UPDATEDx2: R Truth OK After Botched Spot, Heat On Miz
Posted by Ashish on 02.07.2012
WWE not happy with Miz after mistake...
UPDATE x2: According to Pwinsider.com, Triple H loudly disciplined Miz in front of the locker room as soon as he returned to the back following the six pack challenge match.
According to PWTorch, Miz has been on a losing streak in 2012 because he has become the scapegoat for the "lower-than-expected" Survivor Series PPV buyrate.
UPDATE: WWE.com has an article up on R Truth, noting that he avoided major injury last night. The article also stated that "WWE officials do not believe any injuries sustained from the fall will keep R-Truth out of action."
ORIGINAL: R Truth was OK following RAW. He was checked out by WWE's medical personnel after being pulled by WWE during RAW when he smacked the back of his head on the mats outside the ring during a dive that missed Miz. Truth is said to be very sore, but OK.
Miz was being blamed for the botched spot and he had some heat on him from WWE management, including Triple H, after RAW ended.
Posted By: Little Jimmy (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:36 AM
Not good for Miz. First he caught flack for Survivor Series' low buyrate, now he screws up and almost hurts Truth. Not looking good for the Awesome One.
Posted By: Guest#8106 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:38 AM
Miz fucked up, but everyone does from time to time. Can't imagine this will do the guy any favors, though, considering he's supposedly already eating some shit for the Survivor Series main event failing, or some such stupidity. I'd imagine WWE were already looking for an excuse to keep de-pushing him, so now they've got it. Poor bastard.
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:39 AM
this site aint anti TNA. they are anti WWE. it shows with some of the stuff that gets posted. WWE is great.
Posted By: Guest#5096 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:40 AM
It was Little Jimmy's fault!
Posted By: Still Guest#8287 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:42 AM
An accident is an accident, but on a diving move like that, having someone to break your fall is critical. Glad he's okay and didn't suffer at least a concussion.
Posted By: Steve (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:42 AM
Which is WHY he will never get another run with the title and should go back to MTV or think about joining the WGTT in ROH. He would be semi-huge there.
Posted By: Guest#6410 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:44 AM
miz still in the title match tho.
Posted By: Guest#7474 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:48 AM
Between the heat over the low Survivor Series buyrate, and now his sidestepping of R-Truth only for Truth to "splat" on the outside of the ring, in a fairly short amount of time Miz seems like he's gone from the penthouse to the doghouse (and the outhouse doesn't seem far off at this rate).
Posted By: Nick M. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:48 AM
I actually like the Miz. He survived years as a jobber and will survive this, too.
Posted By: Guest#4985 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Stupid stupid stupid...
Posted By: Matthew M (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Damn, what a diff a year makes. It wasn't all Miz's fault btw. Truth overshot the spot, but yeah Miz gets part of this blame. But to blame him for SS? Give me a break
Posted By: Guest#7908 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:01 AM
This is coming at a horrible time after they blamed him for Survivor Series despite it completely not being his fault.
Posted By: Guest#1345 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:04 AM
it was a MIZtake alright.
Posted By: Guest#0904 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:06 AM
F the miz.
Posted By: Guest#2015 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:06 AM
Further proof that Miz is a terrible worker.
Posted By: Adam R (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:24 AM
miz has botched more than once in that match..
Posted By: Guest#7106 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:29 AM
Because I'm the MIZ and I'm AWEEFULLLLL
Posted By: The Miz (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:34 AM
In regards to the R-Truth thing, accidents happen in the ring and Miz was just a bit out of possition. What's sad about the Miz thing (if the heat he's taking is true in the first place) is that there is no way the Survivor Series buy rate is completely his fault. The problem, in fact all the problems with the Miz, lie with WWE management. First, the guy is absolutely awful in the ring! He has so few moves that he uses several of his trademarks several times in any given match, his finisher is horrible, and his facial expressions of anger and pain are the least convincing of anyone's on the entire roster including the crappiest diva. All of this could be forgivable if he was better than average on the mic. Miz can deliver a decent promo once in a while, but his stupid catch phrase of "really...really...really" is uninspiring and "I'm the Miz and I'm awesome" is one of the least creative and most vapid catch phases not just in the history of wrestling, but in the history of catch phrases. The one thing Miz has going for him is he's does obnoxious well. But when has obnoxious equaled threatening? The only reason his WWE Title reign worked is because to the average and hardcore fan alike, there was no way a guy with the talent of the Miz should have ever been WWE champion, making him easy to hate. Miz has no really business in the main event because he's never been, nor ever will be a believable threat to any of the top stars.
Posted By: John (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:38 AM
miz is a idiot. seriously.
Posted By: Guest#0052 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:42 AM
I watched it again. I see where the incident happened, but this didn't look like Miz screwed up. He was supposed to break R-Truth's fall, but it looks more like something thats inevitable to happen from time to time. The two just didn't connect, and R-Truth got hurt.
Posted By: DevilAdvocate (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:46 AM
That lil Jimmy shirt is knot. The best one since john Cena's pro wrestling 8bit shirt yell™
Posted By: box (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:47 AM
Why is Miz eating shit for the Survivor Series buy-rate??? I mean surely THE ROCK and Cena should be blamed for it.. as they were the key drawing points.
As for Miz botching... it happens unfortunately, everyone makes mistakes, he is hardly known for botching or being dangerous in the ring.
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:51 AM
HAHAHAHA miz gone messed up.
Posted By: Guest#4565 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Yeah, it's a guy's fault who spent years performing wrestling moves and not bullshit stuntman garbage that he didn't properly catch another 200lbs human being.
Top/middle rope dives/falls = #1 cause of injury in pro wrestling.
Posted By: Engel (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 03:13 AM
Everyone makes mistakes, it's not like he did this on purpose. WWE people need to learn to be more human and understanding.
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 03:46 AM
Miz fucked up, but everyone does from time to time. Can't imagine this will do the guy any favors, though, considering he's supposedly already eating some shit for the Survivor Series main event failing, or some such stupidity. I'd imagine WWE were already looking for an excuse to keep de-pushing him, so now they've got it. Poor bastard.
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:39 AM
I agree, seems obvious as hell they are trying to bury him.
Posted By: Guest#5517 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 03:48 AM
STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!
Posted By: Randy Orton (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:06 AM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
How is it the Miz fault Survivor Series didn't do well?Shouldn't the blame go to the top 3 stars of the PPV: Rock, Cena and to a lesser extent CM Punk?
Hell the show was sold on Enemies teaming together for one night only. Not watch the Miz lose to the Rock and Cena
Posted By: Guest#9260 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 05:47 AM
Hey Miz, better call someone in Japan for immediate future work. Your ship has sailed.
Posted By: Guest#3171 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 05:47 AM
But he's.....AWESOME!!!
Posted By: Coop (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 06:46 AM
I hope Miz doesn't get future endeavored, he's still making payments on that six-figure fine from a few months ago.
Posted By: Mr. Me (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 06:47 AM
I'm glad R-Truth is alright and what the fuck was wrong with The Miz. I just watched the botch spot on YouTube and Miz didn't even bother to break R-Truth's fall.
Posted By: Guest#7704 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:14 AM
I'm sure the Miz is a great guy and he works hard, but he just isn't very good and has little upside.
Posted By: poffo316 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:15 AM
Oh sure, R-Truth smokes weed and botches a spot, and the white guy gets blamed for it.
Affirmative Action folks.
Posted By: Guest#1152 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:36 AM
Summer and fall of Punk is more to blame for the low buy rates lately.
Doghouse is temporary.
Posted By: Guest#6056 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:38 AM
Oh sure blame the white guy. That's the proper thing to do, doesn't matter Truth jumped in the wrong direction you gotta keep whitey down.
Posted By: Guest#9454 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:40 AM
Anything that gets that over-hyped frog face off my TV is a good thing.
Posted By: Nicole (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:44 AM
Good, im glad....if there can be one example of how far wwe has fallen its the miz being anywhere near the main event. The guy just sucks, not in a 'i hate this guy' heel way just in a 'what am i doing with my life watching this?' kind of way!
Posted By: Guest#4440 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Sounds like an excuse to push Miz back down the card for a while.
Posted By: SpankyHamm (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:51 AM
Look to see if Cole buries him from here on out. That would be a sign that all is not well.
Posted By: epic50 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:59 AM
Miz = Sucks. Maybe WWE finally realizes that he isn't the right guy to push. Too bad it took them over a year to see that. He's terrible.
Posted By: S. Johnson (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:21 AM
We like to wish The Miz well in his future endeavors
Posted By: WWE (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:23 AM
I don't know the details of this "he's got heat for the Survivor Series buyrate" bs (it wasn't that the main event was booked such that either Cena or Rocky could beat Awesome Truth single-handedly, so the only drama came from wondering if those two would turn on each other, or that Truth's pending suspension limited the storytelling options even further) - but if I were Miz, I might move an inch to the right and watch the guy who f'd up my hot tag team by smoking synthetic weed go splat. I wouldn't be proud of it, but I might do it.
Posted By: s1rude (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:24 AM
It was totally Miz's fault
Posted By: Snitsky (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:26 AM
Accidents happen, but it sure looked like Miz powdered out when he saw Truth coming at him. Maybe that's why.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:35 AM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
The Camera man (Sim Snuka) was supposed to catch Taker, he didn't and was fired soon after.
Posted By: Guest#3023 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:37 AM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
Actually sim Snuka, who was out there as a camera man was supposed to break Taker's fall. And he was fired not long after. Get your facts straight
Posted By: Guest#8422 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:42 AM
That lil Jimmy shirt is knot.
Knot what?
Posted By: crich316 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:46 AM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
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No Junior, the "cameraman", who was actually Deuce from the former tag team champions was supposed to catch Taker at Mania 25 and wasn't in position, not Michaels.
Sorry your "Triple H and the WWE are hypocrites" crap you were trying to push there is complete and utter garbage.
All that said, I hope Miz isn't getting TOO much heat here - he doesn't have a reputation of being an unsafe worker, though I understand the guys being concerned since you do have to trust the other guys you're working with out there.
On another note, WWE really seems to be high on Truth here, that's interesting. Usually the front office wouldn't be that angry unless it was a main-event level guy that was possibly injured. Just plays into my theory that Truth is either winning Money in the Bank or getting pushed to one of the two big belts sometime in 2012 (if he avoids another Wellness Violation).
Posted By: Live from the 305 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:46 AM
Look to see if Cole buries him from here on out. That would be a sign that all is not well.
Posted By: epic50 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 07:59 AM
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Good call - Daniel Bryan's going to be fired any day now due to Cole's treatment of him.
"If Cole buries him from here on out" it means Miz is turning face (not an impossibility from what I've heard their long term plan was supposed to be for him), not a sign that "all is not well". If that was the case Cole would just stop talking about him at all.
Pay attention, kids.
Posted By: Live from the 305 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:57 AM
As far as Miz and SS match go, I thought the heat was because of the bad performance he managed to put on. If I am not mistaken, R-Truth did a decent job and Rock/Cena did their normal thing but the heat on Miz was because he kind of walked through the match. I know this has happened before (but I am trying to recall when) that a wrestler, knowing he is out there just for cannon fodder for the stars, basically does very little to make the other guys look good. The Miz went from main eventing Wrestlemania to be being asked to job to a guy who hasn't wrestled in 5 years. I can't blame him for the performance he put on.
On the other hand, if he did sidestep Truth last night, he is going to catch more than a little heat. I remember an interview with Kevin Nash talking about how a powerbomb is the most dangerous move in wrestling because the guy is totally at the mercy of the one giving the powerbomb. One false move and you can easily break the guys back or neck. That interview was 10-15 years ago. I would say the moves have got progressively more dangerous and the ability to trust the guy to catch you or to make the move look real is even more important.
I would expect Miz to be the first one eliminated at the Chamber match as his punishment.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:04 AM
Mistakes happen. It's fortunate no one was seriously hurt, but Miz WILL be punished to ensure it doesn't happen again. Shit happens.
Posted By: Banz (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:33 AM
It was a 'Miz'take!
Posted By: Guest#6903 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:36 AM
I knew that when I called Miz a Pussy for not catching Truth on twitter and he didn't block me, he knew he fucked up and I was right. haha Word.
Posted By: beerslayer (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:40 AM
Totally Miz' fault, you gotta be ready to adjust & catch a guy if it looks like hes gonna overshoot a dive like that. Been saying since 2008 Miz is nothing more than a 3rd rate Jericho wannabe that wouldn't have got a shot if he wasn't known for those shitty reality shows on MTV. His heat is X-Pac heat, send his ass to FCW til he learns how to work or better still just can him altogether & invest the time into someone with actual talent.
Posted By: Guest#6568 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:42 AM
yeah, survivor series was Miz' fault...what a crock of shit. Anything but the awful creative team, and overall direction of the company, right?
Posted By: BRAIN (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:55 AM
TNA wouldn't do this ! It's crazy WWE sucks, in TNA it wouldn't matter if he was doped up or, injured or just plain bleeding to death. TNA 4 LIEF
Posted By: Guest#7672 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:58 AM
this is what's wrong with wrestling today. i wanna go back to the 80's when they still kept the "secret" that wrestling is scripted. back in the 80's the miz would be coming out next week saying that he injured r-truth and put him out from the elimination chamber. but no...nowadays we all know it's scripted and no one is shy about it and we are reading articles how pissed off everyone is that the miz didn't CATCH r-truth properly. it's a travesty. how are we supposed to get into any feud between two wrestlers if it is common knowledge that they all hug backstage afterward? there are no secrets anymore. once upon a time we actually belived kane would be really really mad at john cena...
Posted By: quilombo (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Totally Miz' fault, you gotta be ready to adjust & catch a guy if it looks like hes gonna overshoot a dive like that. Been saying since 2008 Miz is nothing more than a 3rd rate Jericho wannabe that wouldn't have got a shot if he wasn't known for those shitty reality shows on MTV. His heat is X-Pac heat, send his ass to FCW til he learns how to work or better still just can him altogether & invest the time into someone with actual talent.
Posted By: Guest#6568 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:42 AM
OMG
Mr. Anonymous Internet Poster who has been claiming to have said [insert wrestler here] has sucked for almost 4 years and uses all the IWC buzzword. You are so inside and smart that we all look like buffoons because we didn't listen to you about [insert wreslter here].
You are so smart and inside. We all just wish that we were as smart and inside as you.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Little Jimmy caught him its all good!!!
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:56 AM
While Miz did completely miss catching R Truth, Truth jumped before Miz was ready. Miz turns around when Truth is already in the air, he did all he could to try to get there in time but still sell the hit. Sucks that it happened, but it's not like Miz stood there and watched Truth almost get hurt.... it was an accident
Posted By: 420 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:03 AM
miz sux but i doubt he will be fired.
Posted By: Guest#4495 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:08 AM
this is what's wrong with wrestling today. i wanna go back to the 80's when they still kept the "secret" that wrestling is scripted. back in the 80's the miz would be coming out next week saying that he injured r-truth and put him out from the elimination chamber. but no...nowadays we all know it's scripted and no one is shy about it and we are reading articles how pissed off everyone is that the miz didn't CATCH r-truth properly. it's a travesty. how are we supposed to get into any feud between two wrestlers if it is common knowledge that they all hug backstage afterward? there are no secrets anymore. once upon a time we actually belived kane would be really really mad at john cena...
Posted By: quilombo (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:27 AM
blame the wrestling news sites..
Posted By: Guest#8601 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:09 AM
"Miz gets part of this blame. "
Part? It dosent matter where Truth went, Miz was not there to catch him, it was careless and looks like he totally forgot his spot.
Its one thing to stand at the wrong place or not properly catch someone, that happens, but to be totally oblivious for a dangerous bump can end a wrestlers career.
Mike "The Miz" is nothing but a grade Z celeb playing the role of a wrestler, he isent indimidating and everything he does is and looks phoney.
Posted By: Nightz (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Its the WWE way. They can't blame Rock or Cena so they blame the undercard guy. Same as Mania 18 and they blamed Jericho because it couldnt POSSIBLY have been Triple H's fault that it didnt do as well as hoped. Simple management. They blame who they can. Sadly it works that way in any business.
Posted By: Guest#8821 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:11 AM
The Miz will be the first one eliminated in the Chamber match.
Posted By: Guest#4725 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:12 AM
The more I hear about WWE management's grievances with wrestlers, especially Triple-H, the more I think the company is a bunch of idiots. First, if the anger about SS buyrates is true, that might be stupidest thing ever. The main event was Cena/Rock teaming - their opponents almost didn't matter, and Miz/Truth just did whatever the writers gave them leading into it. To blame Miz is crazy - that's like scapegoating the fourth lead for a flop-movie - not blaming the advertising, script, concept, director, main stars. Survivor Series also had two title matchups. To blame Miz is just weird. If management is upset with his performance, not buy-rate, that's legit. If they mad about his safety with Truth - that's fine too. As for Miz's character, they had a great chance with him to be a permanant main-event player, but they kind of wasted it. WWE always seems to build people up to tear them down, then rinse-repeat. It's strange. I think they are nuts - if Cena/Orton/Punk were even injured at the same time, imagine the main events they would be forced to have. It'd be like starting over.
Posted By: Guest #1001 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Why does the IWC buy BS all the time. The Raw spot looks like it was Miz's fault and he might get punished for it but this supposed punishment for the buyrate just isn't happening. Since Survivor Series he has been booked to take out R-Truth and John Morrison, to be the ironman of the Rumble, to main event the Chamber, and has main evented quite a few Raws. Yep one heck of a punishment he has been getting.
Posted By: gpjunk (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:26 AM
If he's in the doghouse, why did they let him last the longest in the Rumble?
Posted By: Maria Thayer (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:26 AM
"but if I were Miz, I might move an inch to the right and watch the guy who f'd up my hot tag team by smoking synthetic weed go splat. I wouldn't be proud of it, but I might do it."
Posted By: s1rude (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:24 AM
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Y'know, maybe that's a stretch, but the more I think about it, harsher receipts have been given out in the past for a lot less...
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Triple H has got to be a horrible person to work for. Miz screwed up, but there's no need for Triple H to dress him down in front of the entire locker room. R-Truth has to be at least partially to blame for not lining up the dive correctly. It's like a car accident: if you're on the road you're at least partially at fault.
Posted By: John (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:32 AM
I never quite understood why he was pushed to the moon. Regardless of his talent, or lack thereof, I can't help but feel for the guy. He messed up, don't we all?
Also, the good note is that Miz held his own against a raging Triple H in the back and held his tongue. I don't know about the rest of you, but boss or not, who likes to be patronized? Especially in public?
The fact the Miz took the blame says a lot about the man, he is a professinoal. Not sure it says the same about Triple H throwing a tantrum, but I digress.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:39 AM
If it had been an IWC darling that fucked up like Bryan or Punk the reaction to this would be totally the opposite. It would be OH ITS OKAY ACCIDENTS HAPPEN
Posted By: Guest#5783 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:40 AM
this is what's wrong with wrestling today. i wanna go back to the 80's when they still kept the "secret" that wrestling is scripted. back in the 80's the miz would be coming out next week saying that he injured r-truth and put him out from the elimination chamber. but no...nowadays we all know it's scripted and no one is shy about it and we are reading articles how pissed off everyone is that the miz didn't CATCH r-truth properly. it's a travesty. how are we supposed to get into any feud between two wrestlers if it is common knowledge that they all hug backstage afterward? there are no secrets anymore. once upon a time we actually belived kane would be really really mad at john cena...
Posted By: quilombo (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:27 AM
This, holy shit this. The death of kayfabe in wrestling has hurt wrestling in so many ways it's not funny.
Posted By: Rick (UIW) (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:44 AM
I actually think the Miz can be entertaining when they were letting him. Way more so than Sheamus. But he screwed up bad last night. You catch the man, even if it blows the shot. His life is in your hands.
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:51 AM
WWE is great for telling Miz off. but i doubt miz will be fired.
Posted By: TNA sux (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:51 AM
I knew that when I called Miz a Pussy for not catching Truth on twitter and he didn't block me, he knew he fucked up and I was right. haha Word.
Posted By: beerslayer (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:40 AM
Yeah could be that OR he didn't even see or read your tweet.
Posted By: Guest#9565 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:52 AM
If the WWE's training program was better, they wouldn't have this problem. This is more the company's fault than Miz's, honestly.
Posted By: Guest#8658 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Also, why can't the IWC get together and collectively agree on giving HHH heat. I don't mean X-Pac, but real legitimate heat. Why doesn't he get booed like John cena by all of us smarks? Surely there is enough reason to not like the guy and how he got to the top. But if that's not reason enough, what about burrying the talent and constantly hogging the spotlight. Do we want another HHH-Taker match?
If that happens, I will not order the PPV. I will not throw away money to watch another Taker-HHH match. Enough is enough.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:09 PM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
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No Junior, the "cameraman", who was actually Deuce from the former tag team champions was supposed to catch Taker at Mania 25 and wasn't in position, not Michaels.
Sorry your "Triple H and the WWE are hypocrites" crap you were trying to push there is complete and utter garbage.
All that said, I hope Miz isn't getting TOO much heat here - he doesn't have a reputation of being an unsafe worker, though I understand the guys being concerned since you do have to trust the other guys you're working with out there.
On another note, WWE really seems to be high on Truth here, that's interesting. Usually the front office wouldn't be that angry unless it was a main-event level guy that was possibly injured. Just plays into my theory that Truth is either winning Money in the Bank or getting pushed to one of the two big belts sometime in 2012 (if he avoids another Wellness Violation).
Posted By: Live from the 305 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:46 AM
LMAO. Deuce IS Sim Snuka, and Deuce and Domino were never champions! Dumbarse.
Posted By: Guest#1770 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Triple H has got to be a horrible person to work for. Miz screwed up, but there's no need for Triple H to dress him down in front of the entire locker room.
Posted By: John (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:32 AM
That's true, HHH is really an awful leader. If this was a legit sport that was followed by the mainstream you'd have players "leaking" to the press how much they hated the guy, and how he can't lead anybody and the chemistry is bad.
Anyway allegedly there is supposed to be a "wrestler's court" which UT is in charge of. If HHH violated a wrestling rule, even he would get heat for that. I rather doubt it though, maybe that's just how it works in the wrestling world. Maybe it's okay to call people out in front of a locker room. Sometimes that is considered leadership or a style of it.
I never did it as a QB in HS and then later on as an Officer in the military, but some guys do it.
Posted By: Guest#4346 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Funny I remember seeing a young Triple HHH wrestle Perry Saturn at some fair show in Marshfield Mass 1993. during a spot after the match Perry Saturn tossed manager Johny Rodeo outside the ring towards HHH who proceded to botch the catch causing Johnnys head to bounce off the dirt as they were wrestling on a horsetrack. The poor kid got a pretty good concusion and an ambulance ride to boot.
I know HHH was pretty young back then but I didnt recall any public dressing down by Kowalski to trips in front of the public. Trust me with the lack of dressing rooms it would,ve been heard.
Just a reminder to the power hungry leader who got to where he was with as much moves outside the ring as inside.
Posted By: people Who Remember (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Lets start out with the fact the Survivor series card sucked. I ordered it for the main event tag and the Surviovr Series match. I was also interested in Morrion/Ziggler but knew Morrison had no chance since he was on his way out. The rest of the card sucked excluding Show's elbow drop. How about when The Royal Rumble fails will HHH's butt buddy Sheamus take the blame or will they admit that he is a see through competitor to real fans that realize his move set sucks or even realize that naming only 10 particpants in the Rumble and filling it with garabage wasnt a great idea. No this is HHH's WWE and that means Jericho will be blamed even though they fucked up his storyline and that speech he gave last nite would have been much more passionate and made more sense the RAW after a Rumble victory. I hate TNA but if Hennigan and Miz showed up together I would definitely watch instead of this shit.
Posted By: Radtke (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:22 PM
The reason Miz has heat is because he's a pussy...And it is TOTALLY deserved! This was NOT a random accident and this was NOT the first time he has sacrificed his partner in an attempt to save his own body.
He FREQUENTLY takes his bumps too early in an attempt to minimize the contact he takes. He FREQUENTLY avoids putting his own body in the way when catching guys for similar spots (A 6-Man Tag comes to mind, where he let the other guys make the catch, as he stood back and stuck a single arm out). And in this case, HE COMPLETELY DOVE OUT OF THE WAY, offering ONLY his left arm as protection for Truth's landing.
Rule #1 in Pro-Wrestling: Protect your partner at ALL times. Triple H ABSOULTE should have reamed him a new asshole. Hell, he should be fired...
Posted By: RobMinion (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Yes, they WERE indeed Champs. Dumbarse.
Posted By: Guest#2213 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:32 PM
How was the Miz the reason for the lower than expected buy-rate for Survivor Series? The Miz wasn't booked as a killer heel who could defy the odds during his WWE title run in late 2010 to early 2011, he was misbooked and treated as a lucky champion at best. He beat John Cena at Wrestlemania 27 because of the Rock, then he promptly dropped the belt at Extreme Rules before loosing what some have called the worst booked I Quit match in history. The WWE booked the Miz to look weak, they teamed him up with a wrestler whose never been pushed as a major player in the WWE and they expected people to beleiev that they had a snowballs chance in hell of beating the Rock and John Cena. Add to that the dull booking of Survivor Series - Big Show vs Mark Henry, CM Punk vs the underwhelming but overpushed Alberto Del Rio and a Survivor Series match that was tedious from start to finnish, but The Miz is the reason why the PPV tanked in the eyes of the WWE. Maybe if The Miz had beaten John Cena for most of 2011, dropped the belt to CM Punk after a brutal hard fought match then tried to destroy the Rock and almost succeeded maybe then the WWE could have blamed him, but if you book a wrestler to look weak then chuck him in a main event against a near indestructible John Cena and a near indestructable Rock with a mid card wrestler as his partner I don't think the WWE can blame anyone bar themselves and their booking committee. Still, it's always been easier to blame someone else for your own failures - and that's the only reason why the WWE is stagnant and TNA can't move up to the next level. Jeez, and I'm not even that big a fan of the Miz.
Posted By: JAK (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDGCMqqoqoc
There's a little reminder for anyone who thinks it was a "Poor Accident".
The Miz WATCHED him coming the whole time. He LITERALLY stepped out of the way! By God, it's SO CARELESS, that it truly looks like he was SUPPOSED to side-step him...Except for one thing proving he was SUPPOSED to catch him...The Miz sold the move...
The guy is a waste of space...
Posted By: RobMinion (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Further proof that Miz is a terrible worker.
Posted By: Adam R (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Absolutely. Personally, I will never spend money on a ppv or tickets to a live event if he's on the card.
Posted By: Guest#0800 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:41 PM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
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No Junior, the "cameraman", who was actually Deuce from the former tag team champions was supposed to catch Taker at Mania 25 and wasn't in position, not Michaels.
Sorry your "Triple H and the WWE are hypocrites" crap you were trying to push there is complete and utter garbage.
All that said, I hope Miz isn't getting TOO much heat here - he doesn't have a reputation of being an unsafe worker, though I understand the guys being concerned since you do have to trust the other guys you're working with out there.
On another note, WWE really seems to be high on Truth here, that's interesting. Usually the front office wouldn't be that angry unless it was a main-event level guy that was possibly injured. Just plays into my theory that Truth is either winning Money in the Bank or getting pushed to one of the two big belts sometime in 2012 (if he avoids another Wellness Violation).
Posted By: Live from the 305 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:46 AM
LMAO. Deuce IS Sim Snuka, and Deuce and Domino were never champions! Dumbarse.
Posted By: Guest#1770 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Actually you're the dumb ass. Deuce N' Domino def. London & Kendrick in 2007 to win the titles. They then lost them to MVP & Matt Hardy. They held the titles for 133 days.
Posted By: Ryan Haseldine (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Why would HE be blamed for the SS buyrate?
lol.
blame the rock cause people know its not 1997 anymore lol
Posted By: Nathaniel Lewis (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Hey miz,go to tna with morrison and melina and take over.
Posted By: dam (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:56 PM
The thing is, if you watch Botchamania, everyone on the roster botches spots, from Kelly Kelly to Cena. Best thing is to learn from it. Instead of yelling at Miz, Triple H should have just brought him to the ring after the show and have him practice the spot until he got it.
Posted By: Guest#7598 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:59 PM
So to sum it up, Miz was to slow to get in the right position to break the fall. HHH knowing this confronted him. end of story. Glad Truth is ok, next...
Posted By: Smarky Smark (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Miz and Morrison in TNA? Yup, you betcha.
Posted By: Bleh (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Why blame Miz for SS? The real reason SS or any ppv not being bought anymore is stream sites. I use them and so do most of you why pay %40 or $50 for something you can see for free online. Also another reason SS failed is Cena Sucks he has sucked for 10 years now.
Posted By: Spike (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:24 PM
It's time for the fans to turn Miz into a babyface. He's worked really hard, and accomplished 1000x more than anyone thought he could. Give him credit where credit is due.
The SS buyrate being Miz's fault is bullshit, a rib at best. As for the R-Truth thing, accidents happen. FFS Khali killed a guy, and HHH, Taker, Cena, and Batista all worked Main Event PPV programs with him. If WWE can forgive involuntary manslauter, then they can forgive Miz for his botch.
Posted By: Age.of.Us (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:26 PM
LMAO. Deuce IS Sim Snuka, and Deuce and Domino were never champions! Dumbarse.
My irony meter is off the charts right now. Deuce and Domino were totally tag champs from april to august of 07. they beat kendrick and london and lost the straps to matt hardy and mvp
Posted By: Jlevysan (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Also, why can't the IWC get together and collectively agree on giving HHH heat. I don't mean X-Pac, but real legitimate heat. Why doesn't he get booed like John cena by all of us smarks? Surely there is enough reason to not like the guy and how he got to the top. But if that's not reason enough, what about burrying the talent and constantly hogging the spotlight. Do we want another HHH-Taker match?
If that happens, I will not order the PPV. I will not throw away money to watch another Taker-HHH match. Enough is enough.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Triple H has given us plenty of reasons to like him too. Sure, sometimes he has obnoxious personality and ego traits. But the guy has enormous respect for the sport and its fans and usually that respect wins out.
Also, last I checked Triple H - Undertaker is only ONE of the matches on the card.
Posted By: Guest#6786 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Everybody knows who deserves the blame for SS: WWE Creative
Posted By: C (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Otunga and Miz need to go down to FCW and learn how to wrestle instead of such limited move sets and punching kicking.
They are the worst wrestlers along with Khali.
Posted By: scooter (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Why is he getting blamed for the Survivor Series buyrate?
Posted By: Guest#1566 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Also, why can't the IWC get together and collectively agree on giving HHH heat. I don't mean X-Pac, but real legitimate heat. Why doesn't he get booed like John cena by all of us smarks? Surely there is enough reason to not like the guy and how he got to the top. But if that's not reason enough, what about burrying the talent and constantly hogging the spotlight. Do we want another HHH-Taker match?
If that happens, I will not order the PPV. I will not throw away money to watch another Taker-HHH match. Enough is enough.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Triple H has given us plenty of reasons to like him too. Sure, sometimes he has obnoxious personality and ego traits. But the guy has enormous respect for the sport and its fans and usually that respect wins out.
Also, last I checked Triple H - Undertaker is only ONE of the matches on the card.
Posted By: Guest#6786 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:34 PM
You're right. In my case, that's enough reason to not buy a PPV. The streak is supposed to be one of the hottest things (by WWE standards). So why not put some more effort into it by making me believe it can be broken by someone I would care about? Triple H breaking the streak would only solidify the previous statements. A 3rd match between these two at WM is not worth my money. I'd rather watch Taker vs. Hogan, Cena, Warrior, Austin, Punk, Jericho, any one else.
I'd even book him Taker in the E Chamber only to have Bryan eliminate Taker by submission. That would give Bryan the edge going into Mania after being the "only" man to have made Taker submit. The story writes itself.
Posted By: Guest#8175 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 01:53 PM
kinda ridiculous that they'd blame low buyrates on him, or just about anybody, but yo can't really deny that he's been a main event dud.
Posted By: Guest#8113 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Also, why can't the IWC get together and collectively agree on giving HHH heat. I don't mean X-Pac, but real legitimate heat. Why doesn't he get booed like John cena by all of us smarks? Surely there is enough reason to not like the guy and how he got to the top. But if that's not reason enough, what about burrying the talent and constantly hogging the spotlight. Do we want another HHH-Taker match?
If that happens, I will not order the PPV. I will not throw away money to watch another Taker-HHH match. Enough is enough.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I agree, I cannot believe how loud Triple H chants get from everyone. I mean, people hated him from around 02 to 06 for the same reason people hate Cena: he was getting all the titles, holding on to them for a really long time without putting anyone over, and holding back new talent. The prospect of HHH vs Taker was booed back in 2002 I believe, enough that they postponed the match and changed it to HHH vs Hogan (which wasn't exactly a better idea, but hey . .)
And now every time he comes out, he does these really long promos that are painful to sit through . . I mean, I understand if it's just kids cheering him since they'll cheer/boo whoever WWE wants them to, but how can the often rebellious adult fans cheer him too?
Posted By: Guest#7797 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:42 PM
I agree with the people who question how Miz could have been responsible for SS low buyrate. There are so many other factors that probably affected that other than Miz that to blame his solely for it is just unfair scapegoating.
BUT, Miz didn't just botch a move, he FUCKED UP in a major way. Sure, even the best wrestlers botch, CM PUNK's career is a rifled with botches, but 99% of the time it is in the process of actually trying to complete a move or sequence to the best of their ability. There's an acceptable margin of error when it comes to botches that I'm sure all wrestlers understand but watch the match again. The camera angle was perfect. you can clearly see that Miz was practically staring at Truth the whole time, and that Truth was dead center/lined up with him when he dove only to find Miz CLEARLY sidestepping him on the way down. In Miz's own words, "Really? REALLY?" The man is going to need to resurrect Johnny Cochran himself to try and explain that away because it's sooo obvious.
Posted By: Markus (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:43 PM
I was going to buy Survivor Series to see The Rock team with John Cena, but I found out MIZ was one of the opponents. I was appauled and did not order.
That makes zero sense doesn't it?
Posted By: Justin Mathis (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:50 PM
I would hate myself if I had to answer to HHH.
Posted By: Guest#8437 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Remember when edge debuted and broke jesus from the los boricuas neck doing the same thing but hitting him on the top of his head?
Posted By: RyJay (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 03:02 PM
I was feeling bad for the Miz when reading this post UNTIL I watched the youtube clip that someone graciously posted in the comments section.
Miz has NO RIGHT to complain. It looks pretty deliberate to me that he got the hell out of the way and Truth took the landing full force.
Hell, moments later he got out of the way of Kofi Kingston as well when he went flying out out the ring.
In this case, I think HHH had EVERY RIGHT to bitch him out. Maybe as punishment, Miz will be jobbing to both Sin Cara's on Superstars for the next 6 months?
Posted By: Krunchy (Registered) on February 07, 2012 at 03:19 PM
HBK almost fucking killed Taker in a similar spot at Mania...wonder if he "got heat" for it.
Posted By: D. (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:51 AM
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No Junior, the "cameraman", who was actually Deuce from the former tag team champions was supposed to catch Taker at Mania 25 and wasn't in position, not Michaels.
Sorry your "Triple H and the WWE are hypocrites" crap you were trying to push there is complete and utter garbage.
All that said, I hope Miz isn't getting TOO much heat here - he doesn't have a reputation of being an unsafe worker, though I understand the guys being concerned since you do have to trust the other guys you're working with out there.
On another note, WWE really seems to be high on Truth here, that's interesting. Usually the front office wouldn't be that angry unless it was a main-event level guy that was possibly injured. Just plays into my theory that Truth is either winning Money in the Bank or getting pushed to one of the two big belts sometime in 2012 (if he avoids another Wellness Violation).
Posted By: Live from the 305 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 08:46 AM
LMAO. Deuce IS Sim Snuka, and Deuce and Domino were never champions! Dumbarse.
Posted By: Guest#1770 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Just stop, I get no pleasure by pointing out you are retarded.
Posted By: Guest#6649 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 03:46 PM
miz has never been a main eventer. I have no idea why the WWE thought people would follow him. Miz is a joke
Posted By: Guest#0562 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Miz is a treible wresler but good on the mic. He would fit in with TNA, seeing how TNA has 2 minute matches and two hours of talk.
Posted By: Guest#4605 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:20 PM
I hate Miz. But how can one worthless, talentless dude be responsible for a low buy-rate on a PPV?
Posted By: Comment Board Poster (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Yeah, Miz fucked up that spot and deserved to be repremanded. However, that Survivor Series heat is such bullshit. WWE had all the momentum in the world in the summer and was picking up casual fans left and right. CM Punk was a hot draw and if they let the story build a little while longer ratings would have gradually increased. Instead the fans get Kevin Nash interrupting Summerslam. Most internet wrestling despise Kevin Nash, younger fans have no idea who he is and casual fans have completely forgotten he existed. With Cena and Punk you have two characters who are perfect foils for each other and by throwing Trips and Kevin Nash into that equation and all that momentum disappears. Suddenly all the casual fans stop giving a shit, younger fans are confused, and internet wrestling fans turn on the product. We're left with months of arguing over a text message and a lackluster title run from Alberto Del Rio. The Miz is getting the blame for the low Survivor Series rating? Give me a break. Poor writing and atrocious booking caused everyone to give up on the product yet again.
Posted By: db (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Why would HE be blamed for the SS buyrate?
lol.
blame the rock cause people know its not 1997 anymore lol
Posted By: Nathaniel Lewis (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 12:48 PM
You're a dumbass. WM27 buyrate? Rock was basically nothing in 1997.
Posted By: Guest#6103 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Bet ya $5.00 that Miz takes the 1st fall at E.C
Posted By: $5.00 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 05:36 PM
The miz pulled a Kennedy" yell™
Posted By: box (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 06:24 PM
Well I hope HHH got the same treatment when he put on some of the worst title matches and main events of all time.
Posted By: Oh! Lymping Hero (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:43 PM
There goes The Miz's push. Bet he's not even on the WrestleMania card this year.
Posted By: Guest#9463 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Miz N Morrison reunion in ROH!
Posted By: Guest#0376 (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:02 PM
What people seem to be missing about the Miz situation, is that this was NOT a simple "Mistake". He proved himself to be a COWARD and SACRIFCED a man's body to preserve his own. He ran from his charge. If he were in the Army and ran from his charge he would be court marshalled and possibly imprisoned. Drastic comparison, but it's the same principle. It is one of the all time BIG no-no's in Pro-Wrestling.
A man trusted him with his safety and he failed him. Not because of poor timing, not because he was too far away, not because of an accident...But because of FEAR. Because the Miz feared for his own safety and let another man take the bullet for him. Inexcusable.
As for Triple H tearing him a new asshole in the back...This brought a joyous tear to my eye! In this pussified verson of Pro-Wrestling today, nobody is a MAN. Nobody will stand up and ream a guy out when he needs it. In the old days, the Miz would have been chewed out by ten guys...And God help him if he did that on Bill Watt's watch!
Triple H is the LAST vestage of what is RIGHT with wrestling. Him and Taker. The rest are gone. People are dillusional to that fact due to how the smart marks PERCEIVE him.
They think he slept his way to the top. Or pulled rank. Or some other nonesense. They ignore the fact that he was a world champion long before he and Steph were an item. They ignore the fact that in the late 90's and early 00's...He was arguably THE BEST IN THE WORLD...
Posted By: RobMinion (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:51 PM
When your "Creative" gives career-killing gimmicks like farting to one of your talent, especially one with loads of pedigree, you have no credibility to complain about your talent letting you down.
Posted By: Bleh (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Miz looks like he's skipping the gym a bit, too. Might be getting too comfortable.
Posted By: RDog (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 11:57 PM
OMG
Mr. Anonymous Internet Poster who has been claiming to have said [insert wrestler here] has sucked for almost 4 years and uses all the IWC buzzword. You are so inside and smart that we all look like buffoons because we didn't listen to you about [insert wreslter here].
You are so smart and inside. We all just wish that we were as smart and inside as you.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:32 AM
What's a "wreslter?"
Posted By: Andrew Barbarash's Vibrator (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 12:01 AM
As for Triple H tearing him a new asshole in the back...This brought a joyous tear to my eye! In this pussified verson of Pro-Wrestling today, nobody is a MAN. Nobody will stand up and ream a guy out when he needs it. In the old days, the Miz would have been chewed out by ten guys...And God help him if he did that on Bill Watt's watch!
Posted By: RobMinion (Guest) on February 07, 2012 at 10:51 PM
This made me laugh out loud because on Bill Watt's watch he would have fired Kofi for even doing such a move and if you were an old enough person to have any right to comment on Bill Watts' watch or the way the business used to be you would know that.
Posted By: gpjunk (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 01:49 AM
Okay, settle is down there, buddy. Very true...Bill Watts was NOT fond of the flippy stuff...But that's the evolution of wrestling. Love it or hate it. I was simply making the point that in the old days, a guy would have been fired for selfishly sacrificing his partner's body. I'm more than aware of Bill Watts. lol
Posted By: RobMinion (Guest) on February 08, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Why on Earth should The Miz be blamed for the Survivor Series buyrate?
Posted By: Matt Eli (Guest) on February 11, 2012 at 12:25 AM
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