411's TNA Impact Report 10.22.09
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 10.22.2009
An impressive debut for an RoH standout, two very good matches and some interesting seeds sown in the "new era" of Impact!
Hey yo. You know who I am, you know what this is. Forgive me if I'm a bit off tonight, I'm having back spasms and I probably have a torn achilles. But I'm here, I'm fine, I'm jumping around.
Hmm, new style nameplates for the wrestlers. They really want this to feel new.
We open with Kurt Angle who is still announced as the leader of the Main Event Mafia. He immediately references the fact that he is solo, and mentions that tonight is the one-year anniversary of the formation of the MEM. He says MEM was misunderstood, it was never about securing spots. At least it wasn't for him. It was about respect, for the wrestlers and for the game. It wasn't about money o ego, it was about pride. Oooh, attempted face turn. He says that he thought TNA was full of kids looking for handouts, but he was wrong. The boys have grown into men. He saw Eric Young with a passion in his eyes to be better than Kurt. He then puts over AJ Styles HUGE before moving to Morgan. He tells the boys in the back that they have nothing to prove to him, and he is willing to fight their fight. Angle turns to leave but Rhino's music hits.
Rhino says he can't believe what Angle is saying. He thinks the MEM is done. Booker T is gone, and Kurt is fighting with nobody next to him. Rhino asks him to look at the guys that TNA management is behind, and what about them? What about Raven, errr Rhino? Kurt says they earned it. Rhino says they earned nothing. He fought beside them until he saw what was going on. Bobby Lashley was brought in and they cast Rhino aside. Team 3D are coming down the ramp as TNA's crack security squad tries to stop them. They yell at Rhino who is not sorry. He did what he had to do to get their attention. He says they were standing next to people who were brought in to replace them. He asks Bubba (yes, he said Bubba) what he's going to do after wrestling. Rhino is doing an AWESOME job here as a heel. He points out that 3D are not on the card tonight which should tell them something. He invites them to come out and watch his match with Hernandez, which incites 3D again. Kurt Angle stops Ray from attacking Rhino as the War Machine says that TNA management wants him out, and they will only do it by dragging his dead body out of the building. Strong stuff.
Lauren is with AJ and Daniels. AJ says he's still trying to digest what Kurt said, but if he's serious then it's a huge step for TNA. The fight has always been everyone against the competition, not MEM vs TNA. Lauren asks Daniels about the main event for the next PPV, and he says the second instalment would be even better.
Lauren is with Raisha Saaed. Saeed thinks it is crazy that Kong wants to be on her own. Saeed taught her everything. Kong is her puppet, and tonight she will destroy Kong. Ohhhhh I don't think so somehow.
As Taz and Tenay run down the card we see Homicide beating hell out of Amazing Red, leading to...
Amazing Red vs. Homicide
Homicide bounces Red off the apron and rolls him in, and we have a bell. Scoop slam by Homicide but he misses 3 elbow drops in a row as Red shows his quickness. Red lays in some kicks but Homicide catches him with a pumphandle suplex. Chops in the corner by Homicide followed by some EVIL HEEL~! Tactics. Homicide misses a charge in the corner but hits a stun gun. Cover with the feet on the ropes! The ref sees it and remonstrates with Homicide, allowingRed to come back with some kicks and a headscissors. Red ducks a clothesline, hits a kick to the gut and hits a Destroyer for 2.88. Homicide catches Red on the charge in, hits a STIFF sidewalk slam then nails a Gringo Killa for 3!
Winner: Homicide via pinfall (Gringo Killa) Rating: **¼
Back from commercial and Lauren is with Steiner. He is convinced the MEM is alive and kicking, and will stay that way as long as he's with TNA. Steiner says Angle lost his mind when he gave respect to the young guys and Angle does not speak for him., He's going to beat up the young punks, starting with Mike Morgan. Lauren points out it's Matt Morgan, so Steiner says he doesn't care. He'll beat them both up. He'll beat Matt up so bad, he won't remember his own name. You go, Scott.
Matt Morgan vs. Scott Steiner
Steiner pauses on the way to the ring to pose in front of Kristal and try to make her one of the freaks. She is having none of it.
Steiner takes control with forearms but runs into a Morgan back elbow. Off come the elbow pads and he hits the alternating elbows in the corner, followed by a charging knee...which Steiner somehow blocked. Scott goes to the legs to take Morgan down and gets a suplex. Clothesline by Steiner and the posing elbow/pushups spot. Morgan comes back with a short-arm clothesline out of nowhere, followed by an avalanche in the corner and a roaring lariat. Morgan hits the Boss Man Attack over the top rope and Morgan follows to the outside where Steiner regains control. Instead of going back to the ring Steiner takes the opportunity to molest Kristal. Surprisingly this brings out Lashley, and somehow the ref misses Lashley laying a beating on Steiner outside for a good minute and a half. Lashley throws him back in, Morgan hits the Carbon Footprint and it's academic.
Winner: Matt Morgan via pinfall (Carbon Footprint following Lashley-ference) Rating: *½
Lauren is with Kong, and she's going to talk. No more orders Raisha. Tonight it's finished.
AJ Styles and Daniels vs. Kevin Nash and Samoa Joe
We have a brawl to get us going, Joe attacking AJ and Nash taking Daniels to the floor. AJ hits the dropkick on Joe. He tags in Daniels who hits a leg lariat for a quick two. Tag back to AJ but Joe regains control with a back elbow and an inverted atomic into a boot and a senton. Tag to Nash who hits a big side slam for two. Tag back to Joe who gets a big kneelift. Joe counters a comeback with a clothesline. Tag back to Nash who hits the corner knees and other assorted corner shots. AJ fights back again but Nash gets another knee. AJ hits the springboard flying forearm and the tide is about to change. Daniels tags in and has shots for all! Leg lariat to Joe, forearm for Nash and a corner clothesline for Joe. He throws Joe into nash then hits a top rope clothesline to Nash, forcing him to DDT Joe. That gets 2. Nash stops him cold with a clothesline and Joe has gone for a chair. AJ WITH AN ASAI ONTO JOE! Daniels went for the tag but AJ is out cold on the floor. Daniels turns right into a Nash chokeslam for the win!
Winners: Kevin Nash and Samoa Joe via pinfall (Nash on Daniels, chokeslam) Rating: *¼
Nash isn't worried about the victory he says. He wants Eric Young and his belt.
JB is pimping TNA Mobile, but Young cuts him off and says if Nash wants him, he's not hard to find. He says he has a big announcement next week which will rock TNA to its foundation, then quotes Julius Caesar. Culture, on my TNA?
Lauren is with the Guns to discuss Ultimate X Tag Teams. Sabin says they are getting somewhere with the Ultimate X match. They pulled double duty at BFG, but they're going to win anyway. Shelley reaffirms this position.
Backstage the Beautiful People blitz the Lucha Ladies with food. Seriously, it's a food fight.
Awesome Kong vs. Raisha Saeed
Ahem...
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! At this time I am contractually obliged to remind you that Kong kills bitches dead. She starts off doing just that and then uses a Giant Swing. Saeed tries to fight back with a series of strikes and a dropkick to the knee. Kong goes to one knee but catches a big boot. She misses the backfist and Saeed lays in some more shots before Kong just levels her. Kong goes up top but Saeed is up and hits a series of kicks to Kong's head! She climbs up top with Kong and hits a Rocker Dropper from the top! 1...2...no! Stomps by Kong and now SHE is going to the second rope into KNEES! Implant Buster s countered, shots by Saeed but she runs into an Awesome....no! Saeed out the back for a sunset flip...oh dear. Kong sits, hits an Implant Buster and that's all she wrote.
Winner: Awesome Kong via bitch-killing Rating: **
Kong drags Saeed up the ramp...KONG BOMB OFF THE RAMP! Jeff Hardy would be proud pf that bump.
Back from commercial and we see Saeed being stretchered away.
Rhino vs. Hernandez
Team 3D are on commentary, or at least Ray is. Apparently Jesse Neal is doing great at the Academy. Hernandez has the early control and launches Rhino over the top, then hits the SICK tope to the outside. SERIOUS height on that. He rolls Rhino back in, which is a bad plan because Rhino catches Super Mex coming in with a stiff shot. Beatdown now by Rhino and a rear chinlock. Scoop slam by Rhino, he goes to the middle rope and misses whatever he was trying to do. Clotheslines by Hernandez, a whip and a corner splash. Sidewalk slam by Hernandez gets 2. Rhino reverses a whip and hits a shoulder in the corner. Hernandez catches Rhino coming in and pulls himself to the top rope...BIG SPLASH! 1...2...3!
Winner: Hernandez via pinfall (top rope splash)
Post-match Rhino tries to beat down Hernandez, but Super Mex sidesteps the Gore and gets a beatdown of his own going. He sets for the Border Toss but Team 3D stop him saying it's not worth it.
JB is with Angle who says that the young guys do it every night, and it works. He thinks Rhino has a lack of confidence, and that he's getting his title shot soon. NIGEL IS HERE! He walks in and politely introduces himself. "Hi, I'm Dolph Ziggler." Wait, wrong show. He says he is currently known as Desmond Wolf, but you can call him Wolf. He says he became a wrestler and came to TNA becasue of him. They shake hands, then Wolf kills him with Europeans.
They show Wolf's attack on Angle again and Taz mentions that he used to be Nigel McGuinness. 800 RoHbots just marked.
ULTIMATE X #1 Contender's Tag Team Match: The Motor City Machine Guns vs. Lethal Consequences
The Guns' new theme is growing on me. Then again, so does facial hair and I shave that. The bell rings and all four men start climbing, but it quickly breaks down. The Guns hit stereo corner clotheslines, then get a double sidewalk slam on Lethal before sidestepping a charging Creed and sending him to the floor. The Gunsmake ready to fly but put on the breaks when Lethal Consequences move. Sabin is on the apron and hits a NASTY running kick to the chest and face of Lethal on the floor. Sounded very painful indeed. Sabin has climbed to the X and is shimmying his way across, Creed kicks Sabin in the head and pulls Sabin down. Top rope bulldog by Creed to Shelley, and Creed climbs while Lethal holds off Sabin. Shelley is back in and they hit a version of Poetry in Motion on Lethal, then pull Creed down off the X. Shelley facelocks Creed while Sabin climbs, Creed runs Shelley into the ropes, which crotches Sabin. Tilt-a-whirl backbreaker by Lethal, Russian leg sweep by Creed, snap mare and chinlock by Lethal and a basement dropkick by Creed. Beautiful. Lethal climbs now while Creed climbs up with Sabin. Sabin pushes him off, then Shelley helps him walk the top rope to cut off Lethal. Lethal is hanging upside down from the X! Sabin has him in a superplex position and now everyone is up there. I smell tower of doom! Oh my bad, that was Tropical Paradise Glade Scented Oil. In fact Lethal has broken free and scooted across the X. Sabin follows equally fast and they kick each other off the X. Lethal gets boot to each of the Guns as they charge in, springboard missile dropkick by Creed to Sabin! SUPERKICK to Creed by Shelley! DRAGON SUPLEX by Lethal!! Enziguiri by Sabin to Lethal, followed by a tornado DDT! STIFF clothesline by Creed to Sabin! Superkick to Shelley. Double team inverted powerbomb/Cutter by Lethal and Creed. Lethal slaps on a Boston Crab to Sabin while Creed climbs, Shelley is in to cut him off. Springboard clothesline/powerbomb combo by the Guns. Sabin is right there by the X...LETHAL! He hits the Lethal Combo, then goes up to the top with Shelley but Sabin is over...MADE IN DETROIT! Shelley sells a bad knee while Sabin once again climbs...He's right on the X but Creed is up! Creed jumps from the top rope right to the X, but Sabin drops with it!
Winners: Motor City Machine Guns via retrieval Rating: ***½
Lauren is with British Invasion. Doug Williams says they are the best tag team in TNA, and the World Elite has done everything they wanted to do. Life is pretty good in the US, he says. Magnus says not to get carried away, the place is stillfull of fat useless slobs. He says alcohol and money are the only thing that Americans care about. He forgot health care reform. Tonight they take out Beer Money. Sorry about their bloody luck.
JB is with Beer Money. This is their last shot apparently. They don't seem very happy about the comments of the Brits.
Roode takes down Williams with a back elbow and gets a mount, Williams throws him off but gets clotheslined. Flying forearm gets 2 for Roode, Magnus tries to break it but hits his partner. Gutwrench suplex by Williams gets control. Tag to Magnus who whips Roode in hard. Tag back to Williams and they hit the tandem necktie. 2 count for Williams. Roode blocks a charge and tries to fight his way to a tag but Williams blocks it and reaches his foot back to tag in Magnus. Magnus drops an elbow on Roode's taped ribs, then locks in a camel clutch. Roode fights out but Magnus goes to the ribs. Roode reverses a whip and sends Magnus to the cage wall, then hits a spinebuster. Both men are down, tag to Williams and now to Storm! Forearms everywhere! Baaaack body drops for each man. He is a house! En! FUEGO~! Lungblower to Magnus, a rib-breaker/uranage combo for Williams. 1...2...no. Roode in, they lift Magnus in suplex position into the cage wall, then hit the double suplex. Wait for it...
BEER!
MONEY!
Catapult by Roode to Williams into a DDT by Storm! 1...2...no! Storm puts Williams up top but Magnus takes Storm out. They signal for the European Hart Attack, but Williams is climbing to the top...of the cage! Storm gets an enziguiri on Magnus and climbs up after Williams. OH FUCK TOWER OF DOOM OFF THE TOP OF THE CAGE!!! Brutus Magnus just saved Storm's life on that. Storm was overbalancing and Magnus adjusted to make sure Storm did not land on his head. DWI CONNECTS!!! 1...2...MAGNUS stops the ref from counting three, then nails him! Officials come swarming from the locker room, and Earl Hebner calls for the DQ!
Winners: Beer Money via DQ (ref beating) Rating: ***
Angle is dressed to compete and headed to the ring! Commerical!
We're back and Lauren is asking AJ about the issue between him and Daniels after the tag match. AJ brushes her off, and som,eone attacks him! Looked like Desmond Wolf again to me, definite light on bald head.
Angle is coming out, he calls out "whatever your name is" and tells him to come get some if he wants to make a name for himself. Tenay and Taz are taking every opportunity to drop Wolf's name. Angle gives him a few seconds to come out, then goes up the ramp to find him WOLF from the crowd takes Angle down! He takes the time to fold his suit jacket, giving Angle a chance to recover. He takes Wolf to the announce table then brings him to the ring where Wolf kicks him in the nuts. TOWER OF LONDON! Wolf goes looking for a chair, which he holds over Angle's throat. He says it would be this easy, but he wants Angle to think about it. He then reminds Angle of his name. So, who thinks Nigel would have beat the shit out of a Shawn Michaels on his debut? Yeah, me neither.
Desmond Wolf injured himself on tonights episode of TNA Impact!
Posted By: True Story (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Best line ever by Taz...
"That's heavy cream on her abdomen"
That one line alone makes the hundred other miscues and slip ups he had unoticeable.
Posted By: Rich (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM
How bout them new guys all winning at Bound for Glory?
Angle in opening, Team 3d there as well , and here comes Rhyno.
Knockouts over Divas becuase they actually wrestle? Never bought that as we see the Beautiful People lead the division with that crap.
Tomko attacking AJ was cool, but it reeks of same old guys again.....
Posted By: SOS (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM
This was an amazing iMPACT. Better than RAW and ECW this week!
Posted By: cesarmania (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Nice line at the end of the report. Does it really matter if he would have attacked Michaels in his debut? This isn't WWE.
This is TNA's booking, and Lethal once pinned Angle clean on PPV, so what does it really mean?
Posted By: Who cares (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM
I DVRed the show and I rewound the kong bomb a few times. Could hear the guy ask ??? if she was all right. Sounded like he did say Rz or ras, which is pretty wierd since we all know who she is. but she replied in a voice without any sort of accent..."its not broken but I will have a bruise".
But anyway off a decent PPV tonight was pretty awesome. How tough is Daniels? Guy almost dies and is out doing that a few days later. They tape on Tues? So less than 72 hours from dying he is out there actually wrestling (not entertaining).
Stiener/morgan match total waste. And dont get the lashley wife thing whatsoever. Unless they are just line up tomato cans for Lashley from here on out.
Angle speech was stupid and having Nigel come in as a heel and turning Angle face is a wierd step. But no one does a turn like TNA. They took Rhino from hero to being booed out of the arena in two shows. So Angle is easy to push face.
But talent is getting too abundant now and to be truthful they almost need 2 shows to do it. No stupid splitting of "brands" but 4 hours to get all the talent they have on TV weekly. But no way in hell Nigel gets to beat down any named guy in the WWE like that right off the bat. Yeah I know I know he doesn't have the talent to compete with the WWE. Which is a frigging laugh TNA has 7 of the top 10 wrestlers if you stacked up actual talent side by side. Considering Angle is light years ahead of ANYONE WWE has makes him getting beat down a no argument on Nigel making a name by beating down the best wrestler around. Dont really like the angle but it could work.
Ultimate X and 6 sides of steel both better than anything WWE has shown this year for free, and better than most of their PPV matches. X started off slow but once they got loosened up it was on. Steel was just sick. And the finish was predictable but perfect. So it works.
Good show and if it was a RAW episode it would have been the best one in about 3 years. And what makes it more impressive is that it was with injured and beat up guys off a major league PPV.
Posted By: Rich (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:41 PM
That impact was...
AWESOME.
Posted By: Well ill be damned. (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:47 PM
How bout them new guys all winning at Bound for Glory?
Angle in opening, Team 3d there as well , and here comes Rhyno.
Knockouts over Divas becuase they actually wrestle? Never bought that as we see the Beautiful People lead the division with that crap.
Tomko attacking AJ was cool, but it reeks of same old guys again.....
Posted By: SOS (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Yeah after watching that debut all anyone is saying is they're pushing the same guys are you serious?
Posted By: Guest#0506 (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:56 PM
DESMOND WOLFE 4 LiFe!
Posted By: JF (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:58 PM
I remember a no name nobody coming out a few years ago and beating the tar out of kurt angle on smackdown. He went on to have a fairly decent career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAJdjeV3ZuA
Posted By: JC (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:07 AM
im really liking tnas new approach although ive always sided with tna.a new main event scene is needed.i dont mind angle staying cause he still can work amazing.wwe needs to take notes on how to push the young gen.and e fanboys need to accept that
Posted By: Guest#4383 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:12 AM
When will the replay be?...I DVRed Supernatural and my girl chose to tape Grays Anatomy because of work...
Posted By: Dwayne (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:17 AM
They dropped Booker for Nigel/Desmond? TRADE UP!
Seriously though, they need to get the Knockouts show or ANY second show so they have room for their talent to wrestle more than 3-5 minutes at a time.
Posted By: joemark0 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:28 AM
"Nice line at the end of the report. Does it really matter if he would have attacked Michaels in his debut? This isn't WWE."
For reals. If Nigel had attacked HBK in his debut and put some new blood into the main event scene, the fans would have RIOTED. "How dare they even try to change the SuperCena Vs. Orton Show!" they would cry.
Posted By: YouStayClassy (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I marked out the minute Nigel and Angle shared the same screen. The best move Nigel could have made in my opinion. What better way to start over than start over with a program with the best in the world today.
Posted By: Nigel! Nigel! Nigel! (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:46 AM
The Desmond Wolf name sucks but it was a really great debut. Being a fan of both TNA and WWE, i have to say TNA is on fire lately
Posted By: neilx (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:47 AM
good riddance, Raish....
Posted By: ICON (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:49 AM
"So, who thinks Nigel would have beat the shit out of a Shawn Michaels on his debut? Yeah, me neither."
Nice to see ya imitating that matt hardy 2.0 live for the moment shtick
So, who thinks two months from now this Desmond's beatdown is going to be overshadowed by piss poor booking by TNA?
Even you, Lansdell, would have to raise your hand
Posted By: christy (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:08 AM
Best part about Wolfe's lockerroom beat-down of Angle: putting his sunglasses back on before he walked away.
Posted By: Guest#5636 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:20 AM
Hey christy,
TNA booking > WWE booking right now
Posted By: Ed (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:25 AM
Shit, Raisha Saeed is stretchered out of the building....and presumable out of TNA forever huh? I will miss her accent lol.
Enter Alissa Flash full-time!
Posted By: Guest#9339 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:37 AM
Silly TNA watch when this push straight to the top blows up in your face like it always dose
there is a reason the WWE wouldn't of had Nigel debut by killing HBK
Posted By: hound89 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:54 AM
The Desmond Wolf name sucks but it was a really great debut. Being a fan of both TNA and WWE, i have to say TNA is on fire lately
Posted By: neilx (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Honestly, the name Nigel McGuinness is pretty hokey, but he made it work. Besides, who in wrestling doesn't have a name that sounds weird at first?
Posted By: Yep (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:57 AM
Interesting show to say the least. Liked Angle's promo to start the show where he really put over the young talent. Rhino cut a terrific promo and is really refreshed since turning heel. I am all for a Homicide-Red Feud but not a big fan of Homicide beating him in 2+ minutes even if he attacked and beat down Red before the Match. With Angle turning face and other entangled in other feuds not really sure what's next for Morgan. I didn't like Steiner's promo where he treated Morgan like a jabroni. Don't care about Lashley or his wife but Steiner goes after his wife and Lashley shows no intensity in attacking Steiner or in his backstage promo. Daniels-Styles Vs Nash-Joe was good while it lasted but didn't like Nash pinning Daniels clean and after the match Nash getting promo time while Joe(who is getting a world title shot) standing there like a putz. I guess the Legends title needs more build or whatever. Liked Daniels' promo before the match. That said jobbing like that doesn't do anything to help him. Kong Vs Saed didn't do anything for me but that bump off the powerbomb was sick.
Posted By: Guest#5327 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:00 AM
The second hour was much better with Desmond Wolfe's awesome debut where he beat down Angle backstage and looked like the biggest bad ass in wrestling. Like The McMG's new music and their match VS Lethal and Creed was very good. Good angle with A.J getting beat down by a bald guy with the being that it's Daniels when we know it's Tomko(glad to see him back in TNA.Beer Money Vs British Invasion was very solid but a dq finish in a cage match is lame. Loved the show closing angle with Wolfe's debut being booked as well as anyone's debbut can be booked.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:10 AM
Good job Rich for being the complete example of a TNA mark.
It's annoying that no matter what WWE does the TNA marks just says it all sucks and vise versa for what TNA does and the WWE marks say.If you don't like WWE,DON'T WATCH IT.If you don't like TNA,DON'T WATCH IT.Personally i like both,even though i honestly like WWE more i am still a fan of TNA.Just don't come on here and complain cause it's just annoying!
Posted By: Guest#2901 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:22 AM
Nice Nigel McLariat is awesome
Posted By: guesthehe (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:37 AM
Come back Angelina Love. Save TBP.
Posted By: Guest#0510 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:41 AM
Where was a Sting follow up?
AJ celebrating his HUGE win?
They didn't treat it as a Mania.
Posted By: Epic fail (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:48 AM
Best part about Wolfe's lockerroom beat-down of Angle: putting his sunglasses back on before he walked away.
Posted By: Guest#5636 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:20 AM
He could teach just about anyone in the buisness a thing or two about fashion.
Posted By: random (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 03:04 AM
Ed
You mean for the past 2 weeks? Yeah I agree. But this is wrestling, not the slinky. Kindly expand your attention span
Posted By: christy (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 03:38 AM
The Age of Desmond has begun!
Posted By: LBM (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 04:24 AM
With Jeff Jarrett and Dutch Mantell gone, Impact has gotten a helluva lot better. I'm convinced, Russo wasn't the problem this whole time, he was just the IWC's favorite fall guy. You all think I'm crazy don't you?
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 04:54 AM
Anyone else notice Nigel saying that he's "currently" known as Desmond Wolf before Taz name-dropped him as Nigel McGuinness? Are they taking a shot at WWE's renaming policy & maybe going with his "real" name later? Maybe "Desmond Wolf" was the name the 'E had come up for him? I know renaming the Knockouts has been a common practice but off the top of my head I can't think of a male indie wrestler that was renamed upon arriving in TNA (I'm sure you all will correct/enlighten me on the latter).
Posted By: Nolan (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 04:58 AM
I don't understand why the people compare TNA with WWE. They are a diferent product! Like ROH, CHIKARA, and many more... They have a kind of fans who has a diferent opinion about what is wrestling.
Oh, you forgot the rating of Hernandez's Match.
Posted By: Ricardo (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 05:18 AM
Some people can't let go of things and just enjoy a wrestling show these days. Is it possible to be just a wrestling fan? I have PWO, NWA Showcase, SAW, ROH, Dragon Gate USA, WWE, and TNA all on the same DVR box. Hasn't exploded yet.
Posted By: Acid (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 08:23 AM
TNA - Booker + Nigel = Many buys!
Impact was Awesome.
It was the perfect formula of young guys getting their time to shine with a touch of established talent to add some flavor.
Nigel/Angle, Joe/Styles/Daniels, British Invasion/Beer Money
That wouldn't be a bad start to Turning Point.
Posted By: Randy M. (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 08:24 AM
Another mediocre Impact. Thank god Danielson made the right choice unlike Nigel. You gotta feel bad for him.
Posted By: Mich Rony (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 09:08 AM
As long as TNA allows wrestlers to cut their OWN promos like the gold from Rhino tonight, they'll be ahead of WWE quality-wise.
Posted By: poffo316 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 09:13 AM
That was easily the absolute best episode of any wrestling program in the year 2009, and Desmond Wolf's debut was the most mark-out worthy / impactful first appearance of a wrestler on any show since Chris Jericho's debut on Raw so many years ago. Last night's Impact was simply awesome, and Wolf's debut was off the charts! I haven't felt this way watching any fed's current product in ages, and I've been a fan for almost thirty years! Wolf rocks!
Posted By: Joey. (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 09:40 AM
How bout them new guys all winning at Bound for Glory?
Angle in opening, Team 3d there as well , and here comes Rhyno.
Knockouts over Divas becuase they actually wrestle? Never bought that as we see the Beautiful People lead the division with that crap.
Tomko attacking AJ was cool, but it reeks of same old guys again.....
Posted By: SOS (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Yeah because nothing says "same ol, same old" like Beer Money-British Invasion as the main event. WWE-tard!
Nice line at the end of the report. Does it really matter if he would have attacked Michaels in his debut? This isn't WWE.
This is TNA's booking, and Lethal once pinned Angle clean on PPV, so what does it really mean?
Posted By: Who cares (Guest) on October 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM
The same could be said for when Carlito debuted and beat Cena. That turned out well didn't it? WWE-tard!
TNA has done an excellent job of making their show feel like an actual sporting event, right down to the introductions. No one does development of characters better than TNA at this point.
I do agree that perhaps they need to make Xplosion a one hour program so they don't have to rush everything. This way their matches have time to develop.
Other than that I loved this episode of Impact!
Posted By: Orlando (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 09:47 AM
Wow, I was thoroughly impressed with Impact. this has been the first time in a LONG time that I watched it start to end, and even longer since I was excited about it.
As for the Mafia, I was never a fan at all from the start, and am more than pleased to see it finish--and I do hope for good. It was a storyline that I felt went on waaay too long.
I hope this is the start of good things to come.
Posted By: CC Fanboy (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM
How long will this push for Desmond Wolf last. When I first watched TNA I was hopping that they would give Jeff Hardy that big push. They did for a while by giving him a X-division title match and two world title matche’s in the begaining. But then it just stoped, and Jeff Hardy went down hill in the month of April or May. You don’t think they would do that to Desmond would they.
Posted By: oh great (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM
The IWC lost their minds, bitched and moaned when McIntyre and Escobar were set to be in the main event at Bragging Rights. We hear about how "weak" the 14-man tag was going to be because of these no-names being on there.
But now, we are praising TNA for bringing in a traveled indy star and immediately taking a shot at Angle.
If McIntyre or Escobar had wrestled in a darling indy fed or Japanese company, the IWC would be salivating for them. Instead, they came up through WWE developmental and everybody whines about them not deserving anything.
Posted By: Guest#8889 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Anyone else notice Nigel saying that he's "currently" known as Desmond Wolf before Taz name-dropped him as Nigel McGuinness? Are they taking a shot at WWE's renaming policy & maybe going with his "real" name later? Maybe "Desmond Wolf" was the name the 'E had come up for him? I know renaming the Knockouts has been a common practice but off the top of my head I can't think of a male indie wrestler that was renamed upon arriving in TNA (I'm sure you all will correct/enlighten me on the latter).
actually he wrestled in tna before in his own name.. maybe that's why they did reveal his real name.
Posted By: kki (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM
The Desmond Wolf name sucks but it was a really great debut. Being a fan of both TNA and WWE, i have to say TNA is on fire lately
Posted By: neilx (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:47 AM
What would you rather have a wrestler with a great name but shit skills? or Nigel McGuinness with a crap name?
Posted By: lk25 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I MARKED THE FUCK OUT when Nigel (my 2nd fave wrestler) hit the screen.
You know why that was a great debut for Desmond Wolf(Have to get used to that name), because he seemed like he belonged in the same ring as Angle. Telling Angle "it would be this easy" with chair on his throat was great and did you hear and feel that crowd heat?
Here's hoping that Desmond Wolf is the next big thing and we see many many lariats in his route to the world title!
Posted By: Greatest Man That Ever Lived (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:09 PM
I feel like it was fate to see Desmond tonight because the first beatdown occured during a commercial break of It's Always Sunny.
In an episode with Green Guy.
Posted By: JustAGuyGuy (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM
"Come back Angelina Love. Save TBP. "
Seriously. This Lacey von Erich gal just doesn't have it. Not really sure what "it" is, but you know what I mean.
Posted By: d-money (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM
TNA is starting to fall into the "everyone looking the same" problem that WWE has had for a while (with Orton, Cena, and Batista). Too many bald heads going on (Angle, Daniels, Young, Wolfe, and now possibly Tomko) -- from the back row, you'd be hard-pressed to tell who's who.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM
If McIntyre or Escobar had wrestled in a darling indy fed or Japanese company, the IWC would be salivating for them. Instead, they came up through WWE developmental and everybody whines about them not deserving anything.
Posted By: Guest#8889 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM
That's because the majority of crew-cut, tatooed, jacked-up guys who come out of the old Stamford Meat Grinder have sucked hard. Nigel came straight out of ROH. Big difference.
Posted By: Joey. (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Anyone else getting a Jason Statham, "Transporter" like vibe off of Desmond Wolf? Well dressed, well mannered, and even took the time to properly fold his jacket on the ring apron during the second beatdown. So awesome. Finally, an up-to-date pop culture reference in modern pro wrestling! Go Nigel!
Posted By: Joey. (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Cool impact. Seems like they're going in a new direction to push the new guys and I like it.
Feeding Steiner to Morgan wa sa good move to push him, although the though of a Lashley/Steiner feud is just "there" to me.
Nigel/Angle should be all kinds of awesome.
Seems they're teasing dissension with Daniels and A.J. Interested to see where that leads.
Like I've been saying, TNA is getting better and better and finally improving. They'll be a legitimate threat to WWE in no time.
Posted By: lilwayne1 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Another mediocre Impact. Thank god Danielson made the right choice unlike Nigel. You gotta feel bad for him.
Posted By: Mich Rony (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 09:08 AM
Actually, Mich Rony, you're the one we feel sorry for. It must be tough going through life without a brain.
Posted By: the ghost of Buddy Rogers (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:02 PM
Don't look now WWE, but there is this red little TNA in your rear view window.
I am a WWE fan, but these TNA guys are giving me what I want in wrestling action. I mean I LOVE the direction they are going with giving us fresh new guys and not the guys I grew up with (I am 41). I am truly impressed with the flow of the show.
This Wolf guy (yeah ROHbots I know who he is) had a very impressive debut. I was impressed with his mannerisms. Almost reminded me of Berlin (of WCW).
that SICK SICK SICK Tower of Doom ... My god TNA we have had two near deaths in the last week... Jeebus..
I really liked the Ulti-X tag team match...
That is the action I am looking for TNA, WWE are you listening?
I am watching last nights episode on DVR again... I was that impressed.
Posted By: tstrike (Registered) on October 23, 2009 at 01:37 PM
I know renaming the Knockouts has been a common practice but off the top of my head I can't think of a male indie wrestler that was renamed upon arriving in TNA (I'm sure you all will correct/enlighten me on the latter).
Posted By: Nolan (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 04:58 AM
Consequences Creed originally went by Austin Creed but changed his name when he signed with TNA. If Im not mistaken Creed was the last Indy guy to debut for TNA before Nigel came in. Other than the two of them the only people that TNA has snatched up has been knockouts really.
A lot of guys do this so that they don't have to sign over the rights to their ring name and end up having to start from scratch once they leave the company.
If Nigel would have signed on as McGuinness then TNA would have trademarked the name and if he would leave he would be without an identity so to speak. So the name change makes since here.
Posted By: Guest#3484 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:42 PM
Good job Rich for being the complete example of a TNA mark.
It's annoying that no matter what WWE does the TNA marks just says it all sucks and vise versa for what TNA does and the WWE marks say.If you don't like WWE,DON'T WATCH IT.If you don't like TNA,DON'T WATCH IT.Personally i like both,even though i honestly like WWE more i am still a fan of TNA.Just don't come on here and complain cause it's just annoying!
Posted By: Guest#2901 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:22 AM
Yeah I am a mark. No, I just understand what GOOD wrestling is. I am the first one to say SD is a far superior product to RAW, now eeven close, but RAW is the 'flagship' show, and most WWE fans equate it that way. Also RAW does 2 to 2.5 times as high a rating as SD to boot. So where are all these supposed WWE fans on Friday night? Unless Jericho makes an apperanace on RAW there isn't a single top 10 wrestler on that show, yet it is the one that gets all the viewers and all the hype and all the accolades. Basically because it is a frigging soap opera and not really a wrestling show, and yeah I know it isn't "wrestling" its "sports entertainment". Well they got both wrong there because it ain't sports and it surely hasnt been too entertaining.
I wathc all the shows, sometimes not live but off the DVR but I see them and can actually go back and watch stuff over and over again and see just how horrid RAW is,trust me it doesn't get better or more funny if you rewind it and listen to it again a few times.
I like stuff that is entertaining and fun to watch and makes me say "wow" once in awhile. Like that steel cage match did with the tower, even though it was sort of botched. I don't like watching the sameold schtick, DX comes out and takes 20 minutes usually havingone or more of their enemies comeout as well, then you get 20 minutes of whatever PPV they are having, then you get a shot of the host surrounded by the bella twins, and hornswaggle or Santino make an appearnace. Then Chavo gets bitch slpapped. Orton and Cena fight each other, and Cole says about 500000 times how this is one of the best fueds ever on WWE. Then Chavo goes out to the ring for anythign and the host and hornswoggle beat him down. Then Jericho comes out and tries to sound intelligent and calls the fans hypocrites and parasites a half dozen times. The host then sells whatever product he is selling or the WEE runs a infomercial on it.
That has basically been eevry RAW episode since what June? Not exactly cutting edge or anything really different. And it isn't even WWE it is RAW itself. Hell the superstar show actually has better wrestling. Kelly Kelly and Gail kim put on a better match than most of what you see on RAW, even better than they do themselves on RAW. Explain it.
Posted By: Rich (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 01:57 PM
"Come back Angelina Love. Save TBP.
Posted By: Guest#0510 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:41 AM"
Seriously, she was the only one who didn't embarass herself in the ring. TNA really needs her back with TBP and they need to cut Lacey.
"With Jeff Jarrett and Dutch Mantell gone, Impact has gotten a helluva lot better. I'm convinced, Russo wasn't the problem this whole time, he was just the IWC's favorite fall guy. You all think I'm crazy don't you?
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 04:54 AM"
I for one, would never have believed it myself. But as the saying goes "The proof is in the pudding". It sure looks like Dixie made the right decision by removing Jarrett & Company. For me, the product has gotten much better.
Posted By: mogamer (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:19 PM
Awesome Impact last night! Wow, TNA is getting a lot of praise on this site so they must be going in the right direction. I haven't been this excited about wrestling in a long time. I feel like it's 1998 again and TNA is the WWF with some grizzled vets, but mainly pushing new and fresh characters. WWE is WCW, on top, but pushing the same ol' guys and rehashing the same feuds over and over.
Posted By: dean1983 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 02:27 PM
"I know renaming the Knockouts has been a common practice but off the top of my head I can't think of a male indie wrestler that was renamed upon arriving in TNA (I'm sure you all will correct/enlighten me on the latter). "
I think the first one to do it was Low Ki coming in as Senshi (this was after he had been in the company before as Low Ki, but he changed it when he came back, since they started to want to trademark names without later dispute).
Austin Aries came in as Austin Starr before going back to ROH.
So it's happened before quite a bit. Mostly, it protects TNA and the wrestlers from later potential disputes.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 03:26 PM
Since I got my DVR I am really paying attention to stuff....
I taped Impact and I gotta say top to bottom, this show was very entertaining... cant wait to tape Smackdown for the first time tonight.
I agree with the post that says that TNA is the old Attitude WWF and that WWE has become WCW.
Does that make ROH = ECW?
My fantasy is for Shane to buy ROH and hire back Paul Heyman.
Posted By: tstrike (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 04:58 PM
I felt sorta sorry for Raisha Saeed in a way. The 'character' while not as important as Kong was still a familiar face we got used to. I assume TNA wants to spend time building up Alissa Flash so the ends probably justify the means here. Just hire Sara Del Rey and pair her with Flash so there's another KO tag team for Sarita and Taylor to feud with. Them bitches will kick some serious ass.
Posted By: Tacky Tina (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 05:40 PM
good wrestling here and a great Rhino promo. bye Raisha. and Homicide is slowly becoming my favorite tna wrestler (behind the chicks of course).
Posted By: tully (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 06:52 PM
too many people writing off rasha in here. No law says they can't pull a swerve and put someone else in that suit. Roxy if they want to unmask her some time or Angelina Love if they just want her back and hide her from the feds. Would be kind of hard to explain how she and raisha were in 2 places at once. but I am not sure if Raisha and Roxy were ever seen together.
But with Russo you can't count anyone out even someone who was made to look completely destroyed.
Posted By: Rich (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 07:23 PM
Wow, did I really just see that? An iMPACT without a single match bisected by a commercial break!? Great, great matches too. Story-rich and athletic. Keep this up, guys, please!
Posted By: TNA! (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 07:26 PM
"The IWC lost their minds, bitched and moaned when McIntyre and Escobar were set to be in the main event at Bragging Rights. We hear about how "weak" the 14-man tag was going to be because of these no-names being on there.
But now, we are praising TNA for bringing in a traveled indy star and immediately taking a shot at Angle.
If McIntyre or Escobar had wrestled in a darling indy fed or Japanese company, the IWC would be salivating for them. Instead, they came up through WWE developmental and everybody whines about them not deserving anything.
Posted By: Guest#8889 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM"
To even try to compare those two no names to someone as well traveled and seasoned as Nigel McGuinnes is a damn shame. They came up through developmental probably because of their good looks more than anything. You say "traveled indy star" like that means nothing. Nigel was a draw on the indy scene and was a big part of the reason a lot of people stuck with ROH after guys like C.M. Punk, Samoa Joe, and Homicide left. He's wrestled all around the world and frequently for one of the top promotions in Japan in NOAH. He was ranked among the Top 10 singles wrestlers by Pro Wrestling Illustrated.
Now I'm not saying McIntyre and Escobar don't deserve a spot on the roster...but there's no comparison as far as popularity and reputation.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 07:41 PM
Poor Raisha I like her. I hope they don't get rid of her. Bring her back and put her in World Elite (Syrian).
Alissa Flash can get a big push now hopefully.
Posted By: Guest#8582 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 08:37 PM
With TNA finally getting on a role, with young guys stepping into the spots that many have been clamoring for, the only question that remains is whether or not TNA is going to get paid off for their developments. I ordered the BFG show, mainly to see the end to Sting's run and the rise of AJ Styles as the top guy, but the tag match, Kurt/Morgan, Lashley/JOE, Ultimate X and the like, made for it being an excellent show.
Whether or not the IWC pays off TNA for these changes, is a question that most aren't sure of the answer. Turning Point, next month, already has Styles/JOE/Daniels, Kurt/Wolfe, and the MCMG getting a shot at the tag belts, and if this kind of show is something that the IWC can't even be bothered with putting their money up for, TNA should, in my opinion, flat out right off the internet, focus on making the moves that they feel work for them, and move on.
TNA doesn't release buyrate info, but if they don't get paid off on this card, a card with matches and guys in top positions that the "IWC" has been crying for, there is honestly no value in following what the "IWC" wants, since they would've exposed themselves as leaches, who only want what they want to see on TV, without fronting any of the money to see that happen. Period.
If Nigel/Wolfe vs. Angle, in a match that is looking like the semi-main event, is not enough to get 7,000-10,000 "IWC" BUYS, there is no worth in forcing Nigel onto the tops of the cards, since people aren't willing to pay for it.
TNA wouldn't follow that up with burying Nigel, since he is still a quality talent, but they wouldn't feel the urgency to continue the push on top for him, holding off title opportunities, and settling him into, what I feel is a natural fit for Wolfe, his role as the "main event threat" of World Elite, and cutting short his feud with Angle, in order for Angle to go to the top feud against AJ Styles, in a matchup that TNA knows is a draw.
If the "IWC" is actually going to commit money to seeing Wolfe's top push continue, you can stretch out the Angle feud, and even mix him in with AJ, if the money's there.
I doubt most folks on here would actually commit their money, to actually pay for something, but a guy can dream.
If not, sites like this will continue being the places, where "fans" go to cry about how TNA, or their favorite company, refuses to give away PPV level matches on free TV, while, surprisingly(sarcasm), asking them to actually pay for the wrestling they want.
Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on October 23, 2009 at 09:21 PM
So, who thinks Nigel would have beat the shit out of a Shawn Michaels on his debut? Yeah, me neither.
Come on?? Michaels lost to Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase. and Let's face it, they are both better than just about anyone in TNA. Nice debut by WOLFE, but big deal, its the same Angle that was done with Angle vs Cena when he debuted.
WWE is FAR Superior to TNA and always will be. 90% of TNA guys would just be WWE midcarders at best.
CENA > TNA > ROH
Posted By: CenaRULES (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 01:27 AM
WWE is FAR Superior to TNA and always will be. 90% of TNA guys would just be WWE midcarders at best.
CENA > TNA > ROH
Posted By: CenaRULES (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 01:27 AM
With the HBK thing he was talking about the debut but I see your point. HBK has made Legacy look good in the last few months.
For some reason the TNA guys being jobber comment bothered me. Maybe its because I don't treat WWE as the end all be off of wrestling. Or that WWE being more popular doesn't mean its better IMO.
Posted By: Guest#1765 (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 04:42 AM
So where is Booker anyway? Gone, but where? Was his contract up?
Posted By: Mike (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 02:27 PM
So, who thinks Nigel would have beat the shit out of a Shawn Michaels on his debut? Yeah, me neither.
Ya, remember when The Great Khali made his debut. Or Carlito. No, didn't think so.
Posted By: Guest#4342 (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 04:04 PM
WWE is FAR Superior to TNA and always will be. 90% of TNA guys would just be WWE midcarders at best.
CENA > TNA > ROH
Posted By: CenaRULES (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 01:27 AM
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lol, 99% of the WWE talent over the past 5 years have been mid carders LOL
And you pretty much just proved whats wrong with the E. The fact that AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Matt Morgan, MCMG etc wouldn't be given the opportunity to be nothing more than low midcarders like Bourne is right now is the problem.
But overall it doesn't matter. I'm going to order Turning Point if the build to it remains like this....the WWE has one must see PPV a year and thats mostly because of its rep..... well maybe the Royal Rumble also...
Posted By: Industry (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 04:57 PM
Anyone realized that since Mantell and Jarrett left, tna has slowly gotten better and better as each of mantell and jarretts storylines came to an end? Coinkydink? I think not.
Posted By: Camtraction (Guest) on October 24, 2009 at 06:36 PM
This week's episode of Impact was good. TNA has been on a roll lately. The Angle by himself, Rhino, and Team 3D promo to start was a change of pace. Foley and Abyss having the night off was good selling following BFG. The Homicide vs Red machine was short but sweet. The Steiner vs Morgan match was pure feud building. The Nash and Joe vs Daniels and Styles match was decent for a Nash match. Daniels must have nine lives!!! Gee! the Beautiful People had a food fight with the Knockouts tag team champs. The Kong vs Saeed match was good even if predictable. The Rhino vs Hernandez match was decent. It should be interesting to see where the Team 3D and Rhino storyline takes us. The MCMGs vs Lethal Consequences Ultimate X number one contenders tag team match stole the show. It was great seeing these two teams actually work instead of having their talents wasted by TNA management. These are two of the best tag teams today. The MCMGs deserve a title run. The Beer Money vs British Invasion steel cage tag team title match was great. It wasn't quite as good as the prior match, but still you have to give everyone involved their props. McGuiness attack on Angle to end the night was interesting. Hey, Spike TV!!! Rich is right TNA needs two shows a week.
Posted By: Sting/Flair fan (Guest) on October 25, 2009 at 05:40 PM
I heart Kristall Marshall. It was good to see her again.
Posted By: just me (Guest) on October 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
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