Scott Steiner Speaks On Why Things Didn't Work in WWE, The Fall of WCW, More
Posted by Ashish on 05.10.2008
Good interview with Steiner...
The Baltimore Sun has a good interview with Scott Steiner up. Highlights are below.
On why he didn't do well in WWE: Well, if you look back, everyone from WCW got treated like [garbage], from Goldberg, to Kevin Nash, to Scott Hall. You have to remember – you were there – we beat WWE for 82 weeks straight, and Vince [McMahon] obviously took that personally, so he wanted to bring everyone in that was on top in WCW and bury them. Kevin Nash is supposed to be the best friend of Triple H, but he got the same thing. He won the first title match [against Triple H] by DQ and then lost the second one. I can't really take it that personally because [Tripe H] treated supposedly his best friend the same way. I'll tell you right now: People up there are miserable. Both times that I went up there, it was the most screwed-up place I've ever been.
On who is to blame for WCW's fall: The people that are the most to blame are the higher-ups in TBS. They despised professional wrestling even though we outdrew basketball, baseball – even when the Braves were in the World Series. And then to sell it for $2.5 million? That's ridiculous. That right there shows you it was a [screwed] up situation. Everybody wants to blame Eric Bischoff, and they don't know what they're talking about. Eric Bischoff was one of the best things to happen to WCW because he brought the pay scale up and he wanted to get rid of the old [expletive] that was going on in WCW. Unfortunately, he didn't want anything to do with the booking. I had a number of talks with Eric where he said, "Man, I need to find some different bookers. Where do I go?" It was hard to find.
On the resect shown to Ric Flair during his RAW farewell: It's written in the show. They have to show up. It's just like if they tell you to go out there and do a match. They had to go out there and pretend like they respect the guy. The only guys that do are Triple H and Shawn Michaels. They're three peas in a pod – three guys who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. They're three of the biggest [wusses] that have ever been in the sport. And they're all friends – imagine that. They all come from the same mold. They were never athletes and the way they got things done was behind closed doors and backstabbing people.
Ooooh, big scary Scott Steiner dissed Ric Flair. Gee, maybe he's right and no one on that show actually respected Flair other than HBK and HHH. Please. What a joke.
Posted By: Sam (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:49 AM
Yeah, HBK, flair & HHH cant work at all and are in no way athletic. Steiner is a moron. He was over from the second he showed up on RAW, he failed cause he sucked ass, and his matches were awful. Everyone has to job to HHH, even Shawn & Ric. They got over it and did'nt pout for the next five years. Steiner is a loser.
Posted By: Rocky (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:58 AM
Pipe down sally, Steiner could possibly make farts that can kill you.
I see nothing in this interview that should enrage anyone. It's just an employee speaking the company lines.
Posted By: synn (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:59 AM
This is just an indication of the new generation brain washing that seems to happens every 7 to 10 years. 10 years down the road, HHH will be the greatest and nicest person to ever work backstage in the WWE who never did wrong to anyone.
Posted By: Industry (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:14 AM
I laugh at these two internet "tough guys" making fun of Scott Steiner behind their computer screens.
Steiner could probably kill them by just staring at them. The only person in the business that didn't fear Scott and Rick Steiner was Meng(Haku). Meng even scares God.
Posted By: Oscar (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:47 AM
Steiner is pissed because his time is long past, and the only thing that separates him and his brother is the amount of steroids in his system. Put down HHH, HBK and Flair all you want you 50 year old syringe- You'll damn sure never see those three jobbing at a JCW show!!!
Posted By: Neil (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:54 AM
You know, i was pondering over this the other day. I never really liked or appreciated Flair until he came to the WWE and they made such a big deal about him. No disrespect, he's truly a legend. but i can remember a time where all I heard were the anti-Flair stories from guys like Shane Douglas, Mick Foley, Steve Austin, Paul Heyman. Stories about how he played politics and didn't care, stories about he held people down. Then i got to thinking about all the StarCades he headlined and won...were all of those really necessary??? I mean, back then, he really was the Triple H of his time. And it may just be the same thing for Triple H 10 to 15 years from now. They'll be a brainwashing of the new fans and all of the crap that we don't like about Triple H will be swept under the rug only to make him seem like the greatest professional wrestler of all time.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:04 AM
lol.. its almost like this is a mock interview..
lol, like asking the Natcho man his thoughts on the Huckster and Cold Stone Steven Austin lol.
hhehhehe.. maybe he's trying to cut a promo and forgot which company he's working for.. lol :P
Posted By: DumDum (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:07 AM
Even though everyone will say it looks like sour grapes, Stiener speaks a lot of the truth. Vince did bring in the WCW stars just to bury them, and ratings are crap at the moment with HHH as champ.
Posted By: DS (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:08 AM
"Put down
HHH, HBK and Flair all you want you 50 year old syringe- You'll damn sure never
see those three jobbing at a JCW show!!!"
But then again, Shawn was this close (=) to being in that position. Good thing Kevin Nash got him to kick the habbit. Cus Vince sure as hell wasn't gonna save Shawn. Triple H wasn't gonna save Shawn. Thank Nash for that, had it not been for him, Shawn woulda been workin indy shows half drunk for rest of his life.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:10 AM
But then again, Shawn was this close (=) to being in that position. Good thing
Kevin Nash got him to kick the habbit. Cus Vince sure as hell wasn't gonna save
Shawn. Triple H wasn't gonna save Shawn. Thank Nash for that, had it not been
for him, Shawn woulda been workin indy shows half drunk for rest of his life.
Not quite. Shawn was arguably the most popular wrestler (heel or face) in his heyday, and short of him showing up on tv with a crackpipe in one hand and a bloddy knife in the other he wasn't going anywhere. Jeff Hardy supposedly has a meth problem, and he will be soaking up airtime on Raw like a sponge again in a matter of days. Youth & agility, along with drawing power, ok. Old, wrinkled and jacked out of your mind on 'roids, not ok in Vince's book.
Posted By: N (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:21 AM
after this steiner went on a roid rage and ate a janitor
Posted By: lloyd mongul (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:54 AM
Im sick and tired of people hating on Scott Steiner, this guy is a legend. He may have personal problems, just get over it. As for HHH he is big $@#$@, this guy thinks he is the best. Yeah right. Some comments state that Steiner uses steroids, hmm, look at HHH body, hmm could be steroids. HHH is a suck little punk. He will always be a third wheel. The true hero's of wrestling is the one and only, Bret Hitman Hart. Shawn is cool, but, he is a backstabbing little baby. But, Shawn is a good athlete.
Posted By: Rebel (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 04:20 AM
Anyone who disregards what Steiner is saying about Flair should read Mick Foley's first book.
I think Steiner is right and I LIKE Flair (Flair/Steamboat 2/3 Falls best ever) but it's been said before.
But I think everyone that came out for Flair's Ceremony genuinely likes him. Except for maybe Steamboat, unless he's over Flair's comments about his wife ruining his career.
Posted By: Power and Glory (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 04:22 AM
am i the only one waiting for Steiner's biceps to start spontaenously bleeding?
everytime someone starts pissing about Cena being roided up, a picture of this douchebag should be posted in response.
that said, no doubt that there is truth mixed in with the utter bullshit, the trick is figuring out one from the other.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on May 10, 2008 at 04:30 AM
Must be the roid's talking.
Anyways, he hasn't shown a lick of talent since 97 or so, so fuck him.
Posted By: Penguin (Im fuckin registered) (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 04:40 AM
Im all about holding someone down, would you give up your spot at work for some new guy. NO. Why should it be diffrent in wrestling.
Posted By: T (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 04:59 AM
I think Triple H wouldn't save if Kevin Nash kick Shawn's butt because Triple H not that dumb and Kevin Nash would kick his butt also, he (Nash) got LOT friends!
Posted By: Mr. Old Frog Stevens (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 06:16 AM
Speaking of Steiner interviews, anyone remember the one which turned up on his official website in which he claimed his strength came from Flintstones vitamins?
Turned out to have been a fake interview written for a parody site. When the writer emailed Steiner's people to ask what THAT was about, they said that Scott thought he actually gave that interview.
Original interview here: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/5803/ss.html
Posted By: Shiori Coybito (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 06:48 AM
When Steiner makes reference to never being athletes, he means they didn't have the same path as himself, Kurt Angle, Shelton etc. I think Steiner speaks alot of truth there, it was obvious that Triple H flat out didn't want to put Steiner over in any way during their matches. Vince and Co. knew Steiner was coming in after a signficant lay-off and injuries, so why book him in a straight 20 minutes match for the World Title on a PPV? They set him up to fail right away instead of easing Steiner back into it.
Posted By: kliq316 (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 06:58 AM
Whata bitter little man.
Posted By: TheOne (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 07:05 AM
Scott Steiner right about Triple H at first, but last part about Flair looks really weird.
Posted By: L'Mago (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 07:16 AM
I'm not going to say a repeat myself. Only the REASON!! REASON, ONLY 1 PROBLEM. Is....... "Steroid" that why they alway being miserable and misunderstand behavior
Posted By: Justin Crediblepac (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:04 AM
its called opinion, he's entitled to one, sure you might not agree with him, yes he's probably bitter, but he has his own opinion on things so let him have it, he can't wrestle for crap anyway so let him bitch and moan
Posted By: jaymo (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:23 AM
"Im all about holding someone down, would you give up your spot at work for some
new guy. NO. Why should it be diffrent in wrestling."
True in the business world, not necessarily in wrestling. For a company to continue on and have a successful future, the established stars have to put over the younger stars. Look at guys like Terry Funk who made half of ECW, Undertaker put over half of the WWE, hell even Tommy Dreamer made Justin Credible and Lance Storm. Some people get "made" by their own merits, but its a tradition in wrestling that eventually one must pass the torch. It took Ric Flair some 25 years to fully grasp this concept.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:37 AM
I'm not sure that everyone had to pretend they liked Ric Flair. A lot of the guys on the farewell Raw are younger and weren't affected by Flair's backstage actions.
As for them burying WCW guys - I'm not sure about that either. WWE treated Flair pretty well. It wouldn't make sense to bury guys that they could make money off of, guys like Goldberg. The problem was Triple H was being booked strongly and everyone, ex-WCW wrestler or not couldn't get on equal footing.
Posted By: JT (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:44 AM
I really have to think, and in no way is this kissing vince mcmahons ass.
He didnt bring in these stars to bury them. I honestly think he brought them in to ground them. Steiner, Nash, Hall, Goldberg, etc. that he brought in were all under time warner contracts making more money then triple h, Austin, and even the rock. all of their egos were far greater then vince was.
if that is the case, why was booker pushed for IC. TT, King, US, and World Champion.
Helms got pushed, etc.
Goldberg was not worth his weight, the fans are who turned on him during WWE events. and Vince saw that.
Steiner got booed by WWE Fans in his fued with Triple H
Scott "Betty Ford" Hall was washed up and so was Kevin "Quad Tear" Nash
Steiner is still drinking his own cool aid
and as far as people hiding behind computers. this is our opinion and if steiner was going to beat someone up for this.
then he is a sack of.......
Posted By: WWE Journalist (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:51 AM
Ric Flair, Jericho, Big Show, and countless other WCW stars were not buried by WWE. Scott might kill me with some God feared fart, but he's still a God-aweful sports entertainer. I highly doubt all that respect for Flair was scripted, though I have no doubt peer preassure was involved, it was still an epic career in the industry. Jealousy is a vile drug, but then I doubt drugs are a stranger to this guy.
Posted By: rage (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Let's not forget the first run in the wwf for the Steiner Brothers. They were the best team at that time and Vince made them loose the belts to the damn Quebecers on a disqualification. He has some right to be pissed off. They leave WCW only to have one good feud with Money INC. then basically job the titles only to leave in early '94....His other WWE could have both his work and back stage politics....I hate these so-called insiders think it was a one sided affair with his firing when they aren't even a part of the business. They weren't there.
Posted By: DynamicDude (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 09:12 AM
Steiner's in heavy denial, guess all the juice must've burned out his brain. For one he wasn't "burried" in the E, quite the opposite and straight out the door he got a series of title matches. He bombed because his matches SUCKED. HARD. ROCK HARD even. And I don't think even his die hard fans (are there any?) would argue that.
Posted By: Guest#6127 (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 09:20 AM
"The true hero's of wrestling is the one
and only, Bret Hitman Hart. Shawn is cool, but, he is a backstabbing little
baby. But, Shawn is a good athlete."
That is all so incredibly horribly true!!
Posted By: SPANKY! (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 09:28 AM
It was good until the last part.
Posted By: JJ (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 09:35 AM
AHEM Booker T WAS World Heavyweight Champion.
Goldberg held the WHC.
AND REY
oh Eddie....yeah Steiner ya big Liar WCW guys do just fine in WWE.
Posted By: MichiyoYoshiku (Registered) on May 10, 2008 at 09:38 AM
WWE only dropped the ball with Goldberg, as far as Steiner thinking Nash and Hall got treated like garbage when they went back, he is just wrong. Nash was a walking injury and Hall was still having problems with the bottle.
Posted By: timmy (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 09:39 AM
If you've only read these three snippets, you absolutely must read the whole interview. Steiner interviews = journalistic gold. The best part is when the interviewer tells Steiner to brace himself, because he's a Shawn Michaels fan. God, I laughed so hard. And the story about the Puerto Rican nurse sounds like something Steiner would do, lol.
Posted By: Rob (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM
I respect Steiner's opinions... but he just wasn't wrestling that good during his WWE run. Maybe he was just having a foul time of it, I don't know. I'm sure he'd still got buried, because Vince loves to throw away money to spite people, but I think he'd have had a better run if he'd done more than belly-to-belly suplexes and falling down.
He seems to be doing much better in TNA, though.
Posted By: G-Walla (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM
From the fake Steiner interview linked above:
----BD: Why are you the big bad booty daddy?
SS: Some people think it’s because of my ability to attract women with these peaks here. Those people are called idiots. The name comes from the fact that I like freaks with huge asses. I can’t get enough of getting a hand full of lumpy, doughy behind. I like to chew on the fat like its bubble gum.
BD: Ok, shut up now.
SS: Then I use their big butts as a pillow when I sleep at night. One time I got my head stuck in one of their cracks.
BD: Shut up for the love of god.
SS: My freaks don’t like your tone.
BD: They’re not here.
SS: My freaks are everywhere. I can’t walk down the street without a loyal fan hitting me with a brick just to see how tough I am. They tell me that my credit card is maxed out just so I can kick their ass because they love me so much. ----
That made my day. Funniest thing I've read in a long time.
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Steiner didn't do well in WWE because he SUCKED. Remember the matches with HHH?
Posted By: MDK (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I wanna know what they're putting in the Kool-Aid over in TNA, cause it's making everyone delusional.
He didn't do well cause he SUCKS. Nash and Goldberg didn't do well cause THEY SUCK. Plus, didn't Goldberg get a title run? Oh yeah....hardly berried there Scott.
The guys a total dick. In 1990, he was a tag team God...but by 1994, he was a roided up freak who could barely move...I don't give a crap about his neck injury, there are plenty of guys who juiced cause of an injury, but guess what? They got off the stuff. Steiner is STILL doing it.
And Trips couldn't "fight his way out of a paper bag?" Um...wasn't it Trips who had to sell the 900 overhead belly-to-belly suplexes during their Rumble match because Scott forgot how to work?
Steiner is pathetic. Oh, and to all the marks who are all "he could squash you," I'll just run circles aroung him for 30 seconds to gas him out, then smash face. End of story.
Fucking marks.
Posted By: Ramsey (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 11:18 AM
"Well, if you look back, everyone from WCW got treated like [garbage], from Goldberg, to Kevin Nash, to Scott Hall. You have to remember – you were there – we beat WWE for 82 weeks straight, and Vince [McMahon] obviously took that personally, so he wanted to bring everyone in that was on top in WCW and bury them."
What a pile of crap. Scott Hall only lasted a few months before getting fired because he couldn't stay clean. How was that Vince's fault? Kevin Nash couldn't walk down the Raw ramp without injuring himself. But that was Vince burying him? Goldberg came in and beat The Rock, then Triple H for the World title, then had a big marquee match against Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania. How exactly was he buried, again? And as for Steiner himself, he came in and went straight to the top of the card in a world title match at the Royal Rumble. The only problem was he was so gassed a few minutes that he couldn't even do a suplex without dropping Triple H on his head. As I recall it, Steiner's wrestling was so bad that the crowd turned on him and actually cheered for Triple H, yet he wants to blame McMahon?
Maybe the reason that the WCW guys didn't do well is because they were too old and had too much baggage. If he was talking about guys like Booker T and Chris Jericho, then he might be on to something. But even those guys had world title runs in WWE.
As far as his comments about Ric Flair, if he thinks there's ever going to be a Scott Steiner farewell show on either TNA or WWE and the locker room is going to come out show their appreciation for his career, he's a bigger idiot than I thought possible.
Posted By: subtlefuge (Registered) on May 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Yep. Vince made him do 95 belly-to-belly suplexes every match. Snitsky called-he wants a dollar cuz it wasn't your fault.
Posted By: fishstix68 (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 11:32 AM
All this coming from the guy with his own Mini-Me? Roid Rage really kicking in now Scotty?
Posted By: CM Wolf (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM
"Well, if you look back, everyone from WCW got treated like [garbage], from Goldberg, to Kevin Nash, to Scott Hall."
I stopped reading after that, Goldberg had a bad attitude apparently from day one, Nash couldn't walk without tearing something, and Hall's personal problems got him fired within six months.
Posted By: Yoshigo (Registered) on May 10, 2008 at 12:02 PM
chris benoit was world champion too
Posted By: p diddy (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 12:10 PM
All of the WCW guys got buried Scott? Really? So Benoit, Booker T, Rey Mysterio ... none of them were World Champions? Jimmy Wang Yang is in the tag title run, Chris Jericho (FIRST UNDISPUTED CHAMPION, CURRENT IC CHAMPION)... Yeah, I can totally see his point *sarcasm* Steiner is such a tool.
Posted By: daniel (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I love how Steiner thinks HHH, HBK, and Flair aren't legitimate athletes. Coming from somebody who couldn't have a quality match to save his soul is just hilarious. Or maybe he thinks they aren't athletes because they got in their shape with tough workouts and training instead of injecting horse semen into their arms like he did.
Posted By: A-Ron (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Sure HHH and HBK are dicks we all know that. But come on no way is WWE run worse than WCW. Vince is the boss, no one else. Can't say the same for WCW back then. Hogan was the real boss there and look how it turned out.
Posted By: JM (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:00 PM
"Ric Flair, Jericho, Big Show, and countless other WCW stars were not buried by WWE."
The Big Show have so much comedy segments what he decide leave WWE and return only because feud vs boxer. Yes, Scott Steiner's matches in WWE was horrible. But if you don't forget, it was matches against Triple H. Booker T's matches against Triple H was horrible (he job to HHH on Mania and SummerSlam), and Golberg's matches against Triple H was horrible. Kevin Nash's matches against Triple H was horrible. Guess what? Even all of them horrible wrestlers, or Triple H thinks what he above them and don't want to make them look good.
Posted By: L'Mago (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Why they still name Chris Benoit? Chris Benoit is gone, he died and murder so let forget about him.
Posted By: Little Scott (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Ya know...I understand if he doesn't like HHH, Flair, HBK, etc....but did he REALLY just say that HBK isn't an athlete?
Posted By: Ego (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:18 PM
Typical Big Poppa Dump. Always complaining about the failures in his life when they were all clearly his own fault. In my mind, Big Poppa Dump is tied with Bret Fart as the biggest crybaby in wrestling.
Posted By: Anonymous (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Steiner is just bitter. He and his brother Rick made a good tag team. However when they were split up, Scott didn't do as well and it was downhill from there.
Flair trashed Steiner in his book too.
Posted By: chris (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 01:43 PM
I'm not going to time to read all 52 of these comments but things like scott steiner can kill you are contrary to any argument people are presenting idiots. Second Steiner hates Flair cause Flair had some political power in WCW, whereas Scott in his own interview sucks up to Bischoff and doesn't realize how politically his kiss ass was with him and Russo. He calls flair and hbk the biggest wusses in the sport. Scott was a good wrestler for 5-7 years flair and hbk were great wrrestlers for 25 and 20 years respectively. Scott lost his job because at WWE cause he was sucking wind in his and HHH Rumble match after 5 minutes and getting booed as the face. Don't believe me, watch that and the No Way Out. Oh and saying WWE brainwashed fans to think Flair was great, and that you really never thought that before he enetered WWE. Why don't you watch some of his matches with Steamboat, Funk, Savage, Luger, Sting, Windham, Hart...the list goes on and on. Not to mention his passion for the sport. Youtube is Final WCW interview and if youre a fan for any company (WWE, TNA, ROH, ECW) you know you'd want flair giving that final speech for your respective company. PEACE
Posted By: q (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:16 PM
At least Goldberg became world champion in WWE and Nash was part of a great storyline with Triple H, what did Steiner ever accomplish? Two crappy ppv matches, although he got to do a thing with Stacy
Posted By: William (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:42 PM
I made him call me the big bad booty daddy.
Posted By: Uncle Elmer (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:49 PM
i headbutt poppa pump he eat chicken popped out in dump.
Posted By: Rufus R Jones (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Meh...I wouldn't take too much stock in it all. The substances combined with, shall we say, a rather evidently limited intellect have made Steiner who he is today, that is, to say, the kind of bullying, knuckle dragging ape who picks on anyone smaller than him, but never anyone bigger, and thinks showing any emotion makes you a whiny fag.
From Flair's Book:
"I'd helped Scott Steiner get a job with WCW in 1989, when his brother Rick came to me and said that Scott was starving in the Memphis territory. I was impressed with Scott's amateur background and thought that he had huge potential.
The Steiner brothers became a successful tag team in WCW, the WWF, and Japan...they were also the only two stars with amateur credentials I knew who felt the need to disrespect bottom-card talent...It was among the most unprofessional things I ever witnessed, but WCW management appartently didn't want to address the issue. I can count the number of times I heard agents say, 'We don't want to get Scotty mad.'
As a singles performer, Scott had a tendency to get on the microphone and start ripping into people in a personal way. He did it to Diamond Dallas Page and his wife, Kimberly, Torrie Wilson, and Terry Taylor. But he always seemed to avoid insulting Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Haku, Scott Norton, and other guys who might have had a rebuttal.
Today, Scott Steiner has a family. And the sad thing is that they're now going to have to read what I'm saying about him, the same way my kids had to listen to what he said about me. At one time, Scott was a decent athlete. After a number of injuries, though, he's a shadow of his former self. He took a cheap shot that I'll never understand and certainly didn't deserve. He's a guy who meant nothing as an attraction, drew no money, and has no legacy. People will forget him the minute he retires. Most wrestling fans have already forgotten him. He's mid-card talent now."
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:01 PM
Did Steiner's wrestling !!
Soory he is a colleagic wrestler !! An all time great !
He has had great matches with Jericho , Beniot, Booker T , Goldberg, Nash, Rick. DDP and the likes !!
His Acolites in Tag Wrestling speaks for itself with great matches and feuds against DOOM, ROad Warriors, Varsity Club, Harlem Heat, The 4 Horseman, DUngeon of Doom, Sheephearders, The Outsiders, Twin Towers etc !!
Don't even go their Steniers been around and knows WTF he's talking about , you bunch of interent ASS CLOWNS !!!
Posted By: WTF (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:09 PM
@Steiner didn't do well in WWE because he SUCKED. Remember the matches with HHH?
Posted By: MDK (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM
REALLY , REALLY !/?
If you look at the promos building to that match Steniner did it all! HHH was the tweener and Syenier was booed out the building when he arrived starting the match cause they were all HHH marks !!
Also it takes 2 to tango !! HHH was supposed to jump into the power bomb and Stenier had to lift HHH with his own might and in th eprocess he fell back -which got him booed more so !!
HHH matchs sucked uunl;ess they were aginst Taker or Austin - HHH mathes vs ROck sucked !! Hogan everybody !!
HHH sucked when Stenier came in and does so more so now !!
Posted By: FTW (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:13 PM
For all those criticizing Steiner for saying that Flair, H, and Michaels couldn't fight. If you were in a real fight, and could have one of those three, or Steiner, on your side, whom would you pick? Here's a hint; if you said anyone other than Steiner, you're an idiot.
Posted By: truthsayer (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 03:42 PM
All that from a guy filled with juice
Posted By: me (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 04:04 PM
The reason HHH didn't put over Scott Steiner was Steiner was hurt all the damn time. You don't put someone like that at the top. By the time Scott Steiner got health the fans didn't care amymore because he looked like shit to long in the ring because he get wait until he was healthly to make his return to the E. It all his fault.
Posted By: Guest#4432 (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 05:13 PM
"For all those criticizing Steiner for saying that Flair, H, and Michaels
couldn't fight. If you were in a real fight, and could have one of those
three, or Steiner, on your side, whom would you pick? Here's a hint; if you
said anyone other than Steiner, you're an idiot."
Sure, of course, but, really, what's that matter? Seriously? We're talking about a worked, political BUSINESS, not legitimate fights.
Posted By: McGann (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 05:38 PM
Steiner forgot to mention how Flair offered to put him over for the World Title in 1991 but Steiner declined.
And did Steiner accuse Flair of burying Steve Austin? That is a load of crap.
Flair was gonna put Austin over huge and drop the title to Austin in 1994 until HULK HOGAN came in and ruined the whole thing with his political BS.
Posted By: Rob Z (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 06:33 PM
too bad they didn't like steiner, he had the look and the charisma. he was a stiff as a tree his second go around, but hey, it worked for hogan!
Posted By: mmafight.ca (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 06:42 PM
It's amazing what bitterness and jealousy do to some people. No one will remember Steiner when he retires, he didn't contribute or do anything for the wrestling industry. He wasn't even impressive when he was champion. He didn't prove anything, just mediocre and nothing more.I'm sure it kills him that he'll never be in the same league as Flair, HHH, or HBK.
Posted By: Guest#0847 (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:07 PM
It's quite apparent that many of the posters on this thread haven't been wrestling fans for very long. Scott Steiner entered the ranks when tag team wrestling was still a major part of the game, and good tag team wrestlers were respected. He and his brother were one of the all time great tag teams, and Scott Steiner was a skilled and innovative ring tactician. He was using every kind of suplex effectively long before anyone claimed the dubious title of "human suplex machine," and for those who don't know, he invented the Franensteiner, which is usually mislabeled these days as a hurricanrana. He's even thrown a couple of frankensteiners in recent ppvs, which is astonishing considering his current age and size.
Personally, I've never been all that fond of the "Big Poppa Pump" character, preferring the younger, svelter, face Steiner. But even I have to admit that he's using that character very effectively in TNA, getting both humor and menace into his promos. Does his singles career measure up to Flair's? Of course not, but again, he's one of the great tag team wrestlers, and has carved out a decent singles career, when he's been healthy enough to really go. I might mention that Steiner was a star wrestler in college, while Flair was a bust in the amateur ranks, so Steiner's assertion that he's a better athlete than Flair is totally justified. As for Michaels and H, almost all of their major success has occurred in the WWF/E, which means they aren't wrestlers at all, but "sports entertainment superstars." I doubt either of them knows how to apply a decent hammerlock or throw a decent suplex, and it will be a cold day in hell before either of them throws a frankensteiner. I know it upsets WWE fanboys to hear any of their official heroes maligned, but if you read the whole interview, 90% of what Steiner says is true. If you didn't know, now you know.
Posted By: truthsayer (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:35 PM
McGann, the critical word in your reply to me is "political." There was a time when wrestlers advanced because they were good in the ring, and secondarily, on the mic. Today, they advance through politics. Case in point, HHH, who is horrible on the mic, and was extremely limited in the ring even before his injuries; now, he's simply pathetic. But he'll stay at the top of the heap in WWE, because, as Steiner points out, he's f*cking the boss's daughter, and siring the boss's grandchildren. Even those consumate backstage politicians Hogan and Nash never went that far. I will grant that Flair and Michaels can both put on a good match and work the mic, but H's path to success has been carved out by his d*ck.
Posted By: truthsayer (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 08:46 PM
Scott Steiner's an idiot. He had a big push going in the WWE when he first arrived and he blew it. Simple as that.
Posted By: Raiderhorde (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
"As for Michaels and H, almost
all of their major success has occurred in the WWF/E, which means they aren't
wrestlers at all, but "sports entertainment superstars." I doubt
either of them knows how to apply a decent hammerlock or throw a decent suplex,
and it will be a cold day in hell before either of them throws a frankensteiner."
What? WHAT?
Did you watch Angle vs HBK? HBK vs Flair? Can't do a fucking HAMMERLOCK? Good god man, get your facts straight before you talk down to us!
Posted By: Brendan (Guest) on May 10, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Morons abound on this site - Steiner is a real wrestler, a real carrer, a real man, like Kurt unlike other por wrestlers that are actors. If you want to diss Scott do it too his face - pussies!
Posted By: Dr Bob Onit (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 12:38 AM
For all the people saying 'Say it to Steiner's face', you're an idiot. Steiner is insulting people in an interview too, not to their faces, doesn't that make him like us?
That said, half of what he says is absolute crap, and the other is true. Flair is a wrestling legend, but stayed on the top for a damn long time without putting over many people as he had political power, much like HHH, Nash and Michaels.
Ex-WCW guys have done pretty well I reckon: Jericho, Benoit, Mysterio, Booker T had all been world champions at some stage, while others held tag team and IC gold. Steiner is just bitter 'cause his matches with HHH sucked total ass and the crowd let him know it.
Steiner was one of my favourite wrestlers in WCW with Rick, but his singles career is tarnished by injury and bitterness. It's a damn shame too.
Atleast he's happy in TNA, though.
Posted By: Banz (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Why are all the Roid Supporters out there insisting we insult Steiner to his face? I think we're allowed to have an opinion without flying down to Florida and expressing it to his face. Can this man kick my ass? Of course he can. Can this man entertain me? Not in any purposeful way since he left the tag division. He's not running his mouth off to Vince, HHH, and Flair in person, so why should the every man have to hunt him down and tell him how they feel? It's a reply to an article, I don't think anyone is tossing down the gauntlet and challenging him to a duel. If you're only arguement is "You wouldn't say that to his face", then you don't really have much of an arguement. I think Khali is a tool too, but I'm smart enough to say my piece from the comfort of my own home. That's the priviledge granted to the fan of wrestling, since day one, that we can sheer or boo whomever we want.
Posted By: Rage (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM
That Ramsey guy is a pussy. I could kick his ass, and Steiner could kick my ass, therefore Steiner would fuckin' murder him.
Apart from that, basically everything Steiner said is true.
Posted By: Kennedy (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Scott Steiner talks to get attention, and quite frankly he's bitter over his failures that he can blame on others because it's convenient. He should blame himself cause he was going down hill long before he came o the WWE. In fact if Austins neck had not gotten worse and or Rock had not got into movies then Steiner would not have even been hired. The Same with Goldberg.
Posted By: Terry (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 01:53 PM
I don't blame Steiner for having an ego. Remember in WCW he would pick backstage fights and legitimately bad mouth people on air. His punishment: to be pushed all the way to the World title. He's like a kid that doesn't know any better.
Posted By: Jase (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 01:54 PM
wow somebody sounds bitter
Posted By: dynadave (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:33 PM
All right I will agree Scott Steiner is not an intellectual. If people want to knock him for steroid use then what about Triple H! While some WCW talent did well in the WWE. The Steiner Brothers and Public enemy, two hot WCW tag teams, were never booked right in the WWE. Most of the wrestlers who jumped to the WWE while WCW was still around did great; Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Big Show, and Chris Benoit. But following the buyout, during the Invasion angle, the WWE made it look like WCW and ECW guys couldn't beat WWE wrestlers without cheating. The booking for Diamond Dallas Page as Positively Page was horrible. Booker T wore the World Heavyweight Championship into the WWE and quickly lost it. IT was 2007 before he was allowed to hold a heavyweight belt in the WWE again. The WWE tried making the Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner into a face. This gimmick only works as a heel. AS for the remarks about Ric Flair I disagree. Flair is one of the all time greats. As to the idea of Flair holding people back, he seems to have helped the careers of Sting, Chris Benoit, Randy Orton, and Dave Batista. For the most part I feel the respect for Flair was real, though he should have hung up his wrestling boots years ago. As for Scott Steiner feeling bitter why not?
Posted By: Guest (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 05:17 PM
Is it just me, or has the amount of illiterate morons increased on this site? Seriously, please try and put together a coherent fucking sentence.
Oh, and Steiner's full of shit. Amateur ability means very little in this business, and HBK, HHH, and Flair are all better than he was or ever will be.
Posted By: Chopper (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Chopper, if you're going to criticize other people's writing, you should try to keep your own grammar correct. It should read, "try TO put together a coherent fucking sentence." (Personally, I think "coherent motherfucking sentence" would scan better, but that's a stylistic choice, not a grammatical question.) Oh, btw, when it comes to pro wrestling and wrestlers, I'd tend to accept the word of a guy who's been in the business 20 years, and has held numerous tag team and individual belts in several promotions, over the opinion of some guy venting on an internet wrestling board. If you didn't know, now you know.
Posted By: truthsayer (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 07:31 PM
I agree 100% about what Steiner says about Ric Flair & Triple H. I'm not sure about Shawn Michaels, because at least he can say he is a good in-ring performer and has charisma. And he's totally right about the fact that no-one respects Flair, how can yu respect that puny little guy with a body like his?
Posted By: John (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 07:57 PM
i used to like big poppa pump back in the his prime, during his tag days and wcw days... but now he is so prone to injury and seems to do not much in the ring.
Posted By: miloytheman (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:22 PM
I think there is two sides to the story.
First off, him, Halland Nash got buried because they were not very good when they came back to WWE. It wasn't because WCW beat them in the ratings. They were all broken down and could not work a WWE mani event style. As far as Goldberg was concerned, Vince dropped the ball with him period.
As far as his comments toward Flair, Michaels, and HHH. It is true that they are backstabbing politicians. There is no denying that. It is how they got to where they are at. However to say that they are not "athletes" is absurd. They are all tremendous athletes and unlike Steiner they understand RING PSYCHOLOGY. Steiner never had that and ruined his athleticism with steroids.
Posted By: Willie D (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Remember people wrestling is a WORK. I doubt Steiner beleives every word he is saying in that interview, he's just playing up to his character.
IT'S A SOAP OPERA!
Posted By: olympic hero (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 01:52 AM
I think Hall, Nash, and Steiner sucking was the excuse, not the reason they weren't really pushed. They were buried because WCW almost killed the WWF.
I mean we don't even see Scott Hall do one match before he's jobbing to Steve Austin at Wrestlemania.
Scott Steiner carries Triple H to his best match in years, but the reason for the match sucking is blamed on Steiner because it couldn't be "Miss McMahon's husband" fault.
Posted By: fg76 (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 02:02 AM
Triple H is a wuss? This from a man who can't wrestle for months because of a sprained ankle. I'd like to see Steiner continue a match when he has just torn a muscle in his leg!
Steiner wishes he had the balls HHH does.
