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411's WWE Raw Report 10.19.09
Posted by Rob McNew on 10.19.2009





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-Snoop Dogg stops by to host Monday Night Raw on tonight's last stop on the road to Bragging Rights, and what could prove to be John Cena's final Raw ever. To commemorate the occasion we get one of the biggest main events of the year as John Cena and Triple H square off in only their fourth ever televised encounter. With the record sitting at 1-1-1 will someone gain the upperhand or are we in store for another non-finish?

-Live from the Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena in Jacksonville, FL

-Hosted by Michael Cole & Jerry "The King" Lawler

-Snoop rolls out in a pimped out pink ride, accompanied by Raw's newest divas Eve Torres and The Bella Twins. Snoop says Sunday night Raw is going to embarrass Smackdown, and he heard tonight might be John Cena's last night on Raw so he's got him fighting Triple H. He says since John Cena has to fight its only right that Randy Orton has to fight so he booked him against the man who pinned him last week Ted Dibiase. He also booked the co-captains against each other Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho. He brings out DX, and Triple H says as required by law every time Snoop is on a show white guys have to try to badly speak in Snoop Dogg language. Shawn and Hunter prove how white they are with several "izzles" and then HHH says they have put together a team of epic proportions. He says they will face the Smackdown team, and puts the team up on the titantron. First we have Jericho who both Shawn and HHH beat at Wrestlemania. Next up we have Kane, and Shawn asks if he had a fling with his ex girlfriend. HHH says she was kind of a stiff. Har har har. Next up is Cryme Tyme who can be found in the parking lot selling unused tickets, and we have the guy who introduces himself. HHH can't remember his name, and then he has no clue who they are. Shawn says we can't talk about the up and comers like that, and says the one guy is Drew McIntyre who was signed personally by Vince McMahon. Shawn then says the other guy is…well he really doesn't know who he is. Finally it comes to him and he whispers something to HHH who does a spit take and asks if he's really bopping Vickie Guerrero. HHH says he always said if you're going to sleep your way to the top at least do it with someone who weighs less than you. Shawn says he'd know for sure. HHH says its quite the team, but it pails in comparison to the team Shawn and he put together and introduces Team Raw. Shawn calls them an impressive mass of humanity. He goes down the lineup, but gets to Cody who takes the mic from Shawn to stop him from mocking him. HHH calls Team Raw millions of dollars of talent…and Cody Rhodes. Cody says he's not going to listen to them on Sunday, as they are captains in name only. If this was based on talent he'd be the captain and everyone knows it. He says he may not tag anyone in, and might just beat Smackdown by himself. Big Show takes exception to that, and says he doesn't care if they insult DX but he will respect him. He says if at any time he thinks he will let the team down he will take Cody out himself, and that goes for each and every one of them. Mark Henry asks if that's a threat, and Show asks "what if it is?" Henry says if it is they're going to have problems. Swagger interrupts and says they might be bigger, but he's more athletic than all of them. He says they need to do what they do best and stand and look intimidating while the all American wrestler does what he does best. Kofi chimes like a good babyface, and says this is what Smackdown wants and they need to focus on being a team. Trips stops by and questions where Kofi's accent went as he's supposed to be Jamaican. Triple H says he's got a little test for them tonight, and it's a 5 on 5 match. If any of them lose it will prove they are the week link, and the person who pins them will replace them, and that match is next.

10 Man Tag Team Match: The Big Show, Kofi Kingston, Jack Swagger, Cody Rhodes, & Mark Henry vs. Montel Vontavious Porter, Primo, Chavo Guerrero, Chris Masters, & Evan Bourne
Joined in progress out of the break with Chavo in control of Kofi. Kofi comes back with a backdrop on Chavo, and then leaps to the second rope with a series of right hands. Kofi ducks a clothesline and hits a clothesline of his own before being tagged in by Big Show and Mark Henry simulataneously. The two big men argue so Cody tags himself in, but gets pushed into the corner where Chavo makes a tag to MVP. MVP hits a throw on Cody, and then pulls Cody back into the corner tagging in Bourne. Bourne hits a crossbody off the second rope, but Cody rolls through for a two count. Cody goes for a vertical suplex, but Cody counters and tags in Primo. Primo ducks a clothesline, and then delivers a Side Russian Legsweep. Dropkick by Primo misses, and that allows Cody to connect with the Cross Rhodes. Swagger makes a blind tag and runs in to make the pin at 3:05. Everyone takes exception to that which leads to everyone getting dumped from the ring and Show spearing Henry.
Winners: The Big Show, Kofi Kingston, Jack Swagger, Cody Rhodes, & Mark Henry (Swagger pins Bourne-Cross Rhodes *1/2)

-Ted Dibiase talks to Josh Mathews, and says he didn't do anything last week that Orton didn't do. He says Orton didn't return any of his calls, but he has to understand. Orton interrupts and asks what it is he has to understand about being betrayed. Dibiase asks if he would have done the same thing if he were him, and Orton says if he were Dibiase he would listen to him. He says in a few minutes they are supposed to have a match, but they won't. Dibiase won't fight back, and if he does that he might not get thrown out of Legacy. If he decides to take another advantage however, and decides to fight back he'll regret it for the rest of his life.

Ted Dibiase vs. Randy Orton
Dibiase shows that he is conflicted by refusing to look at Orton, and Orton then boots him in the gut. Dibiase stands back up and stares him down again, but gets hit with a European upper cut. Again Dibiase stands up doing a great job with the facial expressions of anger building, but gets stomped down. Orton tells him not to even think about it, and once again stomps him. Orton asks him if he wants to hit him, and then again delivers a stomp. Dibiase is doing a fabulous job here, as he stands up and stares down Orton as the crowd just BEGS him to punch Orton. Orton pie faces him, and DARES Dibiase to touch him. Finally Dibiase has had enough and shoves Orton to the ground as Randy backs off to the corner. The look in Dibiase's eye is something that absolutely can't be taught. Just tremendous storytelling here. Finally Dibiase changes to a look of resignation, as Orton senses the change and becomes more confident. Orton pushes Ted's face up and delivers the RKO at 4:21. More of a angle than a match, but what an angle it was. This was absolutely terrific, as we continue to build towards a Dibiase face turn. Not much more you can say. The crowd was absolutely PLEADING with Ted to hit him.
Winner: Randy Orton (Pinfall-RKO N/R)

-Video tribute for the late Captain Lou Albano. Very nicely done.

-Sneak Peek at Snoop Dogg's new video.

-Back in Snoop's office as he is interrupted by Hornswoggle and Chavo. Chavo wants to be part of Team Raw, and says that all the guest hosts overlook him. Jillian then comes in and demands a rematch for the Diva's Title. Then Santino stops by dressed like CHARLIE FREAKING BROWN, and says they got off on the wrong foot last year and he dressed like Charlie Brown to make it up for him. Finally Snoop kicks them all out, and then says he needs to relax and asks for his lighter??? We then get a technical difficulties screen featuring Michael Cole with his arm around Hornswoggle. Seriously. When we come back the room is filled with smoke, and Snoop says nothing relaxes him like lighting up his own personal stash…of scented candles. [insert THAT'S NOT PG comments here]

John Cena vs. Triple H
Triple H uses his Game theme for this one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe during the first DX reunion in '06 they both used the DX theme for singles matches as well as tag matches. Not a big deal just an observation. Cena takes HHH over a few times with a headlock, and HHH counters out each time with a headscissor. Cena goes for a quick Attitude Adjustment, but HHH is able to quickly escape the damage. Cena takes HHH over again with the side headlock, and then delivers a shoulderblock off the ropes. Cena hits a hiptoss for a two count, and they stare each other down. Trips then grabs a headlock, but Cena reverses into an overhand wristlock. HHH counters with a knee to the midsection, and rams Cena face first into the top buckle. Cena comes firing out of the corner, and then whips HHH into the buckle. HHH explodes out of the corner with a clothesline for a two count, and then whips Cena violently into the corner. HHH again whips Cena into the buckle, and measures Cena for the pedigree. Cena counters out and whips HHH into the corner sending him over the top to the floor as we head to break. Back from commercial with HHH in control as he hits a sidewalk slam for a two count. HHH drops a knee and then drives Cena into the corner with a series of shoulderblocks. Cena fights back as they trade right hands in the middle of the ring. Cena gets the better of the exchange, and hits a shoulderblock off the ropes. A second attempted shoulderblock from Cena is dodged by HHH. Cena goes for the Attitude Adjustment again, but HHH again slides off the back and chops the leg. HHH charges at Cena, but gets a drop toehold attempt. Cena goes for the STF, but HHH gets to the ropes and then catches Cena with a boot. Cena comes right back with a fisherman's suplex, but HHH counters a running bulldog attempt sending Cena crashing to the canvas. HHH sets up for the Pedigree again, but Cena counters into the STF this time locking it in the center of the ring. HHH nearly gets to the ropes, but Cena pulls him back to the center. HHH is able to dive for the ropes to stop that, and then hits the Pedigree out of nowhere. HHH goes for the cover, but Cena is able to get his foot on the bottom rope as we head for break again. Back from commercial as Cena rolls back inside from the floor. HHH hits him with a straight right hand. Cena comes back with an Attitude Adjustment attempt, but HHH counters into a sharpshooter. Cena is able to get to the bottom rope to break the hold, and then comes back with a series of shoulderblocks. Protoplex connects by Cena, and that of course sets up a five knuckle shuffle which connects. Cena goes for the Attitude Adjustment again, but again HHH counters. HHH is back with a high knee, and a facebuster followed by a clothesline. Spinebuster by HHH connects, and that sets up a second Pedigree which connects but CENA IS OUT AT TWO! HHH goes for the Pedigree again, but Cena counters into an Attitude Adjustment which finally connects but HHH also is able to kick out! Unbelievable. Cena heads to the top rope for the legdrop, but HHH moves. Pedigree attempt is countered into an Attitude Adjustment. HHH counters that, and finally hits another Pedigree this time getting the win at 20:15. These guys get a lot of unwarranted ‘net hate for their ring work, and one of the constant criticisms is they need a great worker to carry them. Well they sure as hell didn't here. Flame away, but this is the best Raw match since Shawn and Cena back in January. Better than Night of Champions, and on par with the Wrestlemania match. HHH helps Cena to his feet, and delivers a handshake before leaving Cena to soak in the moment of his final night on Raw. This is pretty lame considering that we all know even if he goes to Smackdown he'll back on Raw occasionally, but Cena does a nice job of selling the moment nonetheless.
Winner: Triple H (Pinfall-Pedigree ****)

The Miz vs. Some Jobber
Snoop stops these festivities to say he wasn't happy about all that stuff Miz said about Marty Jannetty, so he replaced the jobber with Marty himself.

The Miz vs. Marty Jannetty
Miz pushes Marty into the corner, but Jannetty answers with a smack and then rolls up Miz for two. Miz comes back with a boot to the gut, and then whips Marty to the corner. Miz delivers a brutal clothesline, and then locks in a reverse chinlock. Marty elbows out of the chinlock, and then delivers a back suplex. Marty hits a back elbow, and a running clothesline. Backdrop connects by Marty, and he then heads to the second rope for a fist drop getting a two count. A sequence of counters appeared to be botched by the hopelessly out of shape Jannetty, and Miz just goes ahead and mercifully ends this with the Skull Crushing Finale at 2:39. Marty looks like he aged about 20 years since he was last in WWE. After the match Vince personally fired Jannetty. Okay I made that part up.
Winner: The Miz (Pinfall-Skull Crushing Finale DUD)

WWE Diva's Championship: Jillian Hall (w. Chavo Guerrero) vs. Melina ©
Did I miss something? Why is Chavo out there with Jillian? Anyway if Jillian wins here she not only wins the title, but replaces Melina on Team Raw. Chavo provides a distraction which allows Jillian to gain control hitting a Samoan Drop for two. Jillian whips Melina to the corner, and goes for a handspring. Melina catches her in a headscissor as Chavo again jumps on the apron for a distraction. Hornswoggle comes out from under the ring all gangsta'd up and tries to pull him off. Meanwhile back in the ring Melina hits the Primal Scream to retain at 0:59. Nothing match as it was just here to set up the aftermath. Chavo goes after Swoggle and begins to rip off his gangsta clothes, but Snoop is out to make the save. Swoggle gets behind Chavo allowing Snoop to push Chavo over in the schoolboy trip, and then he delivers a spear to Chavo. That leads to divas coming out and dancing with Snoop and Swoggle.
Winner: STILL WWE Diva's Champion-Melina (Pinfall-Primal Scream DUD)

-Really nicely done recap of the entire Orton-Cena feud stretching back to 2007 which is followed by Cole and Lawler in the ring running down the Bragging Rights card.

-Kyle Busch and Joey Logano host Monday Night Raw next week. Yeah I don't know either. I guess they drive or something.

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels
I really would have like to see this match get 20 minutes rather than the four or five it's going to get, but I can't complain after that great HHH-Cena match. Jericho grabs the mic before the match, and says he could know HBK out right now but he doesn't have to. He says he could send Team Raw a message, but he's not going to do it. Team Smackdown already has an insurmountable advantage with him as captain, and that guarantees them victory. He says he has assembled a team that has one MO, and that is to defeat, embarrass, and humiliate Team Raw. He says that starts right now with HBK. Cryme Tyme's music hits and they head out through the crowd. Shawn tries to bail, but Kane leads the rest of the troops through the crowd. They all hit the ring as Shawn watches from the aisle. Jericho says while his team argues like petulant little children his team is a well oiled machine. That brings out HHH and the rest of Team Raw who have seemingly made up as they walk out as a unit. The teams stare down in the ring, and HHH congratulates Chris for doing the impossible. He says with all the differences on team Raw there is one thing they all agree on and that's that they don't like Jericho. He says they don't like his team or their show. HHH says while they all walked onto this show they're going to throw them off it. EXCUSE ME! Vickie Guerrero interrupts the proceedings, and says she can see where this is going. She says as the official consultant for Team Smackdown she will not allow it. She says if Shawn and Hunter want a fight it will have to wait until this Sunday, and then says that Team Smackdown will be leaving the arena now. HHH tells Jericho that he heard her, and tells them to leave. He says the boss told them to leave, and says they wouldn't want to get in any trouble. He then says they're already in trouble, because they don't work for Vickie. Team Raw attacks and that leads to a big ole brawl as we head off the air.
No Match

-Outside of teasing me with Jericho-HBK (which is like sticking a cupcake in front of a fat kid) and then pulling a blatant bait and switch I have absolutely no complaints with the show this week. Everything was incredibly well. From the fantastic Dibiase-Orton segment, to the shockingly fantastic HHH-Cena match. Snoop's segments very entertaining, and just short enough to not interrupt the flow of the show. The final segment, while again unsatisfying if you were expecting a Jericho-Michaels classic, accomplished its goal of building the big tag for Sunday. Well done all around this week.


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awesome raw killed 0.94 super crapact

Posted By: Guest#7575 (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM

 
 
great raw 2nite, well done wwe, more shows like this in the future please!

Posted By: Guest#3925 (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:21 PM

 
 
Raw was descent, no big whoop, Cena and 3H had a great match maybe not 4 stars but good anyway, it's hard for one match to save a 2 hour show, can we please end the guest GM crap it really takes away from the show,i hate cena, but he will be really good for smackdown

Posted By: O (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:22 PM

 
 
Four stars for the HHH-Cena match? It was soooo boring.

Posted By: Whaaa? (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:24 PM

 
 
Well, I'll be damned. Raw was pretty entertaining tonight.

Posted By: Guest#3056 (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:25 PM

 
 
dunno, looked like (a) orton is the leader of some weird homoerotic cult, and (b) teddy wasn't conflicted, he just needed to take a crap.

Posted By: someguy (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM

 
 
i have a feeling the ratings r gonna shoot up. maybe between 3.6-3.8

Posted By: perry (the blacko rican) (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM

 
 
You know its going to be a great main event on raw, when the match starts at 11:0T
Next months hosts:
NELSON MANDELA
ANN B. DAVIS
GORDON SOLIE
PAM DAWBER


Posted By: Peahole (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:37 PM

 
 
I'm probably not going to be the first to post this, but Orton-Dibiase reminds me of JBL-HBK this year. Too soon to recycle a storyline? Looks like Cena will win, Orton will go into a program with Dibiase for the rest of the year -- I'm expecting a program with Edge with Edge being the likely winner of the Rumble, and sinceEdge and Orton haven't fought in some time.

And hey, anyone remember when Steph said we'd never see Jericho vs. HBK again last year?


Posted By: b2 (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:39 PM

 
 
Im not sure how a show with 3 duds and a slightly overrated cena vs HHH match could be considered awesome

Posted By: random (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:42 PM

 
 
HHH-Cena < Angle-AJ

Other than that... utter crap.


Posted By: Guest#1468 (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:44 PM

 
 
Great show tonight. If Raw would give us one match that gets a little bit of time every week, I would be so happy.

Fuck the haters, HHH and Cena tore the house down tonight.

"Yowza!"


Posted By: W. Axl Rose (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:46 PM

 
 
I think Chavo must have been the one who took Stephanie McMahon's virginity, not Randy Savage. Did even HHH has to suffer this much after the curtain call? FUCK!

Posted By: Beefcake New York (Guest)  on October 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM

 
 
"Four stars for the HHH-Cena match? It was soooo boring."

oh stfu, ur just looking for something to complain about. it was a damn good match


Posted By: Guest#5212 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:00 AM

 
 
Matches? There were matches? Best part of the show DX calling out Kofi's lack of jamaican accent....even i was confused for a sec.

that and any time they put Eve and the Bella Twins on at the same time. DIIZZZAAAYUM!


Posted By: MadLiberator (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:04 AM

 
 
Sounds like the booking around the world title is spot on. Cena-Orton is very hard to call. Cena could lose, join team Smackdown and get his heat back by pinning HHH. Or Cena could win the title and HHH is now default number 1 contender because of this win. I'd quite like to see a triple threat WWE title match: Cena v HHH v HBK before the end of the year.

Posted By: Guest#4907 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:10 AM

 
 
gotta love dx with their insider terms and burials of the upcoming talent.this crap makes me hate the both of them more so triple h yet u have ppl critize tna about their product when the wwes flagship show (so called) is really the triple h show.

Posted By: Guest#5811 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:11 AM

 
 
Wow RAW, way to book 10 guys in a 3 minute match. If I didn't know better I would suspect you hate wrestling.

Posted By: Dutch Duder (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:13 AM

 
 
was cole actually dancing? he's an idiot.

Posted By: jeff (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:15 AM

 
 
awesome raw killed 0.94 super crapact

Posted By: Guest#7575 (Guest) on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM

My new nominee for idiot of the year.


Posted By: Darren Runne (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

 
 
If HHH/Cena was **** then AJ/Angle was *******

Posted By: reality check (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

 
 
Cena-HHH was a great match, but they really should have saved that rubber match for a PPV.

Posted By: Guest#3225 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM

 
 
awesome raw killed 0.94 super crapact

Posted By: Guest#7575 (Guest) on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Yeah.. and NASCAR is a real sport.


Posted By: Guest#4427 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:21 AM

 
 
awesome raw killed 0.94 super crapact

Posted By: Guest#7575 (Guest) on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I don't think it killed anything but it was a solid build to WWE's 100th ppv in 10 days.

I mean they expect people to buy a PPV every two minutes. I would like to but I spent my money on TNA and I was satisfied with my 39.99's worth last night.

Sadly enough the WWE PPV is near me but I cna't afford the $300 tickets. (I know that's an overestimate but close enough).

I mean WWE should destroy TNA every week. The have 3 rosters the size of TNA yet sometimes they bearly eek out a better product. That's sad.


Posted By: Dan (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:22 AM

 
 
I'm sure I'll get a lot of the Cena fans (since it's in style for the net to like him now) calling me a typical Cena hater but whatever. Hunter/Cena was the exact same thing the WWE gives us whenever they want to try to put Cena over as a good worker. The entire match was basically Hunter and Cena hitting signature moves leading up to them hitting finishing moves and kicking out of one another's stuff.

That sort of match stopped being interesting once Austin and Rock did it a few times. By now it's old hat and just not that intriguing. The match wasn't actively bad but it was far from great and definitely far from four snowflakes. It was decent but very cookie cutter. To say that was a great match is to have an incredibly forgiving and short term memory.


Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:24 AM

 
 
Am I the only one that noticed, but the Dibiasi / Orton angle is pretty much the Dibiasi / Virgil angle from 15 years ago with Dibiasi playing Virgil...

Posted By: Ray Church (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:24 AM

 
 
awesome raw killed 0.94 super crapact

Posted By: Guest#7575 (Guest) on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM

My new nominee for idiot of the year.

Posted By: Darren Runne (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Agreed.


Posted By: Sean (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:25 AM

 
 
So let me get this straight. I have to watch my wrestlemania 25 dvd all edited up b4 the divas battle royal so I cant even see the enterances. But... to sell WM 26 tickets during Raw they can show nothing but Kid Rock highlights and the divas enterances? What a crock!

Posted By: KnotSlip (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:25 AM

 
 
If HHH/Cena was **** then AJ/Angle was *******

Posted By: reality check (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Can a match get that many bonus stars if only 20 people saw it?


Posted By: Snabbit (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:26 AM

 
 
"Four stars for the HHH-Cena match? It was soooo boring."

oh stfu, ur just looking for something to complain about. it was a damn good match

Posted By: Guest#5212 (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Maybe if you're WWE fan.

If you're a WRESTLING fan, not so much.


Posted By: Guest#8526 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:27 AM

 
 
"Wow RAW, way to book 10 guys in a 3 minute match. If I didn't know better I would suspect you hate wrestling"

That would be an excellent comment if we didn't see a one-on-one match that got over twenty minutes.

Troll harder next time.


Posted By: Homie (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:28 AM

 
 
First off Jannetty was Awesome and in the infamous words of Todd Grisham if you are a TNA fan why are you hear voice your opionion on their page if they even have one. TNA sucks so much dick it isnt even funny Angle is irrelevant wrestling in front of 115 if he's lucky people each week.

Posted By: Radtke (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:28 AM

 
 
Go ahead Raw haters, let's here you.
I totally prefer Smackdown, but Cena and HHH brought it tonight! Love them or hate them, they are 2 of the best in the world. They would crush pretty much anyone (including Angle and AJ)

Orton v Dibiase was well done. Totally sold the Dibiase turn...love the slow build.

Jannetty was much better the last time we saw him, dude got old.

Why does Snoop need an unbrella? Do protect him from the DRIZZLE! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA and Santino as Charlie Brown had me laughing big time.

Santino is the old Angle character from when he was Austin lackey with the lil cowboy hat.

Vickie could be a great manager, they just don't have them anymore (RIP CAPT Lou) just hearing her say EXCUSE ME, brings such heat. I love it!!!


Posted By: DCFlash (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:28 AM

 
 
Cena would crush AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, Beer Money, and any other TNA Superstar, face it. WWE Rules and TNA Blows!

Posted By: CENARULES (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:30 AM

 
 
"The crowd was absolutely PLEADING with Ted to hit him."

...missed the part where the crowd chanted for Randy did we?


Posted By: Guest#3397 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:33 AM

 
 
HHH would you like to beat anyone else...never lose clean to orton almost beat all 3 of legacy 3 times, beat cena, win every tag match...I mean does he ever lose clean cause by my count cena has lost clean to HHH and Orton in a month which is more than HHH has done clean in a year

Posted By: b (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:39 AM

 
 
"Cena-Orton is very hard to call. Cena could lose, join team Smackdown and get his heat back by pinning HHH."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!


Posted By: :'( (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:39 AM

 
 
I thought Jannetty pullrd off a good match for a guy who's been wrestling for a thousand years...

Posted By: Slick (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM

 
 
"More of a match than an angle, but what an angle it was. "

Um ... Mcnew?


Posted By: Official Manhugger (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:52 AM

 
 
Love the part when snoop was about to light it up. I was lighthing it up too. Great host and you can tell he is a true wrestling fan 4:20

Posted By: RVD (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:54 AM

 
 
Just because Cena/HHH went 20 minutes and had a clean finish doesn't make it a good match. It was the same bland match they've always had, that turned into another "who's going to hit their finisher enough times to win"-fest at the end.

I actually don't have a problem with the match at all.. but more with the problem that they were calling it a classic simply because it went 20 minutes, when really they should be having those matches every week.


Posted By: drizzle (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM

 
 
It's funny people are on Angle nuts when he is doing greantess with Morgan but nobody is noticing how great HHH is in the ring the same...

Cena vs HunThor had this unique super match aura you don't get that much nowadays.

They pulled all the stops out and they delivered a candidate for MOTY on free TV (which is damn rare for RAW).

Props to the WWE for putting over the RKO/Dibiase Jr feud the PROPER WAY....

Dibiase looked like Orton's bitch and was at his total MERCY the whole thing.

Orton played the heel so perfectly the crowd erupted into a "Teddy Teddy Teddy" chant !

Finally a slow face turn that is done the PERFECT WAY.....

So eat this TNA Fan boys, the WWE is and will remain THE Number ONE SHOW in the pro wrestling world and there's nothing you could do about it !


Posted By: Guest#8647 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:08 AM

 
 
Snoop was by far one of the best hosts in terms of engaging the live audience, being familiar with the product, and just plain being smooth.

But by far the best part of the evening was the "RAW HD TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES" still while Snoop was lighting up ... with Michael Cole snuggling Hornswoggle in an extremely awkward pose.


Posted By: Pimps don't commit suicide (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:08 AM

 
 
4 stars for HH and Cena? Seriously? That match hsowed the huge edge TNA has rightnow. AJ Angle went 20 minutes ZERO commercial interuption and was probably 15 minutes of good action. HHH/Cena had 3 commercial interuptions and maybe 8-9 minutes of good action. And the action was basically them doing their 'signature moves' over and over again (the WWE definition of a good match) and predictabley ended with the third pedigree.

Snoop was passable but again a guying selling osmethng and using his reality TV schtick with the whole 30 second technical dificulty screen while we are supposed to fill in the blanks that he is lighting up.

And Chavo getting punked by yet another Raw host, yeah that never gets old.

Raw is sinkinglower and lower, but then again they are still geting high ratings. But it is like any other generic crap, akin to American Idol, millions upon millions of peopel watch that show and spend money to vote for the people on it, yet other than kerry Underwood who is hot none of them have been able to sell any records whatsoever in reality. Other than Kelly Clarkson I suppose but mostly because she happened to be the first so it was sort of a good gimmick back then.

So ratings and viewers definately doesn't mean it is a better product because right now it clearly isn't.


Posted By: Rich (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:09 AM

 
 
"The crowd was absolutely PLEADING with Ted to hit him."

...missed the part where the crowd chanted for Randy did we?

Posted By: Guest#3397 (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:33 AM

They were chanting "Teddy, Teddy"


Posted By: Gaurilla Unit (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:15 AM

 
 
I'm sure I'll get a lot of the Cena fans (since it's in style for the net to like him now) calling me a typical Cena hater but whatever. Hunter/Cena was the exact same thing the WWE gives us whenever they want to try to put Cena over as a good worker. The entire match was basically Hunter and Cena hitting signature moves leading up to them hitting finishing moves and kicking out of one another's stuff.

That sort of match stopped being interesting once Austin and Rock did it a few times. By now it's old hat and just not that intriguing. The match wasn't actively bad but it was far from great and definitely far from four snowflakes. It was decent but very cookie cutter. To say that was a great match is to have an incredibly forgiving and short term memory.

Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:24 AM

I agree. The only time a match on Raw gets more than 5 minutes is when Cena is in it and they're trying to make him look good. It's beyond ridiculous.


Posted By: EddieGibson (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:18 AM

 
 
as much as i like to support Marty Jannetty, I wish Miz had wrestled his original opponent

it was TJ Perkins, the former Puma

woulda been an awesome match


Posted By: shaun_callen (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:24 AM

 
 
If HHH/Cena was **** then AJ/Angle was *******

Posted By: reality check (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Can a match get that many bonus stars if only 20 people saw it?

Posted By: Snabbit (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:26 AM
I think a few more people watched Raw tonight.


Posted By: Guest#7664 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:28 AM

 
 
comparing HHH-Cena to Styles-Angle is akin to comparing The '09 Mets to the 1986 Mets don't even try or people will keel over laughing. Oh yeah HHH was awesome burying all the young talent what a swell guy.

Posted By: groot (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:32 AM

 
 
the jobber Miz was supposed to face was TJ Perkins!!! Too bad.

Posted By: RAW was DECENT! (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:32 AM

 
 
Cena and HHH better than Angle and AJ Styles!? LMFAO! :'(

You've got to give to the WWE marks, they're funny. Stupid, but funny.


Posted By: Guest#1478 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:34 AM

 
 
I'm sure I'll get a lot of the Cena fans (since it's in style for the net to like him now) calling me a typical Cena hater but whatever. Hunter/Cena was the exact same thing the WWE gives us whenever they want to try to put Cena over as a good worker. The entire match was basically Hunter and Cena hitting signature moves leading up to them hitting finishing moves and kicking out of one another's stuff.

That sort of match stopped being interesting once Austin and Rock did it a few times. By now it's old hat and just not that intriguing. The match wasn't actively bad but it was far from great and definitely far from four snowflakes. It was decent but very cookie cutter. To say that was a great match is to have an incredibly forgiving and short term memory.

Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:24 AM

Yeah I so remember Cena & HHH hitting their opponents finisher in "their" matches.

The problem with your criticism is when you say it only applies to John Cena, it doesn't. It applies to just about anybody that's a main eventer these days. See most of Undertaker's matches these days for example.

It applies to Undertaker vs. Batista. And I'm gonna take a guess in thinking your in the minority in thinking Undertaker-HBK at WM 25 was overrated because you thought it was mostly them just hitting finishers for their 30 minute match in lieu of "psychology".


Posted By: mp (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:36 AM

 
 
"The crowd was absolutely PLEADING with Ted to hit him."

...missed the part where the crowd chanted for Randy did we?

Posted By: Guest#3397 (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:33 AM

I heard them chanting "Teddy."


Posted By: Hearing aid? (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:36 AM

 
 
Cena would crush AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, Beer Money, and any other TNA Superstar, face it. WWE Rules and TNA Blows!

Posted By: CENARULES (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Joe or Angle would drop HHH and/or Cena in seconds in real life.


Posted By: Guest#9197 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:38 AM

 
 
Has Triple H ever beaten Batista? I was thinking of all the main eventers he's beaten and i can't remember him beating batista

Posted By: guest71683 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:40 AM

 
 
Better Raw than usual. Still don't like HHH's promo where he buried almost everyone on The Smackdown team. HHH vs Cena was better than expected(though not on the level of Angle-Styles)Not real sure what a couple people made a big deal about Jannetty. The match was no Angle-Jannetty and imo was quite crappy and only a handful of people started a short lived Marty chant. Dibiase vs Orton was booked fairly well.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:48 AM

 
 
The Orton-DiBiase stuff was quite excellent. Both guys hit the exact right pitch in their characters' motivations, and the timing was spot on. Cole and King did a great job of staying low, as if they were riveted as well. Orton and DiBiase made it easy to get invested in it, and when Ted just stood there and took the RKO, it was heartbreaking. Just great, great stuff.

Posted By: Billy Jerk Haynes (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:54 AM

 
 
My new nominee for idiot of the year.

Posted By: Darren Runne (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Well you got my vote, bro


Posted By: Guest#2877 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:56 AM

 
 
The problem with your criticism is when you say it only applies to John Cena, it doesn't. It applies to just about anybody that's a main eventer these days. See most of Undertaker's matches these days for example.

It applies to Undertaker vs. Batista. And I'm gonna take a guess in thinking your in the minority in thinking Undertaker-HBK at WM 25 was overrated because you thought it was mostly them just hitting finishers for their 30 minute match in lieu of "psychology".

Posted By: mp (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 01:36 AM

Nah, there was nothing wrong with my criticism. I only mentioned Cena because he was the guy wrestling tonight. I agree that quite a few of the main eventers do the same thing. I wouldn't have such a problem with the basic match concept being old news if only Rock/Austin and Cena/quite a few guys had done it. I just didn't give a run down of everyone.

'Taker/Batista at 'Mania was pretty good. It was definitely the match of the night. Although their follow up matches were in lesser quality. That's when they started to fall into the "we've done this match up so many times that the only way to make it fresh is to go to the both guys keep hitting their big moves" well.

---

Just because Cena/HHH went 20 minutes and had a clean finish doesn't make it a good match. It was the same bland match they've always had, that turned into another "who's going to hit their finisher enough times to win"-fest at the end.

I actually don't have a problem with the match at all.. but more with the problem that they were calling it a classic simply because it went 20 minutes, when really they should be having those matches every week.

Posted By: drizzle (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Bingo. That's a great way of putting it. There's definitely a trend of fans overrated any one on one free TV match between big names that lasts 15-20 minutes.


Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 02:07 AM

 
 
Randy Orton vs Ted DiBiase for the Million Dollar Belt at Wrestlemania 26?

Tell me that doesn't sound rather good.

And I didn't see the HHH/Cena match, but it had John Cena and Triple H in it, so it must have been awful.


Posted By: Shameless Cena Hater (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:09 AM

 
 
All the Cena/Orton video package did was...

A. ...highlight the fact that NOTHING has happened in their feud this year. They just happen to have fought a few times. Moreover, nothing very interesting happened in 2007 or 2008, either, as they showed. Cena's dad getting punted was the first and last juicy thing to happen between these two guys.

B. ...creep me out when the lyrics mention sharing a kiss. Check it out--it's early on in the video, and it's hilariously out of place.


Posted By: Sam! (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:28 AM

 
 
The problem with your criticism is when you say it only applies to John Cena, it doesn't. It applies to just about anybody that's a main eventer these days. See most of Undertaker's matches these days for example.

It applies to Undertaker vs. Batista. And I'm gonna take a guess in thinking your in the minority in thinking Undertaker-HBK at WM 25 was overrated because you thought it was mostly them just hitting finishers for their 30 minute match in lieu of "psychology".

Posted By: mp (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 01:36 AM

Nah, there was nothing wrong with my criticism. I only mentioned Cena because he was the guy wrestling tonight. I agree that quite a few of the main eventers do the same thing. I wouldn't have such a problem with the basic match concept being old news if only Rock/Austin and Cena/quite a few guys had done it. I just didn't give a run down of everyone.

'Taker/Batista at 'Mania was pretty good. It was definitely the match of the night. Although their follow up matches were in lesser quality. That's when they started to fall into the "we've done this match up so many times that the only way to make it fresh is to go to the both guys keep hitting their big moves" well.

---

Just because Cena/HHH went 20 minutes and had a clean finish doesn't make it a good match. It was the same bland match they've always had, that turned into another "who's going to hit their finisher enough times to win"-fest at the end.

I actually don't have a problem with the match at all.. but more with the problem that they were calling it a classic simply because it went 20 minutes, when really they should be having those matches every week.

Posted By: drizzle (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Bingo. That's a great way of putting it. There's definitely a trend of fans overrated any one on one free TV match between big names that lasts 15-20 minutes.

Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 02:07 AM

That's one of my biggest complaints about RAW. They've conditioned us into thinking of 3 1/2 minutes as a standard match time (like in the ten man match, what a joke that was). As a result, when a match goes past the 5 minute mark it feels relatively epic. This is just ridiculous given how much time is spent on the introductory promo, replays, and Hornswoggle. In my opinion a match needs at least 10 minutes to qualify as good. Anything less is just a reminder that you need to pay to see real matches (though even much of the ppvs have been letdowns by this standard lately). So I felt like the Cena/Triple H match was pretty good, but the standards that are left to measure such a match by are so low that it was most likely just acceptable wrestling.


Posted By: Hawk's Eye (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:29 AM

 
 
Raw was off the hizzle fa shizzle. Cena and HHH lit a match, threw it on a casket, poured gasoline on top and burned Raw down to the ground with a classic encounter

Posted By: Dwatbe (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:38 AM

 
 
"Wow RAW, way to book 10 guys in a 3 minute match. If I didn't know better I would suspect you hate wrestling"

That would be an excellent comment if we didn't see a one-on-one match that got over twenty minutes.

Troll harder next time.

Posted By: Homie (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:28 AM

So given a two+ hour wrestling program your going to stand up for the fact that they had a twenty minute singles match, which made up 85% of the in ring action for the night. How is it possible that a match between 10 men only lasts 1/5 of the time that a match between two men lasts? Hell, it only lasted 1/5 of the time that it took for all of the men to talk about having a match. To me it made everyone involved appear completely insignificant to the company.

I know some people are probably burdened by having to watch wrestling while they're waiting for the next Snoopy Dog skit, but I actually watch wrestling to see wrestling. When they advertise Jericho vs. Michaels that's what I continue watching to see. It's as though WWE knew what a crap product they were giving us tonight and the Cena/Triple H match was supposed to appease the actual wrestling fans. Well screw that. I was far more interested in the 10 man tag, but that was just a promotional joke, just like Michaels/Jericho. Why am I supposed to care about the 14 man match, when WWE showed us right here they can't be bothered with booking a decent multi-man match?

The Cena/Triple H match wasn't a **** encounter. It was a bone. It was like giving a small child a gameboy during a long car ride. That match was just WWE trying to trick actual wrestling fans into believing they still cared about putting on matches. Apparently it worked on Homie. It was actually just Cena and Triple H doing a finishing sequence for twenty minutes in order to sway the opions of a couple of us IWC nerds. While I will admit it was decent, it wasn't enough to make me okay with the fact that it was the only real wrestling on the entire show tonight. It was just the same guys getting the same amount of time on a show that didn't even have a main event.

And p.s. Troll Harder would be an awesome movie title.


Posted By: Dutch Dudeson (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:57 AM

 
 
Dibiase > Orton

Posted By: Guest#2892 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:57 AM

 
 
HHH beats John Cena. Hmmm..

Maybe Cena is leaving and HHH had to beat him on his way out.

Btw HHH if you go from banging a tranny to banging a genuinely beautiful woman who just so happens to be the boss' daughter,then people are going to get suspicious.


Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 07:09 AM

 
 
Another show that proves us wrestling fans don't really mind the whole guest host concept until someone with no evident interest in wrestling comes in and makes us all feel like the nerds we are.

Great show. DX were great, and the booking was top-notch all the way through. Loved the "you're overly caucasian" line from Lawler; funniest thing he's said in years.


Posted By: Chungles (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 08:25 AM

 
 
Raw was fun tonight but still way to much HHH. HHH/Cena was a great match which telegraphs that Cena is winning at the PPV. (no way would he lose on his last Raw).

Dibiase angle was great too though the dude looks constipated when acting frustrated and angry. For good reason he isn't on the PPV in a match because I think we will see him cost Randy the title somehow.

Miffed about no Jericho/HBK but expected the bait and switch.

I think Jerishow v DX could be fun at Sur Series, after all this Bragging Rights match is pretty much an angle advancer for this.


Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 08:32 AM

 
 
DX calling out Kofi on not having an accent pretty much made the show for me.

Posted By: Guest#5342 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 09:20 AM

 
 
"HHH would you like to beat anyone else...never lose clean to orton almost beat all 3 of legacy 3 times, beat cena, win every tag match...I mean does he ever lose clean cause by my count cena has lost clean to HHH and Orton in a month which is more than HHH has done clean in a year

Posted By: b (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:39 AM"

I honestly can't remember the last time HHH was pinned cleanly in a one on one match (or any match). With DX, HBK has been beaten and submitted. In last few three man matches he has been in, he wasn't even in the ring when someone got pinned. It's really pathetic. The thing that bothers me is if Vince pushes people who sell merchandise, why does HHH always go over Cena and last year went over Jeff Hardy. Not counting DX merchandise (because HBK is in that team too), those two guys sell a lot more stuff than HHH. It's good to be family I guess.


Posted By: mogamer (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 09:28 AM

 
 
Sorry but first match was a dud. Cena vs. Triple H was alright it wasn't as bad and some here are saying and it wasn't nearly as good as the above article made it out to be but it was solid. The Divas match was DUD. The TNA brawl at the end wasn't bad but how anyone can say this was a good raw is beyond me. It was okay but nothing special.

Posted By: TBP (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 09:30 AM

 
 
TNA Shithead Fans if you hate RAW dont watch it. Your support doesnt mattter to your shitty league, so it really doesnt effect RAW. I hate shitty television with convulted storylines and wrestlers I have never heard of,(Brutus Magnus) Dont Care about (Suicide, Eric Young) or remember from 10 to 20 years ago when they were mobile (Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner). Besides the MCMG there isnt anyone I care about so I dont watch TNA and I sure dont go bitching on their reports cause I HATE THEIR SHITTY PRODUCT. For the 800 people that showed up to their WrestleMania BFG thats a joke, I m sorry you cant differentiate a National Promotional Powerhouse WWE to an Indy Promotion with some past name talent and a tv deal that only exists cause WWE bailed on Spike like TNA.

Posted By: Hey (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 09:31 AM

 
 
"The crowd was absolutely PLEADING with Ted to hit him."

...missed the part where the crowd chanted for Randy did we?

Posted By: Guest#3397 (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:33 AM

They were chanting "Teddy". Did you hear the pop when Ted finally shoved Orton? I haven't heard a pop like that in a long time.

On a side note, man did Marty Janetty look old last night. He barely made it to the ring.


Posted By: Dave 3:16 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 09:37 AM

 
 
"A sequence of counters appeared to be botched by the hopelessly out of shape Jannetty,"

He probably didn't get the call until Thursday that they wanted him for a, dare I say it, one shot deal. Had he the proper notice he might have went on Jenny Craig for a month or so.


Posted By: demOcratic (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM

 
 
the opening segment was great i thought...Katie Vick ref, Guerrero/McMahon sleeping the way to the top ref, HHH with a Kool-Aid on Mark Henry, Michaels putting over Swagger, calling out Kofi on his accent. top notch!

Posted By: nomar34 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM

 
 
Who the hell is calling Cena V HHH a classic?

Most people are just saying it was a damn good match, which it was, with this, AJ v Angle last week, Rey v Morrison last month etc, we should be thankful we're getting matches of this quality on free TV, yet some people still find the need to complain, it's ridiculous.


Posted By: Guest#5491 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

 
 
-Kyle Busch and Joey Logano host Monday Night Raw next week. Yeah I don't know either. I guess they drive or something.


hopin thats sarcasm mr mcnew, otherwise, you fail...


Posted By: Guest#7875 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM

 
 
If there was no Angle vs AJ or Angle vs Morgan, then HHH vs Cena isn't given a 4* match. C'mon, get real with that shit. It was a ***1/2 TOPS and in NO way was this anyway better than AJ vs Angle from last week..

Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM

 
 
And p.s. Troll Harder would be an awesome movie title.

Posted By: Dutch Dudeson (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 03:57 AM

Or name for a midget porn star.


Posted By: Thumpin' dat azzzzzz (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM

 
 
comparing HHH-Cena to Styles-Angle is akin to comparing The '09 Mets to the 1986 Mets don't even try or people will keel over laughing. Oh yeah HHH was awesome burying all the young talent what a swell guy.

Posted By: groot (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 01:32 AM

Hmmm yeah HHH hasn't lost to Cena, Orton, Batista, Benjamin, Dibiase, Rhodes, J.Hardy elevating all of them. Who has Angle jobbed to?? AJ and Jay Lethal? He burys everyone else as well.


Posted By: KingofKings (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:39 AM

 
 
WTF? When are they going to have Trips stop burying the talent? Like when he was going on about Drew McIntyre and Escobar (I haven't seen him yet, but just roll with me here) saying stupid racist shit like 'I know him, he parked my car.'

It's no wonder the E is having a tough time with new talent when you had Hunter with his big nose (who knows) talking these cats down. I should have watched the HHH?Cena match, and I too was pissed about the teasing of Jericho/HBK.

Oh well--what can you do?


Posted By: CC Fanboy (Registered)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM

 
 
HHH would you like to beat anyone else...never lose clean to orton almost beat all 3 of legacy 3 times, beat cena, win every tag match...I mean does he ever lose clean cause by my count cena has lost clean to HHH and Orton in a month which is more than HHH has done clean in a year

Posted By: b (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Dude, marry the boss' daughter and be a totally over with the crowd. Then U can beat who ever u want. Dude can wrestle and entertain, not many stars nowadays can do both.


Posted By: Guest#9997 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM

 
 
This is pretty lame considering that we all know even if he goes to Smackdown he'll back on Raw occasionally, but Cena does a nice job of selling the moment nonetheless.

Too bad Cena can't sell a finisher... he ate 3, count them, 3 Pedigrees and just gets up afterward like, whatever. The common wrestler is out for 5 minutes with 1. But not Super Cena, not the man who eats Orton punts for breakfast. He needs character reinvention, and he needs it now, on Smackdown.


Posted By: MPMoore (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM

 
 
I do hope for more of the Technical Difficulties screen next week.

Posted By: Technical Difficulties Fan (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:26 PM

 
 
So they fire Kendrick for smokin' the herb and then make a weed joke? Hypocrites.

Outside of the usual stupid bs, a suprisingly good and strong RAW. I like how they;re building towards Orton vs. Dibiase, and Cena-HHH was actually a great match. Figures HHH would have to be the one to cleanly pin Cena before he may leave the show. Definetly wasn't 4 stars though.

But yeah them cheating us out of HBK-Jericho was lam and stupid, just to fill it with an angle/brawl.

Is anyone else getting tired of DX's endless INSIDER comments?


Posted By: Crank (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:38 PM

 
 
Tonight was the first time I've ever seen Ted Jr. look like a star-in-the-making. Cody is full of awesome, and Ted is starting to show some potential, too. That Orton-Dibiase "match" was done about as well as it possibly could.

Posted By: MDK (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 01:42 PM

 
 
OK, I watched Cena-Hunter. Good match, but nothing special. In the past 7 days I'd rank it below the following:

AJ-Angle
Mesias-Wagner
Sugi-Rocky-Evans-Teddy Hart-Extreme Tiger
KENTA-Chris hero

I who cares how many people saw a particular match. Just because a lot more people saw Cnea-Hunter than saw any of the above doesn't mean it's better. A ridiculous amount of more people watch 'American Idol' than did 'The Wire', but that doesn't mean 'American Idol' is even in the same realm of television.


Posted By: DocSarpolis (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:16 PM

 
 
Fuck the Blind Marks...HHH/Cena STUNK THE JOINT OUT last night. No story, No emotion, just Cena hitting his pre-planned moves in the same spots he always does with no flow, rhyme or reason imaginable, and Hunter doing one of the clearest jobs of 'just getting through it' I've seen in wrestling.

Posted By: psych (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 03:37 PM

 
 
awesome raw killed 0.94 super crapact

Posted By: Guest#7575 (Guest) on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 PM

My new nominee for idiot of the year.

Posted By: Darren Runne (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 12:18 AM

It DOESN'T matter who you nominate!


Posted By: And that's the bottom line (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 05:47 PM

 
 
Regarding the start time of the ME, it started just before halftime of the MNF game. Smart play, WWE.

Posted By: HBK's Smile (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 06:14 PM

 
 
"Hmmm yeah HHH hasn't lost to Cena, Orton, Batista, Benjamin, Dibiase, Rhodes, J.Hardy elevating all of them. Who has Angle jobbed to?? AJ and Jay Lethal? He burys everyone else as well"

Did HHH lose to Rhodes and Di Biase, no, HBK did, could HHH have lost for a change, or not got the pin over them? of course. Losing to Jeff via a roll up is not putting him over, same applies to his matches against Shelton.

HHH has beaten Cena a lot more than he has lost to him, and I don't think Randy has ever beaten him clean, whereas he has always lost clean to the Pedigree.

Last person to beat HHH clean in a 1 on 1 match with a finisher with no interference or weapons?
Can anyone name the time/place?
Really, can you?

It was Umaga, about 4 years ago.

HHH has not lost clean to a finisher for almost 4 years, and people say he puts people over.

Yeah Right


Posted By: Dave (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 06:20 PM

 
 
i for one was disappointed by the show...i honestly fell asleep during the hhh-cena match and felt the rest of the show was pretty flat..although i did enjoy the smackdown-raw interaction, and even though people here complain about burying smackdown, isn't that what raw is supposed to be doing in storyline...??? -.-

Posted By: Guest#1682 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 07:38 PM

 
 
i guess im the only one, but I love the insider jokes that DX are saying.Katie Vick, the shockmaster, funny stuff. Haven't watched Raw in a while. BfG was great. Angle is still the man

Posted By: mattrko (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 08:07 PM

 
 
HHH has not lost clean to a finisher for almost 4 years, and people say he puts people over.

Yeah Right

Posted By: Dave (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 06:20 PM

Orton at Backlash?

Come on, top babyfaces hardly ever lose clean, Cena being the exception, who does it a lot, when HHH is a heel, he loses clean all the time.


Posted By: Guest#9573 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 08:47 PM

 
 
I liked both but no HHH-Cena was not IMO better then Angle-Styles.

Posted By: Guest#4560 (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 09:30 PM

 
 
Who the hell is calling Cena V HHH a classic?

Most people are just saying it was a damn good match, which it was, with this, AJ v Angle last week, Rey v Morrison last month etc, we should be thankful we're getting matches of this quality on free TV, yet some people still find the need to complain, it's ridiculous.

Posted By: Guest#5491 (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Michael Cole called the match a classic immediately after it was over. And some of us would take issue with your statement that it was even "damn good."

It seems like many of us were pointing out that simply having one 20+ minute match between top stars on free TV does NOT automatically = great match.

Personally, I thought it was a decent **1/2 bout, but I'd like to see more matches like that (and better) on TV more often!


Posted By: "drizzle" (Guest)  on October 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM

 
 
"You've got to give to the WWE marks, they're funny. Stupid, but funny."

*****************************

Yeah... because a drugged-up, psychotic WWEject and hillbilly spot-monkey brings TEH AW-ZUMM!!!


Posted By: David O (Guest)  on October 21, 2009 at 01:58 AM

 
 
"
HHH has not lost clean to a finisher for almost 4 years, and people say he puts people over.

Yeah Right

Posted By: Dave (Guest) on October 20, 2009 at 06:20 PM

Orton at Backlash?

Come on, top babyfaces hardly ever lose clean, Cena being the exception, who does it a lot, when HHH is a heel, he loses clean all the time"

Not true my friend, and the Backlash match was a 6 man tag with a ton of shenanigans


Posted By: Guest#4378 (Guest)  on October 21, 2009 at 02:59 AM

 
 
wwe rules tna sux

Posted By: madara (Guest)  on October 21, 2009 at 05:41 AM

 


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