Various News: SD Rating, Hogan's Do-Rag, Velvet Sky On Ashley
Posted by Ashish on 05.11.2008
Sunday news items...
- Smackdown did a 2.4 fast national rating on Friday night. [WrestlingObserver.com]
- Tampa Bay Online has an article up about how Hulk Hogan should have taken off his do-rag at Nick Hogan's court proceedings on Friday, but that bailiffs didn't ask him to remove it because it would cause a scene. The article is available here.
- TNA Knockout Velvet Sky, while discussing the Ashley Massaro/escort situation on the Monday Night Mayhem show, said that people around her have told her the allegations are probably true. She also said it was "disgusting."
even IF the ashley thing is true who cares,that is why it is called a past,because it is something you DID not something you are doing..
Posted By: Jason (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:21 AM
Jason's right. So what if OJ killed Nicole? So what if Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews? It was in the PAST, guys. People who work for WWE are perfect human beings.
Posted By: Guest#4949 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:29 AM
"Velvet Sky on Ashley" = misleading topic title.
Posted By: Engel (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:29 AM
Really Velevet Sky thinks it's disgusting? The one who shares a stage name with a porn star thinks sex for money is disgusting? Just trying to understand the situation...
Posted By: Dave Tomlinson (Registered) on May 11, 2008 at 02:35 AM
jealous much?
somebody's pissed she can't get $25,000 a night lol
Posted By: teh411junKie (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:39 AM
Hey Jason, by that reasoning it's okay if I killed someone 3 years ago - as long as I'm not killing now?
that logic is flawed it's disgusting if she did it yesterday or 10 years ago - time isn't a factor in right or wrong
Posted By: MPJ (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:46 AM
Umm.. Velvet Sky, aka Talia Madison, is a STRIPPER. That is her real life job, or at least it was before TNA signed her. So I really don't think she should be talking about Ashley.
Posted By: Guest-0 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:46 AM
velvet dont mess with my girl ashley man ashley is hot but she better take earings out of her lips cause thats yucky,also who cares if she a stripper,she makes people a lot of money and also she doesnt do that anymore so velvet sky u r a hoe so dont mess with my girls ashley,damn ashley has big boobys
Posted By: dude (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:54 AM
That's why it's called the past, it's something you've done and something you should be accountable for.
Posted By: Matt Eli (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:56 AM
u know good and well sky has done stuff shes not proud of be carefull if u live in a glass house
Posted By: Guest#0584 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 03:06 AM
Umm.. Yea, because your past is something that makes you who you are.
So if you were a murder, and walk away free, thats not good now isn't it Jason.
Same here, If I took a Million dollar by sleeping with Billionaires while thousands of wrestlers are working their ass off to get a contract with WWE. Only to find that those hard work won't work because they didn't get dirty or that someone that was dirty took their job.
This is why I hate Celebrities.
Posted By: Hank (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 03:09 AM
Dumb bailiff not doing his job. Was probably scared.
I, for one, don't see at as any form of disrespect. The do-rag is part of hogan like a purse is a women. People are looking for any reason to shit on the hogans and its a shame. And if i hear one more person think they are clever and say "maybe hogan doesn't know best" i will kill them.
Posted By: Guest#1967 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 03:13 AM
Okay you guys do realize that this escort service was going on while she was employed with WWE right?
This was not something she did before she was famous.
Posted By: Redvexx (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 05:11 AM
And the winner of the single most ignorant, hyperbolic and inflammatory post thus far goes to the useless asshole who posted this...
"So what if OJ killed Nicole? So what if Hitler tried to
exterminate the Jews? It was in the PAST, guys. People who work for WWE are
perfect human beings."
i don't think i have ever encountered anyone who has ever tried to equate the Holocaust to escort services before in my life.
Guest#4949, you are have won the '411mania Utter Douchebag Commenter Award' for this complete piece of garbage.
this post ranks on par with Scrotum Pole suggesting that JR should have another stroke and die.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on May 11, 2008 at 05:12 AM
She also said it was "disgusting."
Is it possible that everyone has misinterpreted what she said? Maybe she was referring to the whole situation, you know, faceless tools from the IWC judging her, the associated press running articles and digging up dirt like website archives.
I dunno, maybe that's what's disgusting.
Posted By: jimmy (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 05:53 AM
it's "Dew-Rag"... and take it off, ya disrespectful moron.
Posted By: Richard (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 07:20 AM
"even IF the ashley thing is true who cares"
Apparently Velvet Sky does?
",that is why it is called a
past,because it is something you DID not something you are doing.."
It's absolutely right. I'm going to your house right now to kick your ass from here to Alaska and don't you dare suing me tomorrow. It's the fucking PAST!
"The one who shares a stage name with
a porn star thinks sex for money is disgusting?"
There's a you know, small subtle difference here, Mr. Dumbass. Or maybe do you think Kane should go to jail because he burns people and their houses. It's something called a wrestling character. Oh, and Umaga isn't really an illiterate savage, just thought I'd break this news to you.
Posted By: Guest#7662 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 08:00 AM
Hogan removing his Do-Rag would cause a scene? Really? Then again, it is the Hulkster. One could assume he would instantly hulk up and point the finger at the judge before giving a big boot to Nicks lawyer, then dropping the leg.
Posted By: Krowe (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 08:19 AM
Im sure Velvet Sky and every other girl in wrestling is a big whore too. At least Ashley got paid for all the cock she took in.
I thought Hogan had a bandana on? DoRags are for "minorities" and thugs.
Posted By: Champ (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 08:22 AM
He's not putting them at the same level as escorting you illiterate dipshit, he was pointingout how those were bad things that have ben done in the past, and that the people who did them shouldn't be removed of responsibility because they did it in the past. And you say WE jump to conclusions.
Posted By: JJ (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 08:31 AM
I want to see Nick in country jail, he are murder his friend for fun drive accident. But who is judge? Is he Muhammad Hassan?
Posted By: Bino Ladeno (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 08:37 AM
I just find it funny people would pay $25,000 for Ashley, who wasn't even famous at this stage.
Who'd pay that? Jeez.
Good for Smackdown too, after bombing recently.
Posted By: Banz (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:15 AM
CHeck your senses, superfans. I think Jason was being sarcastic.
As for the courts, they just need to know their boundaries. When they disrespect the bandana, they disrespect the power of Hulkamania!!
Posted By: Christopher Warrior (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:31 AM
its do rag or doo rag, look it up you know-it-all moron
Posted By: Guest#3216 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Hey Mortis, I'm pretty sure that person was using this little thing commonly known as "sarcasm".
You know, using it to make fun of Jason's comment because it was idiotic logic.
Posted By: Guest#0359 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Here we go again, Darth Mortis trying to tell everyone what to believe and what's right and what's wrong. I don't believe the writer was attempting to say that being a prostitute and killing Jews are the same. He was making the point that whatever you do in your past is a part of you. If I date a girl who's been married 4 times and she's cheated on every man she's ever been with should I take that into account? Of course! It's her past, it does matter. Just because someone did something in the past doesn't mean that it should be forgotten.
Posted By: Mike G (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Velvet Sky and Ashley.....The Pot and the Kettle?
Posted By: Cm Wolf (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Mortis, do you understand the concept of sarcasm?
Posted By: oohchavo (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:39 AM
"maybe hogan doesn't know best"
Posted By: Rorschach (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I guess ol' Hogan doesn't know best!
AMIRITE PPL?
Posted By: Jimmy (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:50 AM
being a stripper isnt the same thing as being a paid whore. dancing isnt sex. ashley is the whore
Posted By: fred (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Can anyone tell me, REALLY tell me, what is so disgusting about prostitution? Let's face it, sex is legal, selling stuff is legal, so why isn't selling sex legal? It's a victimless crime folks, the woman gets some money, and the guy gets an orgasm. What's wrong with that?
And remember, those who would talk about diseases, the only reason that diseases are prevalent is BECAUSE of it being illegal. Being a prostitute is legal in Nevada, and it is also regulated and taxed. The women are taken care of with insurance, and they have to get tested every so often.
LEGALIZE IT, and shut these idiots up.
And those who compare a victimless crime like prostitution to killing people or exterminating the Jews, kindly die in a fire.
Posted By: InfernalCatfish (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Yea because the holocaust and mujrer is the same as some bitch selling her body. You guys are morons, who cares about how many men she's slept with or how much money she made.
The WWE obviously doesn't because she would have been gone by now.
Posted By: Guest#9153 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 11:18 AM
....I'd pay $25k to sleep with Velvet Sky....
Posted By: Guest#6053 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 11:19 AM
But that was his formal do-rag.
Posted By: Guest#7526 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 11:51 AM
and the award for person with the most time on his hands goes to Darth Mortis, who finds the time to commentate on every article ever posted on 411 and give everyone his condesending opinion that no one ever wants to hear, congradulations buddy you deserve it
Posted By: Darth Douchebag (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Absolutely! What Ashley was doing was disgusting! But, purely in the interest of fairness, I would be willing to hear Ashley's side of this. In fact, if she would like to demonstrate her skills in the process - - I would not only appreciate it, I'd encourage it! I'll be waiting, Ashley... Just let me know...
Posted By: BarnDude (Registered) on May 11, 2008 at 12:19 PM
A stipper is not necessarily a slut - however, to have any kind of morals lesson from either of these two is laughable - grow up boys! Sex sells if you want to buy it!
Posted By: Dr Bob Onit (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but for once, I actually agree with Darth Mortis.
Posted By: Guest (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Hulk's son was going to jail! It was a hard time, and the Bandana is very much a comfort Item for him. do you realize how silly Hulkster would look bald in the courtroom, the man would break down. The bandana helped him keep together.
Posted By: Davy (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 01:24 PM
maybe Hogan doesnt know best!
Posted By: Nitro (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 01:33 PM
and the award for the person who has MORE time on his hands than Darth Mortis, is Darth D-Bag.
how would you know he's on EVERY article if you prolly write on there as well?
shut..
up!
Posted By: anonymous (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 01:35 PM
I've been posting here as "Jason" for months. How dare someone use my totally original name and say something so stupid? What you do reflects who you are, simple as that. If she was broke and starving then maybe, but she only LOOKS hungry. Henceforth I shall be known as Shockmaster2 (as though you care).
Posted By: The Real Jason (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 01:37 PM
JJ, don't you even start opening your ignorant mouth, there is no justification to put some woman's past that he doesn't know in the same sentence as 12 million dead at the hands of the Nazis.
maybe get off his jock, wipe his spunk from your chin and try having an original thought, ok?
i could care less what she did, it isn't illegal if she was licensed. hell, escorts aren't even required to have sex with a customer. ok, i know that reality is ugly to fuckrag smarks like you, but sitting her and shitting all over Ashely whilst you masturbate at her pictures is the kind of hypocrasy that i hate.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on May 11, 2008 at 01:43 PM
If we are comparing Velvet Sky's stripping to Ashley's escorting for money, I'd have to say Velvet Sky would be the more virtuous in this situation by far.
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Okay let's get this straight... who wouldn't give 25,000 to Talia Madison for one night? I would... more willingly than Ashley. Though I absolutely think Ashley is hot.
Maybe if I save up 50,000... 25,00each? :D
Posted By: Colonel Perfection (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 03:02 PM
People who sit around debating the morality of these things should be out there living lives of their own. People need to stop calling for performers heads on a silver platter for every mistake they make... although personally I'm pretty anti-Ashley...
Posted By: M:-X (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 03:13 PM
So what about the guys that are willing to pay 25K a night to get laid?
Geez a hundred bucks at a singles bar might accomplish the same thing.
And as someone once said, you don't pay a hooker for sex, you pay her to leave.
Must really want them to go for that much dough.
Posted By: Mr. 25K (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Hogan is either very disrespectful, just a moron, or just REALLY REALLY embarrassed of his hair.
Posted By: RoussimoffForever (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 04:29 PM
The courts were in fear that if Hogan took off the doo-rag, it would have blinded the judge.
Posted By: fg76 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Thats bs, Hogan should have took his damn do-rag off. It's totally disrespectful and the bailiffs were a bunch of straight up punks. The bailiffs told me to remove my do-rag and hat when I had jury duty last year.
Posted By: BxBaller (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 05:28 PM
So...sex is as bad as murder now? Ashley is as bad as Hitler? Damn, you people are stupid!
Posted By: saxaboom (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 06:39 PM
I hereby proclaim this to be the bitchiest comments section in all of 411!! Congratulations all of you, you're witty insults and holocaust metaphors were a joy to read. Seriously, take a bow, it takes a lot of effort to blow so much out of all proportion......that's the dedication of our fine commenting audience.
CLAP
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Posted By: dennett316 (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 07:16 PM
Lol, the WWE are totally going to turn this scandal into an angle.
Some people missed the point of the escort service. You get famous women. So if true she used her position with the WWE to rake in extra money as an escort to rich dudes. This is something Vince will care about.....
He'll want to know where his cut of it is!
Posted By: Fenris (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:02 PM
I seroiusly wonder when 'escort' immediately meant 'one who is paid for sex'.
Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:48 PM
*seriously
Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest) on May 11, 2008 at 09:49 PM
His Bubbliness, it happened at the exact same moment that virgins were allowed to post in comment sections on 411mania.com.
it is called 'wish fulfillment' insofar as everyone calling Ashley a filthy whore only wish that she was, so they could get rid of their Inflatable Patty dolls and find out what it is like to touch a real woman who didn't give birth to them.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on May 11, 2008 at 11:22 PM
hogan has always wore his bandana to court cases, if it was such a big deal, people should have brought it up before.
Posted By: outlaw (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 12:37 AM
"Jason's right. So what if OJ killed Nicole? So what if Hitler tried to
exterminate the Jews? It was in the PAST, guys. People who work for WWE are
perfect human beings."
Dude, it's the second post. Too early to utilize Godwin's Law.
Look it up if you don't know what it is.
Posted By: Vitamin D (Registered) on May 12, 2008 at 05:33 AM
Godwin's law on the second comment...
Class act there... tool.
Posted By: Yeesh (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 08:38 AM
You can literally guage the ages of the posters on here by how hyperbolic they get over something so unimportant. Or at least guage the level of mental retardation.
Posted By: Spooooon! (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 08:42 AM
When Ashley first started out, it seemed to me that she wanted to be a WRESTLER, not another dumb slut in a jello pool match. But, that's all gone to hell. Aparently, she stopped wanting. And the lip rings are stupid. As for her being a hokker, SO WHAT? What's wrong with hookers? I've never bought one, but if you have, hey, more power to ya. What the hell do I care, it's your damn business. In my high school debate class, years ago, I argued for the legalization of prostitution. I won too. And if Ashley can make $25,000 just for spredin' 'em, more power to her. I promise you all, no woman out there wants to spend $25,000 to fuck me.
Posted By: the Mad Redneck (Registered) on May 12, 2008 at 08:58 AM
This stuff about Ashley is ridiculous. The very fact that prostitution is even a crime is asinine. Like the poster above says.. Sex between consenting adults is legal, selling services is legal but then you sell sex.. OMG.. thats a CRIME!!! There are police officers every dayon the payroll being paid millions of dollars a year by municipalities to combat the "crime" of prostitution. Its asinine. Legalize it, regulate it and control it. Have all prostitutes get licsences that come with testing and safety. Do you realize how much money the government could make by legalizing it? Pot is another thing.. legalize it and you kill just about every other illegal drug market. If you could get your hands on pot legally would you go and buy heroin or coke or crack illegally?
It doesnt take a genius people.. Im getting down off my soap box now.
FCT
Posted By: FCT (Guest) on May 12, 2008 at 02:22 PM
