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411's TNA No Surrender Report 9.20.09
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 09.20.2009



Hey yo. We've got 9 matches on the card tonight, and half of them might even be good! So without further ado...




Finals Of The Knockouts Tag Team Title Tournament: The Beautiful People vs. Sarita and Taylor Wilde

The Lucha Ladies are color-coordinated and everything! Awwww. DAT AZZ SQUARED are out in identical outfits, and yes it is Madison Rayne taking over. I love you cameraman. Tenay does mention the issues with Angelina Love's visa and also mentions that TNA Management allowed Rayne to sub in. Wait a second...Earl Hebner is out and is evicting Slick Johnson from the match!

Wilde starts off by taking advantage of the distraction with a quick scoop slam. Tag to Sarita who gets a drop toehold into a crossface, some quick counters and Sarita gets 3 two-counts on Sky. Tag to Wilde, a double back elbow and a double team moonsault gets 2. Sky gets a kneelift and a tag to Rayne who charges right into a drop toehold by Wilde which is followed by an elbow drop. Sarita tags in and drops an elbow too but has a whip reversed and gets thrown head first to the mat. Rayne with some kicks in the corner, tag to Sky and they get a double team takedown for 2. Sloppy hair beal by Sky on Sarita. Sky tries a sunset flip, Sarita rolls through but misses the drop kick as Sky moves. 2 count for Sky. CURB STOMP gets 2 for Sky. Well, an upside down curb stomp. Madison tags in and gets a swinging neckbreaker for 2. Tag back to Sky with some chops, she tries a clothesline but Sarita gets the floatover DDT! Shades of the Rock! Tag to Rayne AND TO WILDE! Dropkick! Finlay roll! Dropkick for Sky! Tilt-a-whirl backbreaker gets 2 for Wilde. All 4 ladies in now, Sarita vaults over Sky and hits a forearm on Love! Dropkick to Sky and she goes to the floor! Wilde has a waistlock on Rayne...SPRINGBOARD DROPKICK BY SARITA into the German by Wilde! 1...2...3!

Winners, and NEW Knockout Tag Team Champions: Sarita and Taylor Wilde via pinfall (Wilde on Rayne, springboard dropkick/German suplex combo)
Rating: **3/4 Too short for anything else. It was good and exciting and Velvet Sky looked better than she ever has in TNA, but with the time they had they couldn't reallyu have done any better.

Taz and Tenay run down the card.

Wilde and Sarita are backstage with Lauren and they have a mutual lovefest. Everyone's wonderful.

Video package for Eric Young and Hernandez. JB is with the World Elite and once again Kiyoshi takes over the mic. Young is still convinced Hernandez will join them. Their match is next and Young is in a suit. He won't fight Hernandez, if Hernandez wants to hit him he can. He'll take it. OK so why is this on my PPV?

Eric Young vs. Hernandez

That IS a very nice suit, but when you have 8 other matches scheduled do we need this? Hernandez is out with his briefcase...

NASTY forearm right off the bat! Northern lariat by Hernandez and he hits a shoulder block sending Young to the floor! That was sick. Headbutt to the chest back inside, then a Border Toss to finish. Mmmmm squash.

Winner: Hernandez via pinfall (Border Toss)
Rating: DUD Could have been done on Impact. This fools nobody, we all know now that Hernandez is cashing in.

Matt Morgan is with JB. Morgan thinks this is all about him and Kurt, and he can already feel the burn in his hand from the torch that he's going to rip from Kurt's grasp. Very nice. Morgan figures the future is now. Excellent promo.

Video package for the X-Division title match.

TNA X-Division Title Match: Samoa Joe © vs. Daniels

Fresh from karaoke, Daniels is out. Allegedly he sang Let's Get It On. Joe is looking pissed. The fans in the expensive seats try and fail to start an X-Division chant.

Joe powers Daniels off the lockup but Daniels uses his speed to avoid the charge and gets a pair of quick dropkicks, he charges in for a third and gets shoulder blocked to the mat. Hard. Beatdown in the corner now by Joe. He perches Daniels on the top but Daniels pushes him off and uses the separation to hit a headscissors off the top! Joe bails to the floor, TOPE by Daniels to the floor! Back inside and Daniels gets a drop toehold and a kneedrop to the back of the head. Neckbreaker gets 2 for Daniels. 10-count punches in the corner by Daniels, a charging lariat and Daniels goes up top...dives into a uranage slam by Joe! Snap mare, chop to the back, kick to the test and a knee drop by Joe gets 2. OH NOES! Evil Heel Nerve Hold...of Doom! Daniels fights free but runs into a back elbow by Joe. Back to the nerve hold. Again Daniels fights out but gets hit with a snap powerslam for two. Snap jabs by Joe, Daniels is on rubber legs. Daniels ducks under a chop and hits a jawbreaker and and an enziguiri! Palm strikes by Daniels and a leg lariat takes Joe down! Bulldog headlock by Daniels and he's going to the high rent district...Alabama Jam! Joe rolls to the floor before the pin, Daniels stands on the apron and kicks Joe before hitting an Arabian press to the floor! Daniels breaks the count and tries to haul Joe up, Joe is sandbagging him. He suddenly regains his senses and rams Daniels into the post and then the steps. He rolls Daniels onto the apron and hits a running clothesline to the legs of Daniels, taking him down to the apron. Back inside Daniels fights back with forearms, he runs the ropes and Joe catches him, crosses Daniels' legs and drives them into the mat in a sitout position! NEVER seen that before, but damn if it wasn't awesome. Doesn't have to be flashy to look good. Joe stomps on the legs, Daniels tries again to come back with forearms but Joe hits some leg kicks and rolls through into a heel hook. Daniels makes the ropes. Joe gets a powerbomb and transitions into an STF, then into a single leg crab. Again Daniels makes the ropes. More leg kicks by Joe, Daniels jumps over one and hits a flying neckbreaker! Daniels gets some jabs, a clothesline and a leg lariat and apparently he has forgotten that his legs have been battered. BOOO! Daniels slides between Joe's legs and takes him down, then gets a flying top-rop clothesline! 1...2...no. Codebreaker! 1...2...no! He tries a back suplex but Joe blocks due to being too heavy and hits a half-nelson release suplex! 1...2...2.835! Joe tries for a Samoan drop, Daniels fights it off with elbows and hits the STO! Here it comes...Best! Moonsault! MISSES! Daniels lands on his feet, semi-sells the knee but still charges Joe, who moves. Enziguiri by Joe! Muscle buster time...Daniels slips out the back! Angel's Wings...too heavy! Last Rites countered, Dragon Sleeper applied by Joe slips out and grabs the Kokina Klutch! Down to the mat the go, the hooks are in! Daniels tries to fight out but can't do it, can't reach the rope...he taps!

Winner: Samoa Joe via submission (Kokina Klutch)
Rating: ***½ Given the epic battles these two have had, this was a letdown. It started off meh, got better but never really found that special gear we've come to expect from these two. The last 2 minutes were the best part of the match. Only question now is who they feed to Joe next.

JB is with Mick Foley. Foley is upset because there's an empty spot on his wall. The Tweet n Tweak picture has been smashed and Foley is unhappy about that.

Falls Count Anywhere: Suicide vs. Pope D'Angelo Dinero

D'Angelo Dinero is backstage but gets interrupted by Suicide! There's a ref waiting in the ring while they slug it out backstage, the ref calls for the bell to start the match and runs backstage! Pope slams Suicide into a wall, then sets up Suicide on some equipment cases before climbing onto a higher area and dropping an elbow! That gets 2 after Dinero sells his own elbow. Suicide has fought back now and gets a small package for 2. Pope's head gets driven into a...something metal. Pope fights back again and places Suicide into a conveniently-placed chair, then knocks him off it. Point? Pope goes for a headbutt but hurts his own head, then gets backdropped into a dumpster! 2 count only for Suicide in the dumpster. Never thought I'd type that. Pope manages to regain the upper hand then gets in a vehicle of some sort! He tries to ram Suicide twice, each time the masked man is able to avoid it before managing to haul Pope out of the vehivle. He rams Pope into a barricade, Pope tries to escape by climbing over a chainlink fence. Suicide grabs his tights, pulls them down and shows more of Pope than I ever wanted to see, then slams Pope off the fence onto some pallets for 2. Suicide puts Pope onto a wheeled cart and runs him into something, then jumps on him. Another 2 count. They're heading back to the arena, Pope is ahead of Suicide and ambushes him as he comes around a corner. Pope puts Suicide's head onto the ring bell and whacks it with the hammer. DING! Suicide manages to roll Pope into the ring and hits a springboard dropkick for 2. Pope goes back outside, slingshot crossbody by Suicide to the floor! Both men are feeling it now. Pope is inside the ring while Suicide is getting a table, Pope sees it and slides between the ropes to kick the table into Suicide...badly. Pope sets up the table to the side of the ramp about halfway up, then suplexes Suicide on the ramp for 2. He argues the count and then tries another splex on to the table but Suicide escapes out the back! Rights by Suicide and a clothesline gets 2. Suicide Solution attempt countered, Pope hits some stiff shots and Suicide teases falling off the stage! Pope pulls down the kneepads but charges right into a dropkick! Pope's head hit the stage HARD. Suicide goes backstage and fetches ANOTHER table, he sets it up and takes Pope up for a Finlay Roll into the table! Pope escapes but Suicide gets him up again and connects with the Finlay Roll on the stage! Both men are hurting from that move. Suicide puts Pope on the table and...he has an idea. This can't end well. He climbs the set! BANZAI!!! Pope moves! Suicide goes ass-first through the table! Pope rolls on top! 1...2...3!!!

Winner: D'Angelo Dinero via pinfall (Suicide breaking his ass)
Rating: *** These matches can be hit or miss. Very rarely do you get one that isn't really either, but this one managed it. It was better than some I've seen but there wasn't really anything here that I'll remember next week. Good, not great.

Video package for ODB vs Deaner.

To Decide The TNA Knockouts Champion: Cody Deaner vs. ODB

I watched Joe Dirt the other day for abo0ut the 14th time. I have no idea why that just came into my head. It's not like Deaner should have been in it or anything. Of course that would make ODB his sister and I really don't need that mental image.

This had better be short, cos it won't be sweet. ODB makes some lewd gestures with Deaner's shirt. She ducks a big backhand and lays in some chops and slaps. Deaners pushes her off but she ducks another wild swing and hits some more slaps. Deaner gets a low blow...which does nothing. ODB celebrates behind his back and then hits a clothesline. Deaner goes to the floor to recoup but ODB hits a diving attack! She rams Cody's head into the apron then rolls him in. Whip reversed, Cody charges into a boot by ODB, she goes up top but gets dragged off by Deaner! 2 count only. Deaner makes as if to punch her in the face but thinks better of it. Scoop slam by Deaner gets 2. Deaner takes a swig from ODB's flask and leaps...into the crotch claw!!! BALL BEAL! She climbs to the top, rams his head into the turnbuckle then gets a Lou Thesz press for 2!!! Cody gets a double leg and pins with the feet on the ropes! Ref sees it and won't count! They argue and the ref pushes Cody into a cradle! 1...2...no! ODB tries a sunset flip but Cody grabs the ropes! The ref kicks his hands off! 2 count only!!! DEANER HITS THE KNOCKOUT PUNCH! 1...2...NO! ODB fights back and hits the TKO! 1...2...3!!!

Winner: ODB via pinfall (TKO)
Rating: They were on a hiding to nothing here, as man vs woman can be impossible to book. They did about as well as one could expect given the terrible story, which is why it isn't a dud, and the result was at least the right one.

JB is with Kurt Angle. He wants to know if Kurt has bitten off more than he can chew. Kurt laughs that off and says Morgan is stupid. His biceps don't matter because he has no brain to go with it. Morgan will end up another statistic. As for AJ, Kurt says he loves fairy tales but tonight won't have a happy ending.

Legend's Title/$50,000 Bounty Match: Kevin Nash vs. Abyss

Mick Foley is out to do some commentary, with his barbed wire baseball bat. That won't factor in the decision AT ALL, I'm sure. Abyss is out in his hobo gear, hoodie and all. Of course he still manages to wave at the fans. Just to show off how stupid the booking for this guy has been, he does his trademark arm-crossing pose followed by his silly clap. Nash is all in red tonight and is not looking any younger. The ref has a red duffel bag allegedly containing the money.

Nash starts with a kneelift and lays in some stiff rights. Whip by Nash, Abyss ducks the clothesline and hits some rights of his own before running into a Nash clothesline. Trademark knees in the corner by Nash followed by the foot choke. More knees in the corner, Abyss reverses a whip and gets an avalanche in the corner. He tries for another but Nash gets a knee up. Goozle! Abyss also gets a goozle! Nash fights him off then clotheslines him up and over! Nash goes for a chair but misses. Abyss takes Nash's head to the railing and then the steel steps. Taz and Foley are comparing notes about being yelled at through their headsets. Abyss rolls Nash back in then goes around the ring to get in himself, before he notices Dr. Stevie sitting on a chair at the top of the ramp. Nash uses this to his advantage and gets a big boot. Back elbows in the corner by Nash, then he chokes Abyss over the middle rope. OMG NASH LEFT HIS FEET TWICE! Elbow drop and a Hogan leg drop get 2. Goozle by Nash, Abyss elbows out and hits a flying clothesline. Avalanche in the corner by Abyss, a side slam and a cover gets 2! Dr Stevie comes down to ringside and the ref is distracted...Daffney is out with a tazer!!!! BLACK HOLE SLAM on Daffney! Abyss has the tazer and stalks Nash...Stevie snatches it! Again the ref is distracted...Nash has a chair...WHAM home run swing! Back back back back...gone! Abyss's head is out of the park! Cover, the ref is out of position! 1...2...NO!!! Nash sets for the Jackknife, Abyss is too big! CHOKESLAM by Abyss! 1...2...2.9003! Abyss points to Foley and asks for the bat! Foley says the ref is right there but brings it anyway! The ref of course goes out to stop that, and Nash has the tazer! TO THE NUTS! SIZZLING BALLS! 1...2...3!!!

Winner: Kevin Nash via pinfall (Abyss' nuts roasting on an open tazer)
Rating: Yup, same as the match before. Abyss is a good big man, but he's not good enough to carry an old, broken-down Nash to a good match. The rating here is largely due to Daffney being awesome and the hilarious image of the finish.

Post match Dr. Stevie tries to snatch the bag, Nash dislikes this option and decides a Jackknife to the good doctor is a far better plan. He leaves with the belt and the money.

Lethal Lockdown Match: Beer Money vs. Team 3D vs. Scott Steiner and Booker T vs. The British Invasion

Am I alone in thinking that Lethal Lockdown matches should be saved for Lockdown? While they build the structure Taz and Tenay witter on about the rules of the match.

Doug Williams is out first. I'd imagine that Roode or Storm will be out for the faces. Yup, it's Storm. Williams charges him on the ramp but Storm spits beer in his face and then drops him on the ramp. He takes Williams' head to the steps and rolls him in, but Williams catches Storm with a knee on the way in. Whip by Williams and a charging clothesline, they fight over who will go into the cage, but give up on that as Storm gets a back elbow into a charging Williams. Tornado inverted DDT by Storm, but there are no covers yet. Whip and a clothesline by Storm. Williams gets a jawbreaker then chokes Storm with his own shirt. Whip reversed, BIG back body drop by Storm. Eye of the Storm connects! Now it's Storm's turn to choke Williams with the shirt. Williams gets a low blow and tries a suplex, Storm blocks it and levels him with a clothesline. Again they fight over who's going into the cage. Williams gets a European uppercut but Storm goes to the eyes and drops him with a right. The countdown is on and here comes Brutus Magnus. Storm tries to dropkick the cage door into Brutus Magnus, Magnus avoids it and then slams the cage door into Storm who was whipped into it by Williams! Ouch. They hit the same double-team takedown that The Beautiful People hit earlier, then launch Storm into the cage. Knee drop by Williams and storm is cut. nRights by Magnus to the wound as the countdown is on. I'd say Roode. Yup. Clotheslines everywhere! Back body drop for Williams and a spinebuster for Magnus! He is a house! En! FUEGO~! Elbows in the corner by Roode on Williams, a whip and Roode charges into an elbow. Williams goes for a sunset flip but Roode blocks and catapults him into a DDT by Storm! Nice. Charging clothesline to Magnus in the corner, snap mare by Storm, neck snap by Roode and a knee drop by Storm. They set for the double suplex on Williams but Magnus breaks it up. Inverted atomic by Roode and a backstabber by Storm. They take Both Magnus and Williams to the cage as the countdown hits...Steiner is out. Interesting to have him out before Booker. Clothesline for Roode, one for Storm and a pair of suplexes. Rights to Roode in to corner, a whip and Steiner charges into a boot. Roode goes up top but Steiner goes up with him and we have our requisite PPV top rope Frankensteiner. Steiner and Magnus throw Roode into the cage, javelin-style, then repeat the exercise with Storm. Countdown is on again and we have Devon. Right hands for everyone! Steiner gets a whip on Devon but he runs right through Steiner. Thesz press to Magnus! Now the faces are all teeing off on a heel. Double clohtesline to Steiner. This is the lull period I guess. Roode is beating on Steiner, Devon is on...Williams. Booker T is out and is in no hurry, posing at the top of the ramp with the tag titles before lesiurely strolling to the ring. He goes right for Roode and gets the arm wrench and kick, then hits the Harlem sidekick on Devon. Magnus and Williams work over Storm before Booker hits a superkick. Steiner is squishing Roode's head in the cage door! 10 seconds til Ray. Here he comes, and now we can have weapons. BIG ROB! He takes out Ray on the ramp and then waffles him with a chair! OK dude be huge. He tells the guy who controls the cage to lower the roof of the cage, and frankly when Big Rob tells you to do something, you do it. Steiner hits a big clothesline on Storm. Steeiner is getting a trash can which he deposits on Roode's head. Magnus has a crutch and he drives it into Devon's neck. Ray is trying to get to the ring but Big ROb is still out there...with a chair...he misses! Ray KILLS Big Rob with a chair shot! In comes Ray and everyone gets a chair shot! Devon has a trash can lid and nails a shot. Slam on Booker, Ray puts a trash can on Booker's groin and CRUSHES it with the crutch! Roode waffles a Brit with a trash can, can't tell which Brit though. Magnus is on top of the cage and Storm has gone up to join him. This also cannot end well. Storm is dangling off the side of the cage with Magnus standing over him...Roode from behind with a crutch shot! Oh damn...oh this won't tickle...DOUBLE SUPLEX ON THE CAGE ROOF! Wait for it...wait for it...


BEER! MONEY~!

Magnus may be broken in two. Meanwhile, 3D hit the 3D on Steiner but Booker and Williams hit chair and trash can shots. Book End on Ray gets 2. Booker charges with the trash can but connects with Williams! Storm nails him with a trash can! BLOCKBUSTER by Roode! Roode sets for DWI...connects! 1...2...3!

Winners: Beer Money Inc and Team 3D via pinfall (Storm on Booker, DWI)
Rating: ***½ This would have been higher had they not had a long lull in the middle of the match. Obviously when you're going about 20 minutes you can't go all-out the whole time, but the middle 5 really dragged. They did weave some nice spots in towards the end, and having Big Rob try and interfere was intelligent. The weapons spots were largely uninteresting but they did their job.

Rhyno is with Lauren. He says real men wrestle. He doesn't care about MMA. There's no octagon, there's a six-sided TNA ring. Rhino gives us a few reasons why they call him the war machine, with not one mention of Jim Rhodes.

Bobby Lashley vs Rhino

Lashley looks almost as ginormous as Big Rob. There's a match they need to book: HGH on a Pole, Bobby Lashley vs Big Rob.

Tenay and Taz are kissing Lashley's ass already. Rhino charges before the bell but Lashley is ready and beats the hell out of him. Snap suplex by Lashley gets 2. Whip and a charge by Lashley, Rhino tags him with a sick right hand but runs into a Lashley clothesline. Rhino bails and Lashley goes to get him. He slams Rhino's head to the apron and hits some elbows to the back of Rhino's head, but loses his concentration and gets whipped into the railing. Rhino goes in to break the count, why didn't he just stay inside and take the countout win? Lashley gets rolled back in and eats a spinebuster. Impressive. 1...2...no. Shots to the back now by Rhino in the corner. Forearm shiver to the back and more clubbing blows. Chinlock applied by Rhino. Lashley fights out but gets leveled with a clothesline for 2. Back to the chinlock now. Never really noticed it before but Rhino's offence is really boring. Lashley again fights out and hits a big back elbow. Both men are down, they get up at 7. Lashlley avoids a charge and hits a hip toss and a clothesline. Whip and a charging clothesline and some serious shoulder blocks to the midsection in the corner. Rhino is cut open above the left eye. Gutbuster over the shoulder by Lashley and damn Rhino is a mess. Lashley charges for a Spear and CATCHES THE REF! Lashley checks on the ref, but turns into a Gore, GORE, GORE~! New ref! 1...2...No!!! Rhino sets for another Gore...he runs into a big right hand! 1...2...3? Really?

Winner: Bobby Lashley via pinfall (punch. No, really)
Rating: Ugh. Rhino controlled the match and was boring. Lashley's offence looked a little better than I remembered but who the hell thought a punch was a good idea for a finish? This did nothing for me whatsoever.

JB is with Sting and AJ Styles. He asks AJ where his mind is, since he was about to quit a couple of weeks ago. AJ says he only has winning on his mind. Not Georgia? Sting woke him up and he's going to show the world that he is the best at what he does. Sting wants to know if AJ is ready. No, he said ARE YOU READY? Wait, my bad. Wrong show. It's Showtime, allegedly.

Video package. These have been great all night.

Four-Way TNA World Title Match: Kurt Angle © vs. Matt Morgan vs. Sting vs. AJ Styles

JB is doing the über-special ring announcing and is even more annoying than normal. As the camera pans to Angle, you can see a female in the background tapping her arm in the universal "speed it up" gesture. HERNANDEZ! Oh damn.



Cashing in! Hernandez is now part of this match!

Four-Way TNA World Title Match: Kurt Angle © vs. Matt Morgan vs. Sting vs. AJ Styles vs. Hernandez

I thought maybe Hernandez had a shot at leaving with the belt, but cashing in now likely means he won't. It makes no sense going to Bound for Glory with a face champ. Angle is bitching to everyone about this decision, then slaps Hernandez. DUMB. Hernandez levels him with a clothesline then shoulder tackles him across the ring. He hip tosses him back across the ring, then takes him up for the vertical suplex! Delaying...delaying...delaying...Sting, Morgan and AJ are just watching. He finally drops him and that had to be a full minute. Hernandez clotheslines Angle up and over and we have the opening bell. Sting and AJ try to get quick pins on Morgan in the ring, then try to double team him. He hurls AJ into the corner while Hernandez suplexes Angle on the ramp. Avalanche to AJ in the ring, Morgan throws him to the floor then gets a scoop slam on Sting for 2. Angle is being beaten silly by Hernandez on the ramp. OH GOD a Border Toss! ERIC YOUNG IS OUT! He takes out the knee of Hernandez with a nightstick then piledirves him on the stage!!!!! In the ring, Sting and AJ play tennis with Matt Morgan as the ball. Double suplex to Morgan, who rolls to the floor. Sting and AJ face off while paramedics tend to Hernandez. SWANK dropkick to Sting by AJ. Angle has made his way to ringside, AJ tries a somersault tope to Morgan and Angle but it seems like he missed. Not sure if that was planned or not. Sting comes outside but Morgan takes him to the railing. Morgan and Angle have an agreement now! Sting takes Morgan to the rail, inside the ring Kurt has AJ up for a tombstone! AJ reverses! Angle rolls through and applies the ankle lock! AJ counters to a rollup! 1...2...no. Headscissors by AJ and Angle goes to the floor. Baseball slide into a head scissors is fluffed by AJ but they go through with it anyway. Morgan and Sting are in the ring now and Morgan tosses the elbow pads for that vicious alternating elbows spot. Avalanche by Morgan and a release side slam for 2. Angle hits a backbreaker on AJ on the floor. He goes inside and he and Morgan take it in turns nailing Sting with right hands. Morgan holds Sting in place while Angle goes to the body. Angle cuts off AJ who is trying to get back in, then kneels on the back of Sting's neck. Morgan stands on his head. AJ WITH THE SPRINGBOARD FOREARM ON ANGLE! He goes after Morgan and tries a crossbody...bad plan. Fair catch by Morgan, he talks the talk before throwing AJ overhead. Sting catches Morgan in the knee with a few kicks then clotheslines Angle up and over, only to eat a Morgan clothesline. 2 count for Morgan on Sting. AJ now goes to work on Morgan but turns into an overhead belly to belly from Angle. Angle kicks Sting to the floor and body slams AJ. Morgan tosses AJ across the ring with a body slam. Big leg drop by Morgan. Whip by Angle, he charges but AJ moves and Angle gets the post! DROPKICK BY MORGAN! Good grief! That was impressive. Morgan hits the Boss Man attack on AJ who is draped over the top rope. 1...2...no. Whip, AJ holds on to the ropes and avoids the charge...PELE TO MORGAN! Release German by Angle on AJ! MISSILE DROPKICK by Sting on Angle! Everybody is down. We haven't seen or heard anything about Hernandez since the piledriver. Sting, Morgan and Angle are up. Punches and a scoop slam for Angle and Morgan, Stinger splash to both men! 10-count punches on Morgan, Angle goes up behind him and hits the Angle Slam! 1...2...AJ breaks it! AJ counters the Angle Slam into the Styles Clash! 1...2...Morgan breaks it! Enziguiri to Morgan by AJ! Morgan reverses a whip but runs into double boots, AJ goes up top, he leaps...INTO THE BOOT! HELLEVATOR to AJ! 1...2...Sting breaks it! Scorpion Deathdrop on Morgan! 1...2...Angle breaks it! Yeah, this works. Whip by Angle, Sting avoids the charge and gets a single leg! Scorpion Deathlock half-applied...ANKLE LOCK! Angle drags him to the middle of the ring! CARBON FOOTPRINT on Angle! Sting low-bridges Morgan and Angle is out! Sting and AJ lock eyes and Sting goes over the top into Morgan! AJ HITS THE SPRINGBOARD 450!! 1...2...3!!!!!!!!!!

Winner: AJ Styles via pinfall (on Angle, springboard 450)
Rating: **** I don't get or like the cashing in, this is the second time Hernandez cashed in without being in the ring when the bell rang. I wonder if they'll give him back his case again. Regardless, the match that followed was excellent, maybe a little over-rated at 4 flakes but I thought it flowed very well and told the right story, especially with Morgan booting Angle and Sting stepping aside for AJ...as long as Sting doesn't win AGAIN at BFG.

Daniels hits the ring to celebrate with AJ as confetti falls. This. Is. Awkward. The ring fills up with fans as AJ celebrates.

A very hit-or-miss show. Almost literally, as half the matches are worth looking for and half could have been left off the card and nobody would have cared. TNA continues to do wonders in terms of production, and the match quality is delivering in most cases, but the questionable booking decisions remain. AJ as champ into Bound For Glory tends to suggest a loss and Hernandez getting his case back and cashing in, otherwise I don't get why his win didn't wait until BFG. At least I didn't feel like I wasted my Sunday night!


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Great PPV

Posted By: cesarmania (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:03 PM

 
 
Congrats to AJ Styles. He really deserves this.

Posted By: Jeremy from Palmdale (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM

 
 
why no ratings?

Posted By: deepak (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM

 
 
Told you so.

Posted By: The Voices In Your Head (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:10 PM

 
 
average pay per view just nothing was that great apart from aj winning

Posted By: Guest#4204 (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:12 PM

 
 
opener was good, didn't care for the squash, joe/daniels would've been motn had it not been for aj winning the title, the pope vs suicide match took too much time in getting down the ring but it got better once they got there, odb vs deaner was better than it should've been BUT I still didn't care for it, lethal lockdown was good, and as for the ME, I didn't like the fact that hernandez cashed in his case and lost but I did like the fact that they FINNALLY put the belt on AJ Styles in what was a good match setting up what will most likely be a career vs title match at BFG. AJ is your wrestler of the week for 411mania.....I mean, how could he not be?

Posted By: cj (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM

 
 
Way to go AJ, but Chris, what was awkward about the celebration

Posted By: Bill (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM

 
 
sounds pretty decent i guess, but u fuckin blow Hernandez cashing in the briefcase to further a feud with Eric Young? Thats fuckin stupid. Fuck You Russo

Posted By: ShowTimeSince79 (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM

 
 
AJ winning the title should of been a massive deal... so who thought putting the title on him in a 4 way 1 month BEFORE there biggest PPV is an idiot.

I just don't get TNA its really rubbish sometimes.

So Sting gets ANOTHER main event at BFG against AJ I suppose.


Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM

 
 
average...solid ending at least.

Posted By: ehhh (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:16 PM

 
 
why no ratings?

Posted By: deepak (Guest) on September 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM

I see ratings.


Posted By: Guest#2107 (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
Russo did this?

Posted By: Guest#8011 (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:20 PM

 
 
oh and Nash/abyss wasn't anything to hoot and holler about, neither was rhino/lashley although it wasn't a squash as I thought it would be.

Posted By: cj (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:21 PM

 
 
Great PPV

Posted By: cesarmania (Guest) on September 20, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Good not Great the Cody Deaner/ODB The Beautiful People/ Sarita/Taylor Wilde
Rhino Lashly drug it down


Posted By: Newavesuck (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:25 PM

 
 
This company is going places with AJ at the top. Russo's hitting homeruns left and right.

Posted By: pic369 (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:26 PM

 
 
AJ Styles - WRESTLER OF THE MONTH

4-Time Triple Crown Champion.


Posted By: JF (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM

 
 
meh show overall. The main event was *** tops and was a plodder and a half. I did however enjoy Daniels/Joe even if it was 15 minutes long.

Posted By: bob (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM

 
 
It's a good thing I decided to sign with the best company in the world. TNA is bush league to me.

Posted By: CM Punk (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:41 PM

 
 
You know what? Some people might call for my head to be taken off but if these are the kind of shows we're getting from now on with Russo in charge then more power to him. Let's face it ever since TNA released Mantell, Vega, and others and with Jarrett at home the quality of their shows has gone up. Tonight was another example.

Posted By: Michael (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:43 PM

 
 
The ROH show I was at last night was a hell of a lot better than this crap they called a PPV.

Posted By: Me.... (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:46 PM

 
 
Who the hell thought a punch was a good idea for a finish???

Obviously Vince Mcmahon did since the Big Show has been using a punch to beat people the past few months


Posted By: random (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:46 PM

 
 
I held aj on my shoulder with daniels. One of the best moments of my life

Posted By: JP (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:47 PM

 
 
I think you over that main event a bit. Its *** to ***1/2 at best. AJ is was the MVP of the match and deserves to be the world champ.

Posted By: Lino C. (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:50 PM

 
 
I'm thinking AJ vs Sting at BFG for the title, and Sting (finally) passes the torch. If they give it their all, it should be excellent.

Jeez...new baby, new TNA champion, main eventing TNA's biggest event of the year, possibly against one of the greatest of all time...how awesome is AJ Styles' life right now?

Meanwhile, Morgan and Angle finally have their blowoff...perhaps a blowoff to the entire MEM storyline. If they can solidify Matt Morgan as a new homegrown star through a great main event level program with Angle, then the year long Mafia thing will have been worth it.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:51 PM

 
 
TNA? GOOD PPV?

WHAT
THE
FUCK?


Posted By: The Rev (Guest)  on September 20, 2009 at 11:54 PM

 
 
Sounds like something Id pay 10 bucks to see at the local high school gymnasium.

Posted By: Guest#7989 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:00 AM

 
 
"Lashley's offence looked a little better than I remembered but who the hell thought a punch was a good idea for a finish?"

Uhhh... Big Show?


Posted By: Highscore Kid (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM

 
 
The only reason the celebration felt awkward was that it seemed like that moment should have waited til BFG, but other than that I didnt mind the celebration. I also thought, for what it was, a comedy match, that ODB/Deaner could have been WAY worse(IE Chavo vs Hornswaggle with the goofy stips) Good ppv at least 7 out of 10 stars

Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM

 
 
Pretty good ppv imo. Outside of Nash Vs Abyss(and that wasn't as bad as expected)no matches were bad. Daniels Vs Joe was nowhere as good as their matches back in '05 but still pretty damn good. It got nearly 15 minutes and had lots of heat. The counters at the end were done really well. I would like to see them face each other at BFG. Pretty amazing that OBD had a better match with Deaner than she had with Kong in the past. The Lethal Lockdown match was slow at times but good for the most part. Beer Money is the not only the best tag team around but pretty much the most over act in the company. Say what you will about Steiner but his promos are always entertaining and while he's a shell of his old self he still busts his ass in the ring. Booker T on the other end cuts ridiculously nonsensical promos and really has given little to no effort in the ring. I miss the old Abyss his character has been pretty terrible for a year or so now. He needs Mitchell back and he needs to go back to his old way from 3-4 years ago. It worked for him. Pope Vs Suicide was pretty good and Dinero is pretty over but not a big fan of his promos so far. The Main Event was a terrific match with the right guy going over. A.J has busted his ass and stolen the show at almost ever ppv since TNA has started and it's been a long 4+ years since he's held the title. Nice to see no swerves or anything like that. Looking forward to Impact as well as the build toward BFG.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:17 AM

 
 
didnt watch the ppv, watched my pathetic fricking qb throw the ball to blue jerseys all night but I'm not bitter, but it does read like a hit and miss show. I like AJ as the champ but you would think the change would have been at the grandmommy of them all and not in a ppv before in a 5 way dance. kind of cheapens it in a way. everyone wanted to see AJ pin Angle one on one and end the MEM storyline but that's not what we got and it's kind of a disappointment really. i hope they know what they're doing, it'd be nice to see the ratings pop a little more with aj but who knows anymore

Posted By: faceman802 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:30 AM

 
 
thank god one of the originals gets to hold the title...drop it to hernandez or whoever later...but for the love of god not sting, angle, foley, lashley of kennedy if he shows up

Posted By: christy (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:35 AM

 
 
I'll give them this one as "having to book out from under the old regime" is never fun.

I'll give credit to Russo here -- he's finished all of the old angles that were started before the power shift (ODB/Deaner, Hernandez and the case), and other ones are starting nicely.

The simple fact is that people wanted Hernandez to win, but they don't want him to beat AJ to do it. Having Hernandez cash in at the end of the match would have been stupid a hundred different ways (since AJ had to win).

So, he cashes in at the beginning of the match (because he's a face, and that's the noble thing, though not smart, thing to do), and Young stops his payday, making people angry at Eric Young. The heel. Who recently made his tag team partner turn. Actual logical booking.

Plus, it takes that annoying question of having the briefcase out of the equation, so Hernandez can feud with the World Elite.

Meanwhile, AJ wins the title, making the scene interesting, to say the least, and makes me REALLY curious as to what they'll be doing for BFG.

From a logical standpoint, it would have made sense to have the title switch wait until then. But the MEM/Frontline crap has been dead and buried since the first Sting/Angle match, so why prolong it any more?

Where to go from here with AJ as champ? I expect he does the "fighting champion" deal, but I don't know what it could lead into going into BFG.

Unless (and this is just pissing in the wind) they do face vs face, AJ vs Daniels.


Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:38 AM

 
 
"Lashley's offence looked a little better than I remembered but who the hell thought a punch was a good idea for a finish?"

Uhhh... Big Show?


Well, he's like almost 500 lbs and his fist is half the size of most of the wrestlers faces. I'll buy his fist knocking someone the hell out.

Lashehly though-well, I guess I'd have to see it first-but he shuld have ended with something a little more impactful.


Posted By: Jerry (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 01:18 AM

 
 
We're going to get one of two things

AJ vs. Sting

or Winner takes all: AJ vs. Joe


Posted By: Guest#7960 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 01:25 AM

 
 
at bound for glory it will be-

foley vs abyss in monstor ball match
sting vs styles
bear money vs stiener and booker t
angle vs morgan
kong vs tara
joe vs daniels vs pope
nash vs jarrett
and some stupid gimmick match which can include all other x division stars


Posted By: deepak (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 01:43 AM

 
 
Good show overall glad to see Aj win. for everybody who thinks it should have been at bfg i would be shocked if bfg is not all about sting last match on ppv if not in wrestling he is an icon a deserves a great sendoff so i expect sting to lose to aj and dont be suprised to see all the wrestlers come down to ring side to say thanks if not at bfg then on empact

Posted By: T-BONE (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 01:56 AM

 
 
Ok listen, I'm not a senseless TNA basher - if something is good, I admit something is good. Above all else I am a wrestling fan, so I don't care where the good wrestling comes from (WWE, TNA, ROH). That being said, the main event was an abomination!!! 1. Hernandez being involved was absolutely pointless. No matter what you do, Eric Young will never be taken seriously as a menacing threat. Give it up, Cornette is right to chew creative out for this one! 2. The crowd was dead for the entire match. Someone also MUST explain, why the bell to begin the match rang AFTER hernandez and angle LEFT the ring...considering there was a god 60 seconds of offense in the ring prior. 3. Matt Morgan just screams INDY wrestler. Ok, he's big and has a semi-decent look. Main eventers don't come out, pose with signs from the crowd, talk to the camera, etc. It's amateur! Plus, I get what he's trying to do with his sidewalk slam and powerslam by just dropping the opponent. Right, he doesn't care...wreckless...dangerous. Ok. But the moves look like shit, and have little impact. It's also unsafe for the opponent to take, so stop being an asshole Morgan and learn how to wrestle. 4. There was just NO big match atmosphere to the match at all. It was very choppy, and the fact that Angle and Morgan teamed up just made no sense. If I'm not mistaken, these two had the most heat coming into the match! The only thing I enjoyed was the finish, with Sting voluntarily giving AJ the opportunity to shine. Outside of that - a horrid main event. ** at most!

Posted By: Save_Us_411 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 01:59 AM

 
 
yeah, I was gonna say, four guys in a TNA World Title match? no way would that be enough...

Posted By: KanyonKreist (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 02:10 AM

 
 
Well, I give TNA credit for integrating new talent into the main event picture. I'm just not crazy about always having four way dances in main events for world titles.

I'm probably pretty solidly in the minority of IWC fans that think Styles is vastly overrated and won't draw as a champion, but he wasn't helped a bit by winning a four-way. Let him beat the champ one on one! Make it mean something.


Posted By: chumpstain (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 02:29 AM

 
 
SOunds like everyone is happy Jarrett left. TNA seems to be on a comeback trail. Hummmm Jerettless=rating?? Interesting

Posted By: John (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 03:27 AM

 
 
The means to the end of making AJ Styles the TNA champion were so flawed.

Posted By: KANE (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 03:42 AM

 
 
Giving AJ Styles the gold now is a very good thing if it leads to a Career vs Title match at BFG against Sting. That way, Sting retires at the top and AJ gets to be the first man to retain against Sting at BFG.

However, if that is not the match, or if AJ loses the gold next month, then it's a very bad thing. Follow up will be key here, and that worries me given who is booking.


Posted By: Quimby (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 04:00 AM

 
 
The 2,000 that bought the PPV thought it was a good show.

Posted By: Guest#6816 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 04:49 AM

 
 
Russo's hitting homeruns left and right.

Posted By: pic369 (Guest) on September 20, 2009 at 11:26 PM

I just lol'ed


Posted By: Forrest (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 04:49 AM

 
 
Big Show's punch comes from someone 7' tall and over 500 pounds. It's more credible.

The celebration was awkward because I got Mania XX flashbacks. Am I alone?

The more I think about it, the more I can logically see Hernandez getting his case back like he did the first time he cashed it in. He was never actually IN the match, when the bell rang he was outside the ring and never got back in.


Posted By: Lansdellicious (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 05:13 AM

 
 
Wow so TNA actually get the booking right for once (largely) in a PPV and there's nothing horrible match-wise! The not so good ones were quite watchable and there was about 3 or 4 pretty stand out matches. Overall it was a positive TNA experience.

The Hernandez in the main event bit was arkward but it served its purpose to further the feud he's got going with EY and WE.

TBP are just not the same without Angelina, yet Velvet managed to deliver a better performance than usual.


Posted By: Guest#3155 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 05:39 AM

 
 
Sounds like Lashley tanked, hopefully this means he wont be getting the Main Event shot at BFG.

Posted By: JAK (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 05:39 AM

 
 
"Am I alone in thinking that Lethal Lockdown matches should be saved for Lockdown?"

No, you most certainly are not. IMO It's almost like the WWE having a Royal Rumble at Summerslam. ;)


Posted By: Guy (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 06:04 AM

 
 
Ok listen, I'm not a senseless TNA basher - if something is good, I admit something is good. Above all else I am a wrestling fan, so I don't care where the good wrestling comes from (WWE, TNA, ROH). That being said, the main event was an abomination!!! 1. Hernandez being involved was absolutely pointless. No matter what you do, Eric Young will never be taken seriously as a menacing threat. Give it up, Cornette is right to chew creative out for this one! 2. The crowd was dead for the entire match. Someone also MUST explain, why the bell to begin the match rang AFTER hernandez and angle LEFT the ring...considering there was a god 60 seconds of offense in the ring prior. 3. Matt Morgan just screams INDY wrestler. Ok, he's big and has a semi-decent look. Main eventers don't come out, pose with signs from the crowd, talk to the camera, etc. It's amateur! Plus, I get what he's trying to do with his sidewalk slam and powerslam by just dropping the opponent. Right, he doesn't care...wreckless...dangerous. Ok. But the moves look like shit, and have little impact. It's also unsafe for the opponent to take, so stop being an asshole Morgan and learn how to wrestle. 4. There was just NO big match atmosphere to the match at all. It was very choppy, and the fact that Angle and Morgan teamed up just made no sense. If I'm not mistaken, these two had the most heat coming into the match! The only thing I enjoyed was the finish, with Sting voluntarily giving AJ the opportunity to shine. Outside of that - a horrid main event. ** at most!

Posted By: Save_Us_411 (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 01:59 AM

We all would wish that you shut the hell up. The main event was awesome, hands down. They had Hernandez cash in since next month is another "Feast or Fired" match and the title contract is only good for one year and I admire him for wanting to EARN the title...not WIN it after someone went through a long match or beatdown (see: Punk, Edge, Homicide)

Your diatribe does not count.


Posted By: IWC (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 06:10 AM

 
 
Good wrestling and tv values..some decent storyline ideas..but shit hyperactive booking for me.
Why are we having a 4-way in the main-event, when the heat has been built between Angle and Morgan?
How does Sting becoming a mentor to AJ relate to that?
Why would Hernandez choose to cash in then? His heat is with EY and Homicide.
Has his crusade to get his briefcase back and the betrayal by Homicide and courting by world elite been resolved?
Why when Angle is "all about the title" would he go straight after Hernandez, when his angle has been getting Morgan's support and he is now in a 5-way?
Etc, et-fucking-cetera
I just wish TNA would slow the fuck down and book simply but intelligently.
Give me 2/3 storylines as a main event I give a fuck about and explore them and I'd buy the ppv's with their talent. Give me a fucking mess, where every angle and side character has to weave in and out of the main story and is told from 8 different pov's at once and it is unsatisfying.
It pisses me off, because I enjoy the wrestling of a lot of their talent, the characters involved and the basis of the storylines are fine, it's just paced so fucking erractically and convoluted it falls apart and doesn't give much emotional attachment.


Posted By: Guest#9916 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 06:31 AM

 
 
Good review BUT I have an issue with your final paragraph.

I hate that IWCers decide to take booking into the equation when rating a ppv.

Just go with what you see and dont "decide" what long term may or may not be harmful for the company.


Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 07:30 AM

 
 
Well, I give TNA credit for integrating new talent into the main event picture. I'm just not crazy about always having four way dances in main events for world titles.

I'm probably pretty solidly in the minority of IWC fans that think Styles is vastly overrated and won't draw as a champion, but he wasn't helped a bit by winning a four-way. Let him beat the champ one on one! Make it mean something.

Posted By: chumpstain (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 02:29 AM
=======
What Russo ultimately did was exactly what they did when he and Bischoff took over Nitro...they blew up everything that the other guys were doing and started over from scratch.

I'm amazed at the amount of people who are pissed Hernandez not winning with the brief case. Does it really matter? Its unrealistic to think that cause he HAD the brief case that he was going to win it. He is going to win the world title anyway within the next year, so it really doesn't matter.

We can't have short memories here folks. Its not going to be perfect, but the product is making strides. Remember when TNA's idea of "pushing" AJ and Joe was having Team 3D and Rhino of all people LEAD them and take all of the shine? How many "advisors" has Joe had in his TNA career as an excuse to give some old has been an on air job?

Now we have Matt Morgan (who is a different type of personality than we've seen before in this type of position, IMO) fueding with the "best in the world" and AJ Styles as world champ about to mainevent the biggest PPV of the year and FINALLY beat Sting (hopefully). We have Elijah Burke getting clean wins over "credible" talent (remember when all we wanted was for him to get a push in WWE because he had "it") and we have Hernandez on the outside track to the mainevent scene.

Only thing I don't like his Eric Young getting this monster push. I think he is OK, but he "tries to hard" in his interviews and he just doesn't come across as credible as a leader of men. Stables are only has strong as their leader and right now the WE doesn't look nearly as good as they could. Maybe Homicide takes over and changes the name to something more suiting...

Sorry for the novel, but I'm gonna focus on the good and not the bad...I know thats a novel concept for this message board...


Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 07:47 AM

 
 
"Who the hell thought a punch was a good idea for a finish???
Obviously Vince Mcmahon did since the Big Show has been using a punch to beat people the past few months
Posted By: random"

Show's fist is the size of a normal man's head. A fist by Show is believable. A fist by TwinkleToes is not. I guess he's such a bad@ss at MMA all it takes is one punch whereas the entire roster can beat on each other all day without so much as a black eye.

Hands of Stone Ron Garvin is spinning around in one of his used cars right now.


Posted By: demOcratic (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 08:22 AM

 
 
AJ Styles is the NEW TNA World Champion??? When was he in the WWE????

Posted By: Guest#7076 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 08:51 AM

 
 
It's so funny to laugh at the WWE fanboys who contiue to bash TNA for finally doing the right thing and putting the World Title on one of their homegrown stars.

First off, for everyone complaining about him winning it in a four way, were you the same idiots who were blowing WWE when Benoit won the title in a 3-way?

Also, for all of those bitches crying about him winning the title one month before their biggest PPV, what about all of those times the World Title has changed hands prior to Wrestlemania?

Get over yourselves and quit being jealous at the fact there is one World Champion who actually has talent.

AJ Styles>CM Punk>Cena


Posted By: JR (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 09:18 AM

 
 
The celebration was awkward because I got Mania XX flashbacks. Am I alone?

Posted By: Lansdellicious (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 05:13 AM

You mean AJ Styles will die in hotel room 2 years later and Daniels will die for drinking and driving, killing his family 2 years after that?


Posted By: Dixie Carter (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 09:54 AM

 
 
Good wrestling and tv values..some decent storyline ideas..but shit hyperactive booking for me.
Why are we having a 4-way in the main-event, when the heat has been built between Angle and Morgan?
How does Sting becoming a mentor to AJ relate to that?
Why would Hernandez choose to cash in then? His heat is with EY and Homicide.
Has his crusade to get his briefcase back and the betrayal by Homicide and courting by world elite been resolved?
Why when Angle is "all about the title" would he go straight after Hernandez, when his angle has been getting Morgan's support and he is now in a 5-way?
Etc, et-fucking-cetera
I just wish TNA would slow the fuck down and book simply but intelligently.
Give me 2/3 storylines as a main event I give a fuck about and explore them and I'd buy the ppv's with their talent. Give me a fucking mess, where every angle and side character has to weave in and out of the main story and is told from 8 different pov's at once and it is unsatisfying.
It pisses me off, because I enjoy the wrestling of a lot of their talent, the characters involved and the basis of the storylines are fine, it's just paced so fucking erractically and convoluted it falls apart and doesn't give much emotional attachment.

Posted By: Guest#9916 (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 06:31 AM
======
I hear ya, but I think what they were going for was actually a slow burn for the Angle vs Morgan and AJ vs Sting at BFG. The four way pretty much set BOTH of those matches up all in one swoop.

Someone posted that Freast or Fired will happen against next month, so that is most likely why it didn't happen. PLUS by having him LOSE his cash in attempt, it makes the case of some else winning that more interesting because it adds a sense of uncertainty to the equation.

I do think they should have announced that his one year time limit was quickly approaching though. That would have made sense...


Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM

 
 
Yo AJ, I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish, but Kurt Angle is the best TNA Champ of ALL TIME.. All time..!!

Posted By: Kanye West (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 10:18 AM

 
 
"I'm probably pretty solidly in the minority of IWC fans that think Styles is vastly overrated and won't draw as a champion, but he wasn't helped a bit by winning a four-way. Let him beat the champ one on one! Make it mean something.

Posted By: chumpstain (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 02:29 AM"

AJ won't draw? Name me someone who does draw? Angle? Sting? Foley? No, ratings are basically the same. Cena or HHH could come to TNA and the ratings wouldn't budge. Hell even in WWE nobody really draws, the ratings basically stay about the same weather Orton, Cena, HHH, Jericho, Punk, or Hardy have the belt. AJ will be fine, and they will build a passing of the torch story between AJ and Sting. And lets face it, BFG is no Wrestlemania, no matter what they say it is just 1 of 12 ppvs.
And that celebration did look awkward, AJ looked overwhelmed by the fans.


Posted By: DC (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM

 
 
Hey Hernandez, both CM Punk and Edge called, they said you're supposed to wait until the match is over.

Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:00 PM

 
 
Best part of the PPV? The HLA (Hot Lesbian Action) at the beginning. Madison needs to work on the butt shaking during her entrance ... what? They were rasslin'? ... Never mind ...

One last thought: JC was right. Why ARE they pushing Eric Young???


Posted By: gnortimer (Registered)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:05 PM

 
 
there is only one... AJ Styles.

ok, I marked like a little bitch.


Posted By: tully (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:22 PM

 
 
Get over yourselves and quit being jealous at the fact there is one World Champion who actually has talent.

AJ Styles>CM Punk>Cena

Posted By: JR (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 09:18 AM
---

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

AJ Styles better than CM Punk? Wow, I didn't know you TNAbots were that delusional. CM Punk blows away everything Style does.

World Champion in the biggest promotion in the world? Check
Better wrestler? Check
Better feuds? Check
More famous? Check

CM Punk > AJ Styles

Don't try to deny the facts TNA nerds. Styles wished he could be half as succesful as Punk.


Posted By: Peep (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 12:25 PM

 
 
Ok everybody! I said that I will do this for every PPV, and I ain't lying! Time for the TNA No Surrender Awards of the Night!

Main Awards:

Match of the Night: The Pope vs. Suicidy (Yes, this will be Suicide's name from now on!), one of the MOST ENTERTAINING “Hardcore Rulez” Match in a WHILE, and these guys were on FIRE tonight!

Best of the Night: AJ IS THE CHAMP! (After busting his butt for a long, LONG, time, he finally pulls of the victory, and is the new champ in a memorable moment, and the match wasn’t half bad as well…Btw, HUGE mosh in the ring, nicely done AJ!)

Worst of the Night: ODB vs. Cody Deaner, REALLY?…Why in the HELL is this match here? I mean, REALLY? Outside of ODB going topless (which, for some reason is a turn on?), this is the WORSE than watching Tom Green and Carrot Top doing stand up!


And now it is time for the Consolation Awards:


The CDC Prevention Rope Burning Award (For a moment that MIGHT need CDC Pandemic prevention): The Beautiful People Entrance (Come on? Like you didn’t see that one coming, they had more viral yeast infections than a malt liqur)

The Lesbomania Questionable Moment (It’s the female version of the Richard Simmons Award): That Latina tag team (whatever their name is, they started out a LITTLE too happy, and they ended up a LITTLE WAY too happy. Which isn't a bad thing...)

The WTF Commentary AWESOMENESS Award: The Pope Payin His Bills (That was one of the BEST product placements I’ve EVER seen, plus it also explains why the Pope could go on his rant about rabbits and stuff...)

The “Led Zepplin” Where’s the Stage Award (For the person who can’t, well…Find the stage): AJ Styles, accidentally trying to get to the stage a LONG way away from the ACTUAL entrance. Congrats, that was DEFINITELY a smooth move, Ex-Lax, maybe the next time you MIGHT want to put the hood right BEFORE you get on stage?

FYI Jay-Z Moment of Clarity: Daffney is HOT…I mean DAMN, I would LOVE to tap that (I mean SERIOUSLY, nailin’ that would RULE. No, no, no, REALLY, tap’n that would be SWEET! Just saying.)

The Puro-wanna be “Fighting Spirit” Award (The award for the biggest No-Sell of the night): Christopher Daniels (For having his knee worked on all match, and acting like it DIDN’T happen mere 2 seconds after)


All in all, a very AMAZING PPV effort this time around by TNA. I really enjoyed most of show, and AJ getting over was a huge surprise, and a welcome one.

Maybe my optimisim is on the fritz, but MAYBE this is the "Turning Point" for TNA.

(Btw, I posted it on the No Surrender boards before this one, mostly by mistake.)


Posted By: PJL (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 02:43 PM

 
 
I think youre a bit harsh with the ratings, personally. Except maybe the Main Event. I think the Main is a little worse than you have it, but EVERYTHING else was a little better than you have it.

Posted By: jeon (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 03:26 PM

 
 
1. AJ wins the big one: Congrats, AJ! He earned it, but just before he got the win, he and Sting locked eyes. Did they do the smart thing (for a change) and plant the seeds for Sting-AJ at Bound for Glory? 2. Hernandez: You should've waited 'till after the bell to cash it in, you big, fat dumbass schmuck! 3. Angle-Morgan: Let's see where that goes from here.

Posted By: David (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 04:47 PM

 
 
Aj, I'm really happy for you. And imma let you finish, but Beyonce should be the TNA World Champion!

Posted By: K. West (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 05:38 PM

 
 
Uhhh... Big Show?

Uhhh... its not great when he does it, and he is 7ft 500 pounds so its not good for Lashley. Why would TNA copy the crapy parts of WWW? Im a huge MMA fan but MMA in wrestling doesn not work and thats the angle they were looking for here and well just no.

As for the PPV, some good matches, IMO Daniels vs Joe was the best with the main event close. However why the fuck do we have to go through some of that horseshit, Young-Hernandez, the whole Deaner bullshit and the abysml Nash vs Abyss match. Why is Nash still wrestling, why is he holding a title? Completely devalues the already near-wothless belt.


Posted By: Guest#7344 (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 06:44 PM

 
 
PJL.... Never do that again. Wet sponges can make more sense then you.

Posted By: Powers (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 07:42 PM

 
 
This was surprisingly good for a PPV done in the IMPACT zone. It could've been a throwaway. The video packages were great, oh and by the way, AJ IS THE NEW CHAMPION! THE PHENOMENAL ONE HAS RETURNED TO POWER! Next stop,LA for Bound for Glory 2009. Let's get it!

Posted By: Brian B. (Guest)  on September 21, 2009 at 08:24 PM

 
 
AJ Styles is the man.

Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on September 22, 2009 at 12:19 AM

 
 
We all would wish that you shut the hell up. The main event was awesome, hands down. They had Hernandez cash in since next month is another "Feast or Fired" match and the title contract is only good for one year and I admire him for wanting to EARN the title...not WIN it after someone went through a long match or beatdown (see: Punk, Edge, Homicide)

Your diatribe does not count.

Posted By: IWC (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 06:10 AM

Oh please, if they were serious about making Hernandez a star - OR atleast having fans take that ridiculous 'feast or fired' match seriously; they would not have booked this match in the manner they did. Have Hernandez get a shot on Impact, make it a really solid 15 minute match and have him almost win. Nobody cares about his feud with Eric Young...NO ONE. This booking did not benefit anyone. Absolute garbage.


Posted By: Save_Us_411 (Guest)  on September 22, 2009 at 12:49 AM

 
 
Aj, I'm really happy for you. And imma let you finish, but Beyonce should be the TNA World Champion!

Posted By: K. West (Guest) on September 21, 2009 at 05:38 PM

Jackass!


Posted By: B.Obama (Guest)  on September 22, 2009 at 01:37 PM

 
 
meh show overall. The main event was *** tops and was a plodder and a half. I did however enjoy Daniels/Joe even if it was 15 minutes long.

Posted By: bob (Guest) on September 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Quite how you rank the slow, dull, bland match of Joe vs Daniels over the main event I'll never know.

Is it just me or have all Daniels' matches since his return been terrible that don't include AJ?


Posted By: D (Guest)  on September 22, 2009 at 09:41 PM

 


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