Hulk Hogan Discusses WWE vs. CCW, the MEM vs. the nWo, WrestleMania XXV and More!
Posted by Larry Csonka on 12.03.2008
The Hulkster speaks and you listen, BROTHER!
WWE Hall Of Famer, former WWE/WCW Champion, & the star of CMT's "Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling," Hulk Hogan, was one of the special guests on this week's live edition (12/01/08) of Monday Night Mayhem, hosted by The Big Mosh & Blade.
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"The Hulkster's" first-ever MNM appearance is now available for FREE in Windows Streaming Media, or via the official Monday Night Mayhem podcast on ITunes:
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Here are some highlights of Hulk's interview on the show, provided by The Mayhem's host, John "The Big Mosh" Masiulionis & Mayhem listener, "Springfield" James:
The Big Mosh & Blade welcomed "The Immortal One" himself to The Monday Night Mayhem Radio Network to cap off the extensive coverage of CMT's "Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling," that you have been only able to find on "Your Home Of Wrestling Radio." Before getting into his takes on the CCW finale, Hulk wanted to ask The Mayhem Crew for their takes on the business over the past several years. "The Hulkster" admits that he did stop watching several years ago, as a result of the programming getting "so lame," and switched to following "Orange County Choppers," and never turned back again. He never saw that happening, as he has always been a fan of wrestling. Every once, however, he tuned into WWE Monday Night RAW at the end of the show just in time for the main event to see who Triple H was fighting in the main event. Recently, Hulk said that he watched TNA iMPACT, seeing the TNA World Heavyweight Champion, Sting, in his business suit & without his makeup, along with the other members of The Main Event Mafia. He has the feeling of this being like the nWO..."not when the nWo was hot, but when the nWo started losing steam, when these guys didn't wanna wrestle anymore, and all they wanted to do was talk." He was quite impressed with what he saw out of Samoa Joe & some of the TNA Knockouts, but despite that, he said that he "does not get/understand "the eight-sided ring." "They don't do anything different in that ring than you would do in an old ring." Mosh brought up the never-ending comparisons from fans around the world about The Main Event Mafia being compared to the nWO, and Blade mentioned to Hulk how the current TNA storyline with The MEM vs. The Frontline is more like "The Millionaire's Club" vs. "The New Blood" in World Championship Wrestling, with the main point being to get the younger guys over.
Switching gears, Hulk talked about the success of CCW, and how their program is a reality show with the wrestling vehicle as their foundation. He cannot believe how upset that Vince McMahon & some other people in the wrestling business got when himself & Eric decided to team up together again. Their main goal/idea for this project was a reality program, to have some fun, & "taking the art form to another level." He wanted the fans to see just how much athleticism is needed, that the talent does get hurt, & that it is not as fake as one might think it is. Hulk said that in the midst of them enjoying their success & having fun that "we get rained down upon by the big bad wolf...big brother comes to shut us down." He is glad that the fans have loved CCW to this point, and believes that what they have put together as their finished product has been more entertaining from a storyline & "the element of surprise" perspectives than that of the WWE or TNA.
Reportedly, "The Mouth Of The South" Jimmy Hart & Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake has also felt some of the heat directly & indirectly from the WWE towards CCW. Hulk said that over the years, Vince has done whatever he could to protect the family business, and he totally understands that. However, he does not understand why World Wrestling Entertainment is coming down on Brutus, as he is simply trying to feed his family & put his kids through school. He credits the real life Ed Leslie for keeping the gimmick alive over the years, traveling from state-to-state & overseas, as Brutus has not really worked for the WWE in close to 15 years. He is also surprised at why the rain is coming down hard on Jimmy Hart, as Jimmy asked for the WWE's permission/blessing to appear on the show & has nothing but goodwill towards everyone, and despite that, this is the unfortunate end result. Hulk described the situation, in general, as "bottom-feeder stuff" & "weak," and that "what you throw out there will come back to you." He also wished to add that there is not as much negative energy coming from the CCW side of things, as there is from the WWE.
Without a doubt, "The Hulkster" is very excited about the CCW season finale (airing this Saturday night @ 8PM ET/PT on CMT). Going with the initial concept of the program & reviewing everything at the very early stages, he had no idea how well they were going to adapt with the progression of the show over an multi-week span. But, he did know right after the first week that this was going to work. Fans have credited the show for its successful blending of the styles of wrestling & reality television into one program. Hulk wishes to give credit where it is due, not only to Eric Bischoff & Jason Hervey, but CMT & everyone else involved. He strongly believes that "everything came together perfectly" for this season. Even the celebrities involved surprised him...some more than most, including "The Winner" Dustin Diamond & Todd Brodges. At first, Hulk said that he could not stand Dustin, until he saw firsthand just how much love Dustin had for the business. Wholeheartedly, he believes Todd was the best athlete on the show.
So much more is contained in this 40+ Hulk Hogan/Monday Night Mayhem exclusive, including his uncensored thoughts & comments on the rumors of a second season of CCW (and if we will be seeing the show "going on the road"), whether or not he sees himself appearing at WrestleMania XXV (and in a "dream match" scenario, who his opponent would be), which WWE superstar he sees "carrying the torch" for today's generation, the lowdown behind agreeing to be the special guest referee for this Saturday night's Highspots.com-run show in Charlotte, NC/Reid Flair's professional wrestling debut (featuring "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair, The Nasty Boys, & "The Mouth Of The South" Jimmy Hart), if we can put to bed the rumors of a match with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, why he understands the fans memories of "The Monday Night Wars," the new Guns 'N' Roses "Chinese Democracy" album (and why after all these years, he could classify himself as a "mark" for GnR), how he plans on spending the holidays with his family (as well as updates on Brooke & Nick), & why it is important for him to take "the high road." Without a doubt, you will enjoy the "Merry Mayhem" goodness that only "The Hulkster" can provide!
Don't forget that "Your Home Of Wrestling Radio" will have you fans covered from pillar-to-post on all of the latest exclusive news from "Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling"...all the way into the season finale of the show this Saturday night, December 6th! Check out www.MondayNightMayhem.com for our exclusive interviews with five of the six voted-off CCW contestants (Tiffany, Frank Stallone, "The Mistress Of Mayhem" Erin Murphy, "Candy Girl" Nikki Ziering, & "The Red Hot Redneck" Trishelle Cannatella), as well as www.cmt.com/shows/series/hulk-hogan-celebrity-wrestling/series.jhtml, www.HulkHogan.com, & www.BHE.TV for even more details on "Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling." See who becomes the first-ever CCW Champion this Saturday night @ 8PM ET/PT!
"However, he does not understand why World Wrestling Entertainment is coming down on Brutus, as he is simply trying to feed his family & put his kids through school."
1) Leslie infringed on a WWE copyright. he should be grateful that the WWE doesn't take everything he has, including his double wide and 1984 Hyundai Pony
2) if Leslie had saved his money like the rest of the world has to, then he could put his kids through school without infringing on a copyright and putting himself in this situation.
this is the dumbest thing i can think of anyone doing. did Leslie really think that Vince wouldn't mind if he made money off of something Vince owns?
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on December 03, 2008 at 10:04 AM
"He has the feeling of this being like the nWO..."not when the nWo was hot, but when the nWo started losing steam, when these guys didn't wanna wrestle anymore, and all they wanted to do was talk."
so it's like the nWo from the very beginning??
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 10:12 AM
You are definitely a mark for Vince, Darth.
It wasn't until now that they decide to go after him, because he's on TV. Ed Leslie has used the name all these years, there was never a problem. And worse, how petty does the WWE look for going after a show on CMT? It's not like the Monday Night Wars reborn, now is it?
It never ceases to amaze me that what Vince says is 'no competition' to WWE, he always goes out of his way to destroy. Screw Vince McMahon AND his 'sports entertainment' lackeys.
Posted By: Vince H8R (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 10:24 AM
You are definitely a mark for Vince, Darth.
It wasn't until now that they decide to go after him, because he's on TV. Ed Leslie has used the name all these years, there was never a problem. And worse, how petty does the WWE look for going after a show on CMT? It's not like the Monday Night Wars reborn, now is it?
It never ceases to amaze me that what Vince says is 'no competition' to WWE, he always goes out of his way to destroy. Screw Vince McMahon AND his 'sports entertainment' lackeys.
It's different when he's making $500 and polaroids on and indy show and being televised nationally with the possibility of action figures etc. You blast Darth for being a Vince mark,why not look at yourself for being a Vince hater.The copyright is something Vince paid for.Why should he let people make money off of his property?To be a nice guy?Really?
Posted By: Guest#2073 (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 11:27 AM
"He has the feeling of this being like the nWO..."not when the nWo was hot, but when the nWo started losing steam, when these guys didn't wanna wrestle anymore, and all they wanted to do was talk."
so it's like the nWo from the very beginning??
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Are you too young to actually remember what happened to the wrestling industry when the nWo first came on the scene? Before it got bloated and stupid, the first 4-6 months of the nWo were amazing. Sure, the work rate sucked; but they drew big$$ and big ratings. The storyline was unseen in North America.
Check your history dude.
Posted By: Huh? (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 11:41 AM
McMahon never used the gimmick for himself or any other character, so what use besides greed has for him?
Let Beefcake live, please.
Posted By: JA Toro (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 11:53 AM
"You are definitely a mark for Vince, Darth."
nope, i just believe that no one is above the law.
you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but your opinion doesn't match the law. do i necessarily think that it is fair? no, Brutus Beefcake was the character that made Ed Leslie famous, but the fact remains that Vince owns that character, and had Leslie sought permission to use it, he may have been able to so long as he paid royalties.
yea, it doesn't matter if you are a mark or hater, all that matters is that Leslie violated the copyright, and may have to pay for it through the nose.
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on December 03, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Bring back The Big Booty Daddy, The Zodiac, or The Disciple. Case solved
Posted By: A.G. Awesome (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 12:37 PM
So where was the high road when Hulk trashed the kid that is a vegetable. And seriously CCW is not that great. I was a huge Hogan fan but now I see him for what he is a low life piece of white trash.
Posted By: T-Mac (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Ed Leslie is making money off of the intellectual property of another person. Bottom line. He played the character WWF gave him.
If Frank Welker walked around making money saying he was Megatron, I'm sure the copyright holder for Transformers would have issue.
And if I'm not mistaken, the main issue was him using "The Barber" moniker as well.
Posted By: Ryan W. (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 01:06 PM
Saying it's hypocritical to go after Leslie now rather than a few years ago is a valid point.
BUT, saying it's "petty" to go after him because he's "only" using the name on CMT is ridiculous. Any kind of national exposure should be on the radar. Vince has every right to the intellectual property he owns.
Posted By: Joe (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Bring back The Big Booty Daddy, The Zodiac, or The Disciple. Case solved
Posted By: A.G. Awesome (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Vince owns all WCW trademarks , so he likely owns those as well.
Posted By: The Fresh (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 01:20 PM
LMFAO, did he call CCW a success??? God I'm glad Hogan is off my tv these days. I wonder if we can actually petition WWE to stop putting this idiots old matches on WWE Classics.
Seriously, Hogan needs to realize he's irrelevant to the wrestling world now. CCW's highest rating has been, what, a 0.4??? Whoo, look out for them.
As far as crying for his friends....are you kidding me??? Hey, Hulkster, why don't you give them a raise if Leslie needs help getting his kids through school??? Shame on evil Vince for not letting a WWE-copyrighted product be used at will...like every other company that has a copyrighted product do!!! I think Hogan needs to quit doin' this shit and try and take care of his kids. Brooke's on the trailer trash path has her music "career" has clearly fizzled out. Nick's a jailbird, and how surprised would any of us be if he went back???
Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 01:42 PM
"He has the feeling of this being like the nWO..."not when the nWo was hot, but when the nWo started losing steam, when these guys didn't wanna wrestle anymore, and all they wanted to do was talk."
so it's like the nWo from the very beginning??
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Are you too young to actually remember what happened to the wrestling industry when the nWo first came on the scene? Before it got bloated and stupid, the first 4-6 months of the nWo were amazing. Sure, the work rate sucked; but they drew big$$ and big ratings. The storyline was unseen in North America.
Check your history dude.
Posted By: Huh? (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 11:41 AM
I'm quite old enough to remember. my point was the wrestling stunk, which you pointed out yourself. Yes it was a super hot angle I was a total NWO and still am a Scott Hall mark. But as i grew older and began to have a fonder appreciation for the better workers I realized the nWo for the scam it was.
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 03:16 PM
You got to love that 8 sided ring
Posted By: Guest#2239 (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 03:19 PM
"1) Leslie infringed on a WWE copyright. he should be grateful that the WWE doesn't take everything he has, including his double wide and 1984 Hyundai Pony"
Too bad that he was doing that for close to 15 years now and only now is Vince trying to stomp him just to get to Hogan whom he is (again) in the phase of hating. The same with Jimmy Hart, whom you've conveniently omitted.
Posted By: Guest#9835 (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 08:29 PM
The show is interesting, but it will be hard to find people for the following season. (unless they consider bringing some of the older cast members back)
Posted By: Karatgold24 (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Hulk can't have his cake and eat it too. He said for so long that he wanted to compete with the WWE, and not he is finally doing it, but doesn't want to burn his bridge with Vince. You can't have both! As far as Knobbs and Brutus, they had 0% chance on working for the WWE, so forget it.
I say that CCW needs to be a regular program, but needs to add actual workers to make it work. I also can't help but wonder what they are paying guys like Rodman to do this and whether they can keep it up.
Posted By: scott_nm (Guest) on December 03, 2008 at 10:32 PM
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