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The Bash 2009 Breakdown
Posted by J.D. Dunn on 07.01.2009
























The Bash 2009

by J.D. Dunn
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  • June 28, 2009

  • Live from Sacramento, Calif.

  • Your hosts are Michael Cole, Jerry Lawler, Jim Ross, Todd Grisham, Joey Styles and Matt Striker.


  • Opening Match, ECW Title Scramble
    Christian and Jack Swagger start. Swagger keeps Christian grounded with wacky amateur-pro hybrid moves. It's too bad Shelton Benjamin arrived just as Swagger left, because they could have worked well with one another. Finlay is next, and he loves to fight. He gives Swagger the Finlay Roll but falls victim to the DREADED EYEPOKE at 4:40. Swagger becomes the new ECW Champ. Tommy Dreamer is up next and for a guy with the physique (and real hair) of Al Bundy, he does pretty well for himself. Dreamer and Christian fall to the floor in a fight, so Finlay drops Swagger on his head with the Celtic Cross at 8:09. Mark Henry is in next, and they work in a big Tower of Doom spot that lands on Dreamer. Dreamer gets squashed with the World's Strongest Slam at 10:24. Everyone gangs up on Henry and knocks him out. Finlay sends Christian into a Bret Bump in the corner and then hits a suicide dive on Swagger. Isn't Finlay like 80 years old or something? Henry teases jumping off the top rope onto a gaggle of wrestlers on the floor, but Swagger clips him from behind and hits a pump-splash to regain the title at 12:17. Everyone starts rolling each other up. Dreamer manages to hit Christian with the DDT at 13:23. CUE THE CLUSTERFRICK! Everyone jumps on everyone else, going for covers, but no one can get another pin. Time just peters out at 14:45 (er, 15:00) to give Dreamer the successful retention. Started out pretty good and then went clunky and moved in fits and starts. **1/2

  • Edge storms into Teddy Long's crib and wants to be on the show. Teddy: Why don't you be a referee for my match tonight? Edge: Because I'm not booked, Teddy!

  • Intercontinental Title vs. Mask: Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio.
    Jericho is still obsessed with the mask, and he goes right after it from the get-go. Rey is able to use Jericho's anger against him and hits a flying rana. Jericho catches him sliding, though, and just slings his head right into the barricade. HOLY DEVASTATOR'S TESTICLES! Jericho methodically works Rey over, but Rey comes back with the Thesz Press from the top to the floor. Back in, Rey gets a spiffy springboard slingshot moonsault. ONE, TWO, TH-NO! Grisham wonders if there's ever been another superstar who could do something like that. Yeah, WCW had like 50 of them. Moonsault block by Rey! ONE, TWO, TH-NO! Rey tries to roll up Jericho into a huracanrana, but Jericho blocks and turns it into the Walls of Jericho. Rey makes the ropes and tries a 619, but Jericho nails him with the clothesline. Jericho gets caught going up, which is a lapse in strategy as pointed out by J.R.. Good call. Mysterio sets up for the Dragonsteiner, but Jericho counters to a POWERBOMB off the top. Feet on the ropes! ONE, TWO, THRE-NO! Lionsault misses, and Rey gets a whirlybird DDT out of the Torture Rack. ONE, TWO, THRE-NO! Great callback to their Night of Champions match. Rey springboards… right into a Codebreaker! ONE, TWO, THRE-NO! Jericho sets up for the huracanrana, but Rey blocks, sending Jericho to the canvas. Rey's missile dropkick knocks Jericho into the ropes. 619! Rey springboards… into the Liontamer! Crowd is FREAKING OUT! Rey reverses to a rollup, which Jericho reverses. Jericho rips off Rey's mask on the kickout. Turns out Rey has a second mask underneath the first, and that distraction allows Rey to dropkick Jericho into the ropes. 619! Springboard Splash! ONE, TWO, THREE! Rey regains the title at 15:40. Fantastic match, and if Shawn Michaels or the Undertaker were never born, this would probably be the WWE Match of the Year. As it is, it cements Rey/Jericho as the frontrunner for Feud of the Year. The usual praise applies – leading the audience to think they know where the match is going and then spinning it off in a different direction, playing off spots in previous matches, and just overall creative storytelling. Get it! ****1/2

  • Highlights of the bizarre Trump/McMahon deal. Even Tim Geithner doesn't understand this one.

  • Chris Jericho is irate that Rey cheated and wore a second mask. Teddy Long tells him to shut up (in many more words).

  • No DQ, No COR: Dolph Ziggler vs. The Great Khali (w/Ranjin Singh).
    So Ziggler called out anyone to come face him only to have Khali answer. No one EVER learns from the Honky Tonk Man. That led to a DQ when Ziggler used the chair and a COR victory over Khali, hence the stipulations tonight. Nice to see Dolph finally doing something because he was introducing himself for like a year. He seems like someone who would traditionally be stuck in a tag team. Khali does a lot of chops, which is actually a lot more awesome than it sounds. Ziggler works the legs, including chairshots. He could do better chairshots, actually. Constructive criticism. After a few minutes, Kane comes out, scares Ziggler off, and destroys Khali with the chair. That allows Ziggler to get the pin at 5:00. Ziggler parties like it's 2009, but his win is buried in the segue to the Kane/Khali feud. *

  • In the back, Vince McMahon tells Teddy Long to get a personality like the other General Managers he's fired over the years. Vince wants excitement and controversy.

  • Unified Tag Titles: The Colons vs. Priceless vs. Edge & Chris Jericho.
    Am I supposed to call them Priceless or Legacy? Teddy Long inserts Edge & Jericho at the last minute. Edge and Jericho immediately become the crowd favorites, but, and this is a great booking move – the other teams won't let them in! When Edge finally does tag in, he misses a charge… and gets tagged right back out. The stuff with the Colons and Legless is pretty standard. In fact, I don't even remember anything worth writing down. Finally, a fracas erupts, and Carlito hits Cody with the Backstabber. Edge tags Cody on the way down, though, and spears a startled Carlito to win his billionth tag title at 9:37. Congratulations, Edge. Your right back where you were a decade ago. Seriously, though, giving Edge & Jericho the titles makes the titles instantly more important. It also pushes two heels out of the way should they decide to go full heel with Punk. **1/4

  • In the back, Ted Dibiase objects to being Randy Orton's buttmonkey. Funny ending:

    Dibiase: Good luck with Triple H.
    Orton: DON'T YOU TALK TO ME LIKE THAT!

    Yeah, that was so insolent. He just crossed the line.

  • Women's Title: Melina vs. Michelle McCool (w/Alicia Fox).
    Well, at least this had decent psychology. They do a lot of work around Melina's injured knee. Pretty boring and heatless, although Michelle does bend Melina over and touch her foot to the back of her head. Melina fights back, but she keeps using moves that make her land on her knee. Silly. She hits a bulldog and lands on her knee, which allows Alicia to put Michelle's foot on the ropes on the cover. Michelle finishes with the Faithbreaker (Styles Clash) at 6:32. Willie hears ya. Willie don't care. Nothing wrong with the work involved really, but they just don't invest anything in these matches, so neither does the audience (at least outside of cameltoe shots). *

  • World Heavyweight Title: CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy.
    Awkward family dynamic. They show two kids in the audience, who, I assume are brothers. One has a CM Punk sign. The other has Jeff Hardy armbands. I do not envy the parents in that car ride. No face paint for Jeff. SUPER SERIAL! Punk gets a mixed reaction – to say the least – and the fans are clearly buying Hardy's side of things. The funny thing is that, had Edge retained only to have Punk cash in, Punk would have been the greatest hero ever, so, by definition, his actions are not immoral. They just don't like who he beat. Punk is very Bret Hart-'97-like in this match, doing things that aren't technically wrong, but still piss off the crowd. It's like he got a lecture from Trent in Swingers. "I don't want you to be the guy in the PG-13 movie everyone's *really* hoping makes it happen. I want you to be like the guy in the rated R movie, you know, the guy you're not sure whether or not you like yet. You're not sure where he's coming from. Okay?" We see this right away when Jeff backdrops him over and goes out after him, but Punk avoids Poetry in Motion and seems content to take the countout. Jeff dives in at the last second. Punk becomes progressively more frustrated, especially after Jeff kicks out of the knee/bulldog combo. Of course, that *never* gets the pin, so I don't know what his problem is. Hardy ducks a backfist and hits the Twist of Fate. The Swanton misses, so Punk calls for the Go2Sleep. Hardy reverses to a rollup. ONE, TWO, THRE-NO! Hardy with a second Twist of Fate, and the Swanton hits this time. ONE, TWO, THREE! Oh, but Punk had his foot under the bottom rope, so the ref restarts the match. Hardy calls for another Twist of Fate, but Punk reverses to the Go2Sleep. Hardy elbows out of it, though, and catches poor CM Punk in the eye. And to make matters worse, it's one of those eye injuries that affects the other eye too and creates the illusion that the ref is actually your opponent. Have you ever had those? They suck. Punk tries to kick Hardy but kicks the ref instead. The ref, not being the most understanding individual about such an injury, disqualifies Punk at 15:00. The action in the match was just okay, but Punk is such an awesome character when he's a weasel. Plus, Hardy gets screwed over twice, infuriating the crowd at Punk. Even better, Punk apparently has Jim Ross convinced of his innocence. **3/4

  • After the match, Hardy is pissed and tracks Punk down in the aisle for a spazzy beatdown. And here's the great part: Punk doesn't defend himself because he has an eye injury.

  • In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it Eddy Guerrero-ish moment, Punk cracks a little smile as the ref is helping him up the ramp.

  • In the back, The Colons want to know what's what from Teddy Long. Long says he stands by his decision, but he's clearly feeling some pangs of remorse.

  • Elsewhere, Randy Orton can't get Cody on the phone.

  • John Cena vs. The Miz.
    You know, thematically, this match is all screwed up. Given the feud they're having (that Miz is barely worth Cena's time), this should have went one of two ways A) Cena destroys Miz Ultimate Warrior-'88 style, or B) Cena destroys Miz but loses in some sort of fluke or interference. Instead, they have a fairly normal Raw match. Cena dominates before Miz catches him by snapping his neck on the ropes. Miz takes over and works the neck, but he doesn't do much of note. Cena catches him with the AA and finishes with the STF. Miz taps with both hands, giving Cena the win at 5:38. They're in a tough spot with Cena. There's too much invested in him to be a heel. He's not interesting as a squeaky clean babyface. In fact, it's no wonder that he's slipping from storyline relevance and turning into the WWE's version of Paris Hilton – he's famous for being John Cena, not for being in the title hunt or doing anything interesting on Raw. My solution: feud him with a woman. Haven't seen one of those in a while. Have some lusty young diva wench try to seduce him, but have him politely turn her down, so she, being scorned, unleashes the fury on him in the form of… well, just come up with something. Do I have to do everything? *

  • Sidebar: This is why Superman movies tend to suck and Batman movies tend to be pretty good (as long as the director stays true to the characters – Joel Schumacher, I'm looking at you). The first Superman movie was okay because they added in that Spider-Manish overdeveloped sense of responsibility from his father's death. Superman II blows it away because it confronts Superman with the dilemma of being all-powerful and alone or Clark Kent and in love. When the Unholy Trio threatens to conquer earth, he realizes that the world is bigger than just Clark and Lois, and with great power comes great responsibility. (Btw, if you haven't figured it out yet, the first two Superman movies sound an awful lot like the Spider-Man mythology, which is probably why, as they got more outlandish – and DCish - with III and IV, the series stalled).

  • I guess my main bullet point with all this is that Cena is being presented as Superman – incorruptible, invincible, and dramatically boring as hell – and they need to give him a bit of a character edge -- a moral weakness, not just a physical one.

  • WWE Heavyweight Title, Three Stages of Hell: Randy Orton vs. Triple H.
    Traditional Rules: You mean I get to watch these guys THREE TIMES?! Awesome. Standard stuff until Triple H gets tossed to the floor and destroys Orton with a chairshot for the DQ at 4:52. Triple H continues to destroy Orton, thus gaining an advantage in the last two falls. That's *extremely* risky. In the Iron Man Match, you can afford to do that to get a temporary advantage, but now HHH has to win two straight.

    Falls Count Anywhere: Michael Cole is literally the last person on earth to figure out that it was part of HHH's strategy. Cole: So you're saying, King, that you think HHH would sacrifice a fall? Jesus. You're KILLIN' me, Smalls. Hunter takes Orton to the floor for a Pedigree and wins the second fall on the floor at 6:19.

    Stretcher Match: Okay, now that we've gotten everything interesting out of the way… Hunter tries to shove Randy across the line quickly, but Orton hops off the stretcher and shoves it back into HHH. Lots of using of the ringsteps follow. Nothing interesting. Good spot as Orton tries to punt Hunter in the head, but Hunter moves, and Orton stubs his toe on the stretcher. Nothing really comes of it; it's just kind of cute. Orton puts Hunter on the stretcher and wheels him up the ramp. But wouldn't you know it – at the last second, Hunter rolls off. PEDIGREE! Hunter crawls over and puts Randy on the stretcher. Orton is slightly over the line, but this isn't hockey or football. You have to be all the way over. Oh, but Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase come out to stop HHH. Hunter is Hunter, though, so it's hardly a fair fight for Rhodes and Dibiase, so Hunter grabs his sledgehammer out of Han Solo's smuggling compartment and destroys them. ODIN! Orton punts HHH in the giblets, though, and wheels him across for the win at 21:31. I liked the twist with Hunter's strategy, but this suffered from their usual problems of sluggishness and attempts to force an epic feeling where none exists. **1/2

  • But wait! Having Orton win with the help of only two other guys leaves him with some dignity, so Hunter grabs his sledgehammer and brains Orton to get his heat back. And just in case you were worried, Michael Cole gets to work in "numbers game" thanks to this ending. I was worried. We're nearly out of time. I didn't think he'd get it in there.


  • The 411: As with the past few shows, everything not Raw (or Diva) is pretty good, and everything Raw drags down the show. It's not that the wrestling is significantly worse, but the storytelling is just horrible. The glass ceiling and absence of Shawn Michaels and Batista mean that they only really have HHH, Cena, and Orton as legit title contenders so we're going to get that cycle repeatedly for the foreseeable future. Conversely, Smackdown seems to have a policy of "hey, if you can get over your own way, do it." Gotta call this a thumbs down in spite of the brilliant work of Jericho and Rey Mysterio.

    Recommendation to avoid.


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    JD I don't like our reviews you are so harsh in rating matches and overate alot of matches. And what do you mean when you say that if HBk was never born than Y2J vs. 619 at the Bash would have been the MOTY. You are saying it like HBK did everything in the Taker-HBK mania match and the Undertaker was standing at one place like a brainless ape not doing anything and you put it like HBK carried the match and Taker did nothing. And it seems that you think that taker is means nor meant anything to the wrestling business when alot of people actually became wrestling fans after watching him like I did. You have also underated alot of Undertaker matches like Taker-Edge HIAC and TLC and Taker vs. Lesnar HIAC. When you have overrated other HBK matches like the Ironman match, the unsanctioned match with Y2J. I am done with reading your reviews JD.

    Posted By: Y2J619 (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 06:34 PM

     
     
    Sandlot reference.. awesome man.. pure awesomeness

    Posted By: Neuce6 (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 06:47 PM

     
     
    Hey Dunn, any chance you'll review any PWG Shows?

    Posted By: the dude (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 07:20 PM

     
     
    I just don't understand if I can see all these great storyline ideas that just make too much sense all over the place, and not only by writers but from comments from casual fans as well, why can real WWE writers miss the boat so frequently and get it right 1/10?

    Posted By: Bravo (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 07:30 PM

     
     
    Call Ted DiBiase and Cody Rhodes...Ted DiBiase and Cody Rhodes. The Priceless name went out the window when they changed music, and while WWE may be OK with calling them Legacy, it's highly annoying when only some members of a stable are called by the stable name (i.e. X-Pac & Road Dogg wrestling as "DX" when Triple H was still technically part of the group). DiBiase and Rhodes shouldn't be Legacy unless they're teaming with Orton.

    Posted By: Master of the Dagger (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 07:31 PM

     
     
    I agree that putting the titles on Edge and Jericho gives them importance. Maybe this is the beginning of tag team resurgence we have been clamoring for. I like when main event players are in the tag team scene.

    I disagree that Jericho/Mysterio is second to HBK/Taker. That match was overrated and Jericho/Mysterio was far superior. Kicking out of each other's finishers multiple times does not a great match make.


    Posted By: Guest#3450 (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 07:41 PM

     
     
    Question J.D.

    Is Mysterio/Jericho worth the fifteen dollar price tag of the DVD when it comes out?

    Also, loved the Sandlot reference.


    Posted By: Chief Runs With Beer (Registered)  on July 01, 2009 at 07:43 PM

     
     
    Technically, you need to be all the way across the line in hockey as well. Otherwise, Calgary would have won a cup in the past twenty years.

    Posted By: CyberSocko (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 07:56 PM

     
     
    Y2J619 = Undertaker.

    Posted By: Foolio (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 08:36 PM

     
     
    "Technically, you need to be all the way across the line in hockey as well. Otherwise, Calgary would have won a cup in the past twenty years."

    I thought you just had to break the plane of the front part of the goal line. Huh.

    "Is Mysterio/Jericho worth the fifteen dollar price tag of the DVD when it comes out?"

    Better idea. Get Netflix for a month and rent it. :)


    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 01, 2009 at 08:42 PM

     
     
    "And what do you mean when you say that if HBk was never born than Y2J vs. 619 at the Bash would have been the MOTY."

    I mean it would have been pretty awkward for Undertaker to go out their and pretend to wrestle an invisible man. But OKAY, sheesh.

    "If Undertaker had never been born, died, been resurrected, died again, been buried alive, been resurrected again, died again, and been resurrected again, Jericho vs. Rey would be MOTY."

    Happy?


    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 01, 2009 at 08:46 PM

     
     
    I read your reviews because they're there, and I rarely have the urge to comment, but I feel the need to do it now. The first commenter is right - you forgot the Undertaker. We all saw that match, and Taker did just as much as HBK to make that match a classic. Hell, he even did the more dangerous spots to help give the match that little extra something.

    Give respect where its due.


    Posted By: Mike (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 08:50 PM

     
     
    "There" not "their." D'oh.

    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 01, 2009 at 09:08 PM

     
     
    "I read your reviews because they're there, and I rarely have the urge to comment, but I feel the need to do it now. The first commenter is right - you forgot the Undertaker. We all saw that match, and Taker did just as much as HBK to make that match a classic. Hell, he even did the more dangerous spots to help give the match that little extra something.

    Give respect where its due."

    You know, I just picked one of the two of them. People are reading far too much into this.


    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 01, 2009 at 09:10 PM

     
     
    Maybe this is the beginning of tag team resurgence we have been clamoring for
    ______________________

    No offense to anyone who believes this but we ALWAYS say that. When the titles were unified "tag team resurgence" when the draft and supplument draft happened "tag team resurgence" whenever a tag titles match make it on a PPV "tag team resurgence". I hate to be pessemistic but its not happening. I would love for it to be true but time and time over the last couple years the WWE hasn't given a shit about any title except WHW and WWE titles


    Posted By: Guest#3957 (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 09:17 PM

     
     
    column looks good, bud. thanks for the laughs and i got what you were trying to say. fuck the mouthbreathers who didn't.

    Posted By: nazi zombie killer (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 09:41 PM

     
     
    "Teddy: Why don't you be a referee for my match tonight? Edge: Because I'm not booked, Teddy!"

    You guys can have The Sandlot, I'll take the epic DENNIS STAMP reference any day.


    Posted By: The REAL MP (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 09:43 PM

     
     
    Also, was it you that mentioned how cool the camera-work was at the last PPV, especially in HD? I think they topped themselves on this show when Mysterio did that top-rope Thesz press to the floor RIGHT INTO YOUR LIVING ROOM. The camera was set right over Jericho's shoulder and it just looked incredible.

    Posted By: The REAL MP (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 09:46 PM

     
     
    "Hey Dunn, any chance you'll review any PWG Shows?"

    Eventually. Nice to have them in one convenient place. Now if ROH would only carry CHIKARA... hint, hint.


    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 01, 2009 at 10:02 PM

     
     
    "If you can get you are your own way, do it." Huh? English is a skill, son.

    Posted By: Lucius (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 10:13 PM

     
     
    J.D. I think the undertaker good. He makes me and my friends in our trailer happy. Please don't forget about undertaker. You give Khali more stars please? He also make me happy. He tall and chops look like hurting.

    Posted By: every other poster before me (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 10:47 PM

     
     
    Every internet smark says that they want a return to tag team wrestling with established teams and legit storylines that aren't just centered on random high level singles wrestlers being used. You have to understand that in this post kayfabe era its just too ridiculous to try to pull that off regularly. The vast majority of storylines involve too much major heat involving the individual competitors to bring in short attention span folks. Why would two guys hold on to a tag rope in the corner and "wait their turn" when they "truly hate each other". Its just too limited in its presentation to every really work again on a large scale. All you fans of 80's tag wrestling have to admit that being subjected to real scrutiny leaves the vast majority of storylines from that time pretty ridiculous and un-workable these days.

    Posted By: Steven Xavier (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 10:56 PM

     
     
    You know JD, I can't believe you'd say that about the undertaker, dickish move. I hate assholes.

    Posted By: Danny Charisma (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 11:14 PM

     
     
    'Great callback to their Night of Champions match.'
    I think this match never happened.


    Posted By: someone (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 11:44 PM

     
     
    You don't have to defend yourself JD. The review of the Mysterio-Jericho match clearly says "If Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker were never born..." Stop skim-reading folks!

    Posted By: APinOz (Guest)  on July 01, 2009 at 11:52 PM

     
     
    "Why would two guys hold on to a tag rope in the corner and "wait their turn" when they "truly hate each other"

    By that logic, why dont wrestlers in one on one contests throw out the rules and get disqualified just to really hurt the other guy? Why dont they bring bats to the ring?


    Posted By: Guest#4271 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 12:14 AM

     
     
    "I read your reviews because they're there, and I rarely have the urge to comment, but I feel the need to do it now. The first commenter is right - you forgot the Undertaker. We all saw that match, and Taker did just as much as HBK to make that match a classic. Hell, he even did the more dangerous spots to help give the match that little extra something.

    Give respect where its due."

    You know, I just picked one of the two of them. People are reading far too much into this.
    -----------

    For what it's worth, I understood it. However, I also passed the Reading Comprehension portion of the Basic Skills test in middle school.


    Posted By: Alyaz (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 12:41 AM

     
     
    You should review Smackdown JD, would be pure awesomeness

    Posted By: christy (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:55 AM

     
     
    Maybe it's because it's 2:30 in the morning as I read this, but the bit about Han Solo's smuggling compartment had me laughing my ass off, and the ODIN! follow-up was just gravy. Kudos, good sir, on always making even the bad shows entertaining.

    Posted By: LRoq (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:27 AM

     
     
    I like your reviews JD. You always keep it real and don't sugarcoat how you feel about a PPV. Your reviews of the Women's Championship match and Cena/Miz were right on point in my estimation. Excellent job as always.

    Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 02:47 AM

     
     
    I have since watched Rey-Jericho a 2nd time & its just such an awesome match, certainly deserves ****1/2 imo, really hard for me to say if i liked it better then Taker & HBK tho.

    Also im glad you mentioned Punks little grin when he got out the ring after the match, that was classic stuff right there.


    Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 07:21 AM

     
     
    Great review as always Dunn, bang on the money.

    Posted By: Greg (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 07:32 AM

     
     
    You don't have to defend yourself JD. The review of the Mysterio-Jericho match clearly says "If Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker were never born..." Stop skim-reading folks!

    Posted By: APinOz (Guest) on July 01, 2009 at 11:52 PM


    Coming from some one who read it when there were no comments it did say Shawn Michaels. Or else no one would have complained. I know he changed it, its either that or I'm blind


    Posted By: Guest#2656 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 07:55 AM

     
     
    JD's reviews are like Scott Keith-lite and I really wish he'd find his own style instead of constantly putting in references to pop culture in an attempt to be clever/cool/whatever, it's like he's trying too hard. Case in point, I didn't see The Bash so when I read this:

    'Teddy: Why don't you be a referee for my match tonight? Edge: Because I'm not booked, Teddy!'

    I couldn't tell if it was Edge and Teddy that actually said this and were ribbing Beyond The Mat themselves, or if it was indeed a bad reference to a film that came out 10 years ago.

    I've read JD's stuff for a while and when he's not doing that kind of stuff he's great, but I think he'd benefit more he stopped ripping off that kind of style and came up with something of his own.


    Posted By: Guest#7645 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 07:55 AM

     
     
    "And what do you mean when you say that if HBk was never born than Y2J vs. 619 at the Bash would have been the MOTY. You are saying it like HBK did everything in the Taker-HBK mania match and the Undertaker was standing at one place like a brainless ape not doing anything and you put it like HBK carried the match and Taker did nothing."

    Ah Y2J619, here's Dunn's quote.

    "Fantastic match, and if Shawn Michaels or the Undertaker were never born, this would probably be the WWE Match of the Year."

    Read it before you judge it.


    Posted By: Guest#0038 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 08:28 AM

     
     
    It doesn't matter if I agree or disagree with your review. What matters is that you put in a good mix of the action, commentary and obscure references. Very similar to why I enjoy Bill Simmons over on ESPN (you know, when he actually writes something).

    Posted By: BobbyC (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 10:27 AM

     
     
    Well i, for one, don't know who the fuck Scott Keith is, ergo i think the sun shines from Dunn's asshole.

    Ignorance is bliss guys. Try being more ignorant. Have you ever seen a sad retard? No.

    J.D. may review PWG shows! Praise be to allah there is a budda!!!


    Posted By: the dude (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:10 AM

     
     
    "I've read JD's stuff for a while and when he's not doing that kind of stuff he's great, but I think he'd benefit more he stopped ripping off that kind of style and came up with something of his own."

    That *is* my own style. My generation communicates and bonds through pop culture. I'm not ripping off Scott Keith. We're BOTH ripping off Dennis Miller. I'm not trying to hard at anything; I actually drop movie lines, song lyrics, and current event references into everyday conversation, and guess what - so does just about everyone else I know in my generation. That's what comes from being raised in the VCR generation.

    "If you can get you are your own way, do it." Huh? English is a skill, son."

    Actually, it should probably be 'typing skill, son.' That was just a matter of me transposing a few letters and Microsoft Office 'helping me out' by automatically correcting it to nonsense. But hey, no mis-spellings!

    And to the people correcting other posters, it did originally say "If Shawn Michaels had never been born..." Apparently, people thought that was a slight to the Undertaker, so I changed it.

    Although, I'd say Shawn Michaels is more likely to have a MOTYC at WrestleMania w/o the Undertaker than the Undertaker would be w/o Shawn.


    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:19 AM

     
     
    agree that putting the titles on Edge and Jericho gives them importance. Maybe this is the beginning of tag team resurgence we have been clamoring for. I like when main event players are in the tag team scene.

    I disagree that Jericho/Mysterio is second to HBK/Taker. That match was overrated and Jericho/Mysterio was far superior. Kicking out of each other's finishers multiple times does not a great match make.

    Posted By: Guest#3450 (Guest) on July 01, 2009 at 07:41 PM

    Yeah ryte your the next person I am going to run into to rate a wrestling match, yhave you even wathed the UT s HBK match in the first place, you knw how much expectation there was was for this match and that it is very difficult to overcome these expectations but these 2 did it, and you say jericho 619 far exceeeded, you might have been high when you watched the bash , good luck


    Posted By: Guest#8406 (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:38 AM

     
     
    My only problem is that Jericho/Rey was as good (if not better) than HBK/UT. Of course, HBK/UT has the added benefit of being at WrestleMania, in front of 60,000 people, between the two biggest stars at the moment. All this adds to the mystique of an already very good (although, a bit methodical) match.

    Y2J/Rey was faster paced and less about big move/reversal/finisher/kickout/repeat.


    Posted By: ForRealz (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:47 AM

     
     
    "Well i, for one, don't know who the fuck Scott Keith is, ergo i think the sun shines from Dunn's asshole"

    That's actually just a powerful flashlight. College fraternity initiation thing... better left unexplained.


    Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:53 AM

     
     
    "Although, I'd say Shawn Michaels is more likely to have a MOTYC at WrestleMania w/o the Undertaker than the Undertaker would be w/o Shawn."

    Exactly right. Face it folks, Dunn picked Michaels over Taker cos Shawn has been having classics for fifteen years. Taker has consistently been having classics for...three. And every classic Taker was in before 2006 was, for the most part, due to who he was working with. I'm not saying he was completely carried by a Shawn Michaels or a Bret Hart, but back then Taker couldn't just have a fantastic match with anyone like HBK could.

    Dennis Stamp references take the cake. And the ice cream. Then steal the utensils. If someone like Jericho or Edge actually got that on TV I would totally mark the fuck out.


    Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 11:57 AM

     
     
    "You know, thematically, this match is all screwed up. Given the feud they're having (that Miz is barely worth Cena's time), this should have went one of two ways A) Cena destroys Miz Ultimate Warrior-'88 style, or B) Cena destroys Miz but loses in some sort of fluke or interference."

    Or Miz could give Cena a run for his money (like he did on Monday night) like he should have and he would come out looking better than he did going in.

    Miz getting treated like a jobber instead of a threat didn't do anything for Miz.


    Posted By: mp (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:36 PM

     
     
    just sat down with a cup of hot chocolate and a box of chocolates to check out jds latest wrestling review.

    really great work jd. bang on the money. loved the sandlot reference.

    will you be my friend?


    Posted By: jd groupie (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 01:53 PM

     
     
    "Highlights of the bizarre Trump/McMahon deal. Even Tim Geithner doesn't understand this one."

    Tim Geithner doesn't understand anything. He's the Secretary of the Treasury and he doesn't understand that he is supposed to PAY HIS TAXES.

    Anyway, the whole Vince/Trump was a classic bait and switch, only this time it took but a week to flesh out. This is why I have a hard time finding the will to care about professional wrestling anymore. I'm clamoring for something to get my attention, but RAW can't do it. I don't get SmackDown, and Impact is just kinda hokey for me, and I still don't like that 6-sided ring. For now, I'll stick to my WWE retrospective DVDs.


    Posted By: Jareth (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 05:26 PM

     
     
    Dennis Stamp FTW

    Posted By: Mark (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 06:05 PM

     
     
    Sorry. I didnt post my name earlier when I wrote that Y2J/Mysterio was far superior to HBK/Taker. To the oh-so-eloquent poster that asked if I had even seen HBK/Taker---YES.

    The problem with that match was twofold-

    1. Most of quality wrestling comes from storytelling and athleticism, but there is something to be said for the element of surprise. We all knew UT would win, like always at WM. I hate knowing that every WM has one match that is a foregone conclusion, even if it has great wrestling. It really sucked at 24 bc you knew the result of the ME title match already. Never losing at WM cheats the fans and has become a stupid gimmick that needs to go.

    2. Their match was a **** encounter, dont get me wrong, but with the foregone conclusion heading in, it should have been better. What story was told, other than we can both kick out of each others finishers a bunch?

    Jericho/Rey's match was something of a foregone conclusion too, but they elevated their game to compensate.


    Posted By: Rob (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 06:50 PM

     
     
    i think u underate many matches if jericho rey was 4 and 1/2 then jeff vs sm punk should be 3 1/4 atleast

    Posted By: mike (Guest)  on July 02, 2009 at 06:51 PM

     
     
    "We all knew UT would win, like always at WM."

    But there's something to be said that Michaels and Taker were able to make me (and more importantly the live crowd) believe that Shawn had a chance to win. Deep down I knew Undertaker was going over but I was able to suspend my disbelief for a wee bit and get caught up in the drama.


    Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 10:33 AM

     
     
    I was caught up in good wrestling, but not the drama. UT and his winning streak will never end, and that is lame. The guy never even jobs away from WM. I dont understand the love. Everyone at my WM for the last two years knew EDge and HBK never stood a chance.

    Posted By: Guest#6773 (Guest)  on July 03, 2009 at 02:38 PM

     
     
    Jesus. You're KILLIN' me, Smalls.

    Sandlot reference, absolute gold!


    Posted By: Freeman (Guest)  on July 06, 2009 at 12:13 AM

     
     
    Not to be a douche, but Odin has a sword and Thor has the hammer. But in everything that JD does naturally, it rocks the foundation of time itself. I liked this PPV when I watched it live and bought the DVD, even if it was only for Y2J-Mysterio and Punk/Hardy. It was better than Extreme Rules, which had the crap-ass Cage Match and the AWFUL Hog Pen match with Vickie and Santina. Only Jenna/Sharmell at Victory Road was worse than that. The ECW Scramble and the Unified Tag Title Match were both solid, so I would slightly recommend this PPV, even if to just watch the slow burn of Punk's heel turn and the sheer awesomeness of Y2J-Mysterio. May they feud forever.

    Posted By: TheEndofAllThings (Guest)  on August 01, 2009 at 03:39 PM

     


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