Even More WWE News: Unforgiven Druids, Poor Ticket Sales
Posted by Larry Csonka on 09.09.2008
Even more WWE news!
- Most of the upper deck was blocked off for the WWE Unforgiven PPV, due to low-ticket sales.
- Von Lilas, Anthony Bravado and other students from Derby City Wrestling and Ohio Valley Wrestling played the Druids at Unforgiven.
- WWE has canceled their Aguascalientes show on October 17th due to low-ticket sales, and have moved that show Arena Monterrey. They will now run back-to-back nights in that venue.
Look I've been going to wrestling events in Cleveland since 1998. I've seen some packed shows and I've seen some smaller crowds. This past Sunday at Unforgiven certainly wasn't nearly as bad as everybody is making it out to be. The crowd was hot anyway so get off it.
Posted By: Mongo (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Why the fuck do they call them "druids"? Is Undertaker supposed to be some sort of a nature deity or cleric or what-the-fuck-ever that he would have fucking druids serve him??
Posted By: Guest#5503 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:19 PM
Unforgiven had a crowd of about 13,000 in an 18,000 seat building. Not a sell out but could be worse.
Like TNA drawing less than 2,000 to the 16,000 building WWE uses in Albany, NY (Pepsi Arena) this past weekend.
Or back on August 23, when TNA had a crowd of 500 in the 8,000 seat Expo Center in Topeka, KS.
Now THAT's poor ticket sales.
Posted By: Guest#5667 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:28 PM
The first two comments here just go to show that you schmucks on here will literally bitch about anything and everything, just to apparently "go against the grain"
To Mongo: Nobody was raising a fuss about it... Larry was simply reporting that the top section was tarped off due to poor ticket sales.
and to guest#5503: They call them druids because they dress like fuckin druids, they serve a supposed supernatural being. Whats not to get? Druids are members of a pre-christian religious order. The Undertaker character clearly has some religious themes to it that are not necessarily christian... whats the fuckin problem?
Posted By: wow (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:39 PM
"Unforgiven had a crowd of about 13,000 in an 18,000 seat building. Not a sell out but could be worse.
Like TNA drawing less than 2,000 to the 16,000 building WWE uses in Albany, NY (Pepsi Arena) this past weekend.
Or back on August 23, when TNA had a crowd of 500 in the 8,000 seat Expo Center in Topeka, KS.
Now THAT's poor ticket sales."
Were those TNA house shows? Because realistically the WWE would have not done worlds better.
Posted By: Guest#1532 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:40 PM
These days Druids will work for anyone.
Posted By: Fenris (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:58 PM
Were those TNA house shows? Because realistically the WWE would have not done worlds better.
WWE was just in Rochester NY on Friday and did and easy 8000-8500 in an 11000 building for a house show.PLUS the merchandise table was 10 deep the whole show.Trust me,WWE is NOT hurting.
Posted By: Guest#1097 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:05 PM
Why does everything have to be TNA vs WWE vs ROH? I would guess most of us watch all of them and they all have their good and bad points. Keep in mind that the WWE is 45 years old whereas TNA is 6 years old. TNA has a long way to go to catch WWE (FIRE RUSSO!) but they were AWESOME in 2003-2005. ROH is what it is: a relatively tiny promotion featuring the best pure wrestling in North America.
Attendance? Its simple, put a better card out there and more will attend. Cleveland was probably in a bad mood Sunday after the Browns got killed anyway.
Posted By: Dr. J (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Hey guest#5503, they call them druids for the same reason you're called "guest#5503" on here. Its because you're a nameless figure whose job it is to march to whatever tune your master, in this case Larry Csonka, tells you too.
J-hole
Posted By: logic 101 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:17 PM
big deal. ticket sales for the ppv were low; the MAIN REASON was that the cleveland browns were hosting the dallas cowboys in the season opener the same day.
I know that the "esteemed" wrestling "reporters" may find it hard to believe it but the nfl is more popular than the pro wrestling circus.
big deal. the wwe is not as popular as it was 10 years ago. it is still highly profitable and wwe now is targetting kids which is smart because the fans who watched in the 1990's are long gone; they grew up and moved on in life.
i wish the wrestling "reporters" and iwc smarks would accept simple fact and stop being so negative on today's product.
Posted By: michael (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Really, the poor ticket sale for unforgiven is no surprise. The Browns were having their season opener sunday against Dallas and their arena was sold out which is usual for them
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:25 PM
"Why the fuck do they call them "druids"? Is Undertaker supposed to be some sort of a nature deity or cleric or what-the-fuck-ever that he would have fucking druids serve him??
Posted By: Guest#5503 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:19 PM"
Don't get your 20-sided dice in a twist there Dungeon Master.
Posted By: McLovin (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:25 PM
"Were those TNA house shows? Because realistically the WWE would have not done worlds better."
Actually, it's a pretty big difference. 3,000 is considered a bad night for WWE. Typically, they draw around 6,000-7,000 for house showa.
Posted By: Guest#8613 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:31 PM
I live in Cleveland and let me tell you there was NO BUZZ at all for this show... IT WAS BROWNS KICKOFF DAY!!! someone didnt due enough market research PLUS a lot of us are still waiting for a TNA pay per view
Posted By: JWS (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:35 PM
Everyone has to be TNA vs WWE because TNA insists on being a poor man's WWE. They try to copy WWE and end up looking low rent. They bring it on themselves.
Posted By: Kitty (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:35 PM
Unforgiven had a crowd of about 13,000 in an 18,000 seat building. Not a sell out but could be worse.
Like TNA drawing less than 2,000 to the 16,000 building WWE uses in Albany, NY (Pepsi Arena) this past weekend.
Or back on August 23, when TNA had a crowd of 500 in the 8,000 seat Expo Center in Topeka, KS.
Now THAT's poor ticket sales.
Posted By: Guest#5667 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Can someone tell me what this has ANYTHING to do with TNA?
It's people like Guest#5667 that make me ashamed of being a fucking wrestling fan.
Posted By: seriously (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 03:52 PM
I only saw one blocked off area. And the arena was pretty packed.
I also heard a different group of guys were the druids including Johny Gargano, Vincent Nothing and Michael Hutter.
Posted By: Jerry (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 03:57 PM
"Can someone tell me what this has ANYTHING to do with TNA?
"It's people like Guest#5667 that make me ashamed of being a fucking wrestling fan."
Way to miss the point, dipshit. The Unforgiven ticket sales were called "poor", which is inappropriate to say since...
1. They're weren't too bad.
2. The second biggest company behind WWE, TNA, has been doing much, much worse with numbers that actually should be considered "poor". Some recent TNA numbers were provided to prove this point.
Posted By: Guest#9246 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 04:37 PM
A PPV compared to a house show is way different you fuckin' schmuck. WWE usually don't draw 18,000 fans for a house show. Cleveland fuckin' sucks at everything!
Posted By: Joey (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 05:26 PM
Unforgiven had a crowd of about 13,000 in an 18,000 seat building. Not a sell out but could be worse.
Like TNA drawing less than 2,000 to the 16,000 building WWE uses in Albany, NY (Pepsi Arena) this past weekend.
Or back on August 23, when TNA had a crowd of 500 in the 8,000 seat Expo Center in Topeka, KS.
Now THAT's poor ticket sales.
Posted By: Guest#5667 (WWE Mark) on September 09, 2008 at 01:28
No thats just being normal for a small company going to big arenas and having a different configuration then what wwe uses is not.
Sorry mark.
Posted By: Guest#7274 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 05:30 PM
Everyone has to be TNA vs WWE because TNA insists on being a poor man's WWE. They try to copy WWE and end up looking low rent. They bring it on themselves.
Posted By: Kitty (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 02:35 PM
Yeah and WWE does the same things that TNA gets ripped for including doing 3 of the same gimmick match and gets applauded for it. We TNA marks just love to have a good laugh at you guys because you don't get how sad you all have become.
Posted By: Guest#0379 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 05:33 PM
Ya know, if WWE would drop the skyhigh ticket prices some instead of raising them more and more on a shrinking audience just to maintain the same amount of revenue, they might have a higher draw.
Posted By: Crimefighter (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 06:37 PM
"No thats just being normal for a small company going to big arenas and having a different configuration then what wwe uses is not."
It was a house show. Not a TV event where there is a lot seats that can't be sold. TNA only filled 10% of the availible seats.
Posted By: Guest#2825 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 08:55 PM
"Yeah and WWE does the same things that TNA gets ripped for including doing 3 of the same gimmick match and gets applauded for it. We TNA marks just love to have a good laugh at you guys because you don't get how sad you all have become."
People did rip on the Scramble matches prior to Unforgiven, dumbass. Quit whining.
Posted By: Guest#0813 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 08:57 PM
"A PPV compared to a house show is way different you fuckin' schmuck. WWE usually don't draw 18,000 fans for a house show."
Okay. then. A more fair comparison.
TNA house shows = typically 500-2,000 people
WWE house shows = 3,500-8,000 people
Posted By: Guest#8038 (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 09:02 PM
No thats just being normal for a small company going to big arenas and having a different configuration then what wwe uses is not.
Sorry mark.
Posted By: Guest#7274
Ummmm, normal for a small company? Maybe ROH that has no national television programing, but not TNA...the new face of professional wrestling? (cough)
Nope...they just have a shit product with a few exceptions, most of which are burried on the undercard, and no one is fool enough to waste money on them.
Get it, mark?
Posted By: The Coach (Guest) on September 09, 2008 at 09:14 PM
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