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WWE News: Tons of Draft Notes
Posted by Larry Csonka on 07.07.2008



- Shelton Benjamin moving to Smackdown was seen as a large surprise, due to the fact that Michael Hayes has never been high on him. Hayes has voiced the opinion in meetings that Benjamin his lazy and never seized the opportunities when he had promo time or during his many "start-and-stop" big pushes. There is talk of running of running a Jeff Hardy vs. Shelton Benjamin feud, but most feel that it will take Hardy down several notches from where he was.

- There are many in the company high on Deuce. He is scheduled to be repackaged soon, but there are a number of producers/agents who are skeptical because the feeling is he won't be good in singles matches. The general feeling is that he has a lot of charisma, but that his in ring timing and mechanics are well below average.

- Domino may not be long for the company.

- Many in the company feel that Ken Kennedy will end up treading water on Smackdown like he has been on Raw for the past year.

- Michael Hayes has been very high on Harry Smith for two-years, and the feeling is that he'll get a good opportunity on Smackdown.

- The break up of Paul London and Brian Kendrick was seen by many as a bad move. Right now Paul London is considered to be in the "not to be pushed" category.

- Fit Finlay was moved to the ECW brand to be the player/coach role that was set last year for Chris Benoit. After his death no one took over the role, which the company felt needed to be filled. Hornswoggle was moved to ECW as to not break up the act.

Credit: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter


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With so many things actually going right for once in the WWE, it still boggles my mind why they still can't get it right with Shelton.

Posted By: KX (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:05 AM

 
 
Shelton is a lot like Kidman, if he doesn't have the personality, the workrate won't matter.

Posted By: Guest#6786 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:11 AM

 
 
Shelton Benjamin did not make the most of his opportunities? Take credit for your bad booking WWE. Shelton was set to take off after the first Money in the Bank but WWE did nothing with him. He is a tremendous in ring talent who just hasn't had the right opportunity. Why not give him a mouthpiece (not his mama), that can elevate him to at least a mid card belt.

Harry Smith sucks. I do not see why people are high on him. No charmisma and not ring skills. Just because he is second generation doesn't mean he will be good. Put him in the Sean Stasiak category.

London and Kendrick were a great tag team, but what was the point of keeping them together? Another tag championship run is not going to help them. London should quit as it seems like they have it out for him anyways, but I see Kendrick having a decent future if they want to push him.


Posted By: Willie D (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:15 AM

 
 
breaking up london and kendrick makes so sense at all...

Posted By: dan (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:22 AM

 
 
Sheldon + MVP = GOLD!!!

the Gold Standard + the Most Valuable Player??... that says TAG TEAM all over

book it!


Posted By: Pepo (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:25 AM

 
 
Wow I can't wait to hear all the comments about Shelton (black guy) being called lazy by Michael Hayes!

Posted By: King Draz (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:30 AM

 
 
Shelton is super talented, but he needs public speaking lessons or something, he just doesn't seem comfortable talking. He can put on a great match and do amazing spots, but if you can't cut a promo it's very hard to advance up the card.

I never saw a problem with Duece in the ring, but maybe Domino and the other guys were good at making him look good. However if he gets to work with the right guys around he he might be able to improve. Let's not forget that Batista had horrible timing, but after working with talented veterans like Triple H he's become a major star.

Kennedy has a fan following, all he needs are good matches and to make the most of his promo time and he might be able to move up the card. but hey, tredding water is better than being an outright jobber.

Kendrick was funny as Spanky, he might be able to carve a place for himself. So even if the break up might have been a bad move, but it's also an opportunity for both of them. Besides if London get's released He'll always be welcomed back in ROH.


Posted By: Really? (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:30 AM

 
 
Wow I can't wait to hear all the comments about Shelton (black guy) being called lazy by Michael Hayes!

Posted By: King Draz (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:30 AM

 
 
They screwed it up with Shelton, not him. They're to busy trying to keep Vince in the spotlight to push anybody. Hayes is just to scared to say it, so he blames it on Benjamin.

Posted By: TWilliams (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:33 AM

 
 
Well, from the sound of things, it might not be entirely the fed's fault. I'm sure Shelton's a great worker, but honestly, yeah, his promos need a LOT of work. He just needs to get in a program with a vet or someone to help him get a groove in the ring.

Maybe now that he's on Smackdown, Foley can give him a hand with promos. I don't see why Foley doesn't do that more, honestly.


Posted By: ThatNickGuy (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:38 AM

 
 
My in ability to take things seriously with Shelton mostly stems from the whole "momma's boy" period. I'd hardly count that as a push when YOUR mom helps you win matches. Now the brief feud with HHH could have done wonders for his career, but nothing ever came of it.

Here are the biggest problems with Shelton:

1. WWE insists on pushing him as a heel, when his offense is clearly that of a babyface. He is a crowd pleaser and a human highlight reel.

2. He has a decent amount of in ring charisma (his facial expressions are very animated), but there is nothing about him that makes him stand out outside of the ring. His mic skills are barely passable, and he really could have used a good mouth piece (Ron Simmons was RIGHT THERE). At this point in time though, he needs to learn to speak for himself.

3. The whole "best pure athlete on the roster" label has NEVER worked or been attached to a superstar that I would call successful. We need to know more about Shelton Benjamin the character. Yeah, his gimmick is the gold standard. Fine...but what does that mean for him in matches? How does this set him apart from other wrestlers, other than just having a gimmick for the sake of having one? I think "Human Highlight Reel Shelton Benjamin" has a much better chance of getting over as a face, than "HI I'M SHELTON AND I HAVE GOLD HAIR AND I HATE THE FANS" has of getting really over as a heel.


Posted By: ShadowHendrix (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:43 AM

 
 
I'm sick of people jacking off over Shelton. He is a spot monkey...he can pull out a couple of fancy looking athletic moves but that is about it.

He can't carry a match with a mediocre opponent.
He can't control a match himself with any opponent
He can't talk on the mic AT ALL
He doesn't have the size or presence to get away with that.

If he wants to get by on what he has...he should head to the indys where you can get away with being a bit sloppier in the ring and not having to talk.


Posted By: Stephen (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:52 AM

 
 
I agree with Pepo.

Also, Paul London and Brian Kendrick should of never been broken up.

Imagine:
WWE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
TLC MATCH
MVP/Benjamin vs. London/Kendrick vs. Miz/Morrison(c).


Posted By: Jordan (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:56 AM

 
 
I'm a fan of Shelton, but he hasn't elevated his game mic wise or in-ring wise. he has always been solid to good, but hasn't improved his foundation. He and MVP would be great together and maybe he can learn a few things from MVP.

Posted By: Shelton's Mama (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:03 AM

 
 
domino > deuce

Deuce is kinda fat and does NOTHING for me.

Domino kinda reminds me of early HHH.


Posted By: Guest#5085 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:08 AM

 
 
DH Smith is so lame, how about HD Smith doesn't that sound better. Can't wait til Smith gets a shot to show what he is made of. And with Deuce, I have always felt Domino was the worker and foundation of the 2, while Deuce coasted cause of his look and his pedigree.

Posted By: GenNext (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:09 AM

 
 
Shelton Benjamin is well known as a huge video game fan. Plays pretty much when he isn't in the ring. He's obviously paying attention to that instead of improving his skills.

And make no mistake, I want to see him succeed. He's an absolute horse.


Posted By: Jake (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:12 AM

 
 
Why did WWE split up 3 of the best tag teams in the company? Londrick, Cade/Murdoch, and Deuce/Domino were doing fine and are probably not going to make much of a splash individually.

Especially considering there is no cruiserweight division anymore for Kendick or London.

And Murdoch didn't deserve to be cut, he could have at least got a legit shot on his own.

And Cade is like Haas and Benjamin without the technical ability (=no charisma or mic skills), he is only there still because of his size and look. I can't beleive WWE values that over a unique look and presence and skillset(ie Murdoch)


Posted By: I miss tag teams (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:18 AM

 
 
Domino kinda reminds me of early HHH.
Posted By: Guest#5085 (Guest)

Of course he does; LOOK at that nose!!!


Posted By: Dave (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:22 AM

 
 
Shelton does need to elevate his game. He has amazing potential but in the end potential does not matter; results do. Batista did not have much potential in the beginning but he worked hard, made the most of opportunities and became a star. Shelton needs to do the same thing. I agree MVP and Shelton would be an amazing tag team.

Posted By: Tugman (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:24 AM

 
 
Deuce & Domino never sold merchandise before. The breakup of London & Kendrick was done before 2. And as far as Mr Kennedy go's I don't think he'll be in so much trouble on smackdown as he was on raw last year

Posted By: John (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:55 AM

 
 
LOL this shelton BS is bull shit if you ask me. First off when Shelton came to raw and got his big push for the first time everyone loved it thats when i became a huge shelton fan then he had his tremendous reign as the IC champ, but shelton didnt mess that up WWE did b/c they wanted to push evolution as a new "four horseman" thus giving Randy orton the IC title and the "upperhand push" WWE faults. The 2nd time he has his awsome reign and fued with Jericho and once again he was making it to the top - BUT then wwe haulted that b/c they wanted to push Carlito and giving him his 2nd BS debut title win(and how credible is the constantly bitching carlito been). then the mama benjamin bid came up and it was crazy but it was working BUT that cae to a hault when they put him in a match with the big show and used him to further YET another persons storyline(big show vs HHH) which hurt him and then mama got sick.(yet again WWEs fault) Not to mention they put the IC title on rvd to push WWE money in the bank title match and then gave it back to benji only to lose it the nitro to PUSH Jeff hardy as ic champ(soething like that). THEN Benjamins breakthrough was comming up when they wanted to push him as ECW champ(through Dusty rhodes idea when he was booking ecw) But then dusty got a job change and they opted to push chavo instead(another trash talent) to further the La Familia storyline. And look at chavo his ECW reign was total crap and now hes fighting over the US championship.(all that may not be in the correct order b/c its was some time ago) The reason shelton isnt going anywhere in WWE isnt b/c his lack of mic skills (look at batista and chris beniot) Its b/c WWE isnt serious about pushing him, and everytime Shelton is getting pushed something gets in his way, something he has WWE has to give to another superstar to further their storyline. now they putting him with the "racist" Hayes who doesnt even like him. Hopefully Hayes power in booking is far less then what it was and seeing HHH on SD! im sure Hayes wont be incharge of much anyway. Frankly thats another reason why shelton is a heel, b/c wwe isnt serious about pushing him. Simply by being a face you obtain the "static" fans, and by making him heel he loses those and thus making him less reputable.
The fact is WWE never gave Shelton an oppertunity to have anything to seize. Every big push shelton got in the middle of it hes get sacrified like a lambs to enhance another story. As long as guys like Kozlov, Khali , mark henry chavo, hell even cade and especially duece and domino are still on TV this whole Benjain burn is total bull crap.


Posted By: rellik kram (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 01:59 AM

 
 
Shelton needs a face turn. you can't book a Heel human highlight reel, because the crowd loves big high flying moves and the crowd shouldn't go "COOL" when a heel does something.
A heel also needs to be able to slow down a match so the face's triumphant comeback is a bigger deal. This is why RVD never really seemed like a heel and was always getting support, he never slowed down the match or stopped doing cool flashy moves!

Benjamin has a good array of kicks, suplexes, arial moves and even a few power moves (his powerbomb and spinebuster). but he's got no painful looking submission moves, meaning as a heel he's stuck doing armbars and headlocks because that's the only way he knows to slow down a match.

The hard part would be erasing years of him being a heel, and finding a heel nasty enough that we'll buy him as a good guy, and then just let him be awesome.


Posted By: Really? (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 02:40 AM

 
 
Stephen you're a tard...plain and simple.
Watch his tag matches from his early years... His matches with HBK, RVD, Jericho. or visit a house show and see him carry a match.


Posted By: Mister S Dot (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 04:36 AM

 
 
not sure about anyone else here but i wouldve liked to see murdoch turn into a hardcore roughneck mick foley esque charachter, but no they draft him into unemployment, poor bastard.

Posted By: mole (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 04:42 AM

 
 
Damn, I feel bad for Kendrick and London.

I'm not surprised at all that Mr. Kennedy is treading water, although he has the potential to rebound.

A program with Hardy is just what Benjamin needs to boost his confidence and his workrate. Benjamin could learn alot from being in the ring with a guy like Hardy. As for Hardy, it's a big step down for him, but its a chance for him to prove himself all over again by not only enhancing Shelton's in-ring performance, but by showcasing his talents as well to the degree where if he does a good job of working with Shelton, then he may actually get a nice push.


Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 06:00 AM

 
 
I like Shelton but he should turn face or get a manager who can talk as he doesnt have the mic skills to be a heel, hes a solid-good worker tho & should get a good US title run but i dont think he will ever be a main eventer but hes just not good enough as an all round package.

Also i dont get London & Kenrick been broken up as they are hardly any teams on Raw as it is & they would of perfect to fued with Ted & Cody, i think Kenrick has a chance but London will get lost on Raw.


Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 07:21 AM

 
 
Harry smith deserves a big push

Posted By: Rob (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 07:24 AM

 
 
How do you know harry sucks all u have seen is the wwe version he was awesome in japan

Posted By: GUEST (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 07:34 AM

 
 
You know, Kennedy may have "treaded water" last year-- but, forgetting about his injury, his wellness debacle etc... from the time they put him on Raw last summer they didn't give him a real feud until HBK in the winter. How can you expect a guy to go anywhere if you're not feuding him?

Posted By: M:-X (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 07:36 AM

 
 
I'm amazed that it hasn't been mentioned (or I haven't noticed it mentioned) anywhere, but isn't Deuce's major selling point right now the fact that he is formerly known as Jimmy Snuka Jnr? I figured the only reason he was moved to Raw was for him to team up with Rhodes and Dibiase.

Posted By: Bad Man (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 08:06 AM

 
 
WWE needs to push Domino'ohhhhhhhhhhh! The guy is entertaining.

Posted By: Listen to me Vince. (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 08:19 AM

 
 
"Hayes has voiced the opinion in meetings that Benjamin is lazy "

Michael, Michael, Michael. I've loved your work since 1983 when you started your epic feud with the Von Erichs and most recently with your solid booking on Smackdown.

However.... you're just setting yourself up for more racial accusations by saying this sort of stuff. It would have been better to refer to Benjamin as unmotivated, uninspired, not showing any fire/love for the business, but for reasons that are obvious to many of us... lazy is not the word to use for him.


Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 08:34 AM

 
 
Michael Hayes trying to hold down a black man? Why am I not surprised?

Posted By: natedoggcata (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 08:46 AM

 
 
So they had no problems splitting up London and Kendrick, one of their last real and a very good possible contender for DiBiase and Rhodes, but they didn't want to split up FINLAY AND FUCKING HORNSWOGGLE?

Jesus tap dancing Christ, for every CM Punk World Title win, there's bullshit like this.


Posted By: m8 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:16 AM

 
 
Oh and I also love how people in the comments call Hayes racist when he's good friends with MVP and even Booker T said Mizark was overreacting. He said Hayes always thought he was black.

NEWSFLASH: RACISTS DON'T TRY TO EMULATE THE RACE THEY HATE


Posted By: m8 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:18 AM

 
 
I hope WWE is paying attention to the comments section. Dominoh! is getting a lot of love!

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:23 AM

 
 
"LOL this shelton BS is bull shit if you ask me."

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Do you even know what BS stands for?


Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:25 AM

 
 
"Benjamin his lazy and never seized the opportunities when he had promo time or during his many "start-and-stop" big pushes."

Can't argue with that. Shelton is bland, often botches moves (as much as he hits the big flip-flops, but then there are plenty of guys who can jump around) and has no personality or charisma. He couldn't get over even with clean victories over Jericho or HHH.


Posted By: smartass (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:34 AM

 
 
Shelton was doing fine with Kofi on ECW. Bad move I agree. Too bad for Domino as he's getting the Sean O'Haire treatment. Will we be saying goodbye to him and Paul soon? Could be. Finlay in the Benoit role - scary.

Posted By: Guest#2558 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:34 AM

 
 
Okay I started to get pissed off with WWE to the point that I going to watch TNA full time. I'm also not suprised that Michael Hayes would say that about Shelton considering his racial comments. Shelton proved in 2004-05 that he can be a main event performer. What he needs to do is become a face type character like the Hardys and get a shot at the US title. He just sucks as a heel. Everytime he comes out live he can't get no heel heat even if he cuts a promo. But of course when he starts to get over WWE creative of course yanks it from him because backstage he doesn't kiss ass (no pun intended)or buy into politics like the other top superstars like "cough cough" JBL.

Posted By: JFLYNT (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:40 AM

 
 
WWE dropped the ball on Benjamin a couple years ago, he beat HHH 3 times, that should be a ticket to the world title, but no it was just forgotten about. I remember being really excited for Benjamin then and thinking that this was his breakout moment. The crowd was crazy for him, then nothing. WWE dropped the ball with a hot talent. How do you have a guy beat HHH 3 times, then do nothing with him. Benjamin doesn't control the pen, he just does what he is told. And yeah he is a bit spotty, but the guy is a great wrestler too. He should have stayed on ECW and become champion there. Benjamin vs Hardy or Banjamin vs Finlay would have been some great matches.

Posted By: DC (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 09:51 AM

 
 
They love creating reasons for holding down Benjamin. Jeff Hardy gets suspended before WM and his shot goes to CM Punk yet Benjamin, a guy who has never been involved in that wellness nonsense, is a "step down"? Utter garbage. I don't give a fuck how many fat chicks chant for Jeff Hardy. He will never be 1/4 of the wrestler that Shelton Benjamin is. Jeff Hardy=Mick Foley and that's NEVER a good thing.

Posted By: Magnus (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 10:05 AM

 
 
"Oh and I also love how people in the comments call Hayes racist when he's good friends with MVP and even Booker T said Mizark was overreacting. He said Hayes always thought he was black.

NEWSFLASH: RACISTS DON'T TRY TO EMULATE THE RACE THEY HATE

Posted By: m8 (Guest)"

They're idiots, dude. Don't even start arguing with them, they won't get it and will prolly call you names too. Hayes is racist my ass.


Posted By: d00de (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 10:20 AM

 
 
"They're idiots, dude."

"they ... will prolly call you names too"

You are, what you accuse others of doing.


Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 10:30 AM

 
 
I just wanna say that this whole deal with Shelton Benjamin not being given a push due to his lack of mic skills is pretty much bullsh!t. If I'm not mistaken Mark Henry is the ECW Champion, and the Great Khali who can't even speak English was the World Heavyweight Champion.

I really doubt Benjamin is being held back because his lack of charisma.


Posted By: Pedro (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 10:55 AM

 
 
"I'm sick of people jacking off over Shelton. He is a spot monkey...he can pull out a couple of fancy looking athletic moves but that is about it.

He can't carry a match with a mediocre opponent.
He can't control a match himself with any opponent
He can't talk on the mic AT ALL
He doesn't have the size or presence to get away with that.

If he wants to get by on what he has...he should head to the indys where you can get away with being a bit sloppier in the ring and not having to talk. "

Hmm. Sounds to me like you just explained J. Hardy and R. Mysterio perfectly.


Oh ya, except Shelton isn't injury prone and hasn't been suspended for violating the substance abuse policy.

So in the indy's now, wrestlers can get away with being sloppy in the ring? I take it you didn't see the Atlas/Estrada match on ECW this past week?

Enough said.


Posted By: Andaddy (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 10:57 AM

 
 
I wonder if this finally gives insight into the real problems with Benjamin and why he hasnt been pushed that well.

Posted By: Lynx Raven Raide (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 11:04 AM

 
 
I think when they say that Shelton never seized his opportunities, they're referring to the time a few years ago when he would flub every fifth move in the ring in a huge fashion. Sure, the guy can do some good moves, but you can't push a guy who's a safety liability in the ring.

Saying that, he seems to be a lot more sure of himself now, so maybe he'd be able to withstand a US Title run without falling apart in the ring.


Posted By: CyberSocko (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 11:25 AM

 
 
Shelton Benjamin = EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!

Posted By: User 16 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 11:35 AM

 
 
@ Relik

That post was SO fuckin' spot on that I can't improve on it. Its funny...Sheldon's mic skills are just as good/bad as Jeff Hardy (who is a spot monkey, but gets pushed like no tomorrow), Morrison (I LOVE morrison, but lets be real, he was hot shotted to the ECW title and LOST his first match as champ against John Cena, but they made drastic changes in his character because they DEDICATED to pushing him)...

Hell, its not only Benji, can anyone give me a DECENT reason why Elija Burke isn't the fucking ECW Champion by now!? Solid in ring worker, great on the mic and has the look for days.... what IS going on over there?


Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 11:55 AM

 
 
Shelton and the bookers are equally responsible for his perpetual inability to take that next step up.

The booking team messed up by turning the guy heel when it clearly doesn't suit him, but then again Shelton has done little if anything to run with the ball when given his several semi-pushes.

It's a shame Brock Lesnar left the company, because I'm convinced a Lesnar vs. Shelton program based on their amateur history could have pushed Benjamin up to the main event level.


Posted By: The Ratings Killer (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:14 PM

 
 
Maybe Hornswoggle will have a feud with Shelton.

Posted By: kofs (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:15 PM

 
 
Give Finlay a title like maybe United States Champion or Intercontinental Champion. He is an awesome wrestler and he deserves the recognition.

Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 12:52 PM

 
 
This just in: Hornswoggle and his mother were just found bludgeoned to death by a blunt object (possibly a shillelagh) and Fit Finlay has died of alcohol toxicity after chug-a-lugging a quart of Jamison's. Police think it may have to do with his new job as trainer on ECW. More news as it breaks......

Posted By: Chris Benoit (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 02:17 PM

 
 
I'm sick of people jacking off over Shelton. He is a spot monkey...he can pull out a couple of fancy looking athletic moves but that is about it.

He can't carry a match with a mediocre opponent.
He can't control a match himself with any opponent
He can't talk on the mic AT ALL
He doesn't have the size or presence to get away with that.

If he wants to get by on what he has...he should head to the indys where you can get away with being a bit sloppier in the ring and not having to talk.

Amen brother.


Posted By: Guest#2599 (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 04:14 PM

 
 
I think the fact that Shelton blows more spots than a French poodle might have something to do with his lack of advancement.

Posted By: David Burcham (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 04:15 PM

 
 
"Hell, its not only Benji, can anyone give me a DECENT reason why Elija Burke isn't the fucking ECW Champion by now!? Solid in ring worker, great on the mic and has the look for days.... what IS going on over there? "

I couldn't agree more here. Back when the whole "New Breed" angle was going down, he was being built up as the head heal of ECW. When that died him and Punk had a great fued for a bit IMO, but ever since he has been lost in the programming.

I've been hoping that they pair up him and Killings and let them make a run for the tag team titles.

Heck, throw Mark Henry and Farooq in the mix and give us another Nation!


Posted By: Andaddy (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 04:26 PM

 
 
"Hell, its not only Benji, can anyone give me a DECENT reason why Elija Burke isn't the fucking ECW Champion by now!? Solid in ring worker, great on the mic and has the look for days.... what IS going on over there? "

I couldn't agree more here. Back when the whole "New Breed" angle was going down, he was being built up as the head heal of ECW. When that died him and Punk had a great fued for a bit IMO, but ever since he has been lost in the programming.

I've been hoping that they pair up him and Killings and let them make a run for the tag team titles.

Heck, throw Mark Henry and Farooq in the mix and give us another Nation!

Posted By: Andaddy (Guest) on July 07, 2008 at 04:26 PM"

Burke is too inconsistent, he botches even more moves than Shelton. Burkes matches with Punk are the only Punk matches that sucked. Mostly because they had no chemistry, evidence of this is the sloppiness of the encounters compared to the rest of each guys contests. Burke was called up too soon, I hope they send him to the minors and don't cut him so he could get some more seasoning and do something in the future.

And Killings teaming up with Shelton or MVP would be good, being cut back in the day by the E was a blessing for The Truth. He got to work with talented guys and improved his ring presence and mic work so much that it would be wise for WWE to call him up soon.


Posted By: Shelton's Mama (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 06:11 PM

 
 
"Burke is too inconsistent, he botches even more moves than Shelton. Burkes matches with Punk are the only Punk matches that sucked. Mostly because they had no chemistry, evidence of this is the sloppiness of the encounters compared to the rest of each guys contests. Burke was called up too soon, I hope they send him to the minors and don't cut him so he could get some more seasoning and do something in the future.

And Killings teaming up with Shelton or MVP would be good, being cut back in the day by the E was a blessing for The Truth. He got to work with talented guys and improved his ring presence and mic work so much that it would be wise for WWE to call him up soon."

Posted By: Shelton's Mama (Guest) on July 07, 2008 at 06:11 PM

If I had a dollar for everytime J. Hardy botched a "whisper in the wind" I'd be running my own wrestling promotion right now and not posting on these boards.

Personally, I would have rather watched Punk v. Burke every week for 4 months straight rather that Punk v. Visc, or Punk v. Kane.


Posted By: Andaddy (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 07:32 PM

 
 
Sounds like somebody in the WWE finally found their brain. I agree with almost everything on that list, except for how can anybody who knows anything about the business (like an agent/producer) think that Deuce has potential. That guy is god fucking awful and a singles push will just expose how terrible he really is. I hope the E doesn't waste too much time on Jimmy Snuka, Jr. because it probably won't bear fruit.

Let's face it, Shelton is a lost cause. He's been given about 6 pushes and has never turned them into anything. Don't blame the WWE. They've TRIED multiple times to put that guy over and he was never smart or motivated enough to break through.

Ken Kennedy also sucks. The sooner everybody realizes this the better. He is NOT the next Steve Austin. Remember the segment he did with the fake Marty Jannetty and Scott Hall and shit? That was the beginning of the end for him. It was so bad that JR buried it on Raw a week later. That could have been like his "DX makes fun of the Nation" moment and he blew it.


Posted By: JTX (Guest)  on July 07, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
"Let's face it, Shelton is a lost cause. He's been given about 6 pushes and has never turned them into anything. Don't blame the WWE. They've TRIED multiple times to put that guy over and he was never smart or motivated enough to break through."

Because we all know the Shelton determines the outcome of his matches, not the WWE creative team.

That would be absurd...


Posted By: Andaddy (Guest)  on July 08, 2008 at 12:19 PM

 


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