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411's WWE Raw Report 02.08.10
Posted by Rob McNew on 02.08.2010





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-Live from the Cajundome in Layfayette, LA

-Hosted by Michael Cole & Jerry "The King" Lawler

-We open things up with Carl Edwards peeling into the arena in his stock car. I've seen this somewhere before. Is this a rerun? Instead of Carl Edwards getting out of the car we have Hornswoggle, and Kelly Kelly is in the ring to introduce Carl Edwards. Edwards comes to the ring accompanied by official guest host chaperones The Bella Twins. Edwards does his trademark backflip into the ring, and immediately goes for the cheap pop calling Louisiana the home of the Super Bowl Champions. Edwards says speaking of Super Bowls next Sunday is the Super Bowl of NASCAR the Daytona 500. He says as guest host he has a lot to live up to, as we saw Kyle Busch and Joey Logano here before. He says he has something they don't have, and that's a friend in the WWE. That man is John Cena. That doesn't exactly impress WWE Champion Sheamus as he decides to come out for a word with Edwards. Sheamus says his Super Bowl is in seven weeks, and its Wrestlemania. He says he plans on walking into Wrestlemania WWE Champion, and that means he has to win the Elimination Chamber. As WWE Champion he demands that Edwards makes him the last participant in the chamber match. He doesn't want Edwards doing favors for his buddy John Cena just because he got beat up by Batista last week. He says Edwards isn't the guest host of Raw, but a guest on his show. He will do what Sheamus says, or he won't make it to Daytona. That brings out Christian for a rather random interruption. Christian introduces himself to Edwards, and says NASCAR is blowing up in Canada. It makes him pretty happy they were denied a WNBA franchise. Sheamus asks what Christian is doing here, and he says Edge said he would face Taker or Sheamus and didn't mention him. He was offended at first, but it all made sense once Vince made his announcement cancelling ECW. Sheamus says that makes him a lame duck champion, but Christian thinks Sheamus is the one who is lame. He throws a few insults at Sheamus's look, but Sheamus says the only thing funny is that Christian will be unemployed in a few weeks. Christian says that's where he's wrong because in two weeks every ECW star is a free agent. He thought the peeps on Raw were starting to miss him, so he figured he'd show up and challenge Sheamus tonight. He says they're both here, both champions, and both born without last names so it makes perfect sense. Edwards gets a referee and the match is on right now!

Sheamus vs. Christian
Sheamus takes Christian over with a headlock, and follows with a knee to the gut. Sheamus charges into the corner, but runs into a back elbow from Christian. Christian goes to the second rope but is caught by Sheamus who delivers a fall away slam. Sheamus delivers a clothesline sending Christian to the floor and we head to break. We're back with Sheamus still in control with an armbar, but Christian quickly turns the tide hitting the ropes. They collide with shoulderblocks, but Christian gets the worse of it and Sheamus retains control. Sheamus charges at Christian who pulls down the top rope sending Sheamus to the floor. Christian hops over the top rope and delivers a crossbody all the way down the floor. Sheamus comes back to ram Christian's shoulder into the ringpost, and drives him into the barricade. Back inside they go as Sheamus begins to work over the injured shoulder. Sheamus grabs a hammerlock, and follows by driving Christian's shoulder into the top buckle. Christian comes back with a back elbow, and delivers a missile dropkick to start a comeback attempt. Christian gets dropped to the apron, but comes right back to drop Sheamus's throat across the top rope. Christian hits a back elbow off the top rope, but gets caught on a springboard. Christian hammers out, and then dodges the pump kick but runs into a double axehandle. Christian comes back with a bicycle kick in the corner, and delivers a DDT for two. Christian goes for the killswitch, but Sheamus counters and dumps him to the apron. Christian goes to the top rope, but gets caught and Sheamus fires the injured shoulder to the post. Sheamus delivers the pump kick, and finishes Christian with the Razor's Edge at 9:43. No matter how hard they try no one is buying this goof's title reign. Case in point they had to bring the Champion of the show that is getting cancelled over to put him over…and the crowd still didn't buy it.
Winner: Sheamus (Pinfall-Razor's Edge **3/4)

-Triple H is watching in the back, and Shawn stops by to say he knows he's been a big pre-occupied with the whole Undertaker thing. He says he's had time to think about it, but now he's thinking about it and DX has never been a part of Wrestlemania. Shawn says maybe DX can go to Wrestlemania, but HHH cuts him off and says he did qualify for the chamber. He says he's going to win in the chamber and go to Wrestlemania as WWE Champion. Shawn says it's all about him now, and walks off in disgust.

-Lawler announces Bret is banned from the building tonight, and we get the footage that aired on Smackdown after Raw went off the air of Batista beating the shit out of Cena.

-Cody stops by Ted's locker room to ask if he was pretty proud of himself. Ted says qualifying for Elimination Chamber, and Cody says he had to face Cena while Ted only had to beat Mark Henry. Ted tells him to stop whining, and Cody asks if he would have beat Cena? Ted says he's better than him, and Orton stops by to ask if Ted thinks he's better than him. Ted says we'll see at the chamber. Orton says Ted gets his chance to put Cody's theory to the test as he'll face Cena tonight. Meanwhile while Orton appreciates Cody trying to help at the Rumble, and knows he meant well, he'll be facing Orton himself tonight.

WWE Unified Tag Team Championship Three Team Elimination Match: Luke Gallows & CM Punk (w. Serena) vs. The Miz & The Big Show vs. D-Generation X ©
Punk says its no big secret that this region of the country turns to drugs and alcohol when they hit hard times. This makes it all the more sad because when they have something celebrate like Mardi Gras or that little football game they won they do the same thing. Punk goes through his normal sermon until he finds Jared from Subway in the crowd. Punk says Jared is a lot like him and asks him because he's such a good Subway spokesperson he should be the minister of propaganda for the Straight Edge Society. He asks Jared to be the spokesperson, and accept Punk as his savior but Jared declines. Punk wants to make an example out of him, but DX is out to put a stop to that. Gallows attacks Miz before the bell, but DX puts a stop to that and fires all of the heels outside. Eventually they fire Miz on top of the other three and we head to break before the bell rings. We're joined in progress out of the break with Michaels and Punk in the ring. Punk hits a running high knee on Shawn, and delivers a running bulldog. Miz was also legal in the ring, and he tags in Big Show. Show whips Punk into Shawn in the corner but misses an avalanche. Both HHH and Gallows tag in as the big men all square off. Gallows and HHH double team Show, but he fights them both off with headbutts. Show delivers a series of bodyshots to Gallows and hits an open hand slap. He gives one to HHH for good measure, and levels Gallows with a clothesline. HHH comes back into the fray with a facebuster, and goes for the pedigree on Show only to get dumped over the top to the floor as we head for another break. We're back with Punk, Miz, and HHH now legal, and its Punk in control. Punk drops an elbow across the knee of HHH and holds on to it until it is broken up with a kick. Miz takes a chance to pounce on HHH and pound him down in the corner. He whips Punk into the corner where HHH gets a boot up, and then explodes with a clothesline taking out Miz. Punk comes back with a dropkick to Miz for two, but Miz answers with a chinbuster. Miz hits a running clothesline in the corner on Punk, but as he heads to the top rope Serena pulls him off to the floor. Miz gives chase after her, but runs into HHH who delivers a spinebuster on the floor. HHH goes for the tag which he makes, and Shawn comes in with a flying forearm on Punk. Shawn hits an inverted atomic drop and bodyslam before heading up top for a vintage Michaels elbow drop. Shawn tunes up the band, but Gallows puts a stop to it with a big boot. HHH runs off Gallows, and Punk goes for the GTS on Shawn. Shawn is able to counter though into sweet chin music to eliminate the Straight Edge Society at 8:47. Shawn and HHH give each other a look of approval, but Show is in to deliver a clothesline taking out both guys. Shawn tries to fight back as Show talks trash with a chop, but Show puts him down right away with a headbutt. Show walks across the prone body of Michaels, and follows up with a bodyshot. Shawn pulls himself up and tries to fight back with a series of right hands. Show whips Shawn into the corner, but charges into a boot from HBK. Show catches Shawn with a side suplex as he goes for the tag, and that gets a two count. Miz tags in and delivers a running boot to a seated Shawn for two, and locks in a chinlock. Shawn fights to his feet, but Miz stops him from tagging by pulling him down by the hair. Running knee lift by Miz sets up a neckbreaker for two, so Miz sets up for the Skull Crushing Finale. Shawn fights that off, and kicks Miz into the corner where he is able to tag in Show. Michaels goes for the tag, but Show pulls him off. Shawn delivers Sweet Chin Music out of nowhere, and that allows both men to make tags. HHH hits Miz with a high knee, and a face buster before knocking Show off the apron. HHH hits a spinebuster, and Shawn tags himself into the match. HHH takes exception to that, and Miz sees the opening to ram Shawn into HHH and roll him up to capture the win and the titles at 14:22. All hail the Miz Show! Let the DX breakup begin. HHH stares a hole in Shawn after the match and Shawn walks off in frustration. Really fun match that again leaves Wrestlemania in doubt. Every week I change my mind. Is it Taker-Shawn or HHH-Shawn?
Winners: NEW WWE Unified Tag Team Champions: The Big Show & The Miz (Miz pins Michaels-Rollup ***1/2)

-Josh Mathews is with the new Unified Tag Team Champions. Show says they did something that he and Jericho could never do and that's beat DX. Show says Miz treats him like an equal and a friend. Miz says they will dominate all the shows because they're the Miz Show and they're awesome. Show corrects him and says it's "Show-Miz." Miz likes the sounds of that.

-Shawn heads through the locker room looking for Teddy Long. Shawn wants to be traded to Smackdown, and Teddy wants to know about DX. He says he doesn't care about DX he wants to go to Smackdown and get put in the Elimination Chamber. He becomes World Champion and gives Taker his rematch at Wrestlemania. Teddy says he'd love to have him, but the people in the chamber already earned their shot. Shawn begs Teddy, but HHH stops him and asks if he wants to throw this all away for this obsession. Shawn says his career is over, and superkicks Teddy Long before walking away.

Gail Kim vs. Jillian Hall
Maryse is on commentary for this one as we have no intros for this at all. Jillian whips Gail into the corner, and then runs into a back elbow. Jillian turns around to pull Gail off the second rope, but Gail reverses a bodyslam into the falling big boot for the win at 0:58. Should have just cut the whole segment if that was all they were getting. Afterward Maryse congratulates Gail, and says she wants to have the best match of her life with her. Maryse cuts a promo in French, and wishes her good luck before shaking hands saying "may the best diva win." Whatever.
Winner: Gail Kim (Pinfall-Falling Big Boot DUD)

-The first inductee into the WWE Hall of Fame class of 2010 is "Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase. This is a long overdue induction.

-Jared and Carl Edwards talk about five dollar footlongs when they are joined by Santino, and he of course botches the five dollar footlong song. Santino wants revenge on Jack Swagger for taking him out of the Rumble, so Edwards books him with Swagger on Superstars. Kofi Kingston stops by and Carl apologizes for not putting him in a match. Kofi says he could probably use a week off, but he doesn't want to get rusty so next week he proposes all six Elimination Chamber participants in random singles matches. Edwards wants to know if he should he book those now, or leave them for the guest host next week. Santino thinks he should leave something for next week's host who he's sure stands for civility and human decency. Of course that leads to the announcement that Jerry Springer hosts Raw next week.

Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton
Cody gets the jobber entrance as if we didn't already know the outcome. Orton gets in Cody's face and Cody tries to keep his cool but finally smacks Orton's hand away. Orton attacks but Cody delivers a quick standing dropkick for two. Cody ducks a right hand and delivers a side Russian Legsweep for two. Orton comes back to drop Cody on the top rope, and sets him up on the top rope. Orton goes up after him and sets up for a superplex, but Cody fights him off and goes for a top rope crossbody. Orton ducks and sets up for an RKO. Sheamus provides a distraction but running in and sliding back out, and that allows Cody to deliver Cross Rhodes from behind to pick up the shocking upset at 2:44. Sheamus then slides in delivering a pump kick, but Rhodes runs him off with a chair.
Winner: Cody Rhodes (Pinfall-Cross Rhodes *1/2)

-Josh Mathews is with Carl Edwards who has a major announcement. He says he wants to give WWE Universe something we'll never forget. Next week all six Elimination Chamber participants face off in singles matches. We get Sheamus vs. Orton, Kingston vs. Dibiase, and Cena vs. HHH live from God's Country. Des Moines, IA.

Ted Dibiase vs. John Cena
Cena attacks immediately before the bell and fires Dibiase to the floor. Cena fires Dibiase into the barricade, and locks the STF in on the floor. Referees come out to pull Cena off as Dibiase taps on the floor, and Cena grabs the mic. Cena says he doesn't come here tonight to have a match, and he isn't wasting any more time. He doesn't want to know why Batista did what he did because it's done and he can't change it. He now just wants to fight him. He says Batista was sent to take him out last week, but it didn't work as he's still here. He challenges Batista to come out and finish the job. He says he isn't going anywhere until Batista shows up. That sends us to break
No Match

-We're back and Cena's still talking. He says Batista is either scared for his life, and he should be, or now that he thinks about it maybe Batista's unwarranted attack was a business decision. When Cena thinks about business decisions and that's Vince McMahon. He says he called Vince pathetic two weeks ago, and since he doesn't take too kindly to being embarrassed he was attacked on Raw. He says since Vince is likely behind this if he's not going to fight Dave Batista he'd really like to talk to Vince McMahon. Vince comes out with security, and Cena mocks him for bringing ten security guards. He says the sad thing is Vince thinks that's enough to stop him. He tells Vince to bring a tank next time, and says he can do one of two things. He can get in the ring and they'll talk like men or he can send the goons in the ring and he'll mow them all down which will only make him more angry. Vince gets in the ring and says he's not scared at all of getting in the ring with the almighty John Cena. Vince says he's the supreme alpha male, and when God created the heavens and Earth it wasn't Adam he had in mind. It was Vince. Vince admits it was a business transaction between him and Batista, and how he used him to help him screw Bret again. Vince says he had nothing to do with Batista taking out Cena. Cena asks why he should believe that the man he paid to take out Bret Hart just convienently took him out as well. Vince theorizes that it might be because Cena eliminated him, or it might be just because he doesn't like him. Vince says he doesn't like Cena either, but he does like him from a business sense. Cena screams that it's all about the money with Vince, and gives an impassioned speech about how Vince took a good man like Dave Batista and paid him off. He says the difference between him and Vince is he does this because he loves it. Cena goes for the cheap Saints pop, and tells Vince you can't put a price tag on that crowd. He says he does it because in two weeks he goes into the Elimination Chamber and wins the title. He does it for Wrestlemania when he can hold the title high in front of 75,000. He says the superstars do it and the fans watch it for the moment. Cena says he talked to Bret Hart last week, and he wants another moment. Cena says Bret said last week that wants to wrestle another match. Cena says Bret wants to wrestle another match at Wrestlemania, and he wants his opponent to be Vince McMahon. Vince says that's the one thing Bret doesn't want, but Cena says yes he does. Cena says here is Vince's chance to have a Wrestlemania moment. Cena asks if Vince is about the money or the moment, and leaves but Vince stops him. He says he's bout both, but he really doesn't think Bret wants any of him. Cena asks him again yes or no. Vince screams at Cena to shut up, and says absolutely the answer is yes. Cena thanks Vince for telling him to his face, but he's got one more person left to tell. Vince says he does want to tell Bret to his face, and he's sure Bret is watching up in Canada, but he wants to remind him one more time why he doesn't want any of him. We get a recap of Vince and Batista's sneak attack on Bret from last week, but when that finishes playing Bret attacks from the crowd and Vince bails. Bret fights off some security, and Vince bails but not before telling Bret he changed his mind. He says the answer is now no, because Bret deserves to be screwed. Bret goes after Vince, and in a scene reminiscent of Montreal Bret destroys some lighting equipment and also some TV monitors. This really didn't come off very well, as for whatever reason Bret just didn't seem that into it.


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I'm a huge Hit Man fan, but now he's become a caricature of himself.

The truth is this: Bret Sold Out.


Posted By: Why Bret Why (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:15 PM

 
 
"This really didn't come off very well, as for whatever reason Bret just didn't seem that into it."

It was bit awkward, but then, Bret isn't exactly Mr. Charisma, either. I think mid-nineties Bret would've pulled it off the same way.


Posted By: Scott (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:15 PM

 
 
Bret Hart is now a caricature of himself. Bret, you sold out.

Posted By: Why Bret Why? (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:16 PM

 
 
You know, I am fully expecting John Cena to turn green and morph four times larger at this point.

Every week he comes out and takes a few moves from the opponent, no sells, then does one of his limited moves and cuts a promo using the cheesiest crowd pops.

There is no doubt going to be hatred for John Cena when he is crammed down everyone's throats and then expected to be treated like Hercules.


Posted By: Le pitre (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:17 PM

 
 
This was the best RAW in a LONG time. I enjoyed everything. Carl Edwards had no flubs at all. Sheamus looked great and that match with Christian helped both guys. Showmiz is a good choice for tag titles.

This Raw hyped next weeks show, EC PPV, and Mania can't do better than that. WWE has direction and this was some exciting stuff to watch.


Posted By: ROH Commish (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:20 PM

 
 
another great show! raw is getting good!

Posted By: jeff (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:21 PM

 
 
@ Scott

STFU you dont know sh#t about wrestling obviously. Bret made wrestling interesting and realistic so eat a d!ck. and whoever disagree you can eat a d!ck too. LOSER'S


Posted By: hartfan (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:26 PM

 
 
You're crazy, Bret was great tonight! That was as close as you can get in this day and age of wrestling of almost believing that someone legitimately wanted to kill the other guy, that segment was fantastic.

Posted By: Guest#3598 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:26 PM

 
 
"Vince says he's the supreme alpha male, and when G.od created the heavens and Earth it wasn't Adam he had in mind. It was Vince."

Greatest line in the history of the WWF/E.

EVER


Posted By: Vince = Gold (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:26 PM

 
 
The last segment was great. Suck it haters. Even Cena was good and Bret for having a stroke, was great.

Posted By: Guest#9792 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:27 PM

 
 
the first half of the show was great.

Christian getting a good match out of Sheamus. Good

Triple threat tag match was also good and felt longer then 14 minutes.

The HBK/HHH skit after that was also really good stuff.

I think after that the show started to fall


Posted By: Guest#9475 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:29 PM

 
 
Kudos to WWE creative for their brilliant work with HBK's character. Everyone is quick to shit on creative for their stupidity (and oftentimes it is justly deserved), so it's only fair to give them props when they earn it.

At this point in time, HBK-UT and HBK-HHH are both realistic possibilities for WM, and they've booked HBK's breakdown in such a masterful way that either match would send the fans into a frenzy. Now THAT is great booking.


Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:29 PM

 
 
Im not a Cena hater, but this Uber-Goodguy shit is growing old. I hope he turns on Bret at Wrestlemania. Fuck, do anything different

Posted By: Bleakk (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:31 PM

 
 
U know I can see that bret wasnt into it. Its been almost 10 years since he wrestled and tryin to go out and get moviated just doing a promo against the guy who basically fukd his career up. i say he wasnt into it but hey he signed to come back into once again

Posted By: Guest#5912 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:35 PM

 
 
The show was fine, but I was really disappointed by the booking decisions. Seamus cleanly beating Christian? In trying to make Seamus a credible heel and champion, they instead screwed over the ECW champion. And when Seamus won, it was like life itself was sucked out of the room; he got "disappointment" heat, which I'm sure was not what they were going for. People still don't buy Seamus as a top-level heel or as champion, but now they've managed to make ECW even MORE bush-league, which I thought at this point was impossible (I mean, they are already ending the whole show in 2 weeks, for God's sake). I guess it is true that the 'E just doesn't see Christian as a main eventer, no matter what he does.

The other was making Miz-Show tag champs. Nothing against them per se, but why them over The Straight Edge Society? Miz is U.S. champion, and Big Show is a main event-level heel. It's like they gave it to them because they just couldn't find anything interesting to do with the Big Show. Again, I think that they'll be good, and the titles HAD to come off DX, but I would have rather seen CM Punk as champion. Can you imagine, one of the best heels and talkers, now again a champion, and now able to travel through all the shows with his faction? It's like CM Punk continues to be a great, entertaining heel that the crowd loves to hate IN SPITE of all the efforts done by management to undermine him.


Posted By: Joey9922 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:37 PM

 
 
Been critical of RAW 95% of the time in 09' but this one was great, almost everything was good. Only critism I have was Cena mention Dibiase Sr. for his hard work, yet he beat the shit out of his son lol.

Posted By: 2 frsh 37 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:40 PM

 
 
You know, I am fully expecting John Cena to turn green and morph four times larger at this point.

Every week he comes out and takes a few moves from the opponent, no sells, then does one of his limited moves and cuts a promo using the cheesiest crowd pops.

There is no doubt going to be hatred for John Cena when he is crammed down everyone's throats and then expected to be treated like Hercules.

Posted By: Le pitre (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:17 PM

That would be amazing, each week I would tune in just to hear
HULK SMASH!!!!


Posted By: Guest#8576 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:41 PM

 
 
damn, why wasnt i the inductee tonight?

Posted By: Paul Roma (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:41 PM

 
 
What tag match? I got commercials, then right after CM Punk got pinned, and then HBK got pinned.

Posted By: Phil (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:43 PM

 
 
HHH-Shawn, Taker-Shawn..How about HHH-Shawn-Taker

Posted By: TheRev (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:43 PM

 
 
When you're reading off cue cards, you shouldn't have any major flubs.

Posted By: Mailman (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:43 PM

 
 
To be fair, Bret is Rusty, Retired and a Stroke Survivor. He's not exactly going to be the Bret Hart of 1985-1999.

Posted By: Tony Forever (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:44 PM

 
 
Line of the night:

"Go get me Jared from Subway."


Posted By: fresh (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:44 PM

 
 
So this is what I don't get, people bash TNA and hold up this crap.

"omg tna focuses too much on old timers like Hogan and Foley!!!"

Who are the primary focuses of Raw? Shawn Michaels, HHH, Undertaker (via HBK), Vince McMahon, Bret Hart. Where's Swagger? Kofi? Evan Bourne? MVP? Edge? John Cena, aside from Main Event Promo?

"Omg TNA just makes big matches with no build or advertising to drive ratings!!!"

Shaemus vs Christian, WWE champ vs ECW champ, no build curtain jerker.

"omg TNA crams too much into their shows!!!"

I prefer that over 4 matches, two of which were less than 4 minutes.

Bash the 3D vs Nastys feud all you want, I'd rather watch them cut promos than watch these WWE Divas attempt to do anything but be eye candy. I mean seriously, Gail Kim vs Kong in TNA was great, now look at her.

In closing, fuck Raw. The only thing worth watching is Bret but even that is growing stale. Nothing of signifigance will happen because they are building to Mania, and Bret won't wrestle on Raw. So it'll be 2 months of Bret vs Vinve promos as your main event. Which will be nothing more than "haha I screwed you again!" Nash vs Foley was better TV.


Posted By: How do you defend this (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:45 PM

 
 
Cody Rhodes FTW!!!

Posted By: Jay Maleezy (Registered)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:46 PM

 
 
What happened to Miz and MVP feuding? Is that over now? While Cena was tolerable I would love to see a heel turn. Geez he didn't start to get big until he debuted his rapper gimmmick wheere he bashed every city and other wrestlers.

Posted By: JM (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:48 PM

 
 
It's a little difficult to legitimately beat on Bret for the way he handled the closing segment. With a history of concussions and more importantly the stroke he suffered from, it's extremely hard for him to move around and do things like he used to. I don't think it's a lack of motivation, a lack of caring or even a lack of "seem[ing] that into it." He just can't physically move about like he used to.

Be that as it may, he's back to a) put Montreal behind him and b) once again give back to the fans that he has always remembered even during the 12 years he was out of the WWE. For one, it does pain me to see Bret as a shell of the wrestler he used to be. But I'm just happy to see him back, doing whatever he can in light of the health concerns. It's easy to see the passion is there. The other players in this storyline will just need to make up for the physical element that Bret just isn't able to deliver upon like he used to.


Posted By: Guest#8773 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:49 PM

 
 
"The show was fine, but I was really disappointed by the booking decisions. Seamus cleanly beating Christian? In trying to make Seamus a credible heel and champion, they instead screwed over the ECW champion. And when Seamus won, it was like life itself was sucked out of the room; he got "disappointment" heat, which I'm sure was not what they were going for. People still don't buy Seamus as a top-level heel or as champion, but now they've managed to make ECW even MORE bush-league, which I thought at this point was impossible (I mean, they are already ending the whole show in 2 weeks, for God's sake). I guess it is true that the 'E just doesn't see Christian as a main eventer, no matter what he does."

As much as I hate to see Christian used as job fodder for Sheamus (who has been a complete FLOP as champion, let's be honest), the argument that WWE is devaluing the ECW title & making ECW look bush league doesn't really hold water when the entire brand is going under in 2 weeks. If anything, whatever credibility ECW has left SHOULD be used to put over other talent... unfortunately, Christian is the only competitor on ECW who does have any real credibility.

Hopefully, management was impressed by Christian's work (IMO that was Sheamus' best match), and he will receive a nice push when he transfers over to RAW/Smackdown. That's the best you can hope for at this point.


Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:50 PM

 
 
I really enjoyed Raw this week. I thought the Christian/Seamus match was very good and helped both guys a little bit. The tag team title match was also very good. I would have preferred Punk and Gallows went over but that's just me.

The work Shawn is doing is amazing. I've never been a giant Shawn fan but he's sucking me into this story big time.

I also really liked Cena's mic work. I'm a Cena hater but when he's on he can deliver a great promo. His promos for the last few weeks have seemed authentic. He hyped the EC, WM, and the Bret/Vince storyline which is good. The only sour spot was the bait and switch with Ted. The angle could have been done just as effectively without that happening.

Bret's work was... meh. He didn't really seem that into towards the end. I could have done with 3 minutes less of him breaking stuff and had that time added to the Divas or Rhodes/Orton match.


Posted By: Justin (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:50 PM

 
 
wwe rules tna sucks so bad how can u defend your product how do u defend this you r so funny go kiss tna ass more and more. TNA is bad wwe is good now face facts

Posted By: frank (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:51 PM

 
 
For a guy who got the title way too early, rarely main events Raw and hasn't had a single pinfall win over an established name yet, I think Sheamus is doing a good job as champion.

He carries himself well as champion, is better than your average big man in the ring, he's comfortable on the mic and he draws decent heat, do you expect him to be as over as Jericho or Orton? Guys who've been top heels for years?

People bitch and bitch about wanting new stars built then the second they pull the trigger the backlash begins. It's not just Sheamus either, I guarantee when the IWC darling Morrison gets his big push this year, after people begging for it for years, the second he gets the title the negativity will begin, "this guy is a spot monkey and he's fucking terrible on the mic, he should have stayed in the mid card".


Posted By: Guest#9093 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM

 
 
To the TNA supporter Nash vs Foley was terrible. Yes I watched it too. I'm not saying Bret vs. Vince is good but when your a billionaire like Vince I guess you can get away with it. As far as old timers there is a difference, the guys in WWE can still go. TNA guys not so much. I mean Hogan and Flair by the way. You had Orton, Rhodes, Punk, Miz, Christian, and Sheamus on the show I don't consider them old.

Posted By: Jay (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM

 
 
@ Scott

STFU you dont know sh#t about wrestling obviously. Bret made wrestling interesting and realistic so eat a d!ck. and whoever disagree you can eat a d!ck too. LOSER'S

Posted By: hartfan (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:26 PM

Wow guy...you just suck lol.


Posted By: hmm (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:58 PM

 
 
It's too bad Maryse's promo wasn't in English as she ripped into Gail. Although, with Maryse's phony sincerity act, it had to be in French.

As for what she said, Maryse said Gail was garbage, basically less than nothing, and that she actually felt bad for Gail for being so pathetic. It was different from the Piggy James stuff as there was no humor to it at all, it was just insult after insult.


Posted By: Guest#0484 (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:59 PM

 
 
The whole Shawn Michaels breakdown and the Bret-Vince angle is the best stuff going on in wrestling since CM Punk and Jeff Hardy's epic rivalry last year.

Fuck the haters, for once they're wrong and WWE will be proved right when the Wrestlemania buyrate comes in at significantly higher than last year, because they're actually doing a great job in building anticipation for all the big matches.


Posted By: Guest#3098 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:04 AM

 
 
this was one of the best raw in a while....i actually watched the whole thing from beginning to end. the guest host was great he really seemed like he wanted to be there and was a good talker

Posted By: ...... (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:04 AM

 
 
"Vince says he's the supreme alpha male, and when G.od created the heavens and Earth it wasn't Adam he had in mind. It was Vince."

Greatest line in the history of the WWF/E.

EVER

Posted By: Vince = Gold (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:26 PM
--------------------------------------

Here are the knee pads you requested..


Posted By: AlfredJonesHizzuh! (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:05 AM

 
 
solid raw tonight...why all the hate towards the ending...I thought it came off looking really strong

Posted By: xtopnotchx (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:05 AM

 
 
You know, I am fully expecting John Cena to turn green and morph four times larger at this point.

Every week he comes out and takes a few moves from the opponent, no sells, then does one of his limited moves and cuts a promo using the cheesiest crowd pops.

There is no doubt going to be hatred for John Cena when he is crammed down everyone's throats and then expected to be treated like Hercules.

Posted By: Le pitre (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:17 PM

That would be amazing, each week I would tune in just to hear
HULK SMASH!!!!


Posted By: Guest#2800 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:05 AM

 
 
Sort of telling that Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels are the 2 best things about Raw right now. Again.

Posted By: Guest#7243 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:09 AM

 
 
Prospective Wrestlemania Card:

-Vince McMahon vs. Bret Hart
(slobberknocker, with all of one bump)

-World Championship: Christian(c) vs. Edge
(Christian picks up as the "creepy LB" role, which began his launch, and Edge slides into a natural short-term face role, for a feud that we should see extend till Summerslam playing out, before the inevitable Edge heel turn)

-Cena vs. Batista
(Two biggest stars, made in this current era of WWE programming, face off for their first, and with the way Batista is holding up possibly their lasts, big Wrestlemania encounter. A fresh matchup that should be able to draw.)

-Taker vs. HBK 2
(HBK looks to be hellbent on getting his 2nd shot at Taker. HHH has tried to talk him out of it, but he won't hear any of it. HBk does something to force Taker to accept the match, possibly costing taker the title in the EC. Another potential show stealing matchup, which could then act as a bridge into the breakdown of HBK, and a HBK/HHH feud that WWE can carry for the next 5-6 PPVs.)

-Randy Orton vs. Ted DiBiase Jr.
(Jr is seen as the next big potential babyface star for WWE, even though I personally think that Rhodes fits the role better, but that's neither here nor there. Orton is the best pure heel that WWE has, so he's given the task of making DiBiase a star. Rhodes plays some role in the match, and the resultant feud.

-WWE Championship: Sheamus(c) vs. HHH
(Sheamus is HHH's butt buddy, and as anyone could've told you before WWE pulled the trigger on getting the belt on Sheamus, people just aren't buying him as champion. HHH hasn't been on top for a while, and he always finds a way to get on the big stage when the big show comes around.)

-MiTB:
CM Punk[SD], Kofi Kingston[Raw], Yoshitatsu[ECW], McIntyre[SD], Swagger[Raw], R-Truth[Raw], Zac Ryder[ECW], John Morrison[SD]
(big spotfest match, which solidifies Punk's status as a top talent, while beginning the initial major push for a newer guy, morrison of kingston being my first two choices.)

-Miz/Show vs. Jericho/TBA
(JeriShow was the only consistent tag team over this past year in the 'WWE Universe', and this would be bringing closure to that period. Simple as that)

-woman's fluff match
(Hot models in bikinis, with possibly some type of standard food type, possibly even tapioca pudding, or some pillow fight/multi-person tag match. WWE cares too little about their women's wrestling to even consider putting on a legit match.


Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:13 AM

 
 
3 good Raw's in a row by my count, It's been a while since I've been able to say that.

Posted By: Guest#9118 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:13 AM

 
 
For a guy who got the title way too early, rarely main events Raw and hasn't had a single pinfall win over an established name yet, I think Sheamus is doing a good job as champion.

He carries himself well as champion, is better than your average big man in the ring, he's comfortable on the mic and he draws decent heat, do you expect him to be as over as Jericho or Orton? Guys who've been top heels for years?

People bitch and bitch about wanting new stars built then the second they pull the trigger the backlash begins. It's not just Sheamus either, I guarantee when the IWC darling Morrison gets his big push this year, after people begging for it for years, the second he gets the title the negativity will begin, "this guy is a spot monkey and he's fucking terrible on the mic, he should have stayed in the mid card".

Posted By: Guest#9093 (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM

I won't argue with you about the general hypocrisy of the IWC, however, the Sheamus hate strikes me as a little more justified than the usual internet negativity.
Is Sheamus as over as Jericho or Orton? Of course not, he only debuted a few months ago... but that is EXACTLY why Sheamus should not have been given the WWE Title this early in his career. The WWE Title should be reserved ONLY for talents who ARE as over as Orton and Jericho. It's not so much that people hate Sheamus (although he is very bland, IMO), it's moreso that no one wants to see him main-eventing. Trust me, if they had pulled the trigger on Jack Swagger instead (who had a very successful title run on ECW and has been booked to look strong against top-level stars), nobody would be bitching. Anyone disagree?


Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:14 AM

 
 
Am I the only one who doesnt want to see UT vs HBK part 2?
They put o a great match last year and I dont think they need to re-do it.
HHH vs HBK would be a great match and if(or when)HHH wins the RAW EC,that could be the catalyst for HBK to attack HHH.
I would love to see UT get a new victim one he hasnt faced at Mania before.
Bret still is one of all time greats and honestly is doing a fantastic job.lay off the hitman.


Posted By: Melissa (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:16 AM

 
 
VINTAGE HULK.

Posted By: Cole (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:19 AM

 
 
"To the TNA supporter Nash vs Foley was terrible. Yes I watched it too. I'm not saying Bret vs. Vince is good but when your a billionaire like Vince I guess you can get away with it. As far as old timers there is a difference, the guys in WWE can still go. TNA guys not so much. I mean Hogan and Flair by the way. You had Orton, Rhodes, Punk, Miz, Christian, and Sheamus on the show I don't consider them old.

Posted By: Jay (Guest)  on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM"

Hogan and Flair aren't in ring competitors smart guy. Oh sure, they MIGHT pull out Flair vs Sting eventually, but right now Flair is just helping AJ get some personality and a character which has been the main flaw AJ has had.

Christian and Shaemus wrestled a "nothing" match, Punk ate a pinfall to DX, and Dibiase got destroyed by Cena who is supposed to be a face.


Posted By: How do you defend this (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:20 AM

 
 
Gail Kim vs. Jillian Hall
Maryse is on commentary for this one as we have no intros for this at all. Jillian whips Gail into the corner, and then runs into a back elbow. Jillian turns around to pull Gail off the second rope, but Gail reverses a bodyslam into the falling big boot for the win at 0:58. Should have just cut the whole segment if that was all they were getting. Afterward Maryse congratulates Gail, and says she wants to have the best match of her life with her. Maryse cuts a promo in French, and wishes her good luck before shaking hands saying "may the best diva win." Whatever.

^well McNew, YOU should have just not bothered to comment seeing as it's so obvious it doesn't matter what the women do.. you will crap all over it.
Jeeze


Posted By: Nicole (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:22 AM

 
 
Prospective Wrestlemania Card:

-Vince McMahon vs. Bret Hart
(slobberknocker, with all of one bump)

-World Championship: Christian(c) vs. Edge
(Christian picks up as the "creepy LB" role, which began his launch, and Edge slides into a natural short-term face role, for a feud that we should see extend till Summerslam playing out, before the inevitable Edge heel turn)

-Cena vs. Batista
(Two biggest stars, made in this current era of WWE programming, face off for their first, and with the way Batista is holding up possibly their lasts, big Wrestlemania encounter. A fresh matchup that should be able to draw.)

-Taker vs. HBK 2
(HBK looks to be hellbent on getting his 2nd shot at Taker. HHH has tried to talk him out of it, but he won't hear any of it. HBk does something to force Taker to accept the match, possibly costing taker the title in the EC. Another potential show stealing matchup, which could then act as a bridge into the breakdown of HBK, and a HBK/HHH feud that WWE can carry for the next 5-6 PPVs.)

-Randy Orton vs. Ted DiBiase Jr.
(Jr is seen as the next big potential babyface star for WWE, even though I personally think that Rhodes fits the role better, but that's neither here nor there. Orton is the best pure heel that WWE has, so he's given the task of making DiBiase a star. Rhodes plays some role in the match, and the resultant feud.

-WWE Championship: Sheamus(c) vs. HHH
(Sheamus is HHH's butt buddy, and as anyone could've told you before WWE pulled the trigger on getting the belt on Sheamus, people just aren't buying him as champion. HHH hasn't been on top for a while, and he always finds a way to get on the big stage when the big show comes around.)

-MiTB:
CM Punk[SD], Kofi Kingston[Raw], Yoshitatsu[ECW], McIntyre[SD], Swagger[Raw], R-Truth[Raw], Zac Ryder[ECW], John Morrison[SD]
(big spotfest match, which solidifies Punk's status as a top talent, while beginning the initial major push for a newer guy, morrison of kingston being my first two choices.)

-Miz/Show vs. Jericho/TBA
(JeriShow was the only consistent tag team over this past year in the 'WWE Universe', and this would be bringing closure to that period. Simple as that)

-woman's fluff match
(Hot models in bikinis, with possibly some type of standard food type, possibly even tapioca pudding, or some pillow fight/multi-person tag match. WWE cares too little about their women's wrestling to even consider putting on a legit match.

Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:13 AM

How exactly are you going to get the title from UT to Christian between now and WM?


Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:23 AM

 
 
To the TNA supporter Nash vs Foley was terrible. Yes I watched it too. I'm not saying Bret vs. Vince is good but when your a billionaire like Vince I guess you can get away with it. As far as old timers there is a difference, the guys in WWE can still go. TNA guys not so much. I mean Hogan and Flair by the way. You had Orton, Rhodes, Punk, Miz, Christian, and Sheamus on the show I don't consider them old.

Posted By: Jay (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Yes nash and foley was terrible but its not going to be a WM match for goodness sakes unlike a match with a stroke survivor and a 60 year old man. Thats why people laugh at wwe supporters when they cried about one freaking match.


Posted By: Guest#7183 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:26 AM

 
 
"No matter how hard they try no one is buying this goof's title reign."

I'd really appreciate it you'd stop thinking you're the voice of the people. You don't get to speak for everyone.


Posted By: Tom Talker (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:37 AM

 
 
How can people compare WWE's veterans with TNA's?

HHH, HBK, Jericho and Taker can all still go in the ring and draw. Plus they're all nearer to 40 rather than 50 or even 60 like Nash, Hall, Hogan, Foley, Flair, Sting, Nasty Boys. Angle is the only one who has anything left to offer.

And WWE has Cena, Orton, Punk, Edge and Hardy before he screwed them over, all younger guys who are legitimate stars they created THEMSELVES, who does TNA have even close to that level?


Posted By: Guest#1394 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:56 AM

 
 
"Shawn says his career is over,"

Waah waaah waaaah, cry me a river, bitch.


Posted By: hate crybabies (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:58 AM

 
 
"Cody gets the jobber entrance as if we didn't already know the outcome."

Apparently you didn't, huh, smartass?


Posted By: Guest#0076 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:00 AM

 
 
Wow, finally a really solid Raw with minimal parts to fast forward thru. The only part that I thought was truly bad was Brett's appearance & destruction tantrum. They couldve probably saved him for next week. Also with so many storylines weaving together, it's pretty safe to pass on this PPV & just get WM.

I mean it looks like Cena & hHh for sure won't win EC, and I'm sure Kofi & Ted will just go to MiTB. So either Orton wins, or Shemus retains. Who knows, but it's still a fun Road To WM this year (other than VKM vs Bret)


Posted By: Byzdalmyt (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:02 AM

 
 
""No matter how hard they try no one is buying this goof's title reign."

I'd really appreciate it you'd stop thinking you're the voice of the people. You don't get to speak for everyone.

Posted By: Tom Talker (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:37 AM"

Seconded. Personally I'm BUYING "this goof's" title reign. What I'm not buying though is idiot IWC douches who think their insignificant little opinions are somehow representative for other wrestling fans.


Posted By: Guest#4521 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:07 AM

 
 
Yes nash and foley was terrible but its not going to be a WM match for goodness sakes unlike a match with a stroke survivor and a 60 year old man. Thats why people laugh at wwe supporters when they cried about one freaking match.

Yeah, it's lame how they announce Vince vs Bret in Wrestlemania even though No Way Out hasn't even out of the way yet, right? Whooops.


Posted By: Guest#1280 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:11 AM

 
 
Bugger all you titty-babies whining about Sheamus. His pasty goodness shines like a beacon.

Posted By: Jwalk (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:22 AM

 
 
Bret Hart looks like one of those old farts trying to relive the past. Ted Dibiase in the hall of fame is a joke. They will both be playing second fiddle to me at Wrestlemania.

Posted By: Paul Roma's Dong (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:26 AM

 
 
Wow! With some of these comments, I'm Glad that the WWE doesn't cater to the IWC!

As for tna?
Not interested before. Now? Nash, Hogan, Flair, Bischoff, Russo, A bunch of washed up /Drugged out former WWE stars............Still not interested.


Posted By: Tony Forever (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:29 AM

 
 
Kind of now enjoying that episode. There were good parts, like HBK and Cena's promo; but mostly it was uninteresting.

The wrestling wasn't great, and the opening match was pretty cold for a couple of reasons not relating to in-ring performance.

It's a shame that Bret can't do too much anymore. Is there someway they could have an effective brawl instead of wrestling? Can Bret bleed still?

I actually like Sheamus, but I find it bizarre that he's in the position he's in.


Posted By: KSutton (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:36 AM

 
 
I see next week, in matches. Orton will give Rhodes one more chance. Orton beats Shamus with Rhodes interference and then they get rid of Dibiase as he turns good. With Kofi as his new tag partner, then they will win tag straps from Miz/Show.

Posted By: Dumb Idiots (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 01:48 AM

 
 
They may seem flip-floppy, but bear with me for a moment:

I appreciate some commentary in 'show reports', but your opinions really seem so negative and you seem to just sound like a 'know-it-all' and then minutes later when you are proven wrong, you make no mention of previous statements...Call it like you see it, not I am right and everything I don't like is terrible and a waste of time.


Posted By: WaTRYYYy (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 02:02 AM

 
 
Would it have KILLED them to give the titles to Punk & Gallows?

Also, HBK vs. HHH vs. Taker for Wrestlemania looks pretty obvious at this point. Here's how the match will play out:

- Trips will try to steal HBK's thunder by attempting to pin Taker several times throughout the match.

- Michaels and HHH get sidetracked with their bickering (allowing Taker to rest most of the match).

- It all ends with Taker pinning HHH, thus retaining his streak and setting up HBK vs. Taker at Backlash (where HBK FINALLY wins).


Posted By: Highscore Kid (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 02:45 AM

 
 
"Vince says he's the supreme alpha male, and when G.od created the heavens and Earth it wasn't Adam he had in mind. It was Vince."

Greatest line in the history of the WWF/E.

EVER

Posted By: Vince = Gold (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:26 PM

Not even close to the best line of the night.

"Bring me Jared from Subway"
-CM Punk


Posted By: BS (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:11 AM

 
 
So 30 minutes of wrestling in a 2 hour show?

Posted By: Obvious (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:14 AM

 
 
Great RAW tonight. Very good story lines as we creep towards Mania. Lovin' the HBK angle and possibilities there. It's great that after all these years Michaels has some fresh story lines.

Posted By: Beeker (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:20 AM

 
 
Dibiase's induction is waaaay over due. But better late than never. I grew-up watching him. Great mic skills, great in the ring, all around awesome.

Posted By: Sam (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:23 AM

 
 
Hope Punk is gonna get the WHW title once Taker is done with whatever in WM&Backlash. Instead of wrestling with midcard forever. >_>

Miz-Show sounds like Miss Ho, so I prefer Show-Miz. =p


Posted By: Mehlol (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:28 AM

 
 
is it just me or is shawn going to be a last min entry to money in the bank ladder match then cash in on taker after his match at WM

Posted By: dannyboy73 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:39 AM

 
 
How about this? Hunter wins the Elimination Chamber on the Raw side while Jericho wins the blue one. Edge chooses Jericho as his opponent while Undertaker is left unable to cash in his rematch clause. He makes a deal with what ever media whore is hosting Raw one particular week and gets himself a match with HHH at 'Mania. If this is not enough to make you yawn in anticipation, Shawn weasels his way into the match making it a triple-threat for the title. Shawn really snaps and gives up the win to Taker via DQ, allowing HHH to keep the strap while Taker keeps his streak and his "dominance" (I mean, how dominate can a cripple really be? and we have two of them in this match) I know that triple-threats don't normally end in DQ but in wrestling the rules just make themselves when the situation calls for it.

I also know that it does not make a lot of sense but Taker really has no other program going into Wrestlemania, assuming he loses at EC, and he needs to make an appearance to keep his streak legitimate. Nobody wants this less than I do but that is usually all the incentive that WWE needs to do some of the wacky things they do. Maybe Undertaker will make his way into the Money in the Bank, another thought of mine that does not need to happen.


Posted By: Squid Vicious (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:03 AM

 
 
Don't understand the negativity towards THE HITMAN frickin IWC awesome show WrestleMania is gonna be amazing this year!!

Posted By: Sal (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:08 AM

 
 
People are bitching about Cena, but really, if he was doing exactly what he's been doing for years now-- except as a heel-- he would be AWESOME. And then everyone would cheer for what a badass he was, and they would have to turn him face again.

"The five dollars for one foot."

Oh, and I thought Gail was going to start talking in Korean to Marsye to basically say "bitch, please" so she didn't come off looking like a schmuck. But alas..


Posted By: chris r (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:12 AM

 
 
So was Carl Edwards just a one shot deal?

Posted By: RVD (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:30 AM

 
 
Good show overall but the opening has to be one of the worst in Raw's history. Hornswoggle followed by the most horrible annoying whiney voice I've ever heard when Kelly Kelly was doing Carl Edwards introduction. It sounded like somebody scraping a fork along a plate. If she'd done the rest of the annoucing I would have definitely switched off. Please keep her away from the mic in future, and in fact keep her off the TV as she's bland and boring and the least sexy diva by miles.

Posted By: Axe (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 05:18 AM

 
 
"- It all ends with Taker pinning HHH, thus retaining his streak and setting up HBK vs. Taker at Backlash (where HBK FINALLY wins).

Posted By: Highscore Kid (Guest)  "

I believe HBK turned down a match with Taker on RAW last month because it wasn't about just beating him, it was all about doing it at Wrestlemania to end the streak. By that promo, he would have no interest in facing him anywhere else but WM.


Posted By: Byzdalmyt (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 06:48 AM

 
 
If one more idiot fantasy books Sheamus in a Wrestlemania Main Event, Im going to understand why Hornswaggle appears every week (hint: it is for people like you, that are so easily entertained and gullible)

Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 06:56 AM

 
 
Gotta be said...best RAW in quite sometime. And good for them finding a guest host who actually knows the product and looks like he belongs. Couple all of that with the Saints victory as a lead in...quite a show.

Posted By: Bobby (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 07:12 AM

 
 
"He carries himself well as champion, is better than your average big man in the ring, he's comfortable on the mic and he draws decent heat, do you expect him to be as over as Jericho or Orton? Guys who've been top heels for years?

People bitch and bitch about wanting new stars built then the second they pull the trigger the backlash begins. It's not just Sheamus either, I guarantee when the IWC darling Morrison gets his big push this year, after people begging for it for years, the second he gets the title the negativity will begin, "this guy is a spot monkey and he's fucking terrible on the mic, he should have stayed in the mid card".

Posted By: Guest#9093 (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM"

SPOT ON


Posted By: Sheamus >>> IWC Bitching (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 08:20 AM

 
 
"Hogan and Flair aren't in ring competitors smart guy. Oh sure, they MIGHT pull out Flair vs Sting eventually, but right now Flair is just helping AJ get some personality and a character which has been the main flaw AJ has had.

Christian and Shaemus wrestled a "nothing" match, Punk ate a pinfall to DX, and Dibiase got destroyed by Cena who is supposed to be a face.

Posted By: How do you defend this (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:20 AM"

RAW is still ONE BILLION TIMES BETTER than The FASTY BOYS, Hogan,Bischoff, Hall, and the pure pile of shit known as Foley vs Nash.

Oh and the WWE has real production values and does not play in bingo halls with the same small crowd nobody gives a f... about is not cutting any single match every TWO MINUTES for FIVE GOOD MINUTES OF ADS.

Total Non Stop Ads would fill the embarassement known as TNA better.

WWE >>> TNA

Eat it smark


Posted By: RAW >>> Impact (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 08:26 AM

 
 
.....I'm still waiting for Jared from Subway!

Posted By: CM Punk (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 08:27 AM

 
 
Dang, Punk really needed to win those belts, or else he'd never get on Ra. . .

Posted By: OH (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 08:38 AM

 
 
I'm looking forward to seeing the "security guards" that accompanied Vince to the ring debut as the next batch of Superstars on NXT in a couple of weeks...

Posted By: P.T. (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 08:45 AM

 
 
Its the best time of the year for wrestling fans. WrestleMania is upon us and RAW was GREAT tonight.

Posted By: Guest#5509 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:10 AM

 
 
Sheamus just needs to write a column making fun of the IWC and then suddenly everybody would love him, just like for JBL, who was the worst champion ever.

Sheamus is light years ahead of JBL and is doing a fine job. He actually wrestles very well for a big man, and his promo work is fine. He just needs a few big wins and then people will buy him as legit. Unfortunately guys like Christian and Bourne really don't mean much, Sheamus just needs a few main event wins over guys like HHH, HBK, Cena, etc. At some point HHH probably will put him over, and that's when he'll "arrive" as a top level star. Sheamus isn't my favorite wrestler or anything and never will be, but at least he's younger than the average WWE main eventer. I like Christian a lot but he's just not main event material. He is a good wrestler, a good promo guy and has a good entrance theme, but his ring gear looks crappy and he just doesn't have the "look" to be a top draw.


Posted By: Guest#6868 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:22 AM

 
 
Trust me, if they had pulled the trigger on Jack Swagger instead (who had a very successful title run on ECW and has been booked to look strong against top-level stars), nobody would be bitching. Anyone disagree?

Posted By: Tom (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:14 AM

I disagree, baby manilla gorilla should not be WWE champ...ever! Matter of fact, nobody with a lisp should be world champ. Fuck Dusty Rhodes.


Posted By: Guest#2549 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:36 AM

 
 
Again Maryse steals the show. Ooh la la!

Posted By: Mr. America (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:48 AM

 
 
I never thought It could get any worse after 1997-1998 but it does, Shawn Michaels continues to age backwards. He is acting like a 12 year old.

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:49 AM

 
 
Based on Batista's recent behavior, would it be outside the realm of possiblity for Cena vs Batista to be for the WWE title? Cena wins the title at EC, and Batista announces that Vince promised him a shot at whatever Champion he wants at Wrestlemania in exchange for him helping to embarrass Bret Hart, and he chooses Cena...It would make having him walking out on his EC qualifying match make more sense.

Posted By: D$ (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:54 AM

 
 
As I said before WWE older guys can still go, TNA guys cannot. Those same guys could barely go when they were in WCW 10 years ago. And people complain about the young guys losing, then why did TNA end with Hall and X-Pac standing tall? What is that WCW in 1996? I bet anything Hogan and Flair wrestle again. WWE is at least pushing young guys too. Sheamus is champion and so is Christian. Who said Bret and Vince would headline Wrestlemania anyway?

Posted By: Jay (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:54 AM

 
 
The only way John Cena is getting internet love is the same way internet marks get internet love. 9 dollars for the first minute and 3 dollars for each additional minute...

Posted By: Smarky mark (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 10:00 AM

 
 
'No matter how hard they try no one is buying this goof's title reign.'

What show were you watching? Sheamus is doing just fine and the crowd are getting more and more into it every week.


Posted By: Cun\' (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 10:10 AM

 
 
I loved the Sheamus/Christian match. Much better than the tag 3 way.

Posted By: matrix1004 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 10:15 AM

 
 
Same shit different year I guess.

HBK is once again the focus (why) going into Wm. Last year he was broke or flipping burgers or working for JBL or selling his wifes ass for cash or whatever.

This year he is suposedly haivng a breakdown. Totally unreal.

Also on a REAL LIFE topic. How can he claim to be some born again Cristian and then sit there and watch Vince Mcmahon continually piss all over God and Chritianity? Last night was just another in a long list of blasphemus things he does. Sure you can write it off as a joke or entertainment but that's the point.

I am no Catholic, but watching him wash his hands in face in a baptismal was bad enough. Then the stuff he was sayting in there was pretty pathetic. And there have been numerous referneces of his deity etc. So Shawn Michaels is either a total sell out or just a pretend Christian. Or a little of both.

And before you get all up in arms about 'he is acting'. People with true morals, values and standards dont do things against those morals, values or standards even if it does get them paid. that is the very definition of having morailty and values.

But I digress. the show was passable, as most are simply because they have WM coming up and a straight line to follow. So you really cant screw that up.

They even took my advice and got the belts out of DXs hands so that now they should be able to have some sort of tag team match with some meaning.

But I really dont know why they used the Miz, who they have taken so much time to try and establish as a solo contender and give him another tag team belt. Unless it is a swerve somewhere and he gets hurt and Big Show gets to replace him with anyone and he obviously chooses Jericho. But that seems like a lot of work for a not so big pay off. And now Miz has 3 belts? really? (no pun intended0. Has anyone with less talent and medicre mic skills (and that is being generous) gotten so much so fast? Punk wrestles circles around this guy, and is much better on the mic and he was a flash in the pan. Miz's run is already longer than anything Punk got last year. Unless like I said Miz gets a kayfabe injury and disappears for awhile.

But once again its no surprise that WWE gives the matches away before the PPV. By having all 6 guys face off. Sure you get 30 second squash matches or DQs generally in them. But that is the point why even waste the time to put them on?

As far as bret Hart goes. Sad really. Sure he looks "good" but simply by comparison, meaning that a 50 year old guy with a stroke is still a better performer than 95% of the WWE roster, and peopel wonder why ratings suck.

Vince never should have brought him back because it is highlighting how horrid his product is now. but then again most RAW watchers dont have enough brain power to see it.


Posted By: Rich (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:17 AM

 
 
How about this? Hunter wins the Elimination Chamber on the Raw side while Jericho wins the blue one. Edge chooses Jericho as his opponent while Undertaker is left unable to cash in his rematch clause. He makes a deal with what ever media whore is hosting Raw one particular week and gets himself a match with HHH at 'Mania. If this is not enough to make you yawn in anticipation, Shawn weasels his way into the match making it a triple-threat for the title. Shawn really snaps and gives up the win to Taker via DQ, allowing HHH to keep the strap while Taker keeps his streak and his "dominance" (I mean, how dominate can a cripple really be? and we have two of them in this match) I know that triple-threats don't normally end in DQ but in wrestling the rules just make themselves when the situation calls for it.

I also know that it does not make a lot of sense but Taker really has no other program going into Wrestlemania, assuming he loses at EC, and he needs to make an appearance to keep his streak legitimate. Nobody wants this less than I do but that is usually all the incentive that WWE needs to do some of the wacky things they do. Maybe Undertaker will make his way into the Money in the Bank, another thought of mine that does not need to happen.

Posted By: Squid Vicious (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 04:03 AM

That sounds awful and will never happen. There's a reason why idiot fags like you aren't employed as wrestling bookers.


Posted By: Guest#1035 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 11:22 AM

 
 
That is exactly why Shaemus' reign has floundered... You're supposed to rack up wins BEFORE you win the belt, not AFTER.

And besides Cena one time, and Orton with interference, Shaemus has exactly NO wins over top stars.

Sorry, Goldust.


Posted By: Ironic (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:13 PM

 
 
"- It all ends with Taker pinning HHH, thus retaining his streak and setting up HBK vs. Taker at Backlash (where HBK FINALLY wins)."

He won during the first Hell In The Cell and he's got a win over Taker at the Royal Rumble casket match where Taker nearly broke his back. The story is he wants to beat him at Wrestlemania so a title match at Backlash is relatively meaningless.


Posted By: Mark Radulich (Registered)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:16 PM

 
 
why does punk want to recruit jared? doesn't he know he has aides?!

Posted By: DaJ (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:52 PM

 
 
"This really didn't come off very well, as for whatever reason Bret just didn't seem that into it."

I remember an interview Bret gave (or it might have been his column) where he talked about an angle where he drove off after Goldberg at the end of a show. He almost lost control of the car and said he was thinking something to the effect of this was almost just like Owen.

Bret was uncomfortable because he was doing a non-wrestling stunt (busting up the joint and making sparks).

Bret's just too old school to make fire and pretty sparks.


Posted By: That Guy (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 12:55 PM

 
 
Quote of the year: "Go get me Jared from Subway!"

Posted By: Tolkoto (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 02:20 PM

 
 
Yeah, it's lame how they announce Vince vs Bret in Wrestlemania even though No Way Out hasn't even out of the way yet, right? Whooops.

Posted By: Guest#1280 (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 01:11 AM


This is where you need to pay attention to the show you are trying to put down, the last thing Vince said was NO he changed his mind and wouldnt fight Bret at wrestlemania thus what brought Bret Hart's tantrum on! So, no maches have been made for Wrestlemania yet before Eleimiantion Chamber PPV. BTW I do believe Hulk Hogan V Rock was booked before NO WAY OUT, though I might be wrong.


Posted By: JIVE (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:52 PM

 
 
McNew, do you call the RKO the diamond cutter? No. Sheamus is the WWE champ ffs give him the credit of calling his move it's name.

Posted By: Guest#8058 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 03:56 PM

 
 
Carl Edwards was a way better host than those other two NASCAR clowns. Actually seemed interested to be there and held my attention.

Bland matches, but more building to storylines. Sheamus couldn't draw if he went into the ring with a pencil and a sheet of paper.

The end seemed off, as Bret seemed apathetic when destorying equipment. Let's hope the WM match is a little better.

Pretty funny that Cena's character says Vince is all about money and that he tries to come off like a blue-collar underdog when in interviews he tows the corporate line and is an actor under their banner.

Also kinda sucks that they'd job both Christian when he gets back on Raw and CM Punk to DX.

On the bright side, Shawn's heel turn is still coming along really well.


Posted By: lilwayne1 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:07 PM

 
 
I'm sure someone else out there has suggested this, but, hey, if not, why not share it?

Triple threat at Mania, HBK vs HHH vs Taker, HBK wins, but by pinning HHH. Undertaker has lost, but not truly which leads to --> Year long feud between HBK and Taker leading to the next Mania with X result.

But, modern 'E and long term booking? Ehh...


Posted By: Servus (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:07 PM

 
 
2 things:

I think it's going to be HHH-HBK-Taker, so Taker can win without beating Michaels twice and HHH-HBK at Backlash

and long live "Hall of Famer Million dollars man" Ted Dibiaise


Posted By: Daffo (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:16 PM

 
 
"He carries himself well as champion, is better than your average big man in the ring, he's comfortable on the mic and he draws decent heat, do you expect him to be as over as Jericho or Orton? Guys who've been top heels for years?

People bitch and bitch about wanting new stars built then the second they pull the trigger the backlash begins. It's not just Sheamus either, I guarantee when the IWC darling Morrison gets his big push this year, after people begging for it for years, the second he gets the title the negativity will begin, "this guy is a spot monkey and he's fucking terrible on the mic, he should have stayed in the mid card".

Posted By: Guest#9093 (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM"

SPOT ON


Posted By: Sheamus >>> IWC Bitching (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 08:20 AM

Agreed 100%. Sheamus is still a more credible champ than AJ Styles although the IWC doesn't want to admit it.

I used to like Morrison but he really sucks on the mic and is a spot monkey. The Miz is so much better all around.


Posted By: Tbone3771 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:18 PM

 
 
The show was fine, but I was really disappointed by the booking decisions. Seamus cleanly beating Christian? In trying to make Seamus a credible heel and champion, they instead screwed over the ECW champion. And when Seamus won, it was like life itself was sucked out of the room; he got "disappointment" heat, which I'm sure was not what they were going for. People still don't buy Seamus as a top-level heel or as champion, but now they've managed to make ECW even MORE bush-league, which I thought at this point was impossible (I mean, they are already ending the whole show in 2 weeks, for God's sake). I guess it is true that the 'E just doesn't see Christian as a main eventer, no matter what he does.

The other was making Miz-Show tag champs. Nothing against them per se, but why them over The Straight Edge Society? Miz is U.S. champion, and Big Show is a main event-level heel. It's like they gave it to them because they just couldn't find anything interesting to do with the Big Show. Again, I think that they'll be good, and the titles HAD to come off DX, but I would have rather seen CM Punk as champion. Can you imagine, one of the best heels and talkers, now again a champion, and now able to travel through all the shows with his faction? It's like CM Punk continues to be a great, entertaining heel that the crowd loves to hate IN SPITE of all the efforts done by management to undermine him.

Posted By: Joey9922 (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:37 PM

I like Christian alot and have for awhile but he just isn't a main-eventer. Although, maybe he would be if he were heel again (like in TNA with Styles and Tomko). But the talent pool in the E is deeper and I can't see him getting the main event spots over guys like Edge, Jericho, Orton, Batista, etc.

Also, I agree on Punk and the Straight Edge Society. It's a great angle and stable. I'm not too disappointed though because Mizanin has really come into his own the past few months. I do think Punk and Gallows will end up with the tag belts at some point though, maybe even before 'Mania.


Posted By: Tbone3771 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:26 PM

 
 
It seems to me that Christian has the unique ability to wrestle anybody, and have a good match. He's a lot more believable than 3/4 of the roster, and here's hoping that he gets an even bigger push in the near future......he deserves it.....

Posted By: Outback Mac (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 04:28 PM

 
 
Maryse sucks. Too many virgins around here.

Posted By: Guest#1645 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 05:17 PM

 
 
Prospective Wrestlemania Card:

-Vince McMahon vs. Bret Hart
(slobberknocker, with all of one bump)

-World Championship: Christian(c) vs. Edge
(Christian picks up as the "creepy LB" role, which began his launch, and Edge slides into a natural short-term face role, for a feud that we should see extend till Summerslam playing out, before the inevitable Edge heel turn)

-Cena vs. Batista
(Two biggest stars, made in this current era of WWE programming, face off for their first, and with the way Batista is holding up possibly their lasts, big Wrestlemania encounter. A fresh matchup that should be able to draw.)

-Taker vs. HBK 2
(HBK looks to be hellbent on getting his 2nd shot at Taker. HHH has tried to talk him out of it, but he won't hear any of it. HBk does something to force Taker to accept the match, possibly costing taker the title in the EC. Another potential show stealing matchup, which could then act as a bridge into the breakdown of HBK, and a HBK/HHH feud that WWE can carry for the next 5-6 PPVs.)

-Randy Orton vs. Ted DiBiase Jr.
(Jr is seen as the next big potential babyface star for WWE, even though I personally think that Rhodes fits the role better, but that's neither here nor there. Orton is the best pure heel that WWE has, so he's given the task of making DiBiase a star. Rhodes plays some role in the match, and the resultant feud.

-WWE Championship: Sheamus(c) vs. HHH
(Sheamus is HHH's butt buddy, and as anyone could've told you before WWE pulled the trigger on getting the belt on Sheamus, people just aren't buying him as champion. HHH hasn't been on top for a while, and he always finds a way to get on the big stage when the big show comes around.)

-MiTB:
CM Punk[SD], Kofi Kingston[Raw], Yoshitatsu[ECW], McIntyre[SD], Swagger[Raw], R-Truth[Raw], Zac Ryder[ECW], John Morrison[SD]
(big spotfest match, which solidifies Punk's status as a top talent, while beginning the initial major push for a newer guy, morrison of kingston being my first two choices.)

-Miz/Show vs. Jericho/TBA
(JeriShow was the only consistent tag team over this past year in the 'WWE Universe', and this would be bringing closure to that period. Simple as that)

-woman's fluff match
(Hot models in bikinis, with possibly some type of standard food type, possibly even tapioca pudding, or some pillow fight/multi-person tag match. WWE cares too little about their women's wrestling to even consider putting on a legit match.

Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:13 AM

How exactly are you going to get the title from UT to Christian between now and WM?

Posted By: Tom (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Easy. The Current SD EC match has 4 faces/2 heels. Christian swoops a babyface spot, during the show, and turns to steal the belt, HBK assist even.


Posted By: scipio2009 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 05:26 PM

 
 
Having a competitive match with the WWE Champion isn't a burial you fags.

Posted By: Foolio (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 07:17 PM

 
 
Um, you guys do realize Sheamus is the boring, pale, red-haired guy with the belt, right? He sucks. You know what's worse than getting X-Pac heat? Getting no heat, a feeling Sheamus must be very familiar with right now. Those of you saying he's improving or a good champ or whatever must have your heads up your asses.

Posted By: Zingy (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 07:53 PM

 
 
Give Bret Hart a break. He rose up out of a wheelchair to do this after all.

Posted By: Scarry Larry (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 08:54 PM

 
 
"Um, you guys do realize Sheamus is the boring, pale, red-haired guy with the belt, right? He sucks. You know what's worse than getting X-Pac heat? Getting no heat, a feeling Sheamus must be very familiar with right now. Those of you saying he's improving or a good champ or whatever must have your heads up your asses."

It's a good thing you're around to tell us what to think, Zingy. Far be it from me to suggest that Sheamus is generating heat for himself at a good pace. I thought I might let what I saw on tv influence me, but it's a good thing you're around to put a stop to that.


Posted By: Anonymous (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:08 PM

 
 
I actually wanna watch Raw.Sounds good.Though the WWE is crap, come the time for it they sure do know how to come up with good simple stories and know how to tell them something I admit TNA needs to work on.But I'm not surprised, it's WrestleMania season.If they don't hit it out of the park come WrestleMania season, then all hope is lost.This time of the year is the only thing I have left of what I grew up strictly watching and that's the WWE.If I lose this then I will lose everything I ever knew about wrestling.Even if I do cross over strictly to TNA I will lose everything and will only have memories to live off of and that's not what I want so long live WW...Long live WrestleMania season.

Posted By: Teddy (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:19 PM

 
 
i have kinda enjoyed sheamus's run as champ...its been sumthin different and hes held his own quiet well...but he shud prolly drop the title to someone at the elimination chamber...maybs HHH..lol

Posted By: Guest#6321 (Guest)  on February 09, 2010 at 09:26 PM

 
 
That is exactly why Shaemus' reign has floundered... You're supposed to rack up wins BEFORE you win the belt, not AFTER.

And besides Cena one time, and Orton with interference, Shaemus has exactly NO wins over top stars.

Sorry, Goldust.

Posted By: Ironic (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 12:13 PM


THANK YOU, this is exactly why Sheamus is not over. He's booked incredibly weak against top stars.

The fact that management didn't have enough confidence in him to even put him over Orton (even by overbooking) at the royal rumble says something.

Besides that lame ass win against cena in the tables match. He's had NO wins over top stars.


On another note, I'm glad Rob McNew is not blinded like some of the members on this site are, as to how Sheamus is NOT over enough to deserve the belt. At least not yet.


Posted By: mp (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 02:39 AM

 
 
"Maryse sucks. Too many virgins around here."

The staff at the mental hospital really need to stop letting these people have computer access.


Posted By: Guest#4269 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 04:16 AM

 
 
Cody gets the jobber entrance as if we didn't already know the outcome.
================================
Whoops.


Posted By: Hoodoo91 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 06:20 AM

 
 
"Maryse sucks. Too many virgins around here."

No, you're just an idiot.


Posted By: Guest#2038 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 12:16 PM

 
 
Based on Batista's recent behavior, would it be outside the realm of possiblity for Cena vs Batista to be for the WWE title? Cena wins the title at EC, and Batista announces that Vince promised him a shot at whatever Champion he wants at Wrestlemania in exchange for him helping to embarrass Bret Hart, and he chooses Cena...It would make having him walking out on his EC qualifying match make more sense.

Posted By: D$ (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 09:54 AM

THIS.


Posted By: Guest#9571 (Guest)  on February 10, 2010 at 05:17 PM

 
 
"He carries himself well as champion, is better than your average big man in the ring, he's comfortable on the mic and he draws decent heat, do you expect him to be as over as Jericho or Orton? Guys who've been top heels for years?

People bitch and bitch about wanting new stars built then the second they pull the trigger the backlash begins. It's not just Sheamus either, I guarantee when the IWC darling Morrison gets his big push this year, after people begging for it for years, the second he gets the title the negativity will begin, "this guy is a spot monkey and he's fucking terrible on the mic, he should have stayed in the mid card".

Posted By: Guest#9093 (Guest) on February 08, 2010 at 11:54 PM"

SPOT ON


Posted By: Sheamus >>> IWC Bitching (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 08:20 AM

Agreed 100%. Sheamus is still a more credible champ than AJ Styles although the IWC doesn't want to admit it.

I used to like Morrison but he really sucks on the mic and is a spot monkey. The Miz is so much better all around.

Posted By: Tbone3771 (Guest) on February 09, 2010 at 04:18 PM

NEWSFLASH:
You are also part of the IWC, retards.


Posted By: Magnum TOKYO, JP (Guest)  on February 11, 2010 at 07:15 PM

 


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