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411's WWE Raw Report 06.15.09
Posted by Rob McNew on 06.15.2009





-So tonight we get a pay per view quality edition of Monday Night Raw with FOUR Championships on the line, A new WWE Champion guaranteed, and Vince McMahon's announcement of a new general manager. On paper this appears to be light years ahead of previous week's Raw's so we shall certainly see if this one can live up to the hype. It's going to be a long night, but hopefully in a good way.

-Live from Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, NC

-Hosted by Michael Cole, Jerry "The King" Lawler, Jim Ross, Todd Grisham, Josh Mathews, & Matt Striker

-Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler announce that Vince McMahon is in the building to announce a new GM, but Jerry Lawler has heard rumors that he is here for something else. I'm not sure I like the sound of that.

-Recap package of the events of last week, and the return of Triple H.

WWE Intercontinental Championship: Chris Jericho © vs. Rey Mysterio
I'd like to point out that about two months ago Chris Jericho cut a promo stating he would "never appear on Raw ever again." So who's the hypocrite now Chris? Jericho says ever since he was drafted to Smackdown the show has gone into the toilet. He says the show has gone into a tailspin the likes of which it will never recover. Well I can't argue with the man there. He says someday we'll recognize what he meant to this show, and how immense his talent really is. Someday Rey Mysterio will realize what he says is the truth. That his mask will be his downfall and only Chris Jericho can be his savior and set him free. Mysterio takes Jericho down with a double leg takedown, and then hits a reverse hurracanrana off the second rope. A clothesline sends Jericho over the top to the floor, and then Rey catches him with a kick on the way in. Rey drops a leg off the top rope as Jericho comes in and gets a two count. Jericho comes back to smack Rey off the ringpost, but gets kicked to the floor again. Rey dives off the apron into a hurracanrana, but gets thrown into the announce table as we head to break. I should note that they showed a graphic stating the WWE Title match was just 35 minutes away. I don't like the sound of that. You can feel the bait and switch coming a mile away. Back from break as Rey is elbowing out of a chinlock from Jericho. Mysterio hits an enzaguri sending Jericho into position for the 619. Rey goes for it, but Jericho is up and hits a spinning firemans carry backbreaker for a two count. Jericho goes for the mask, but Rey is able to bail. Back inside Jericho goes for the mask again, but gets kicked away by Rey. Rey flips out of a sunset flip attempt, and delivers a dropkick to the face of Jericho. Hurracanrana connects for Rey, and that is followed by a springboard seated senton for two. Jericho goes for a bulldog, but gets shoved into the ringpost. Rey follows with a dropkick sending Jericho to the floor. Suicide dive connects by Rey, and both men are down on the floor. Rey fires Jericho back inside, and heads to the top rope. Jericho catches him up there, but Rey fights him off and hits a sunset flip off the top for two. Jericho sits back on a rana attempt from Rey for two, and goes for the Walls. Rey pushes out into a 619 attempt which is blocked by Jericho putting Rey in the ropes. Jericho decides to go for the 619 himself, but Rey hits him with a springboard moonsault for a two count. Rey sends Jericho into the ropes again for the 619, and this time it connects. Jericho goes for the west coast pop, but Jericho catches him and grabs for the mask. That distraction allows Jericho to hit the codebreaker to retain at 9:39. Awesome start to the action tonight.
Winner: STILL WWE Intercontinental Champion-Chris Jericho (Pinfall-Codebreaker ***1/4)


-Josh Mathews is joined by Randy Orton for his thoughts. Orton says everyone knows what happened last week, and says six weeks ago he put Triple H out. The same thing he did to Batista and Ric Flair. Orton says HHH came with a sledgehammer because he knows he can't get to him on his own. He says in a matter of minutes he will take back the title, and HHH will be irrelevant. John Cena interrupts and dismisses Josh. Cena sarcastically in reporter voice, that everyone will be talking about Orton. He says people won't be talking about Orton regaining the WWE title, but rather why a WWE Superstar with so much talent continues to be such a gutless, spineless, grand wizard of the Baby Oil Boys Club. I don't necessarily care for Cena's over the top delivers, but Baby Oil Boys Club is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. He reminds Orton that there are two more people in that match, and he thinks he can speak for Big Show when he says that if he thinks they are going to take the night off so Orton and HHH can settle their differences then that baby oil he rubs all over himself is starting to rot his brain.

-Vince says he's here to announce a new GM of Monday Night Raw, and he says after much deliberation he's not going to announce the new General Manager of Raw. He will allow someone else to do it. He says when opportunity knocks, you have to seize it. He says when someone gives you an offer you can't refuse, no matter what, don't refuse it. He announces that he is SELLING MONDAY NIGHT RAW!?!?! This could either be incredible, or terrible. Lawler asks who he sold it to, and he says he'll make his announcement right after the match.

ECW Championship: Christian vs. Tommy Dreamer ©
So the WWE Title match is in roughly 10-15 minutes, and this one is on now? Getting them all out of the way early, huh? Christian hits a spinning heel kick for one, and then Tommy is back with a neckbreaker for one of his own. Christian hits a back elbow off the second rope for two, and then throws Tommy to the floor. Springboard crossbody from Christian off the second rope all the way to the floor connects, and he rolls Tommy back inside for one. They show the graphic stating 10 minutes until the WWE title match, which is curious considering that we just heard this is one fall to a finish. Christian goes for a DDT, but his thrown away by Tommy who hits an inverted DDT for two. Christian powers Tommy into the corner, but gets hit with a clothesline by Dreamer for two. Christian hits a bicycle kick in the corner, and then goes for a sunset flip off the top for two. Christian slaps Tommy, and heads up top again, but leapfrogs Tommy. Christian appears to injure his knee on the jump, but goes for the killswitch. Tommy reverses into a back suplex attempt, but Christian flips out. Christian again grabs for his knee, and Tommy small packages him for the pin at just 3:25. Well that was a waste of time.
Winner: STILL ECW Champion-Tommy Dreamer (Pinfall-Small Package *1/4)

-The Bellas and Kelly Kelly talk about who bought Raw, and they discuss possibilities. I feel dumber for having watched them speak.

-Recap of the attack on Batista, and then we get photos of his surgery.

Vacant WWE Championship Fatal Four Way Match: Randy Orton vs. The Big Show vs. John Cena vs. Triple H
Again, the placement of this match has me worried. Hell about a third of the audience won't tune in until its half over. Guess who pairs off with who? Yeah, big shock. HHH chases Orton to the floor, while Show attacks Cena in the corner. HHH clotheslines Orton into the timekeeper table, as Show throws Cena to the floor. HHH gets in the ring, and faces off with Show as we head to commercial. Back from break with Orton stomping HHH in one corner, and Show choking out Cena in his corner. Orton misses a knee drop on HHH, and rolls to the floor while Show charges into the boot of Cena. HHH hits a facebuser on Show, and the baby faces hit Show with a series of clotheslines. Flying shoulderblock by Cena sends Show to the floor leaving HHH and Cena in the ring together. They staredown, and lockup with HHH hitting a shoulderblock. Cena comes back with a pair of flying shoulderblocks, and a protoplex. Cena goes for the five knuckle shuffle, but runs into a spinebuster. HHH goes for the pedigree, but Cena counters into an Attitude Adjustment. HHH slides down, and Show is back in with a double clothesline to both guys. Orton slides back in and takes HHH to the floor, and Show hits Cena with a suplex. Orton fires HHH into the ringsteps, and Show pounds away at Cena inside. Cena ducks a right hand and goes for a slam, but Show collapses on Cena. Orton makes the save at two, and then bails from an angry Show. Show goes for a chokeslam on both HHH and Cena, but they block it and deliver a double suplex instead. Orton slides in and takes out both faces, and then goes for a punt on Show. Show catches the foot, and then fires Orton to the corner delivers a series of fists and a chop. Clotheslines meet all three guys, and he follows with headbutts for everyone. Show piefaces Orton over the top rope, and then picks up Cena with a bodyslam. Show goes for the Vader Bomb which connects, but Orton is in to make the save at two. Show casually fires Orton outside, and then turns around with a spear to HHH getting a two count. If you're scoring at home a spear by Edge finishes matches, but a spear by Show is just a near fall. Oooookay. Show goes for the Vader Bomb on HHH, but comes up empty as HHH moves. Orton slides inside and goes for the RKO on Show, but gets thrown away. HHH hits a pedigree on Show, but Cena then hits the Attitude Adjustment on HHH. Cena covers Show and gets a two count, but then hits the Attitude Adjustment on Show. Orton makes the save, and fires Cena shoulder first into the ringpost. RKO by Orton connects and that finishes things at 11:15 giving Orton his fifth WWE Title. Wow, didn't see that coming. I'm still not sure he leaves Raw tonight Champion for some reason. Match was absolutely tremendous. The shortened time frame allowed for near constant action, and an absolutely frenetic finishing sequence.
Winner: NEW WWE Champion-Randy Orton (Pins Show-RKO ***3/4)

-Vince McMahon is out to announce the new owner of Raw. Vince says tonight he comes to us with a heavy heart, and he's done a lot of soul searching. He says at this stage of his career he's made the right decision to sell Monday Night Raw. He says it will be independently owned and operated by a man who he has a personal history with. He says he's been compensated in overwhelming fashion, and introduces via satellite the new owner of Monday Night Raw…DONALD TRUMP?!?! Trump says he is now the sole owner of Monday Night Raw, and tonight he will do something that has never been done before or seen before. The crowd is shitting all over this. Trump says its time WWE Universe got something back, and his first act is to do something that has never been done before. Next week Raw will be presented commercial free. Vince thinks he's lost his mind, but Trump says he's going to be at Raw next week to oversee things. Vince wants to give his farewell address, but he's too emotional to do that now so that will be next week. Vince says he's still in charge tonight, and we will see a 10 man battle royal to see who faces Orton at The Bash. Well you people didn't want Flair, and you didn't get Flair…you got worse. I can't quite put in to words how fucking stupid that was. Does this mean that Trips will be marrying Ivanka now?

Mickie James vs. Rosa Mendes
Rosa asks Beth to let her come out on her own for this one. Maryse comes out to get a closer look. Mickie delivers a series of forearms at the outset, and heads to the top rope but Rosa bails to the floor. Mickie pulls her to the apron by her hair, but Rosa drops Mickie down on the top rope. Rosa comes in with a spinning neckbreaker for two, and then rubs Mickie's face in the mat. Rosa chokes out Mickie on the second rope, and grabs a reverse chinlock. Mickie comes out of that with a forearm, and then sidesteps a charge from Rosa in the corner. A trio of jumping clotheslines connects for Mickie which she follows with a low dropkick for two. Rosa comes back with a knee to the mid section, but Mickie is right back with the jumping DDT which picks up the victory at 2:49. Maryse starts to get in the ring, but thinks better of it.
Winner: Mickie James (Pinfall-DDT *)

-Goldust and Hornswoggle are shooting t-shirts into the crowd as we return from break. Miz interrupts the fun, and says he has a message for Donald Trump. Miz says if he is really sure about taking Raw to the next level then the new face of Monday Night Raw is The Miz. He says John Cena is a face of the past, and says he is the moneymaker of the present and future. He says he'd back up everything he said about Cena and he did. Cena was laid unconscious in the middle of the ring, and tonight he will throw him over the top rope and earn a WWE Championship match at The Bash. He says he won't stop at the championship. He wants it all. He wants his face to be on anything and everything, and we will be eating it up and begging for more. He asks why Horny and Goldust are still in the ring, and Goldust says he's been watching him try to play mind games with Cena. Goldust asks where his imagination is, and where his creativity. He says he once gave Ahmed Johnson mouth to mouth to get in his head, and all Miz does is run his. He says "Cena bad, I'm awesome" mockingly and says he should change his name from Miz to whiz. He says when he talks that's what everyone gets up to do. Hornswoggle whispers to Goldust that the real reality check is that Miz is a loser. Miz tells Goldust he's in no position to tell him how to succeed in this business. He asks if this is his fourth or fifth go around in WWE. He says Goldust was fun in 1999, but he's irrelevant right now. He tells him now he's a t-shirt shooting sideshow. He says he'd beat Goldust down now, but no one would care. He says he's going to show Trump that unlike Cena he's not afraid to take risks. He attacks Goldust, and then steals the t-shirt gun from Hornswoggle. He tells Horny to get on his knees, and then shoots him in the nuts from point blank range with the t-shirt gun.

-Josh Mathews is with CM Punk who has "MISAWA" written on his wrist tape. Nice gesture. He says a year ago he was on Raw, and when he cashed in on Edge everyone loved him for it. Instead he cashed in on Jeff so he's supposed to have some morality crisis. He says luckily for him most of the WWE Universe agrees with him, but a very vocal minority agrees doesn't like it. Matt Hardy interrupts to tell him not to regret anything he did, and if he had the chance he'd do the same thing. Punk buries him saying that would be hard considering he's never won MITB, and never been a World Champion once let alone twice. He tells Matt they're not friends and not to come in here and empathize with him. Great promo from Punk as he continues to walk that tweener line.

World Heavyweight Championship Triple Threat Match: Edge vs. Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk ©
Mixed reaction for Punk which is to be expected, as Hardy is definitely the crowd favorite in his home state. Hardy attacks Punk at the bell, and throws him head first into Edge. Each guy hits quick roll ups for two apiece, and then Punk clotheslines Edge to the floor. Punk hits a suicide dive on Edge, but Hardy comes out with a tope taking out both guys. Hardy covers Punk back in the ring for two, but then charges into a boot in the corner. Punk hits a clothesline for two, and then a quick elbow drop gets another two. Punk grabs a reverse chinlock, but Edge is back in with big boots for both guys. Edge fires Hardy to the floor, and covers Punk for a two count. Edge delivers a pair of forearms, and then fires Punk into the turnbuckle. Edge sets Punk up on the top rope, and then goes up for a superplex. Hardy catches Edge and throws him back to the mat before heading up for a superplex attempt of his own. Edge picks up Hardy off the ropes, and he and Punk go for a doomsday device. Hardy ducks the clothesline from Punk and rolls up Edge for a two count. Hardy and Edge both hit Punk with a clothesline and with that we head to commercial. Back from break with Punk delivering a series of elbows to Edge. Punk hits a kneelift, and then a spinning heel kick as Hardy lays on the floor. Hardy rolls back in, but gets hit with a running knee from Punk. Running knee connects to Edge, and then a running bulldog connects to Edge with a clothesline to Hardy at the same time. Punk covers both for two counts, and then picks up Hardy for the GTS. Edge breaks that up with a chop block, and then locks in the sharpshooter on Punk. Hardy grabs a sleeperhold on Edge while he still has the sharpshooter locked on Punk. Edge finally releases the sharpshooter, and Hardy covers Edge for a two count when Punk makes the save. Hardy gets whipped to the corner, but then Edge whips Punks into Hardy. Edge charges into a sunset flip from Punk which is aided by a Hardy clothesline. Hardy breaks up the count, and then hits a dropkick to both men with a cover to Punk for two. Punk comes back with a counter kick on Hardy, and then goes for a suplex on Edge from the apron. Hardy slides to the floor and pulls Edge down sending Punk to the mat. Hardy goes for the swanton, but gets shoved off the top by Edge who slides inside. Edge charges with the spear, but runs into a powerslam by Punk for a two count. Punk goes for the GTS on Edge, but he slides down the back and shoves Punk into Hardy. Punk goes for the GTS on Hardy, but lets him go and Edge spears Hardy. Edge covers, but Punk makes the save. Punk delivers a pair of forearms to Edge, and then goes for the running knee which is ducked by Edge who sends Punk over the top to the floor bashing his knee against the ringsteps. That looks like it might be a legit injury. Trainers are out to check on Punk, as Hardy and Edge do a double knockout spot inside. Hardy hits the whisper in the wind on Edge, but Punk slides in to make the save. Hardy rolls outside and works over the injured leg thus guaranteeing the injury is a work. Hardy slides back in and gets a small package from Edge for two. Hardy hits the twist of fate, and heads to the top for the swanton on Edge. Punk makes the save pulling Hardy to the floor and firing him into the ringstep. Punk rolls in and covers Edge picking up the win at 15:38. Assuming that injury was a work this was tremendous booking as Punk is now out opportuning the opportunist. Incredible match.
Winner: STILL World Heavyweight Champion-CM Punk (Pins Edge-Swanton by Hardy ****)

-Teddy Long comes out to announce that Punk's next title defense will be at The Bash one on one with Jeff Hardy.

The Hart Dynasty (w. Natalya) vs. The Colons
Dibiase and Rhodes are out on commentary for this one, and it appears the Legacy budget has been increased as they have new music and finally have t-shirts for both of them. Of course Cody's is sleeveless, but beggers can't be choosers. They announce a Tag Title match between Legacy and The Colons at the Bash. Smith starts with Primo and hits a shoulderblock, and then whips him into the corner. Primo botches a hurracanrana out of the corner, and then hits a low dropkick. Kidd crucifixes Primo around the rope, and that distraction allows Smith to hit a dropkick. Smith grabs a reverse chinlock, and then misses a second rope legdrop attempt. Tag to Carlito who springboards in with a clothesline. Smith ducks a clothesline, but gets hit with a springboard back elbow. Kidd makes the save at two, but then gets pulled to the floor by Primo who goes over the top rope after him. Smith goes for a running powerslam, but Carlito slides down the back and delivers a backcracker. That looks to finish, but Legacy runs in for the DQ instead at 2:23. Legacy delivers the quickest beatdown in recorded history, and fire the Colons outside.
Winners: The Colons (Disqualification-Outside Interference *)

-Earlier tonight Vince McMahon won his second straight Gooker award from Wrestlecrap.

-Santino is with Vince McMahon, and Vince says he came into his office to tell him something and wants to know what it is. Santino wants to know if they all still have jobs. He says what if there was a superstar who had a twin sister who everyone thought was the same person? Vince says Donald Trump might like his sister, but Vince will have no influence. Vince's phone rings (with No Chance in Hell ringtone) and its Trump. He wants to make an announcement tonight right after the battle royal. Vince says if there is one thing he can't stand it's a billionaire with a massive ego. Santino mumbles under his breath that he must hate himself. Then he tries to cover his tracks by saying next to Trump Vince isn't even that rich. He then tries various ways of making up to no avail.

10 Man Number One Contender Battle Royal-Participants: Ted Dibiase, Cody Rhodes, Montel Vontavious Porter, Matt Hardy, William Regal, Kofi Kingston, The Miz, The Big Show, Triple H, & John Cena
This is kind of like that battle royal on Saturday Night's Main Event right before Wrestlemania III that featured Andre The Giant, Hulk Hogan, and 18 guys that didn't matter. Here its Cena and Trips playing the roles of Hogan and Andre. Hercules won that battle royal though, so maybe we're in for a surprise. Since its his second appearance of the evening Triple H gets to use his alternate theme. Sadly Cena doesn't answer with Thugganomics. Wait for it…wait for it…BIG BRAWL TO START! Show destroys Miz with a few chops, as Orton strolls out to take a closer look. If you've seen one of these you've seen them all. Everyone pairs off and hangs out on the top rope. Legacy double teams Trips in the corner, as Cena tries to throw out Show with no success. Kofi tries to toss Regal, but is unsuccessful. Miz chokes out Cena in the corner, as Show delivers a thunderous chop to Kofi. Miz and Hardy nearly have Cena eliminated until Show inexplicably makes the save so he can have him. Show starts handing out headbutts and clotheslines to everyone, and finally Hardy thinks better of things sliding to the floor. Show casually picks him up and into the ring, before throwing him right back out. MVP charges with a drive by kick, but goes over the top to the apron. An elbow from Show sends him to the floor and back to the locker room. The remaining six guys team up to toss Show as we head to commercial. Back from break with Cena and HHH both in trouble. Cena fends off Legacy, and HHH fights back against Regal. Legacy regains control over Cena, but Kofi comes over to lend a hand. Cena dumps Cody to the apron, but he is able to roll back inside. Legacy continues the double team on Cena, and Kofi gets some offense on The Game. Kofi hits the ropes, but runs into a high knee from HHH. Legacy surrounds HHH, and Regal goes and works over Cena. Kofi saves Cena again by delivering a back suplex to Regal, and Cena then goes and saves Trips by taking out Legacy. Cody comes back with a series of boots to Cena, and Kofi tries to dump Dibiase. Regal attacks HHH, as Cody comes free of Cena to run across and save Ted. Regal gets a spinebuster from HHH, and with everyone taken out Cena and HHH staredown again. Finally they trade blows in the center with HHH getting the better of things with a knee lift. HHH tries to dump Cena, but Cody puts a stop to that. Cena goes for an Attitude Adjuster to send HHH out, but he is able to slide off and both guys take each other with a clothesline. Back to the midcard portion of the match as Kofi fights off Legacy before getting hit with snake eyes from Dibiase and a double clothesline sends him out. Legacy delivers the gayest high fives you'll ever see before Regal attacks them from behind. They are able to fight him off and toss Regal leaving just HHH, Cena, and Legacy. Rhodes and Cena pair off in one corner with HHH and Dibiase in the other. Rhodes puts Cena down long enough to turn their attention to HHH. Flap jack connects to Cena, and they go back to HHH in the corner. They pound HHH down, but Cena is back with a running bulldog to Dibiase. Clothesline connects to Rhodes, and then a fisherman suplex to Dibiase. Cena connects with a backdrop to Cody, and then he is able to fire Dibiase over the top to the floor. Cena throws out Cody, but he skins the cat and comes back in. HHH casually clotheslines him out to leave just him and Cena. Cena goes for the AA, but its countered by HHH into a Pedigree. Legacy runs back in to attack HHH, but get thrown out by the officials. Finally MIZ EMERGES FROM UNDER THE RING. He was never eliminated!!! I got excited for a second, but then quickly came to my sense as Miz attacks with a running fail and goes right over the top rope to the floor. HHH then throws out Cena to win the match and set up Orton-HHH part 9180189015893049 to the delight of absolutely no one at 17:37. Trump comes on and says the Orton-HHH match will not be at The Bash, but next week on Raw in a last man standing match. Well that's great, but does anyone realize that Raw still doesn't have a main event for the pay per view? You know that show people PAY you to see? Oh well, as far as battle royals go this one was pretty good, but that's not saying much.
Winner: Triple H (last eliminates Cena **1/2)

-Have you ever heard the saying that "The sum is greater than its parts?" Well this show was the opposite of that. Judged on its own independent of everything else going on this was a great show. Three terrific matches, and a fourth that wasn't too shabby either is all you can ask for on television. However as far as the overall direction of the show, and what was expected out of this show in particular it was a huge failure. The Donald Trump thing is one of the dumbest plot twists in history, and can't possibly end well. Hell it didn't even begin well. We get HHH-Orton for the title AGAIN in a feud that in no way NEEDS the title. MVP and Miz, the two guys who it appears some effort is being put into both looked like chumps in the battle royal. All in all a huge chance to start things going in the right direction misfired BIG TIME tonight.


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Only $4 - Every Day.

Posted By: Quiznos' Ciabatta (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
commence never watching raw ever again comments now!.........

Posted By: Guest#8648 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM

 
 
wow what a great chance they had there with The Miz, to the point where I said "YESSSS" when he snuck up from under the ring, oh well. Good matches on this show, hhh/orton I could care less for though

Posted By: cj (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM

 
 
Was I the only one who saw "Trump" and thought for a moment that Owen Hart had come back from the dead?

Meanwhile, what's with Christian - did he pull a Sid Light? Was it just an excuse to cut the match short? Don't tell me he's going to be injured for the next 30 days...


Posted By: ThatDonGuy (Registered)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM

 
 
really thought we would see a mvp vs. orton at the bash

Posted By: Guest#4041 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:25 PM

 
 
Boring Boring Boring!

They could have made this 3 hour show into 2... between the Batista beatdown/HHH return replays & Trump News recaps ... this show was probably an hour... sucked balls....


Posted By: BlueOyster (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:25 PM

 
 
WOW way to totally ruin an ending to raw once again. HHH back in the title hunt for the billionth time. WHO THE HELL CARES! THIS IS NOT NEWS ITS OLDS. Donald Trump "in charge" of Raw sounds like a desperate attempt at quality and ratings. I did not watch raw i read the recap. SD is still better!

Posted By: guest1228 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:27 PM

 
 
what a great raw i loved it good work wwe but donald trump that is so bullshit lol vince would do that lol why would he need more money doesnt he make aenough already lol and triple h v orton what with the hate everyone LMS 4+ stars could be and its commercial free should be awesome

Posted By: Guest#7644 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:28 PM

 
 
HHH is honestly the most played out character. I don't mind having somebody stay at the top, but he literally hasn't changed his character, other than between an angry and joking demeanor. He has feuded with everybody in the main event, but nobody in the upper mid card. Even if he is the champion, we could try throwing some fresh feuds his way for the title, with say MVP or The Miz, at least than we wouldn't be bored to death. Frustrating.

Posted By: SFG (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:28 PM

 
 
What's next, Vince is going to sell Smackdown and ECW to Martha Stewart? Seriously, this isn't fun anymore.

Posted By: Joe (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:28 PM

 
 
I enjoyed the three way for the title, but I don't think it was four stars.

Posted By: D-Steak (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:29 PM

 
 
Jericho d. Mysterio was ***1/2

The Orton/Cena confrontation was good but Cena joke was a little tame.

Dreamer d. Christian was *1/2 as it needed maybe an extra 5 mins to get it close to ***

Randy Ortons wins the WWE TITLE(YES! Fuck all dem haters) ***1/2 it was exciting and i liked the flow and booking of the match and i was on the edge of my seat.

Vince sells RAW- FANTASTIC, why? Because believe or not Trump=Ratings, Trump=Dollars but they might be going a bit over the top with next weeks RAW, in others words the ratings better be in the 4 or 5's for this to be successful.

Mickie d. Rosa *1/4

Miz/Goldust/Hornswoggle segment was funny and i liked it.

CM Punk retains title **** it was a great match, with tremendous booking.

Colons/Harts 1/4*, note nice to see Legacy beat down someone without looking weak. Also nice to see Rhodes beat on Cena without being pushed to the side or buried. Nice new entrance music too.

HHH wins! **3/4 good battle royal, but the result was never in question.

Trump announces Orton/HHH in a last man standing. Should be good because of No Mercy 07, and like i said before Vince wants better ratings. Also i hope we see Cena/Orton or Cena/HHH/Orton at the Bash because Cena and Orton have good chemistry

Overall- Great matches finally from RAW, A publicity stunt and for the first time i feel like RAW is going somewhere although the Trump angle may not end well.


Posted By: Ian (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:29 PM

 
 
Oh come ON? A one on one championship match for free on raw next week and you're bitching about it? With you'r justification being that it takes away from PPV buys? WTF man. Just sit down, shut up, and enjoy that we finally get a one on one main event and not some retarded tag match.

Posted By: Anthony (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:29 PM

 
 
I only tuned in for the SD matches. This show is gonna make people who usually only watch RAW watch SD. I watched the end and was fraking out when they said Miz wasnt eliminated. If theyre gonna give it away next week, they might as well've given the spot to Miz or MVP, whos proven to actually be able to put on a way better match with Orton than HHH. Last Man Standing? whoppee.

And God, do they want RAW to be cnaceled? Tump? Hes not relevant anymore. Let me guess, Miss California will be the GM of RAW.

At this point, I only watch RAW to catch glimpses of Maryse, Miz and Hardy.


Posted By: CL (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:30 PM

 
 
Raw has sucked ever since the Draft. I've been loving Smackdown week in and week out, but Raw is just getting so stale and boring. There are two shining lights on the show right now for me: MVP and The Miz. The Miz has been getting a lot of screen time each week, which is great, but MVP isn't getting the push he needs right now.

MVP needs a high profile, long running storyline/feud to make him a legit main-eventer in the fans eyes, the same way they made Jeff Hardy by having him work a huge program with HHH in 2008. By the end, not only was Jeff even more popular than ever, but he's now one of the top 5 performers in the entire company, and most importantly, the audience BELIEVES and BUYS him as a Main Event attraction.

It needs to be HBK or HHH to do it, but one of them needs to work a major storyline with MVP to help make him into one of RAW's biggest stars, and then hopefully breathe some new life into its horrifyingly FAMILIAR Main Event scene.


Posted By: Se7en17 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:31 PM

 
 
CM Punk is a bitch.. end of story

Posted By: Guest#3556 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:34 PM

 
 
vintage predictable raw. in predictable i mean who won wwe championship and who is #1 contender.

It would of been a huge surprise if big show won and MVp won battle royal


Posted By: catsa (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:37 PM

 
 
basic iwc "logic" shit on something before it even starts. it was a great show if you weren't trying to get yourself over, you'd realize that.

Posted By: Guest#0549 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM

 
 
Randy Bortin is the champ of Raw. I'm glad we have ECW and Smackdown. Raw and TNA both suck right now.

Posted By: iomis (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:41 PM

 
 
Miz getting back into the ring was one of those moments were I actually sat forward and gave it my full attention. It was a split second later I realized what was going to happen. Silly me for actually getting excited.

I would have preferred Cena winning over Triple H. They could build monuments to Hunter's ego.


Posted By: banging head against wall (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:44 PM

 
 
thought you were being too critical there, but hell, three fantastic matches couldnt save the travesty that was Donald Trump.

Oh god, he's gonna say, "you're fired" to someone, isnt he? And how the children will laugh.


Posted By: christy (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:45 PM

 
 
"Legacy delivers the gayest high fives you'll ever see"

Were the really that bad?


Posted By: Legacy (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:45 PM

 
 
I thought Umaga was fired from the WWE, So why was he in the battle royal tonight? Oh wait, that was Matt Hardy

Posted By: Marty (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:45 PM

 
 
I DO understand why Trump was brought in...another desperate stab at making non-wrestling fans tune in.

However, it is still moronic and only the crowd's hilarious bawling over it not being Flair saved my kitten from being killed when "Donald" came off Vince's lips.

So Legacy got put into the match to ensure that Triple H didn't win, so they eliminate all the midcarders while ignoring Triple H? Good work there, guys.

I am with McNew here in that they cannot bring RAW out of the crapper if they treat their up-and-comers like crap. Jobber elimination for MVP, jobber elimination for Miz, jobber elimination for Matt Hardy, and no real spotlight for any of the other midcarders either.


Posted By: The Glide (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:47 PM

 
 
My favorite part of the whole thing was when Cena would stare down triple h and try to get the crowd going, only nobody gave a damn...

Posted By: Nathaniel (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:50 PM

 
 
Most disjointed Raw I can ever remember. Perfect example is the SmackDown ad running in the commercial gap in the match- excellent.

And what's with Christian/Dreamer getting so little time?


Posted By: DL (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:50 PM

 
 
Donald Trump running Raw? UBER FAIL!

Posted By: Guest#6273 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:51 PM

 
 
The WWE Title match was awesome, for awhile there i was really dumb enough to think that they might just let Big Show win it but alas, it wasnt to be and he ended up being jobbed like a sucka taking EVERY finisher. As much as I love Orton and HHH i'm tired of seeing the 2 of them battle for the belt and i hate Cena, i really wanted Show to win.

Posted By: ShowTimeSince79 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:53 PM

 
 
STOP JOBBING REGAL!!!!!!!

Posted By: FUZEY (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:57 PM

 
 
I was going to watch RAW next week until I found out about HHH vs Orton for the 3rd time in a last man standing match and overall match for the 10^100th time.

Posted By: barley96 (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:57 PM

 
 
weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak weak.

fucking weak.


Posted By: el duce (Guest)  on June 15, 2009 at 11:58 PM

 
 
A great Raw for a change. Unfortunately next week look to be back to suckeditude.

Posted By: Dickie Ng Is A Stalker (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM

 
 
Yeay a new Owner in Donald Trump. I still love McMahon but its just RAW he sold to him.
Only guy who could afford to buy.


Posted By: Dickie Runne (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:08 AM

 
 
how dumb of me to actually get excited about the fact that the wwe might actually have someone else other then triple h win... what was i thinking?

Posted By: ... (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:11 AM

 
 
Donald freakin Trump?????????????
Cuz it worked out so well the last time he was involved?
I swear that the powers that be in professional wrestling are all screwed outta their minds because this shit is horrific.
I would take a Southwest Championship Wrestling show from the 80's over this crap any day of the week.


Posted By: Guest#5055 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:12 AM

 
 
Donald Trump is the new GM of RAW tonight....bank on it

-Mysterious

Posted By: MYSTERIOUS (Guest) on June 15, 2009 at 08:05 PM

How the hell did you know and who is this?


Posted By: Guest#0060 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:15 AM

 
 
Smackdown outperformed Raw on its own show.

Just goes to show which one is the real A-Show.


Posted By: Guest#3834 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:18 AM

 
 
Only $4 - Every Day.

Posted By: Quiznos' Ciabatta (Guest) on June 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM
-----------------------------------------
Yea and the torpedo is $4 too you know.


Posted By: Kent Buck (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:18 AM

 
 
So if Trump "owns" Raw, shouldn't WWE move Raw to its own site separate from WWE.com. Oh, and also, did I miss something or isn't Night of Champions supposed to be the next PPV?

Posted By: Sean (guest) (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:20 AM

 
 
Never watching Raw again....again best matches are from...SMACKDOWN!!

Posted By: Me (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:22 AM

 
 
Oh come ON? A one on one championship match for free on raw next week and you're bitching about it? With you'r justification being that it takes away from PPV buys? WTF man. Just sit down, shut up, and enjoy that we finally get a one on one main event and not some retarded tag match.

Posted By: Anthony (Guest) on June 15, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Wasn't complaining at all. Just pointing out that the pay per view still doesn't have a main event, and next week is the go home show.


Posted By: Robbymac (Registered)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:22 AM

 
 
Hey, next year's challenge on The Celebrity Apprentice: "Create a new Title Feud!"

Posted By: Guest#3102 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:23 AM

 
 
basic iwc "logic" shit on something before it even starts. it was a great show if you weren't trying to get yourself over, you'd realize that.

Posted By: Guest#0549 (Guest) on June 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Maybe thats why I said it was a great show?


Posted By: Robbymac (Registered)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:24 AM

 
 
Jeff Gass sent along the following:

CM Punk was limping big time going backstage when they were off camera. Two medics were with him the whole time.


Posted By: Me V.2 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:24 AM

 
 
For the first time since the Flair Build to last years Wrestlemania, there was a build to something that not only I waited to see, but wanted to with the Vince/Suprise thing. About the biggest compliment I can lend is that it was a well hidden and somewhat logical deal(more money than Vince, etc,)

But thats about the size of it. To demonstrate Vince's ego, he'd never put a "performer" over like he put Trump over, who you can more see he considers his own "equal". Talk about being a mark for yourself, in the context of this show, not only are the performers his equal, they are his physical superior, but not only does this 60 year old take out three ripped 25 year olds, but he's got billion dollar business accumen.

And worse yet, as mentioned, the worst part of this angle was the sheer ineptitude of Trump. He's just not strong on the Stick and the whole live/pretaped thing was so woefully underrehearsed it was embarsasing.

I don't know that Bischoff or Heyman would get involved agains, and there is a been there/done that element to them, but if Vince ever spent that much time getting either one of them over, it would be all the stronger for the company.

The main event scene continues to suck, and the burial of Jericho in a midcard feud on smackdown is not only stupid, but its bad business.

Cena might move Merch with the 3rd graders, but a sustained push of Jericho would mean ratings.


Posted By: Marty Funkhowser (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:27 AM

 
 
Anybody catch when during the tag match Dibiase said "more better" and Cole, like an idiot, called him out on it? Then Dibiase couldn't think of a retaliation, so he came off looking foolish and a pussy. If he is as badass as the WWE wants us to think, he should have given him a dream street right there through the announcer's table.

Cole needs to realize he is there to get everyone else over, not to show them up.


Posted By: D-Steak (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM

 
 
so wait a minute the guys who failed to win the fatal four way got a second chance in the battle royal.uttercrap

Posted By: Guest#1925 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:41 AM

 
 
Yah, I really don't get it, other than Vince gonna have to his revenge at Summerslam to 'own' RAW again in some fashion and get even with Trump.

Otherwise, it sucked. Good matches from Rey Rey and Jericho, Edge v Hardy v Punk delivered (with a Hardy rematch!!), and Orton wasn't unexpected to win....

But....

The crap starts with the battle royale. MVP tossed like a chump. Matt Hardy tossed first. MIZ tossed out like yesterday's tuna. 3 guys you should be pushing to the upper midcard and/or main event, and got buried for the same old shit of Cena, Show, Triple H, and Randy Orton. Legacy also looked like crap other when they were doing 2:1 beatdowns.

Fuck all this, just a dumb, dumb show.

~Paul


Posted By: Guest#8987 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:42 AM

 
 
I can see it now: Trump vs. Vince (well, by proxy) - Winner Gets All Rights To "You're Fired".

Posted By: ThatDonGuy (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:43 AM

 
 
"But thats about the size of it. To demonstrate Vince's ego, he'd never put a "performer" over like he put Trump over, who you can more see he considers his own "equal". Talk about being a mark for yourself, in the context of this show, not only are the performers his equal, they are his physical superior, but not only does this 60 year old take out three ripped 25 year olds, but he's got billion dollar business accumen."

Ummmm...Stone Cold...or did you miss the entire Attitude era?


Posted By: MydniteSon (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:43 AM

 
 
I somehow thought that Big Show looked especially great tonight.

I take it that they were attempting to do a Hogan/Warrior spot with the HHH/Cena double clothesline? Too bad a grand total of 15 people went wild, then again that's more than the amount that was happy to see Trump.

Pretty good Raw otherwise.


Posted By: STAYMATIC (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:48 AM

 
 
RAW IS WAR ONCE AGAIN!

Posted By: Tumar Unmebalsac (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:51 AM

 
 
RAW just sucks ass right now. It's stale. The main event is stale. Smackdown is definitely the show to watch right now. The Triple Threat WHT match was probably the match of the night. CM Punk sold the hell out of that. Orton should be taking notes. And if Punk was legitimately injured, I respect him even further for being able to continue the match. Hell ECW is more watchable than RAW is right now.

1) They need to pull the trigger on the Miz/Cena feud. Miz comes out week after week and taunts Cena and Cena ignores him almost completely, treating hims as a total non-threat. They need Miz to really fuck his shit up and get this feud into full gear and run it/milk it for while. 2) They need to give DiBiase and Rhodes personalities further than simply being Randy's Boy Toys. Seriously, they should just rename Legacy "Randy and the Or-Tones". 3) HHH, who I'm not afraid to say I am a big fan of, doesn't need to be near the title scene. Like Shawn Michaels, he's at the stage in his career where he doesn't need the title. They're above it. But, as posted by someone earlier, HHH or Michaels should be working a program with MVP and working to get him over. MVP should stay face for now, and work against HHH as he's still believable as heel. Like Flair, Michaels can't work heel anymore...crowds will not boo him.
Or shit...just hire the Smackdown booking/writing team. They seem to know what they are doing.
Just my 2 cents.


Posted By: MydniteSon (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:58 AM

 
 
Fun show until HHH won AGAIN sooo we get Orton/HHH 324325335.

Don't know why people are shitting on Trump... is it a publicity stunt? Yes... but does it give the future of the show a new dynamic and make things feel unpredictable.. yes.... give the guy a chance... then shit on him.

Smackdown triple threat rocked. Loving the CM Punk angle, its the most interesting his character has been since entering the WWE.


Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:01 AM

 
 
"But thats about the size of it. To demonstrate Vince's ego, he'd never put a "performer" over like he put Trump over, who you can more see he considers his own "equal". Talk about being a mark for yourself, in the context of this show, not only are the performers his equal, they are his physical superior, but not only does this 60 year old take out three ripped 25 year olds, but he's got billion dollar business accumen."

Ummmm...Stone Cold...or did you miss the entire Attitude era?



True, but Bill Clinton was still in office then. Ten years later and half the ratings today, not a coincidene in my book. But Austin is a fair example.


Posted By: Marty Funkhowser (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:06 AM

 
 
Oh I forgot to mention....

They gave away the end of the 3way in the commercial break saying Punk retained and whats next for him on Smackdown?

That was just awful...

~Paul


Posted By: Guest#4574 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:14 AM

 
 
DONALD TRUMP?!?! ... I can't quite put in to words how fucking stupid that was.
-===============

No, sorry, you don't get a free pass. Put it into words. Why is it stupid? Go ahead, hotshot. Explain.


Posted By: MDK (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:15 AM

 
 
"Yah, I really don't get it, other than Vince gonna have to his revenge at Summerslam to 'own' RAW again in some fashion and get even with Trump."

Posted By: Guest#8987 (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 12:42 AM



Wouldn't logic have you think that all the RAW "superstars" are still under contract with the WWE, owned by Vince, and Vince could simply have them not appear on RAW?


Posted By: Guest#1947 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:18 AM

 
 
I seriously hate raw, Snortin' Orton is champion again how fucking gay.

Posted By: what the shit (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:20 AM

 
 
If this RAW "sale" to Donald Trump actually proves popular with the fans, which has the same odds of happening as a new tag team of Chris Benoit jr and the dancing WWF scratch logo debuting in the WWE, then expect Superstars to be sold to Sha-Na-Na founding member John "Bowzer" Bauman in a cross-promotion for his Time-Life 50 and 60 music cd infomercials and ECW to be sold to former American Gladiator Nitro in a cross promotion for his new book detailing his steroid abuse

Posted By: Guest#6138 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:25 AM

 
 
Just imagine if it was a three hour Smackdown. Seriously, Donald Trump? Vince is losing his god damn mind and someone needs to take the book away from him. This has mistake written all over it, but maybe they can turn it into something. Look at Vickie Guerrero.

HHH vs Orton... again. WWE could have been creative and different and given someone like Big Show the title. HHH and Orton are involved in a fued that has ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORLD TITLE. It's not important at all, and the fued ran it's course months ago. How infuriating.

That said, the matches and promos were fantastic for tonight, but one of them was from Smackdown, and the booking says that they are heading into disaster territory.


Posted By: Banz (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:29 AM

 
 
Did you know...?

That more right handed people watched Raw this week than left handed people!


Posted By: Laura (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:40 AM

 
 
Hornswoggle getting shot in the nuts, made me laugh so hard, I came buckets.

Posted By: Bunkhouse Buck (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:43 AM

 
 
Dude I laughed so hard when I saw mcnew right that miz attacked with the running fail ha ha omg eleventy billion stars for that single sentence alone

Posted By: the wiz (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:45 AM

 
 
Anybody catch when during the tag match Dibiase said "more better" and Cole, like an idiot, called him out on it? Then Dibiase couldn't think of a retaliation, so he came off looking foolish and a pussy. If he is as badass as the WWE wants us to think, he should have given him a dream street right there through the announcer's table.

Cole needs to realize he is there to get everyone else over, not to show them up.

Posted By: D-Steak (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM

I actually caught that too LOL


Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:46 AM

 
 
I guess I'm the only person who likes the Donald. I dunno, he makes me laugh.

What's up with MVP rocking the Man U jersey? I approve, but in NC of all places? Weird.

Decent show until the ending. I'm among the masses of people bored of Multiple Hs in the title picture. Hell, even my bro who is a casual fan at best is tired of that, and he rarely watches wrestling.

I will be watching the Bash (formerly at the Beach) for the Hardy-Punk match. I won't pay for it, but I'll certainly drive out to the bar to catch it.


Posted By: G-Walla (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:49 AM

 
 
A well deserved 4-stars to the triple threat WHC match. I really like multi-competitor matches, but they sometimes detract from the chemistry between the performers. This match, however, featured fantastic flow, relentless rhythm, and was just plain awesome!

Not surprising that Smackdown featured the best two matches of the night.

The pre-recorded comments from Trump? A new kind of awful, and that is saying a lot, considering the past few months of Raw programming.

Great point about the sum and the parts. I was entertained by the highs, but boy, those were some bottom-scraping lows.


Posted By: CanadianCrippler (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:55 AM

 
 
Gotta love hos the two best matches tonight came from Smackdown..thats whats up bitches!

Posted By: Skiddy (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:15 AM

 
 
Wouldn't logic have you think that all the RAW "superstars" are still under contract with the WWE, owned by Vince, and Vince could simply have them not appear on RAW?

Posted By: Guest#1947 (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 01:18 AM

Logic??????

In wrestling???

Pass me your drugs...

WTF!

~Paul


Posted By: Paul (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:21 AM

 
 
OMG... WWE needs to hire a new creative team, the current roster are having re-runs stuck in there fucked up heads. I mean come on, orton vs H done hella, vince vs Donald already done before.

Posted By: boobs (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:25 AM

 
 
you know sometimes i think the wwe plants whole sections of fans, because how have the fans not turned on this yet? Everyone and their mother bitches about it on the IWC, but then probably go to the live events and join the kids in marking out for evey John Cena and Triple fucking Haitch.
How are people still going crazy for these criss cross mix and match feuds with the same fucking people over and over and over and over again?
How has the crowd not started "Same O'l Shit" chants? How have the live crowds not completely just tore this shit up by now? jesus christ.

i wish there like a band of old school ECW fans that just travel to every RAW event and plant their asses there in the front sections, so we can get those chants across loud and clear on TV and start some kind of fuckin revolution in voicing our opinions besides the interent, cuz obviously here, no one is listening.

Trump may not be the best idea, but it IS a new one and a bit refeshing. Flair would have been stale, everyone knows that and he's already played the authority figure before. in any case, anyone's better than vickie guerrero and trump's got more charisma in that rug that he wears than Vickie had in her ugly mug. Id rather watch his smug ass talk slow and squint than a "wooo!" in triple h's favor or an "excuse me!" im interested to see where this goes, although it probably won't see the end of the year.


Posted By: sour grapes (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:30 AM

 
 
First things first, the only way this whole Trump thing is going to work is if Trump actually puts some heart into it and provides something more than a terrible prerecorded "live" promo. You have no idea how much this bothers me. Vince actually had to repeat a word inorder for the timing to be right. This takes me out instantly of whatever is going on. We will see what happens when Trump is live next week. 2 People looked terrible this week. 1st was the Big Show, he ate a pedigree, a crappy knee drop thing from HHH, an Attitude adjuster for the 50th time in the last month, an RKO, and ate the pin. Im suprised Lillian didn't come in the ring and kick him in the nuts just for good measure. The other person that looked bad out there was Dibiase. Cole of all people calls him out on his grammar. Cole, if only Lawler would call you oout on all your BS week after week. I hope Cole got an ass whooping on the backstage feed, Foley style. But Dibiase had no comeback at all, and looked really foolish, Chris Masters on the mic foolish. As for the people that looked good, Jericho and mysterio pulled off a decent match, Mysterio looks a lot better in there with someone that is at least closer to his size. The setup for the 619 is still lame, in any fashion. Kudos to Vinces suit, have to get me one of those...Rosa Mendes for finally doing something to warrant a pay check. Mickie James needs a new outfit, but wrestled pretty well. Why does the Miz have the same finisher as Mickie James and Maryse? Were they having a special on DDT lessons? Harts and Colons looked good for the limited time they had. I thought MVP had the battle royale wrapped up, but guess not since he was like 2nd to be eliminated. I also got excited about the Miz popping up, mainly because I was upset because I thought they didnt show his elimination on TV, so I was hoping he would pop in as a suprise to eliminate Cena. At least he came back, but then when I saw he was going to run at both of the supermen in the ring, I knew that top rope was coming down and he was out of there. He should have eliminated cena somehow, and continued the "streak" over Cena. But oh well, Orton vs HHH part 23, at least it isn't at the actual pay per view....yet... Decent show, but my main complaint is that the WWE thinks our short term memory is pretty short. Why the thousand recaps? Its bad enough we get the same 3 commercials over and over and over again, seeing the same clips repeated over and over is pretty mindnumbing. So between the sludge commericals and the recps, I was pretty exhausted of the show by nights end. Can we get some more sponsers, somehow, someway, please? Pull the trigger on Miz, and give Show something to do besides lose. Trump, prove me wrong, do it live, do it live.

Posted By: piperfan01 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:39 AM

 
 
Wow.. you couldn't pay me to watch this shit. Although it is fun to read the recap just to laugh at all the fail.

Posted By: poffo316 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 03:36 AM

 
 
I hope Macho Man comes back next week, but i know its gonna be flair

Posted By: Guest#2062 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 03:44 AM

 
 
Fuck you Vince. Another bullshit match Orton vs HHH? Really maybe someone could form a group that chant "Same old shit" next week at Raw?

Posted By: Guest#0157 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 04:31 AM

 
 
I would really love if the E did trades instead of drafts, and they could do this through out the year. If I were smackdown I would trade The great Khali, to Raw for John Morrison; and then trade someone else from smackdown to ecw for Evan Bourn and make smackdown untouchable. I'm dreaming I know.

Posted By: Charleston Chewbaca (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 04:40 AM

 
 
not a hater, but we have just entered an ERA that will define us all. "The Trump Era"

Let's see how many are left standing after this one.


Posted By: looking glass (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 05:08 AM

 
 
I'm expecting this to end BAAAD. and not in a bad blowoff match kind of way. the way where we come on here in 10 days and the headline reads

"WWE AND DONALD TRUMP PART WAYS"


Posted By: new york chili (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 05:09 AM

 
 
WWE hates progress. It would have been so perfect to have had Miz ambush and toss Cena (making him 8-0). Triple H could have eliminated Miz and they'd be right where they are now, only Miz could have actually gained some momentum and advanced the Cena angle. Instead this weeks chapter sees Miz shooting a midget in the nuts with a t-shirt and going all Invasion era Stasiak in the battle royal. Somehow this doesn't really make me buy into his potential ascent beyond the mid-card. Way to make new stars WWE. Pop quiz: which two wrestlers fought for the WWE title on the three consecutive PPVs following Wrestlemania 24 (hint: the same match headlined Wrestlemania 25)? Why do I continue to watch RAW?

Posted By: Beard $ (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 05:34 AM

 
 
Does the Baby Oil Boys Club have a Greatest Hits album out yet?

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 05:44 AM

 
 
My favorite part of the whole thing was when Cena would stare down triple h and try to get the crowd going, only nobody gave a damn...

Posted By: Nathaniel (Guest) on June 15, 2009 at 11:50 PM


Anybody catch when during the tag match Dibiase said "more better" and Cole, like an idiot, called him out on it? Then Dibiase couldn't think of a retaliation, so he came off looking foolish and a pussy. If he is as badass as the WWE wants us to think, he should have given him a dream street right there through the announcer's table.

Cole needs to realize he is there to get everyone else over, not to show them up.

Posted By: D-Steak (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM

Agreed on both counts.


Posted By: PurplePeopleEater (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 05:54 AM

 
 
best thing about raw...hmmm let me think oh yeah smackdown matches

Posted By: Barrman (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:00 AM

 
 
Why didn;t The Miz at least eliminate Cena at the end. It would have salvaged something about of the predictable and boring Triple H win and undoubted dull feud number 672 with Randy.

MVP wearing a Man U top, biggest heel heat ever. Shocking

The first things Donald should do are fire Kelly and the Bellas because they are utterly awful at everything as they demonstrated yet again last night. And then fire Triple H, he's not your son in law so you don't need to keep him around to keep his ego in tact.


Posted By: Axe (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:02 AM

 
 
Triple H in a title match next week...Triple H must banging Donald's daughter, Ivanka.

Posted By: @wrestlingtweets (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:06 AM

 
 
"you know sometimes i think the wwe plants whole sections of fans, because how have the fans not turned on this yet?"

Posted By: sour grapes (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 02:30 AM

Because you and the IWC are not the ones making WWE money. It's a business. It doesn't belong to you. So it will do what is has to in order to survive and continue making money.


Posted By: hmmm (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:10 AM

 
 
I think The Donald is going to be mainly a Via Satellite Owner, making the occassional in-ring appearance. Which sucks cause it'll give viewers the perception that WWE/RAW is B class even for Trump.

He couldn't even make it in person for the announcement. When did McMahan come up with this stroke of creative genius, Trump as RAW owner, fifteen minutes before air time?


Posted By: @wrestlingtweets (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:14 AM

 
 
Another fine example of Vince and family getting too cute and too inside. Stop sitting around and drinking with your friends Vince. Bringing in Trump only brings in short-term ratings. But it drives the real fans away. I am going to Smackdown. WWE seems to forget that most wives give us wrestling fans only one night a week to watch wrestling. I used to watch Mondays. Not anymore. Stop getting cute and stop relying on gimmicky cameo B.S. If you were born after 1987, you could care less about the name Donald Trump. Sure there is The Apprentice, but I can guarantee that most fans of that show are not WWE fans.

Posted By: Adam H (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 07:39 AM

 
 
Paul they said Did Punk retain. Get a DVR so you can rewind this stuff, I thought the smae thing till I double checked.

Trump? Really that was stale and no one is really buzzing. It was boring..

Next week Trump will announce Flair as his GM.


Posted By: T-Mac (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 07:53 AM

 
 
Dude I laughed so hard when I saw mcnew right that miz attacked with the running fail ha ha omg eleventy billion stars for that single sentence alone

Posted By: the wiz (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 07:56 AM

 
 
This show had some of the best stuff Raw has seen in ages...unfortunately, it all came from Smackdown.

This means SMackdown talent will have MADE Raw, Superstars and of course, SMackdown this week.

As for the Raw stuff, it just gets worse and worse. In fairness their title match was good, but it the Raw main event wasn't the MOTN on Raw, which is pretty bad.


Posted By: Quimby (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 08:06 AM

 
 
Hey, I don't know if this aired in all markets, but in Boston, during the first commercial break in the Punk/Edge/Jeff match, a commercial for Smackdown gave away the finish. It said "After defending on Raw" or something like that. Way to make me tune out!!

Posted By: JOEY THUNDER!!!! (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 08:23 AM

 
 
I think its a great idea. Raw is stale. maybe the Trump angle can inject a little life into this "brand extension". Maybe Trump will bring back the WCW brand. Maybe he will make Eric Bischoff GM of WCW Raw. That sounds like a winner to me.

Posted By: FCT (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 08:24 AM

 
 
But commercials are the best part of HHH/Orton matches... :(

Posted By: Guest#1048 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:05 AM

 
 
Eh, well I haven't watched RAW in months, but I'll probably watch a commercial-free one next week, b/c at the very least it sounds interesting..

Posted By: Guest#1667 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:21 AM

 
 
I didn't read it in the report an I didn't read all of the comments.

But all of Trump's dialogue was obviously pre-recorded. The Vince/Trump interaction was poorly staged. Vince's interruptions were poorly timed - there was no real back and forth conversation - it was simply Donald reading lines and Vince trying to "fill in the blanks" to make it look real (it wasn't).

Which makes the final segment so frustrating. Yes, I know that the results were predetermined (Orton winning the title and HHH-M winning the battle royal). But we accept that little bit of reality in order to enjoy the product and production. So when Trump comes on the screen and congratulates Orton and HHH-M - in a pre-recorded message - well that's crossing the line.

One last question to the WWE - if we didn't care about Orton/HHH-M the first few times - what has changed in terms of these characters to make us care now?


Posted By: BobbyC (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:21 AM

 
 
Damn you, Donald Trump!

He beat my bid by only $100.

As soon as Smackdown goes on sale it's mine!


Posted By: JBL (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:22 AM

 
 
what the fucks wrong with you people, good show, if you guys hate wrestling that bad stop watching it.

Posted By: tweeter (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:24 AM

 
 
So, do people actually like Miz? He's so useless. Maybe I can't watch him because he was such a douche on all the reality shows on MTV when he was dreaming of being a wrestler. But I just don't see how anyone can actually like him.

Posted By: David (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:25 AM

 
 
I started watching around 9:15 and here's what I enjoyed:

1. The World Title triple threat
2. Miz/Goldust ( I had JUST said I miss the old Goldust and then referenced how he gave CPR to Ahmed- I marked!). How awesome (and painful looking) was the t-shirt shot to Hornswoggle? Miz is awesome!
3. Colons/Hart Dynasty - I don't get to see ECW because of my schedule so I really marked for the Dynasty's entrance music and the match (while short) was decent.
4. Seeing Miz pull an old heel trick by returning to the battle royal at the end after not being eliminated.

Here's what I disliked:
1. The McMahon/Trump segment
2. HHH winning the battle royal (although I thought it would happen)
3. The crowd - maybe they were deflated because of no Flair but I thought they dead for the show. Two examples: They were dead for Santino/Vince when Santino's always funny and I also thought they were kinda quiet for the entrances during the triple threat.


Posted By: MachoManFanStill (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:37 AM

 
 
"3) HHH, who I'm not afraid to say I am a big fan of, doesn't need to be near the title scene. Like Shawn Michaels, he's at the stage in his career where he doesn't need the title. They're above it. But, as posted by someone earlier, HHH or Michaels should be working a program with MVP and working to get him over. MVP should stay face for now, and work against HHH as he's still believable as heel. Like Flair, Michaels can't work heel anymore...crowds will not boo him."

I firmly believe that HHH's ego is what's keeping him in all of these title runs. He is going to beat Flair's record of 16 World Title's.

His ego is so large, that he NEVER gets pinned in multi-man matches. In the match where Jeff Hardy won his first title, HHH goes down and then rolls out of the ring while Edge eats the pin. Last night Cena give the AA to HHH, yet goes to pin Big Show while HHH rolls out of the ring. Then Orton comes in and gets the pin on Big Show. Hard to believe that Show could be out that long with all that action going on, pure BS!


Posted By: mogamer (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:46 AM

 
 
Wait, wait, wait....

So Morrison has 3-5 great matches recently and they can't fit him into a 3 hour RAW? Yeah, way to do jack shit.


Posted By: WWEsucks (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:50 AM

 
 
I think the only man who can save the state of wrestling right now is mark henry.

Posted By: Pizaro (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:52 AM

 
 
My favorite part of the whole thing was when Cena would stare down triple h and try to get the crowd going, only nobody gave a damn...

Posted By: Nathaniel (Guest) on June 15, 2009 at 11:50 PM

LOL! I absolutely noticed that too. Although, I thought the crowd was kind of dead even for the good parts of the show. Is there anybody from NC that can let us know what was up?!


Posted By: MachoManFanStill (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM

 
 
teddy, did you just say more better? absolutely not.

Posted By: will (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM

 
 
If Trump now owns Raw shouldn't he be drafting up whopping big contracts for Edge, Jeff, Punk, Jericho, Undertaker, Rey and Morrison? He's a billionaire, and he must want his show to be the best. So he has to go and sign the best or the whole thing comes off fake.
Could be an interesting way to end the roster split I guess, but I thought the 'E were a million miles away from actually wanting to end it.
Summer is really becoming the ridiculous season for WWE, two Vince McMahon "deaths", now this.


Posted By: Guest#1094 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:26 AM

 
 
ok....so heres my beef. I like everyone else watching, got super excited when i saw the miz sneak out but immediatly saw when trips and cena were against the ropes ready to pull it down...but heres my thing, sure HHH and orton been done a million times and thats fine..but why not let the miz eliminate cena so they can have a feud finally instead of having miz look like the puppy following around the big dog, and just have HHH eliminate him afterwards? you get the same result but you get to continue a different story line....in closing RAW S*CKS!!!!! heres the order of shows from best to worst(WWE):
SMACKDOWN!
EC DUB
SUPERSTARS
WHACK @SS RAW...believe it.


Posted By: JSavage (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM

 
 
Great matches - you know the ones - wrapped up in a horrible angle. Trump is terrible when interacting face to face. Tonight was bearable because it was pre-recorded, but the man has no idea how to talk, his delivery is always the same, and his theme just makes me cringe every time I hear it.
Awful. Oh, and MVP was eliminated far too early considering they're trying to push the guy.
Considering Raw has all the so-called big stars, the roster seems really thin and stale. Smackdown meanwhile has by far the better blend of talent, and it's talent that has not been seen eleventy billion times together either. In fact, maybe it's not that, maybe it's just the fact that not every Edge/Hardy match is the SAME FUCKING MATCH OVER AND OVER LIKE HHH/ORTON!!!
Anyway, the Bash is free over here in the UK, and I'm really glad it is....I certainly wouldn't pay for a main event made with only 1 weeks build - unless they've got the balls to do Orton/HHH twice!!


Posted By: dennett316 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM

 
 
The only thing worth a crap on this show was the World Heavyweight Championship match. The WWE Champ match was a joke, Trump is a joke, nobody cares about Rey anymore, etc.

Oh well, we've got Smackdown!


Posted By: Dr J (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:49 AM

 
 
what the fucks wrong with you people, good show, if you guys hate wrestling that bad stop watching it.

Posted By: tweeter (Guest)

I like wrestling-- Smackdown I look foward to every week and almost never disappoints! ECW is great wrestling structured around basic storylines & superstars is showcases talent in 20 min matches that would be given 2 mins on RAW so there is nothing wrong with 'us people' but would like a better product from the flagship show of whose PPV's they want us to buy. 3 donald trump recaps & 3 batista beat-downs highlights are the tip of the crap heap on Raw.


Posted By: BlueOyster (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM

 
 
"So, do people actually like Miz? He's so useless. Maybe I can't watch him because he was such a douche on all the reality shows on MTV when he was dreaming of being a wrestler. But I just don't see how anyone can actually like him."

Posted By: David (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 09:25 AM

well for me it's not that I'm a GREAT fan of his, it's just that for a few spilt seconds, I had excitement that he would be eliminating not only Cena but HHH at the same time and that a fresh face would be in the title hunt even if he would've lost to Orton. Like I said, oh well though, hope they follow up with a good show next wk.


Posted By: cj (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM

 
 
Why was MVP wearing a Man Utd top ?

Posted By: dj_bollocks (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:02 PM

 
 
Okay, how many people actually believe Donald Trump bought Raw?

Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM

 
 
"you know sometimes i think the wwe plants whole sections of fans, because how have the fans not turned on this yet?"

Posted By: sour grapes (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 02:30 AM

Because you and the IWC are not the ones making WWE money. It's a business. It doesn't belong to you. So it will do what is has to in order to survive and continue making money.

Posted By: hmmm (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 06:10

don't worry there mark they already crapped on the Trump angle and you can blame the IWC for that one too genius.

Marks so dumb and so easy to make fun of.


Posted By: Guest#8124 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM

 
 
Triple H...Orton...Last Man Standing...AGAIN?!?!....REALLY?

Posted By: bighustle (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM

 
 
To the moron whose saying how great it is they're having a title match on regular tv no its the second week in a row and is leaving the ppv that you're going to pay for without a main event so you sit down shut the f**k up and get out of these board. No one has to be happy to see a match we've seen a billion times both on free tv and ppv. So people don't want to see it again and thats their right to say it so go ahead and keep loving everything thats why people hate tools.

By the way the show wasn't great outside of the world heavyweight title and opener everything else was ok at best.


Posted By: LMAO (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

 
 
"But thats about the size of it. To demonstrate Vince's ego, he'd never put a "performer" over like he put Trump over, who you can more see he considers his own "equal". Talk about being a mark for yourself, in the context of this show, not only are the performers his equal, they are his physical superior, but not only does this 60 year old take out three ripped 25 year olds, but he's got billion dollar business accumen."

Ummmm...Stone Cold...or did you miss the entire Attitude era?

Posted By: MydniteSon (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 12:43 AM

wow 11 years ago and spent the last 10 doing nothing but making people look foolish and having the same guys at the top.


Posted By: Guest#8729 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:51 PM

 
 
i want to see a ring of honor invasion kind of like the one that ecw did back in 97. now THAT would be shocking.

the current product is terrible.


Posted By: el duce (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM

 
 
Dear WWE,

I have an idea. Um, instead of having Donald Trump "buy" Raw to get ratings, put on some good wrestling matches. Mix up the format. A women's match as the second or third match happens waaaaay to often. Mix it up. Have a women's match as maybe the 5th or 6th match.

No more of Miz's loud mouth and his boring promos. Tell him to lose the hat.

Also, PLEEEEAAAAAAASE tell (force) John Cena to do something OTHER THAN, shoulder block, shoulder block, protoplex, you can't see me-fist drop. He did do a back body drop, but the other stuff, HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME IN EVERY MATCH. He had some great matches with Shawn Michaels and very good match with Batista, so I know he has it in him to put on better matches. As Jim Ross would say, "Mr. Cena should, in my opinion, sooner, rather than later, increase his offensive arsenal".

I like John Cena, I really do. But he's got to come up with some more moves.

If Cena doesn't like being shuffled down to the mid-card being put in tag matches and given only a few minutes to wrestle, USING THE SAME OFFENSE ALL THE TIME, and if he wants to win the Championship again, then he needs change how he wrestles.


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:06 PM

 
 
I'm making Raw commercial free to show everyone how crappy the product is. Seriously, Triple H/Orton last man standing? Wasn't that a match that happened at No Mercy '07 and a bunch of other PPVs since? Might as well give it away for free. Commercials are the best thing in Triple H matches, heck even Orton matches. This next week's show reeks of something wicked. Atleast Super Cena isn't main eventing... THANK GOD. If I can be serious for a minute though, RAW sucks and everything about it, thats why they put me in charge. Have fun watching week after week suckers and enjoying crappy shows. The best part of RAW was the non RAW matches and it goes to show you. I'm out, humanoids.

Posted By: The Donald (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:16 PM

 
 
Just how LONG was that Miz garbage with Goldust? A waste of even TEN minutes of my life! I've never seen a more worthless wrestler ever...and I go back MANY years!

When he came from under the ring in the battle royal I feared the worst...at least they didn't have that useless schmuck win. That might have been the last Raw I ever watched.

People have OFTEN said "more wrestling, less talk", but they seem to give Miz a pass on that one. He gets away with "more talk, NO wrestling"! Fickle fans in the IWC...


Posted By: idiot savant (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 01:29 PM

 
 
If you think donald trump really bought raw you are gay

Posted By: Bryan (Guest) (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:29 PM

 
 
Donald Trump bought RAW!! Come on whats next? Bill Gates buys TNA?!!!

Posted By: Jordan (Guest) (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:30 PM

 
 
VINTAGE TRUMP!!!!!

Posted By: Michael Cole (Guest) (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:31 PM

 
 
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2944/miznutshothornswagglefr.gif

Posted By: Hornswaggle's Tea Bags (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:38 PM

 
 
The promos alone on NWA World Championship Wrestling on WWE Classics are better than RAW on a weekly basis now.
....And to think, I was disappointed that I had a class scheduled on Monday nights. Seems like every week, I'm not missing a thing!


Posted By: DHX (Registered)  on June 16, 2009 at 02:58 PM

 
 
I think there really should be some kind of on-screen recognition of whatever editing team is putting together all these amazing recap videos. They are always able to take even the crappiest angles and make them seem epic and incredible. That Legacy/Batista/HHH vid that kicked off the show was amazing; for a second there I actually gave a shit! That's talent.

Posted By: JoB (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 03:46 PM

 
 
That move with Punk going over the turnbuckle hitting his knee(s) on the steps looked really painful and turned up my enjoyment of an already very good match. I thought the injury was real until Hardy started kicking him in the "injured" leg. Anyone know if Punk's okay? That was a nasty fall.

Posted By: MachoManFanStill (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 03:55 PM

 
 
"I think there really should be some kind of on-screen recognition of whatever editing team is putting together all these amazing recap videos. They are always able to take even the crappiest angles and make them seem epic and incredible. That Legacy/Batista/HHH vid that kicked off the show was amazing; for a second there I actually gave a shit! That's talent. "

Posted By: JoB (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 03:46 PM
___________

Seconded. Those guys have turned chicken shit into chicken salad more times than I'd care to count. Unsung heroes, they are.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 04:02 PM

 
 
I literally felt sick to my stomach the moment HHH won the battle royal. He's so overrated.

Posted By: Guest#2039 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 04:24 PM

 
 
Raw was three hours long this week to have more commerciaks to make up for no commercials next week.

Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 04:32 PM

 
 
hhmmmm whats really strange is here everyone shits on hhh and cena but in the arena huge pops. do 1 of 2 things shut the fuck up on here about it or show the same shit in the arenas.

Posted By: Guest#4665 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:09 PM

 
 
Get used to it Triple HHH is the not going to be stop being top dog until he has gone past ric flair and been a 17 time world champion vs flairs 16 time

you know its true


Posted By: Rob (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 06:30 PM

 
 
By not having Miz elimanate Cena not only wasted the whole "Miz in the black hole" angle, but also misses out on some major heat for him, especially since HHH was going to facing Orton again for the millionth time. I'm really hoping that HHH tears ANOTHER quad (steroid related) then they can drop him for being "injury prone", what?? who am I kidding, he would just make his "dramatic" return at Summerslam like every damn year and have another ten PPV string of title shots that barely register on the ** scale

Posted By: I hate WWE "writers" (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 07:48 PM

 
 
i was enjoying raw untill the announce ment of donald trump buying raw, i think that just killed the whole show. i was hoping for the big show to win the wwe championship but even though he didnt he was the star of the match i thought. all in all i think raw is failing badly and they need a roster improvement badly even wit the injuries.

As for the bash goes i think when orton retains the title next monday he will not defend it against triple h at the bash, i think earlier in the night they will have a 3 way between the big show, john cena, and mvp wit the winner facing most likely orton at the bash.

for the raw card at the bash it will look like this

Randy orton defends the wwe title against MVP

John Cena takes on the miz

The Big Show vs Triple H

plus the tag team title match


Posted By: donnie (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 08:44 PM

 
 
2) They need to give DiBiase and Rhodes personalities further than simply being Randy's Boy Toys. Seriously, they should just rename Legacy "Randy and the Or-Tones".

Posted By: MydniteSon (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 12:58 AM

You owe me a new shirt. This one now has soup all over it.


Posted By: crunchman9000 (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:16 PM

 
 
Holy shit piperfan01, when does your paperback come out?

And for people bitching about Raw and how it's formatted, sorry, but it probably won't change any time soon. I don't have evidence to back this up or anything but I'm pretty sure that WWE's making good money (how else do you explain the ginormous bonuses Vince gives himself year after year?).

That means that, yes, while the formula is stale and shitty, it's still make the 'E money. We can bitch about Cena and HHH all we want, but the IWC is not a large majority of where WWE gets its money from. They get it from the people that are going ape-shit over Cena, HHH, Orton, etc. They have no incentive to shake things up unless everybody starts getting fed up with the way things are and that won't happen because there's a sucker born every minute. Cena's only seems to know only five moves and HHH is a spotlight hog that isn't interesting anymore but to the kids WWE is aiming at now, those characters are cool. Things aren't going to change. If the IWC had been around in 1980's Hulk Hogan still would have been booked as the top face despite his lack of wrestling prowess, the Ultimate Warrior would be booked as an unstoppable face, and the Undertaker would still have been booked as a zombie that was powered by an urn even if the IWC shat all over those ideas.


Posted By: Zingy (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 09:43 PM

 
 
Triple H jumped the shark in 2000 and when Austin returned and The Rock was simply electric the bastard should have gotten out of the way. He obviously saw the writing on the wall and decided to act on his storyline with Steph and make it real. Triple H is the biggest piece of shit to ever step into the ring. He holds way more people down than Cena does or Hogan did for that matter. Hogan actually did number across the board for wrestling. He put over Warrior and didnt get his win back within the next month. Triple H is actually on the creative staff. He does nothing but stroke his own ego and bury everyone. He has buried Orton and Cena so many times it isnt funny. When he put Orton over at No Mercy 07 it took him having to wrestle 3 matches that night before he would actually lose to Orton. As for Cena beating him at WM 22 that was the only time Cena won a 1 on 1 match with him. Trips got his win back. The only person Triple H has ever cleanly put over without ever getting his win back was Batista in their god awful trilogy of matches from 05. I think that is only becaue Batista has been injured so frequently or else he would have jobbed to the game since they have both been on RAW. Stop the Cena hating because he hasnt had the WWE title since 07 and put over JBL HHH and others last year. Triple H sandbagged Kozlov fucked over Jeff Hardy and should tear both quads, die from steroids or should have been the victim of Benoits rage in 2007. Get of or TV WE HATE YOU PAUL LEVESQUE.

Posted By: MPR (Guest)  on June 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM

 
 
It's a publicity stunt. Compared to 2000 and before that, no one knows any superstars in 2009. Cena, Kennedy....doesnt ring a bell. Everyone knew who Austin, Rock Hogan. Vince just wants the people who watch the Aprentice to watch WWE, more specifically RAW. They will get more views no doubt about it, but not much and the wrestling ij just gonna get worse. HHH vs Orton 9. Counted from 2004 also. :P

Posted By: Guest#3688 (Guest)  on June 17, 2009 at 02:04 AM

 
 
SMACKDOWN RUNS RAW

Posted By: Guest#3358 (Guest)  on June 17, 2009 at 07:07 AM

 
 
Get of or TV WE HATE YOU PAUL LEVESQUE.

Posted By: MPR (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Um,chill. If you could trade places with Paul Levesque right now you would.

Unless you've been in the business, you don't really know about it. You're just a fanboy taking this sport-soap opera-performace art waaay to seriously.


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on June 17, 2009 at 01:33 PM

 
 
Holy shit piperfan01, when does your paperback come out?
Posted By: Zingy (Guest) on June 16, 2009 at 09:43 PM

Zingy, I would never resort to paperback, those are only like 7.95, the hardcover I can sell for like 25.00, it's all about the mon-ay!...LOL. You'll just have to wait until someone makes cliff notes of my postings. Until then, I will continue to do what I do my friend.


Posted By: piperfan01 (Guest)  on June 17, 2009 at 01:53 PM

 
 
This was the best RAW in months.

Posted By: Thunder Chunky (Registered)  on June 17, 2009 at 07:48 PM

 
 
Did anyone else think that when Vince was making the comment about someone making an offer he couldn't refuse he was about to name Buff Bagwell as GM. Buff did recently offer to work for the WWE for free. I wouldn't be able to refuse that offer.

Posted By: Jeremy (Guest)  on June 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM

 
 
I can't believe RAW is the top brand...

Posted By: M.P. (Guest)  on June 19, 2009 at 08:32 PM

 




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