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411's WWE Raw 12.17.07
Posted by Larry Csonka on 12.17.2007







RAW…BACK IN THE DAY


  • TEN YEARS AGO… 12.15.97
    -Light-Heavyweight Champion, Taka Michinoku defeated Jerry Lawler by Disqualification
    -Dude Love and Jesse James fought to a No Contest
    -New Age Outlaws were named
    -Mark Henry defeated The Brooklyn Brawler
    -Tom Brandi pinned The Sultan
    -Steve Blackman pinned Miguel Perez
    -The Legion of Doom defeated World Heavyweight Champion Shawn Michaels and Hunter Hearst Helmsley by Disqualification

  • FIVE YEARS AGO… 12.16.02
    -Trish Stratus and Test defeated Steven Richards and Victoria
    -Christopher Nowinski defeated Maven
    -Christian defeated Goldust
    -Rob Van Dam and Kane defeated Batista, Rosie, and Jamal
    -Lance Storm and William Regal defeated The Dudley Boyz
    -Jeff Hardy defeated D'Lo Brown
    -Booker T. defeated Chris Jericho

  • ONE YEAR AGO… 12.18.06
    -Edge won a Battle Royal to earn a title shot
    -Johnny Nitro and TWGTT defeated the Hardyz
    -Kenny Dykstra defeated Ric Flair
    -WWE TITLE MATCH: John Cena defeated Edge
    -Victoria defeated Mickie James
    -John Cena and DX defeated Umaga and Rated RKO





  • WWE RAW 12.17.07


    -We get highlights of Steph's warning to Vince, and then the Raw 15th where Vince got beat down.

    -JR welcomes us to the show and hypes last week's ratings bonanza! Hardy and HBK will face Orton and Kennedy. Also, Ric Flair will face Umaga.

    SANTA'S LITTLE HELPER MATCH: Melina, Jillian, Layla and Victoria vs. Mickie James, Kelly Kelly, Michelle McCool and Maria

    Jillian wants to sing a song from her album. She does and even Melina covers her ears. Jillian and Maria to begin, they exchange actual holds in their outfits and Maria gets a roll up for 2. Kelly in and a cover on Jillian gets 2. To the corner, and Layla in and they double clothesline Kelly for 2. Kelly gets a sunset flip on Layla for 2. Tag to McCool and she chops Layla, Melina tags in and McCool hip tosses her and gets mounted rights. Victoria gets a boot to McCool as she hits the ropes and Melina fucks up getting her into the tree of woe. Victoria and Melina double-team her, and then Victoria misses a moonsault. McCool gets an Enziguri and tags Mickie. Mickie has Christmas chaps on and cleans house. Leg scissors and a neck breaker to Victoria gets 2. PRIMAL DDT Plants Victoria and that is all.

    Winners: Mickie James, Kelly Kelly, Michelle McCool and Maria @ 3:45 via pin
  • Even with the gimmick is was actually a fun little match. No complaints other than the one blown tree of woe spot.
    Rating: *½

    -After the match the faces beat down the heel chicks and now a disenchanted Mr. McMahon makes his way to the ring. Last week he was going to celebrate the 15th Anniversary of Raw. Instead he was beaten and humiliated. He laid there and was covered in beer and every star, diva, ref and announcer celebrated. He's offended that we enjoyed his anguish. He isn't an animal or monster and doesn't understand why. His feeling have been hurt, and his heart broken. He is a human being.

    As he looks sad, Jeff Hardy makes his way to the ring. Jeff stares down Vince, and says next week they go to Iraq. He says when Saddam was overthrown people partied, does it sound familiar? He named himself ruler for life, and Vince made himself the best of Raw. He says Vince doesn't give a damn about anyone and that's why no one gives a damn about Vince. Vince falls down and looks like he will cry.


    -We come back with Regal at ringside trying to get Vince to the back. He's emotionally bankrupt.

    -As if things couldn't get worse for Vince, HHH makes his way to the ring. HHH tells Regal he will handle this, because he is close, like family. HHH tries to see if anyone is home in Vince land and does the Cena, "you can't see me" deal. He then says Vince has officially flipped. HHH sits down beside him and puts his arm around him. He's sorry. He's sorry for ruining the portrait, kissed Steph, said he has sex with men and so forth. HIS BAD. Now for the love of God, leave the ring before they cancel the show. Regal then says he has a better idea. HHH should leave and show some compassion or he will…he is stopped by HHH. He then says he will have security toss HHH. Regal tries to talk to Vince, who doesn't react and then helps him up. Vince is up and grabs the mic. He grunts and says he has a better idea. Get Coach. No security, just Coach. Regal and Coach vs. HHH, tonight. He hopes something bad happens tonight, to everyone there.


    -Back from commercial and it is handicap match time!

    HHH vs. Coach and William Regal

    They are all in their regular clothes. HHH knocks down Coach, knee to Regal and they go to the floor. They brawl, and Regal slams HHH to the steps. Regal lays HHH by the post and lands a sick kick and covers for 2. Regal with rights and lefts, holds HHH and Coach works over HHH now. An Irish whip and boot by HHH. A clothesline to Coach. Rights to all. Knee buster to Regal, slams Coach to the corner and Regal goes for Knux. POWER OF THE PUNCH~! Spine buster by HHH, well that stops that. Coach gets the knux and HHH sees that. Coach just hands them over, HAHAHA! He tries to bargain with HHH, Pedigree and that is that. Regal stares down HHH after the match.

    Winner: HHH @ 3:41 via pin
  • It was what it was. I am still annoyed by the handicap matches we see almost weekly in WWE, but this served its purpose.
    Rating: *

    -JR and King discuss JBL costing Jericho the WWE title. We see footage/stills of last night's show.



    WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH: Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes vs. The redneck Whirling Dervish (Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch)

    Cade and Cody to begin. Cade slams him to the corner, they double-team Cody and then Murdoch beats him down. Cody escapes, tags Holly who cleans house. A clothesline to Murdoch, chops but Murdoch gets a boot, walks into the Alabama slam, but Cade stops that and they get the double team Yakuza. Cade tags in and covers for 2. Murdoch tags in, assisted double team leg drop gets 2. Clubbing shots by Murdoch, off the ropes and eats a dropkick. Tag to Cade and Cody. Cody knocks Murdoch to the floor and then gets a bulldog to Cade for 2 as Murdoch makes the save. Holly and Murdoch to the floor, Cody tries a DDT and gets it for the win.

    Winner: Rhodes and Holly @ 3:00 via pin
  • If they want people to care they will have to give these guys more than 3-minutes a week. It was "fine" for the time given, but totally forgettable.
    Rating: *½


    -Flair says he will never retire, even though Vince said he didn't want Flair to get hurt on his watch. Flair says he doesn't get hurt. He has been wrestling for 35-years, he loves us and the business. More than that, he loves being the nature Boy! He has sacrificed a lifetime doing this and walking away is not an option. His family has sacrificed, because he has been selfish being Ric Flair. He has traveled with Dusty, Steamboat, Windham, and Arn Anderson. Old friends. He has made new friends. HHH, HBK, Taker, Batista…he cherishes their friendships and will forever. Now it is up to him to give us what he has made us believe in. he has to be the Nature Boy! For the boys that believe in him, because he respects them as the future. He is not ready for the second half of his life. He has Umaga, and he knows that if he loses it is over. He promises when he walks down the ramp, he will give us the best of Ric Flair. He doesn't care who it is, because they have to be at their best so when he does get beat, he got beat by the best. He HAS to be the man! He will not get beat in that ring without the fight of his life. He is loses, thank you all.

    Ric Flair vs. Umaga

    Lock up and Umaga tosses Flair back. He struts and avoids a charge, chops to Umaga. Umaga slams him back down, boot and then slams Flair to the corner. Umaga lays the boots to Flair, head butts and then a kick to the back of the head. Off the ropes and a boot to the face by Umaga, a splash and cover for 2. Vulcan Neck Pinch by Umaga, Flair battles to his feet and is forced back down. Head butts again by Umaga, Flair to his feet and off the ropes only to take a back elbow by Umaga. Irish whip and a back elbow by Flair. He charges and a clothesline by Umaga. Umaga misses a knee drop, chops by Flair, off the ropes and a Samoan Drop (HE IS SAMOAN) by Umaga gets 2 as Flair gets the ropes. Belly to belly by Umaga and a cover for 2. Ass drop by Umaga and another. Umaga back to the Neck Pinch, more head butts and Flair is trying to escape. Flair to his feet, chops by Umaga. Rights and forearm shots and Flair is down. A head butt by Umaga, to the corner and 2nd rope he goes and MISSES a head butt, both men are down. To their feet and chops by Flair. Off the ropes and a chop block by Flair. Another and Umaga is finally down! A figure four try is stopped, uppercut by Umaga and Flair to the floor. Umaga follows, and slams Flair to the steel post. Umaga goes for the Clambake on the floor, but Flair moves and Umaga crashes through the barrier! Flair back into the ring and beats the count and Umaga doesn't! Flair wins!

    Winner: Ric Flair @ 7:35 via Count Out
  • A fun monster match that made Umaga look like a bad ass and also made Flair sympathetic. Umaga misses the charge and goes through the barrier, and Flair beats the count. He doesn't "beat" Umaga, but survives. I liked how they did that, instead of the lame DQ most figured on.
    Rating: **¼

    -Flair then get a mic and says, "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~!"


    -We get replays of the Flair/Umaga match.

    -Chris Jericho makes his way to the ring. Jericho is pissed and says he had Orton beat, he should be happy, but it was due to a disqualification. He had him ready to tap, and this happened. MONKEYS~! We see video of the JBL run in. So instead of being champion, he is here with questions. He invited JBL here tonight. He didn't show up, so since JBL won't come to Raw, Y2J will go to Smackdown. JBL is here on the screen. Jericho turns his back, so that JBL will feel welcomed to come to the ring. JBL puts himself over and says Jericho can't just invite him and expect him to show up. JBL says Jericho touched him and he got burned. Jericho asks who the hell he thinks he is. Jericho says people get knocked around all the time, hell, last week the timekeeper ate a superkick last week. JBL says he is not in a category with a lowly timekeeper. He speaks and then you speak to him. JBL is a champion. Jericho calls him an ugly baby, and says he knows he will be at Smackdown to pay JBL a visit to get an answer. JBL calls him a punk and says to reconsider. JBL makes deals, and made one with McMahon. He admits that Jericho was close, but he won't be getting another title match. If he comes to Smackdown, he won't appear at the Rumble. JBL says if Jericho messes with him, Jericho will never be champion again. Jericho asks what happened to JBL. He says he is soft, a stuffed shirt and has lost his edge. What happened to the ass kicker, most dominant champ in SD history. Did he sell his balls on Wall Street. Now he is an announcer, JBL became irrelevant. JBL is not a wrestling god, but a wrestling after thought. JBL is insulted that Jericho questioned him. He has to put over guys that can't lace his boots. He retired, but is not dead. Get ready for the consequences, JBL is coming to Raw. You want to save us, you find a way to save Raw, and I saved SD and reigned like no one else. I was, and you will find out that I still am a wrestling God!


    Santino Marella and Carlito vs. London and Kendrick

    Who knew, London and Kendrick and still employed. Santino and Carlito can't decide who will start. Santino and Kendrick will begin the match, Santino misses a bunch of kicks and punches and eats a slap and arm drag. Tag to London, off the ropes and a double arm drag to Santino. London works the arm, Santino takes him to a corner and after a series of counters London gets a dropkick. Carlito tags in and slams London to the corner, lays the boots and lefts to London and then gets a back elbow. Carlito off the ropes, RANA by London and then the monkey flip, Kendrick tags in with a top rope cross body and Santino stops the count. To the floor, Maria is used as a shield, meanwhile back in the ring Carlito gets a lung blower on Kendrick and that's all.

    After the match Santino says they are new partners and will be a success. He calls Carlito a Columbian, to which Carlito corrects him, and Santino says they will be great together.

    Winners: Santino and Carlito @ 2:55 via pin
  • Wow, they spent an entire year building up London and Kendrick on Smackdown, now the can barely make TV and when they do they are the goof troop. How sad.
    Rating: *¾


    -Todd is with Randy Orton. He says Jericho got what he deserved and he has killed the Y2J virus. He then says he beat HHH, HBK and Cena. Hardy maybe confident because he beat HHH and that it is his dream to be the WWE champion. Orton says he is a killer of dreams, and Hardy has never faced anything like Orton. Facing Orton will be the worst thing that could happen to Hardy.

    -Flair and HHH meet backstage. HHH knew he would win and said there will always be one more limo to ride. Vince is there, looking delusional. In two weeks, Flair will be on the line again as Flair will have to face HHH. Happy New Year. Vince is crazy.


    Jeff Hardy © and HBK vs. Randy Orton © and Mr. Kennedy

    I am happy to see they have the left hand/wrist taped up for Kennedy, selling last night's injury. Excellent continuity. Orton and Jeff to begin. Lock up and a side headlock by Orton, off the ropes and a shoulder tackle by Orton. Jeff back with a hip toss and arm drag and Orton backs off. Kennedy tags in, lock up and lays the boots to Jeff but I shaving issues with the left hand. Off the ropes and a shoulder block by Jeff. Front flip leg drop and a cover for 1. Atomic drop and a leg drop to the sack by Jeff. The basement dropkick connects and Jeff is in control. He slams Kennedy to the corner, off the ropes and a cross body by Jeff, and then rights to Orton. HBK helps him clear the way and they deliver stereo plancha's and we'll head to a commercial @ 2:35.

    Back from commercial @ 5:27 with Kennedy in control of HBK, but HBK rolls out for a tag to Jeff. Irish whip and Jeff misses the whisper in the wind. Orton tags in and beats down Jeff with rights. Orton stomp now and the knee drop connect. Kennedy tags in, rights to Jeff, off the ropes and a back elbow by Jeff and then a clothesline. Tag to HBK and he starts to clean house on Kennedy. Atomic drop, rights and then slams Orton into the ring. Flying forearm to Orton. KIP UP and Kennedy kills HBK with a clothesline! Nice flip sell as well. Kennedy goes for a cover and gets 2. To the corner, Orton tags in and works over HBK with rights in the corner. Orton applies the chinlock and tries to keep HBK down, HBK to his feet, rights to Orton and then chops in the corner. A hard Irish whip by Orton and HBK does the corner flip sell. Orton gets a cover for 2. Orton works the Orton stomp, tags in Kennedy and he chokes out HBK on the ropes. Kennedy lays the boots to HBK in the corner and then takes off his head with the ole kick, Kennedy covers for 2 as Jeff makes a save. Kennedy into the Camel clutch now, HUMBLING HBK. HBK fights, works to his feet and gets a jawbreaker on Kennedy. Chops by HBK, superkick caught by Kennedy, Kamikaze roll countered and HBK finally lands an Enziguri! Tags to Jeff and Orton. Jeff rushes in and flies into Kennedy. Gourd buster to Orton. HBK takes Kennedy to the floor and Jeff tries the TOF, countered and then get it! SWANTON~! 1…2…3!

    Winners: Jeff Hardy and HBK @ 13:45 via pin
  • A good match with good action and the right decision with Jeff winning to follow up from Armageddon.
    Rating: ***


    The 411: We started off with the Vince is crazy deal, which was done well but it seems like we saw this wackiness not that long ago. While handicap matches annoy me, the HHH one made sense and was with Coach, so I was fine with it. The ladies match that kicked off the show wasn't half bad either. We got the tits and ass, but also a decent little bout there. Nobody cares about the tag team titles because WWE hasn't given people a reason to care. You can't expect people to get emotionally involved when they get only three-minutes a week and no promo time. Flair promo was awesome and it is great that they are letting him talk, they have to because at this point it is his best asset and it is how he will get people emotionally invested, which I felt he did. The match was also a fun monster match that made Umaga look like a bad ass and also made Flair sympathetic. The finish was perfect I thought. The Jericho/JBL confrontation was great, their back and forth was really something great. I am not sold on the feud or that Jericho has been dropped from the title picture already for it, but tonight was great promo work and interaction. Santino and Carlito as a tossed together team smells of them having nothing for either man to do, but the worst part is that London and Kendrick have been completely lost on Raw, and have been booked poorly. The main event was good stuff, a nice but of action and the win for Hardy was an excellent follow up from last night. Add that to the Flair promo as well as the JBL/Jericho promo and this was a strong show.



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    Larry i love ya but your being too nice about tonight's show.whereas last week was great this was total and complete garbage looks like things went back to normal in WWE.

    Posted By: Dave (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 12:16 AM

     
     
    Dave, I admit there was stuff I didn't like, but I think the Flair Angle, JBL/Jericho and Main Event made it a pretty strong show. But hey, that's why opinion is great. Thanks for reading and using the comments feature! have a good week.

    Posted By: Larry Csonka (Registered)  on December 18, 2007 at 12:19 AM

     
     
    Dave, I have to disagree and go with Larry. I enjoyed a lot of the old-school they portrayed tonight from Flair's simple but effective promo and putting over Hardy with actual *gasp* clean pinfall victories over other main eventers.

    Posted By: Bramma (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 12:25 AM

     
     
    Hmm, judging by your report Larry it seems this was just another Raw that was 'there'. Nothing special.
    But i suppose its hard to backup from last weeks 3 hour show.

    Good report.


    Posted By: Brad (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 12:33 AM

     
     
    I thought the show was strong, too. The promos were long but they were done well. My only complaint was the bit with Regal bringing in the brass knuckles, the ref SEEING them but just standing there doing nothing. He should have thrown the match out then and there, but NO. Why bother sneaking around with brass knuckles if there's no penalty once the ref spots them? But, that little thing aside - I enjoyed the show a lot. I'm happy to see Jeff Hardy being pushed. I'm always happy to see someone who doesn't look roided up given a big push. But for all Jeff's classic TLC matches, he really does deserve it.

    Posted By: JaysonNC (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 12:33 AM

     
     
    Raw was pretty good I thought. I actually predicted the ending to the Umaga/Flair match right about the time that Umaga followed Flair to the floor. That wasn't obvious booking though, I think I just have a super power. Maybe I should book a wrestling show since Larry liked the finish so much :)

    Posted By: Scott (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 12:48 AM

     
     
    Am I seeing things or did Bob Holly fuck up the landing on his dropkick? It looked like he landed on the back of his head, but nobody commented on it. Nobody other than Lawler, who again called it one of the best in the business.

    Posted By: John (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 01:05 AM

     
     
    Its good to see one Hardy finally getting a push. God they waited so long to pull the trigger on Matt then he got sick. One of the things I have to comment on was the womens match I thought Kelly Kelly and McCool showed a great deal of improvement and it was Melina that screwed one up.

    Posted By: Chris (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 01:24 AM

     
     
    This was a great recap to read. I missed the actual broadcast.

    Posted By: Dennis (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 02:39 AM

     
     
    Please, god, do not allow JBL-DD back into a ring without a Manzier or a Bro.

    Posted By: Andrew (guest) (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 06:31 AM

     
     
    I give the show a B im not in to the Jeff Hardy thing.Its like they forgot he went to TNA and sucked there. The Flair and Umaga match was alright.

    Posted By: jeremy (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 09:38 AM

     
     
    I am not sure how you can say Hardy sucked in TNA, when he was champion there at least once, if not multiple times.

    Posted By: Jon (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 10:41 AM

     
     
    Im just saying at one point anyone that went to tna would win the title a few months after they were there then lose it. I just cant get into the Jeff Hardy its like Shawn all over again.

    Posted By: jeremy (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 11:49 AM

     
     
    What a smart move by WWE,lest pump Jericho's return to the fullest,tell everyone that he is going to save us from Randy Orton,Lose To Orton On His First PPV match back, and start a program with JBL the next night on RAW.If this was the plan form the begining,then they should have brought JBL back onto the roster a long time ago,and then Jericho could have returned to "save us" form him instead of coming back to save us for ORTON and Failing.

    Nice Comeback Jericho
    at least in TNA you probabily would have some kind of title around your waiste.
    But hay what do i know,im just a sucker who waistes his money every month on WWE PPV's


    Posted By: Paul (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 11:57 AM

     
     
    That HBK kicket butt and he is the greatest wrestle and an icon and Rick Flair was doing good he whup Umaga and Jerchico is good woooo wooo wooo raw is a good show Triple HHH is the best wrestle.

    Posted By: Steven (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 01:52 PM

     
     
    John Cena is still champ and he will beat up all new and old wrestlers. Cena is the 1# superstar in WWE and he got talent in the ring . i rate him a 1 and he the best.

    Posted By: sTEVEN (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 02:00 PM

     
     
    to me this is just like a bad impact! shit undercard good main event. C+

    Posted By: PunkHead (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 02:15 PM

     
     
    I Loved the post match promo by Santino, he and Carlito could be GOLD! And to hell with the Jeff Hardy push! I can sum up Jeff's entire carreer with 2 words "SPOT MONKEY"!

    Posted By: Puckett (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 02:20 PM

     
     
    Paul's right, Larry. While I enjoyed the Y2J/JBL promo (almost as good as the Steiners/Team 3D promo) I agree that it looks as if they dropped the ball on the "Save Us" program. To have him go for the title right off the bat instead of having this feud first really hurts his momentum. I am a huge Y2J fan, and I think had they built him up to a World title shot instead of hot shotting it off the bat it would've been better. Hopefully they can drag out this feud to WM 24.
    Anyway, Raw was good. I liked how they let Hardy talk on the mic. He's gotten better and that will help him get even more support as he battles Orton. It won't end up like Holly/Lesnar since Hardy is over.

    I kind of like the Santino/Carlito combo, it will add some much needed personality to the tag team ranks. However, it depletes an already weak IC division.

    Also, the Vince stuff is tired and I Flair is gold as usual. Good show tonight.


    Posted By: Ryder (guest) (Guest)  on December 18, 2007 at 02:31 PM

     


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