screaming is channel changing.
Posted By: Morgan Fisher (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:23 AM
Ok TNA now be a good little promotion and head back to Thursdays like a good little promotion. Monday nights are for Grown ups...you are far too young to play on the Monday Night Playground
Posted By: TheRev (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:24 AM
It sucks that TNA didn't do better, because they finally got it right. RAW was very predictable, and no surprises were offered, while TNA offered me plenty of surprises as a wrestling fan. Bottom line is, I found WWe boring since they went to PG, but at least we have options now as wrestling fans. If we were smart, we would follow Jim Cornette and ROH!
Posted By: outsdr (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 02:02 AM
Anyone else seeing WCW vs. WWE again?
Posted By: Brickheart (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 02:47 AM
i want to like TNA. they have talent and the benefit of being 'alternative' (if they want to be). sadly, clusterfuck tv is really hard to sit through and there are enough other channels, on demand, dvr, dvd options that i would rather watch most anything else (not necessarily wrestling)
Posted By: Guest#1511 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 03:08 AM
That sounds about right, Jimbob Jones.
Posted By: Magnum TOKYO, JP (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 03:24 AM
Ratings don't mean a thing, you WWE-loving homos. Everyone knows who this exchange.
Posted By: TheRev (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 03:24 AM
So, this means TNA made absolutely no discernible change in ratings than they would have if they had just done a normal show, and not the overblown *star studded* clusterfuck that they put on?
I don't think it's a cause for concern yet, but it is definitely.. curious.
Posted By: Guest#4605 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 03:47 AM
Only 25% of American citizens participate in the Nielsen TV ratings system.
Therefore RAW & iMPACT! may have drawn considerably larger or less audiences due to the fact the remaining 75% of the population are not taking part in the survey.
Its something I have always thought about going back to the original Monday night wars.
Posted By: Mr. Roo (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 04:03 AM
Raw does not usually do a 3.7.
Posted By: Guest#5174 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 04:04 AM
"RAW's lowest segment was their second quarter hour which did a 3.15..featured the Divas match"
God i hope wwe brings back bra & panties matches. watching hot chicks trying to "wrestle" every week is boring & pointless, at least from a straight dudes perspective.
Posted By: Guest#3514 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 04:26 AM
Most people want TNA to do well in this 'war' for the sake of competition. I want them to fail because I'd rather another 5 years of monopoly than see TNA in its current shape be the one to succeed. And looking at this, it won't.
Sad to think that TNA, while no major threat to WWE, nonetheless at its most solid and enjoyable condition in THREE YEARS just months, weeks before the arrival of Hogan and Bischoff.
Posted By: Guest#1230 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 05:11 AM
Pac and Hall = Ratings
Posted By: Hey Yo! (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:06 AM
---
They were in the same quarter as the Beatiful People, so they managed to profit from TBP's viewers.
Posted By: Guest#2883 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 05:30 AM
So, after looking at the way the numbers came about, Hulk Hogan should no longer be featured in segments for TNA.
The women are still solid draws for the company, people still want to see folks like Sting and RVD, somewhat older performers who can still work quality matches, and the audience isn't turned off by longer matches.
If there were ever a case to prove that featuring Hogan, nowadays, doesn't work, this was that case. The TNA audience cannot "suspend belief" long enough to accept Hogan as a guy who is a credible wrestling threat, and that's not going to change.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 05:31 AM
The ratings were disappointing for both companies. Maybe next week they should try to put on a wrestling show, with actual wrestling on it!
Posted By: Guest#6616 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 05:32 AM
vince is worried about tna the same way coke is worried about mr.pibb.
Posted By: jd (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 06:08 AM
The TNA overrun increase means NOTHING. It just means people waiting for the next show to start managed to sit through 5 extra minutes of garbage called Impact.
Posted By: Eric (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 06:09 AM
I've been a wrestling fan for over 25
years and am I to understand that todays wrestling fan would rather see a 64 yr. old Vince Mcmahon wrestle than they would a 56 yr. old Hulk Hogan?
I don't want to see either one of them in the ring! And what I really don't understand is why somebody would want to pay damn good money to watch Vince wrestle at Wrestlemania!
Posted By: Guest#2711 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 06:54 AM
I DVR'd both to watch later. These make no difference to me. It's not like it's 1998 and I'm flipping back and forth.
Posted By: MAROON II (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 07:13 AM
It's hilarious that the IWC hates that the 50 year olds are running TNA. And yet, when the 50 year olds were on, TNA got their highest ratings.
Posted By: Comment Board Poster (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 07:26 AM
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned this. But the 8th quarter hour of Impact also had that freakin' promo/ad for FF XIII and GTTV. I'm a video game player, but that wasn't the reason I was tuned into Spike Monday night. I switched over to RAW to catch Cena/McMahon. I'm sure the difference in ratings explains that. I switched back to see the end of Hogan/Abyss vs Flair/Styles.
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 07:39 AM
Hmm what this showed more than anything is that fans don't wanna see Hogan wrestling in the ring. He is good as the figure head/boss on the mic. People barely still wanna see Flair in the ring but atleast he can still move. Hogan did interview after interview and basically told everyone of his multiple surgeries, injuries and hinderances. Sure he looks in great shape but, he can't wrestle and no one wanted to see him wrestle. His best contribution to TNA is his on air/on the mic character not his in ring/wrestling character
Posted By: Guest#0811 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 08:03 AM
hilarious that more wrestling fans wud rather watch vince v cena, even when neither can actually wrestle. wrestling fans certainly are a strange breed.
Posted By: former fan (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 08:06 AM
So in conclusion, everyone who usuually watches TNA watched TNA and everyone who usually watches RAW watched RAW.
That right there is groundbreaking developments.
As a side, I wonder how many old WCW fans tuned in specifically to see Sting batter Hogan?
Posted By: caboose (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 08:39 AM
Not everyone gets spike so they watch online. Tna will slowly rise.
Posted By: jobber (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 09:01 AM
WWE wasn't even trying to compete and still whopped TNA badly.
Posted By: Guest#1706 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 09:29 AM
all that means is the same peopel tat watch RAW every week simply didnt flip over to TNA long enough to register. I wouldnt doubt thatHogan and Brooke lost everyone that was just stupid and a plug to get her back on TV somehow. Totally pointless. I know they are trying to tell a story, but come on. Akin to when cena's dad was beat up whenever he showed up to the show. If you want to tell a story, have Abuss go mental and kidnap Brooke and then have a hogan abyss fued and have abuyss crippple hogan for life. That might bean exit strategy if Hogan doesnt turn this around in a few months and te ratings drop and they start losing money (beause it costs more money to do a live show).
But I like what TNA is doing, it isnt all that bad, they just try to put too much into a two hour show, simply because they have too much talent now for one show a week.
uBut ratings are rather meaningless, if anything we should look at how much both shows dropped since Jan and go from there. They had enough cross over that night to add up to like a 5.4, this past Monday they added up to a 4.4, a full point drop combined is pretty huge loss. Only explanation is that peopel that had the box that used to watch wrestling dont have the box anymore. Because there really isnt anything on Mondays except American idol that would draw people away in that hige a number, and one would expect that with their target demographic that would effect RAW much worse than TNA.
While I am not too big on ratings I did expecta little higher, like a 1.2-1.3 range. But since it seems like fewer peopel watched overal then 1.0 ist horrid. Depsnds on next week. All the leaks and releases that the internet crowd knew about were not known by the average fan probably, so this next week, now that everyone knows who is in TNA now and what they are doing will tell the tail. Going against Austin will be a rough road but if TNA gets a better rating then that will be something positive for sure.
But as I have said in the past I am not sure if ratings are the end all be all of all this anyway. It all comes down to profits, if TNA does .5s and makes more money than they used to then that will be a 'win' for them.
But if you want to look at the raw (no pun) numbers then RAW lost a 10% of their audience, going from 3.7 to a 3.4; and TNA gained almost the same % number going from a .9 to a 1.0. So a decent spin doctor could claim that TNA gained that 10% (11 actually) from the RAw audience directly. But since they have been doing 1.3's and 1.4s then it is sort of lost rhetoric.
I just think that most of the ratings issues have to do either with American Idol or redistribution of both the boxes and Nielson audience members more than anything else.
Posted By: Rich (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM
"Numbers don't lie. Defense rests."
And, what exactly were the defense's arguments?
"The shows will do pretty much the same ratings they always do?"
You would suck as a lawyer.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 10:39 AM
TNA needs to go back to the drawing board...a .76 8th hour?? REALLY?
Whatever was on Food Network probably beat TNA with that rating....jeesh. Even with RVD and Sting a 1.07?
Less than your normal thursday rating, probably about what NXT gets, which is all rookies nobody has ever heard of.
THIS is something to be proud of, and THIS is what the TNA marks are crowing about....they must be kidding.
Posted By: go away (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM
I've seen this comment pop up a lot from the TNA diehards. It goes something like this: "Well, it took Nitro a long time to find its audience!"
Learn your wrestling history. Nitro actually beat Raw with its debut show, and both programs traded victories until the nWo caught fire. While Nitro added fans as the casuals started following pro wrestling, the show had its audience from day one.
So does Impact. Sadly for them, it appears that audience is about a million people or so. But when you book RVD like a chump and don't advertise Jeff Hardy, it's kind of hard for my to sympathize with you.
Posted By: Jay Evans (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM
hahahahaha. Orton =/= Draw.
Turn him face again, let's put the e-tard mantra ("it isn't X=Pac heat") to the test.
...again.
Posted By: Guest#1209 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:15 PM
TNA got stomped /// despite all of Bischoff's talk and the marketing and the first five minutes ... they got whomped.
Posted By: Guest#4797 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Bubba = Ratings death; and channel changing to prevent forced sodomy of the viewers' eyes, ears, and intellect
Posted By: btlsblows (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:19 PM
It feels good.
It feels good to have the years of bashing the low RAW rating finally pay off.
"Millions of wrestling fans turned off their TVs 10 years ago, and more every year" we said.
"Well, a 3.4 in today's rating is like a 4.2 in 2000 ratings," they said.
"The only people who watch WWE will watch it every week, no matter how bad it gets," we chided.
"The only fans that left in the first place weren't 'real' fans, they just watched wrestling because it was trendy," they droned on, ad nauseum.
Well, if nothing else comes out of MNWII then that's OK... we've got proof positive that at least a million wrestling fans are actively NOT watching WWE.
Maybe if it got dramatically better...
Posted By: elgrannoche (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Impact held its own against Raw. Good start. Now build on it.
Posted By: J-Dizzle (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Only 25% of American citizens participate in the Nielsen TV ratings system.
Therefore RAW & iMPACT! may have drawn considerably larger or less audiences due to the fact the remaining 75% of the population are not taking part in the survey.
Its something I have always thought about going back to the original Monday night wars.
Posted By: Mr. Roo (Guest)
A sample size of 25% of a given population is HUGE. When talking about 300+ million people, thats about 10x larger than it needs to be to be relevant.
Posted By: Guest#2460 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:29 PM
Damn, I just came up with the perfect analogy for WWE and TNA.
Both WWE and TNA are like public toilet seats.
WWE has been sanitized for your protection: safe, but a little boring.
TNA is a seat with no ass-gaskets. Sure, it's exciting, but you'll probably catch something, so it just isn't worth it.
Either way, they're both full of shit, and need to be flushed.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Analogies for Failure 101 taught by Professor Jimbob Jones. Can I sign up for your class in the summer?
Posted By: Sarcasm Smith (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:31 PM
That proves it, John Cena > Hulk Hogan
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on March 09, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Well, Bill, let's take it one step further then:
Rock > Cena > Hogan
It's only logical, since the Rock (and Foley) were in the highest rated Monday night segment OF ALL TIME, and Foley hasn't managed to put up numbers anywhere near that on his own. Plus, the Rock's been in real movies, as opposed to Mr. Nanny or the Marine or the Marine in New Orleans...I mean, 12 Rounds.
Posted By: Wyatt Beougher (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:36 PM
Whatever anybody thinks about this weeks ratings, just imagine the carnage next week when WWE pulls out Stone Cold and a bunch of Wrestlemania rematches.They could well do 4 times the Impact rating. Ouch.
Posted By: Baron Skinny (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 01:59 PM
tho i'm not a big tna fan,fucc ratings who cares about that shit we ain't getting paid for it,all that matters is we get to see some wrestling, damn eric bishoff fucc'd up the way we watch wrestling yell
Posted By: box (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 04:43 PM
So if TNA didn't have a over run there rating would be even more horse shit.
Posted By: Guest#5986 (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 04:43 PM
All you TNA idiots claiming that TNA are going to bring down WWE.... Dixie Carter has no clue how to run a wresting promotion and Hogan and Russo damn sure dont....
You go and make Abyss Evad Sullivan 2010 and have a bunch of washed up wrestlers who atleast 15 years passed there twilight of there career and think your gonna beat WWE, They run the dumbest show i ever seen, The abyss junk is WCW bad.. They took a almost credible monster and made him a joke... They took a Talented young Wrestler like AJ styles and made him in to lil natch... They took Samoa Joe, who was one of the best in ring talent in america at one time and turned him in to a unmotivated Umanga wanna be......
They took a promotion that was different and fun towatch and a good way to get away from the WWE once in awhile and turned it in to pure crap.....
I dont know how you defend that trash, its so easy to book TNA and make it in to a respectable number 2 promotion..... Im sure if Hogan, Flair, Nasty Boys and the rest of the high price losers they hired
Posted By: HAHAHA (Guest) on March 10, 2010 at 07:21 PM
Looks like the Flair match was a draw.
Posted By: SJay (Registered) on March 10, 2010 at 08:34 PM
