411's TNA Impact Report 07.10.08
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 07.10.2008
I have no wacky title. I was busy crying that I have to review a match containing BG James and Kip James. But hey, Doug Williams!
Greetings, humanity! I am Chris Lansdell, guest host of this week's Impact recap since El Gran Jefe Csonka is worn out from real life escapades. Gotta love real life.
TNA Wrestling - Cross the LINE!
We get a video package, highlighting the Beer Money – LAX feud. TNA Impact begins...NOW!
Straight into a parking lot brawl between Homicide and Roode. Homicide blocks an attempt to ram his head into a Jeep and reverses it. Beatery on top of a Sportage by Homicide. Trash can shot to the head of Roode. Roode regains control and hurls Homicide into the side of a trailer, then hits him to deep right field with a lead pipe. Roode swings for the fences with a plank and misses. OH MY GOD he tries the Gringo Killer in the parking lot, but Jackie breaks it up. That would have been nasty. A man in a bandanna (gee, wonder who that could be) attacks Homicide, and we have a three on one. Homicide gets handcuffed and beaten, then is dragged into the arena. They throw him into the ring, Storm has his belt off but chooses to superkick Homicide in the head first. He starts with the strapping, but I've seen stronger strap shots in fetish porn. I mean, heard about. From Westerfeld. Yeah, that's it. Finally Hernandez has finished taking a dump or beating off to Salinas' porno or whatever he was doing. and is out for the save until the numbers game~! gets the better of SuperMex. Whipped in, he runs through the attempt by Beer Money and clears the ring of evil heels. Hernandez and Guerrero tend to Homicide, and GUITAR as Sting is in the rafters again. Why? This couldn't have waited for a less hot angle?
COMMERCIAL
We're back and we get a package for the poorly-managed, problem-riddled World X Cup.
Match 1.5 – Masato Yoshino vs Doug Williams
Mark the fuck out! I need to see Chaos Theory in this match. Lockup and Doug starts off with some cheap shots before getting blitzed by the speed of Yoshino. Dude is not quick, he's sudden. Williams counters the speed with a high knee. Cover gets 2. Snap mare followed by a slam and a leaping knee drop gets 2. Why do we need a replay of a knee drop? Gutwrench suplex gets another 2. Nicely done. German countered, Yoshino with a takedown and a ridiculously high missile dropkick gets 2.7. Palm strikes into a sloppy botched tilt-a-whirl for 2. Yoshino up top again, Williams crotches him and hits a double underhook superplex for 2. Powerbomb try countered into a sunset flip by Yoshino for 2. Charge by Yoshino misses, CHAOS MUTHALOVING THEORY!!!!!!!!!! gets the 3. I am a happy panda.
Winner: Doug Williams via pin (Chaos Theory) Rating: ** The botch really hurt this match in my view, but otherwise it was solid.
We get a backstage segment with Angle telling Angelina and Velvet to do some squats. The marks hate them because they're hot, allegedly. I'm hating them right now....with MY WANG. They start doing squats and Jeremy has a small tent pole issue. GET THE BAG~!
COMMERCIAL. No mid-match breaks so far, 2 matches in 23 minutes...I approve!
Lauren is in a yoga class with the Guru. After some tremendously unfunny crap, Lethal appears and annihilates Dutt. He drops a rack of balls on him, and the symbolism speaks for itself.
Now Lauren is with Taylor. She sure gets around in her lunch hour. Taylor is nervous, shaky and sweaty, much like Batista at a Wellness test.
Another video package, this time for the 6-man tag on Sunday. Of course, you can check out the live pay per view coverage RIGHT HERE on 411mania.com! TNA do a good job with these packages, and with the PPV this weekend you can forgive the forsaking of match time to build the event.
COMMERCIAL
A Rough Cut segment for Matt Morgan airs. His wife's kinda hot.
Match 2.5: Falls Count Anywhere 6-man Tag – Kip James, Petey Williams (w/ Rhaka Khan) and Tomko vs BG James, Eric Young and Matt Morgan
Damn, Tomko has fallen out of favour. I presume we get a PPV match out of this mess, since none of them is on the card. Hell, when was the last time any of them were on Impact? Morgan appears to be working the Brock Lesnar gimmick still.
Morgan and Kip square off in the ring, Tomko and BG outside along with Williams and Young. Morgan in control in the ring, he goes OLD SCHOOL on Kip. Vintage Morgan~! Tomko breaks it up and lays in the beatings to Morgan, then whips him into the railing. Petey is thrown into Morgan but that gets countered. Morgan nails Tomko and gets a 2 count on the outside. Young throws Petey into the crowd and continues the beatings, Petey regains control and applies a Sharpshooter on the arena steps! We get away to watch BG and Kip hitting each other, and when we come back to EY and Petey the hold is broken and EY is in control. The camera work is all over the place on this match and making it impossible to call.
Young and Petey are inside, Petey goes for the SickFlipPiledriver the Canadian Destroyer, EY counters into a wheelbarrow neckbreaker for 2. Now that was new. Very pleasant. Tomko breaks the pin up, but gets thrown out. EY tries to follow but Tomko has Rhaka's lead pipe. That'll stop you cold. WOW! Petey with a slingshot huracanrana to the outside and that gets the three!
Winners: Petey Williams, Tomko and Kip James via pinfall (Petey on Young, slingshot rana to the outside) Rating: ** Hard to go any higher, the camera angles kept changing and I couldn't really tell what was happening. The finish was nice though. I'd like to see EY get a shot against Petey on Sunday.
Post-match, Tomko and Petey have evil intentions, but CHRIS ABYSS is out for the save. He goes to pick up the lead pipe but appears uncomfortable holding a weapon.
COMMERCIAL
Match 3: TNA Knockouts Championship – Taylor Wild vs Awesome KONG!
For someone who's supposedly not on the payroll, they sure got theme music and an entrance video together for Taylor in a hurry.
Kong charges Taylor in the corner to start, goes for an early Kong Bomb but Taylor escapes and goes schizo on Kong. Kong pushes her off but Taylor keeps coming back until Saeed trips Taylor from outside. EVIL HEEL~! Roxxi is out to even the odds, and we cut to commercial.
Back to the action and Kong is in control with a concerned Roxxi on the outside. I just noticed that Roxxi's shirt says "No carpet. No Drapes." NUMEROUS PURCHASES~! Big hair beal by Kong. Whip to the corner, Kong follows her in and just crushes her into the turnbuckles. The newly 2D Taylor gets slammed, Kong to the second rope, splash misses! A brace of dropkicks by Taylor, followed by a missile dropkick gets 2.89 for Taylor! Leg kicks by Taylor have no effect as Kong just smacks her down. Kong Bomb try, reversed into a sunset flip try, Kong blocks and tries to sit down on it, Taylor moves! Basement dropkick flush to the jaw gets 2.91! Taylor tries a German with predictable results, Kong turns it into the Implant Buster! She caught that good...2.935 only! Backhand, backhand...URAKEN MISSES! SCHOOLGIRL! 1...2...3!!!!!! NEW CHAMPION!!!
Winner, and NEW champion: Taylor Wild via pinfall (schoolgirl rollup) Rating: ***¼ I was NOT expecting that. I was thinking a DQ win for Taylor, but then I realised that they would still have to change the title on a DQ. Good, quick match which told a good story of Taylor never giving up and Kong being vicious but beatable. It will be interesting to see where they go from here.
COMMERCIAL
After a recap of the shocking title change, JB is backstage with Kaz and Team TNA, Kaz talks about people bragging about what they did 10 years ago. That's a shoot, brahs!
World X Cup match – Ultimo Guerrero vs Kaz
So Team Mexico only has 2 guys? Weird. I guess Averno and Mistico had visa issues.
Standard indy exchanges to start. Kaz goes for a superplex VERY early, Guerrero turns it into a top-rope gourdbuster for 2! Fabulous. Chops in the corner by Guerrero, followed by a headstand Bronco Buster for 2. Guerrero is busy trying to quiet the crowd, so Kaz regains control briefly, but Guerrero catches a top rope inverted suplex for 2 more! Side slam countered by Kaz, dropkick and a clothesline. Whip reversed by Kaz into a kick combo for 2. Kaz charges, Guerrero elevates him to the apron but Kaz hits the neck snap then BLOWS a springboard, but I think it was intentional. Guerrero gets a quick 2. Kaz is selling the knee, but manages to climb up for a super rana...BLOCKED! SUPER BOMB across the ring gets 2. Moonsault missed by Guerrero, Kaz hits the Wave of the Future and gets the 3!
Winner: Kaz via pinfall (Wave of the Future) Rating: *3/4 There was no flow to this match. A few months ago I would have gone much higher with the rating, because of the moves, but there was nothing to connect them. It just seemed like they were pulling them out with nothing in between except Guerrero shushing the crowd. Kaz "hurting" his knee and then ignoring it pissed me off as well.
Lauren is with AJ, Gail and ODB. AJ puts over the ladies saying it's about them, not him. Gail is noticeably reading from a script on the floor, but at least she doesn't sound like it. ODB promises a facial for Love and Sky. I have no doubt ODB is able to provide one, and I would be glad to help her out.
COMMERCIAL
A video package for Ultimate X, followed by the final hard sell for Victory Road. Cornette is out to make the rematch for Sunday, Kong vs Wild.
Angle is backstage again, telling off the Beautiful People for tanning. "SCREW YOUR BOOBS!" - Kurt Angle. That may be the greatest line ever. EVER.
COMMERCIAL
Another video package, this time for Joe vs Booker. Apparently Booker is going to apologise to Joe now. Booker calls Joe out in his posh voice, but loses points for not calling him Samoa Joseph. Booker does respect Joe, and he wants to apologise for his past behaviour. Yes, he's sorry for what's going to happen this Sunday night. Shock. Booker thinks Joe can't beat him. Who have you beaten Joe? Booker lists the people he has beaten and Joe looks about as impressed as one of Ashley Massaro's clients. Joe tells Booker he'll be sorry alright. Oh look, Sting again. Yippee. PLEASE don't add him to the match, I beg you. Booker presumes he wants the winner, but Sting says those are Booker's words, and walks off. Whatever man.
COMMERCIAL. I didn't see Hellboy, but the previews for 2 are not interesting me much.
Now we have a package for Kim vs Love. Could they not have spread this out over 2 weeks?
MAIN EVENT: Kurt Angle and the Beautiful People vs AJ Styles, ODB and Gail Kim
ODB and Love start, ODB catches a crossbody and hits a fallaway slam. Tag to Kim and to Sky, who looks amazing tonight. Gail dominates Sky so she tags in Angle. AJ is in now and they exchange armbars. Slam by AJ, high leaping kneedrop and AJ gets 2. BEAUTIFUL dropkick by AJ gets 2 more as Frank Trigg and Karen Angle make their ways out.
COMMERCIAL
Back from break and Angle is in control with a body scissors/chinlock combo. We see that during the break, Frank Trigg distracted AJ to let Angle take control. Angle Slam try reversed into a DDT by AJ, and both men are down. They exchange big shots mid-ring, AJ with the roaring clothesline to take control. Pele! ITJUSTCOMESOUTOFNOWHEREMIKE! Styles Clash countered, double clothesline and both men are down again. That should make Love and Sky feel right at home. Hot tags and the faces are HOUSES~! EN~! FUEGO!!! AJ with the flip to the outside onto AJ, Gail hits the strait-jacket neckbreaker for the 3.
Winners: Gail Kim, ODB and AJ Styles via pinfall (Kim on Sky, strait-jacket neckbreaker) Rating: **½ Again, nothing special. Standard, paint-by-numbers PPV hype match. Everyone faced their opponents for Sunday, one of the people not involved in the PPV took the fall, and the heels ended up on top. Nothing outstanding, but nothing bad, so the rating goes right in the middle.
Post-match, the heels attack, and Angle goes to break AJ's freaking ankle while the Beautiful People beat down Gail Kim. Karen is in, LOW BLOW! AJ goes for the Styles Clash, but Trigg breaks it up and hits Angle with a snap fireman's carry. Pretty crisp their MMA boy. Angle locks in the ankle lock while Love and Sky give Gail the bag as we go off the air.
Final Thoughts
Well, it hyped the PPV alright. I know I was willing to give TNA the pass for all the videos, but they went way beyond that pass. Is there any reason that the two matches made tonight could not have been announced last week? We could have had a 6-woman tag with Taylor, ODB and Kim vs Kong and the Beautiful People, leaving the title change for Sunday. Kaz-Guerrero was just a bunch of moves with nothing in between. Everything else was pretty much...there. Thumbs solidly in the middle.
Posted By: Guest#9447 (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
You know what...honestly this was a great Impact and no im not bias. I hear about how this site is SOO anti-TNA, and im starting to believe it. Jesus christ...let me do the Impact Report, christ all mighty. I'm ordering the PPV this sunday. Eat it, bitch.
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:21 PM
i just have 1 question, just 1.....why aren't the wwe matches critized so highly like this, i know diff. people do reviews but i hadn't seen 1 so-so raw or smackdown match get criticized like this in a long time. Not saying u crapped on these matches by any means, but they were highly criticized
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Very good show tonight, I'm interested to see where this thing with Sting will go.
Posted By: Prague (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Impact was MUCHO BETTER THIS WEEK than last.
Samoa Toad still sucks ass though.
Posted By: Angry Bear (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM
i just have 1 question, just 1.....why aren't the wwe matches critized so highly like this, i know diff. people do reviews but i hadn't seen 1 so-so raw or smackdown match get criticized like this in a long time. Not saying u crapped on these matches by any means, but they were highly criticized
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Because one claims to be much better than the other all the time and believe they are so much different than the WWE Product when they're just a mini version of it. They also advertise "The best pro wrestling in the united states".
Posted By: Guest#1034 (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM
tna needs to keep sticking to wrestling-what they do best and leave the sports entertainment to wwe-what they do best
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Because one claims to be much better than the other all the time and believe they are so much different than the WWE Product when they're just a mini version of it. They also advertise "The best pro wrestling in the united states".
Posted By: Guest#1034 (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM
honestly, their overall wrestling is better than the wwe's, on the other hand like i said the wwe has them in entertainment and many other things but i'm just saying the wwe is a wrestling company too and why not judge them the same on wrestling
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM
How could you possibly not see Taylor winning the belt?
Posted By: natedoggcata (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:51 PM
LMAO at Guest no the WWE marks are the ones always claiming to better and sorry from a wrestling point of view it is the better the show.
The mini-WWE bs is always funny this actually has wrestling, tag teams, a legit womens division and a better champion then any of WWE has except maybe Punk.
Oh and this is why I don't go by ratings because people are watching more of ECW with Mark Henry as world champion then this which sums up the wit of some of our fellow wrestling fans.
Get some better insults you tard.
Posted By: Guest#3293 (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:59 PM
"but then I realised that they would still have to change the title on a DQ."
Not at all. That was the rules with the NWA title. Now that TNA have their own title belts, they don't change hands on DQs. There were several house-show title matches then ended with DQ's (during the Christian/Kurt feud).
Posted By: Dave M (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 12:05 AM
i wouldn't be suprised if kong gets it back at victory road
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 12:35 AM
LMAO at Guest no the WWE marks are the ones always claiming to better and sorry from a wrestling point of view it is the better the show.
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FUNNY LAST I CHECKED ONLY 20 THOUSAND PEOPLE ACTUALLY BOTHER TO BUY THE PAY PER VIEWS OUT OF THE 1 MILLION PEOPLE WHO WATCH THE SHOW.
Also last I checked WWE fans really don't give a shit about TNA and TNA fans are just desperate for a war.
Posted By: Guest#2729 (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Doug Williams is pure awesomeness.
Posted By: ALEC BALDWIN (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 01:00 AM
TNA calling themselves the best wrestling or whatever excuse you assholes have to shit on everything TNA is A) A marketinh ploy to put themselves over and look like the better wrestling company and B) They haven't said 'We are wrestling' in a while so what's with the fucking excuses.
You guys are just following what the writers on 411 are doing. I guarentee with Csonka (I think he's the one who does impact on 4Rs) never timed the matches and then bitched about it most of you here wouldn't. Also if Csonka didn't use that excuse for bitching then you wouldn't say "because TNA thinks its the better wrestling blah, blah, blah"
My point of this rant is that the TNA hate on this site is very annoying
Posted By: Kalvin (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 01:21 AM
Im surprised angelina could fell borash pitchin a tent!
Posted By: DJ K (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 01:22 AM
me and A-Rod are going to TNA's PPV this sunday. Hope to see you guys on camera.
-M
Posted By: Madonna (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 02:04 AM
Funny how a NON TNA wrestler can save the show, thankyou Doug Williams!
Taylor who did what where? A who cares... next please
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 02:19 AM
How could you possibly not see Taylor winning the belt?
Posted By: natedoggcata (Guest) on July 10, 2008 at 11:51 PM
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Not everyone reads the spoilers.
No one honestly expected Taylor to win. Kong's been a great champion for so long, that I fully expected her to carry the belt to BFG 2008.
You might've expected Taylor to look strong, but not to win the belt like that.
Posted By: Guest#5742 (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 03:30 AM
hi i'm vince mchmahon. and i own the wwe. i also would like to point out that i've read your TNA hate comments and i laugh at them, i'm also trying to heal from that poor attempt to kill me three weeks ago. I would like to make something clear.
One: I'm doing fine and i'm alive kane, thanks for your concern.
Two: I'm the owner of TNA, That's right. Vincet Kennedy Mchmahon. Own's TNA since the very getco. It was a conspiracy. I mean hell why would i do this? It's Genious actually. To get you people talking and get more money. I'm sorry but i find your comments arguing over everything just plane funny. Please watch WWE on Monday and Friday nights. And also check out ECW and TNA as well.
I'm Vince signing off.
Posted By: Vince (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 03:34 AM
Several comments about the show, the recap, and the commenters on the recap:
---I love the use of the decimals in the 2 counts, like 2.65 and 2.97. I was surprised you didn't use any in the Kaz match, because he seems to be learning the Angle trick of kicking out at the last possible millisecond, which I love. I agree with you that Kaz's "botch" on the springboard looked like it was on purpose, but there didn't really seem to be much point to it if it was. I remember a couple years when Shelton Benjamin would fall off the ropes, or suffer some other such "blunder" in every match for about 6 or 8 weeks, which had me convinced he was absolutely phenomenal for being able to convincingly pull off these "accidents" every single time without actually hurting himself, but of course it never actually led to any kind of resolution, so it was all pretty pointless in the end.
---Excellent use of "A brace of dropkicks by Taylor". You really gave the old thesaurus a workout for that one, didn't you?
---To those claiming he unfairly criticized the matches, he gave them all around 2 stars except for the Women's title match which he gave over three. It's hard to compare because many of the weekly show recappers don't give star ratings (or do sporadically) but not too many tv matches get 3 stars or more from anyone that I've seen, due to most being under 10 minutes, gutted by commercial break(s), and/or having crappy finishes. Just because he pointed out the flaws in the matches, doesn't mean he was saying they were terrible, or that WWE's usual TV matches are better.
---His only other major complaint was the constant video packages, and all he really said was that on their own, each video was decent, but there were just way too many of them. I don't really see that you could argue that point, seeing as how there was not even enough time in the show to feature Christian, Rhino, or the Dudleys in the arena. (Unless I missed something explaining why they were absent from the show, which is possible.)
So in summary, good show, good recap, and everyone just ease up a bit, it's just wrestling.
Posted By: Jeff (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 04:06 AM
- "Doug Williams is pure awesomeness."
But how long before he's re-classed as some farcical "TNA homegrown talent" just like the rest of them?
Posted By: Total Nonstop Amoeba (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 06:41 AM
Alright I have to disagree with you on the K-A-Z match vs Ultimo Guerrero. That was one of the best matches I've seen in quite some time and let me explain why.
First we started with the announcers putting over that TNA was in last place in their own event. Cut to Kaz and Co. promising to do it for the company declaring themselves the heart and soul of TNA. The odds are stacked, and the story throughout the fight plays that Kaz is fighting a great wrestler, Tenay put Guerrero over as a 17 year vet and Kaz's penchant to choke in the big one despite winning and fighting huge matches. They also brought out Team TNA to the ramp to do facial expressions and react emotionally selling the underdog attitude. Guerrero dominates, Kaz fights back, Guerrero hits some insane maneuver, Team TNA reacts, Curry Man especially good, Kaz makes a comeback, looking to win for his team then hurts his knee. Alex Shelley's reaction to that with his cross was very well done. Kaz proceeds to get his ass kicked and sells the leg expertly throughout, kicks out a few milliseconds and then hits the Wave of the Future out of nowhere and the crowd loved it, Team TNA is now tied for first place. And even when Kaz went to the turnbuckles to celebrate his victory he sold the leg. I think the story they were going for was really really basic maybe that's why it could have been missed... I thought it was great from all performers involved. Just my three cents.
Posted By: The Weesel (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 07:14 AM
Who in their right mind would mark out for a LAME ASS FINISHER like the Chaos Theory? a roll-up into a bridged german suplex...Last time I checked, a roll up has rarely finished a match, and the bridged german has been nothing more then a set up move for years, by many wrestlers. Needless to say, it's about as devastating as the F-U... lol
Posted By: huh? (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 07:24 AM
Last night's show was an abomination.
1. Sting in the rafters. Very 10 years ago.
2. The Beautiful People. Please, have these women shut their mouths until they learn how to deliver a promo.
3. Sonjay Dutt nearly simulates sex doggie-style in front of a group of kids. Disgusting.
4. The prime example of why TNA sucks - the air a piece to build up Matt Morgan, then have him in a tag match where not only does his team lose, they lose because he couldn't break up the pinfall in time. Then, when they could use the post-match beatdown on Eric Young as a way to show what a badass Matt is, they have him pussy off to the back and Abyss comes out instead.
And that was just the first hour.
TNA, fire Russo, Mantel and anyone else doing the writing. Stop with all the dumb backstage skits. You have some of the finest wrestlers in the world, play to that strength. Right now you're a watered-down copy of WWE and if I want to watch WWE I'll watch the actual product instead of a weaker copy.
Posted By: Scott Bland (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 08:21 AM
Compared to the way PWTorch talk about TNA from what I remember (refuse to go there anymore) 411 isn't a TNA hate site in the slightest.
Posted By: Stephen Bayne (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 08:22 AM
Minor technical complaint
Mike and Don need to learn the names of the other guys' finishers.
They failed to call the Armani Shoe Exchange, they've no excuse for failing to call the Castigo Bucanero yet (and Tenay is supposed to be a lucha expert) and they didn't call the Chaos Theory.
If they are going to keep Williams around and they're building up the lethal knee strikes, he should switch to the Bomb Scare as a finisher.
Posted By: BlueMeanieUK (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 08:25 AM
Looks like a strong card for Victory Road.
But remember when people actually was interested in seeing Lethal Vs. Dutt?? That died quickly with this build up. Damn has it been awful.
Posted By: Spike (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Damn that lucky Borash for bumping and grinding on Angelina!
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 08:37 AM
"To those claiming he unfairly criticized the matches, he gave them all around 2 stars except for the Women's title match which he gave over three. It's hard to compare because many of the weekly show recappers don't give star ratings (or do sporadically) but not too many tv matches get 3 stars or more from anyone that I've seen, due to most being under 10 minutes, gutted by commercial break(s), and/or having crappy finishes. Just because he pointed out the flaws in the matches, doesn't mean he was saying they were terrible, or that WWE's usual TV matches are better."
Posted By: Jeff (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 04:06 AM
i'm not saying he's biased by any means because he pointed out the good in the show.......i'd just like to see recaps go both ways or resemble
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Also last I checked WWE fans really don't give a shit about TNA and TNA fans are just desperate for a war.
Posted By: Guest#2729 (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 12:47 AM
And if you were a red blooded human that craves entertainment like the rest of us you'd want to see a TNA/WWE war as well. You're not going to fucking sit there and act as if you don't want to see two companies go at it again.
Posted By: Ren (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Impact makes it 3 for 3 this week with me catching televised wrestling and it was a decent show. I put it slightly ahead of Raw in terms of in-ring action.
Like Lansdell, I marked the fuck out for the Chaos Theory and still have fond memories of the first time I saw him bust that move out. Good times.
Call me a mark, but I didn't see the title switch coming either because I figured they wouldn't put the new girl over the monster cleanly. Good job not having Roxxi influence the outcome.
I also have to agree with Lansdell about the Kaz/Guerrero match. It just seemed like they were meandering around the ring and just hitting spots. And this comes from a guy that normally doesn't care about transition moves or telling a story if the action is fast paced enough.
I enjoy both guys, especially because Guerrero has some size on him, but moves about as quick as the non-MCMG/Speed Muscle X guys, with the added bonus of tossing guys around with ease, but they just seemed off like they knew that had to save something for Ultimate X Sunday.
Posted By: Wendell Mitchell (Registered) on July 11, 2008 at 09:49 AM
"I'm hating them right now....with MY WANG"
*CHORTLE*
Posted By: ButchReedMark (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Wow... do people really have to put up a big bitch fest about what other people like? Are you guys all 12?
There's no reason to get your panties in a bunch about a difference of opinion.
Posted By: Shock & Awe (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Well at least this way Daniels...I mean Curry Man can't lose another match since he didn't have one. Poor poor Curry Man, just can't catch a break.
BRING BACK GOD'S GIFT TO WRESTLING!
Posted By: Mac (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Good points Jeff. I missed the show but from the recap it looks as if they rebounded a bit from that horrible episode last week with Kurt's 3 blind dates.
Great to see Petey back. Don't know if he's still injured but hopefully he can get back in the swing of things after Victory Road.
I'm ordering the PPV for the hope that Beer Money will win the belts. Nothing against LAX, but Beer Money is the most entertaining tag team in all of wrestling. Besides it'll be fun watching Roode and Storm with gold again.
As far as Sting goes, if TNA continues to play their cards right they should build up the Samoa Joe-Sting feud all the way to Bound for Glory in October.
One more thing, is it just me or did TNA have Taylor take the strap off of Awesome Kong kind of funny considering RAW just had Punk win the World title in such a shocking way?
If this brings about a return to the old "anything can happen" mentality on wrestling shows i'm all for it!
Posted By: Orlando (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I agree with most of what you said Jeff. There was some decent stuff in this report. But there was also some pretty lame reporting. The problem is that Lansdell is just not as funny as he thinks he is, so alot of times, his quips come off as junior highish.
Posted By: bobbalou24 (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Kurt Angle's next t-shirt
"Screw your boobs!"
Hell play that quote before his ring music.
BTW is it just me or does Don West think every title change is the biggest upset in TNA history?
Posted By: Really? (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Hi I'm Shane McMahon I'm inheriting these two companies after Pop finally croaks. Sadly that sonofabitch just won't keel over no matter how many times I drop lighting rigs on him or blow up his limo.
DIE VINCE! DIE!
Shane mcMahon signing off.
Posted By: Shane (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 01:50 PM
A couple of things:
Nothing against Daivari, but Doug Williams should be the captain of Team Int'l since it took them this long to get a win.
I can kinda understand Kurt being upset about Angelina & Velvet spending too much time getting made up. But the tanning session? Wasn't it not too long ago he was working the tanning bed in his speedos?
Posted By: AndresV (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Is it just me or does every Impact report seem to end in a slagging competition.
But you know what I noticed? The TNA supporters are the ones that started it. Okay that is in response to what they see as an unfair review, but then if you don't like the site don't use it. The TV/Movies part of 411 frags me off and so, gues what? I don't go there anymore (it's all pictures of hot babes, which I don't object to in itself but I don't call it Movie/TV news).
Now here are the facts. WWE is more popular then TNA. TNA appeals to a small portion of WWE's audience but also appeals to a niche market of people that like wrestling but don't like the WWE. As a business TNA seems to have reached stability and is unlikely to go away. Wrestling in general would seem to benefit from WWE having serious completion. WWE itself benefits from smalled companies being able to develope new talent in front of the cameras. TNA seem to have set their target on competing with Smackdown but in reality they are competing currently with ECW.
People like different things from their wrestling. The majority seem to prefer what WWE offers to what TNA or ROH can muster. For whatever reason. Doesn't mean they are right, doesn't mean they are wrong.
Finally, I'm not taking sides. All of you folks bitching at each other are idiots. So there.
Posted By: Fenris (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 02:56 PM
Didn't King Kurt do a promo while he was in a tanning bed?
Posted By: King of Handskakes (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 03:33 PM
"SCREW YOUR BOOBS!" - Kurt Angle. That may be the greatest line ever. EVER.
Indeed!
Posted By: moronic mark (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 04:26 PM
wasnt the taylor beating kong match taped before cm punk won the title? i think wwe followed the "shocking title change" of tna.
Posted By: fred (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 04:51 PM
yeah, ROXXI is going to get the womens title in the near future. go girl!
Posted By: tully (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 05:26 PM
yea, since about last summer I've been off and on putting up youtube videos with my opinions on wrestling etc. (lame i know).
But i have a new batch which i'm putting up soon about TNA being an "alternative" and how it doesn't necessarily mean them being completely different. Basically, i don't feel that there's a large enough wrestling audience that doesn't like WWE for TNA to capitalize off of. So I don't think it makes sense for them to be the complete opposite of WWE. I think they do a good job of offering better wrestling while still providing some of the same type of entertainment that WWE provides. To me, TNA is sort of like a hybrid of WWE and ROH. Or at least that's what they should be. They just need to market themselves better to the mainstream public.
Besides them utilizing more storylines and gimmicks, there are still a number of things that TNA does that WWE doesn't. When was the last time WWE brought in talent from around the world to compete in anything? When was the last time WWE highlighted the cruiserweight style of wrestling? When was the last time WWE had legitimate tag team and women's divisions. These are all things that TNA focuses on and does better than WWE. They just need to make that better known to the public.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on July 11, 2008 at 07:55 PM
TNA really needs to focus on marketing. Spike is owned by Viacom, so I'm sure that it is possible for TNA to promote on MTV, BET, CBS, and other channels. I live in Houston, and I have barely seen any Victory Road commercials outside of the Impact telecast. Storylines and wrestlers are useless when they are getting little promotion!!!
Posted By: Bunkhouse Buck (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Y'know, I like your column for the most part, but you really need to get yourself a proofreader or something. Someone who hadn't seen the show would think that Trigg turned face by attacking Angle, and that AJ flipped onto himself during the match.
Posted By: poffo316 (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 01:37 AM
once again, and for the record I never said the report wasn't fair.....I said i'd like to see wwe matches get judged the same
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 02:28 AM
Thats nice guest anyone who watches ECW with Mark Henry as champion is a loser go watch that crap I'll watch this instead I personally could care less about ratings dipshit because its been shown it doesn't go by quality.
Heres a WWE mark: OH MY GOSH PUNK CASHED IN MITB!!! HOLY CRAP EVEN THOUGH ANYONE WITH A HALF A BRAIN SAW THAT COMING I AM IN SHOCK!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Guest#4051 (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 06:33 AM
Yeah by the way this upcoming PPV is worth more then the crappy ones WWE has been putting on as of late and is actually worth buying then Night of Champions.
Posted By: oh also (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 06:38 AM
no Travis WWE is only more "popular" (lost half their audience in 6 years) because its been around longer if both had the same amount of years behind it no one would watch it. TNA and ROH have come a long way in a few years while WWE has gone backwards no matter how much their fans try to change history. WWE used to do 6.0s and now are doing mid 3s instead of claiming how dominant they are look at reality TNA has come a long way in 6 years while WWE has taken a fall. You don't want to admit that fine live in fantasy land the rest of us are sick of the delusional claims of WWE marks your company is not what it once was and never will be.
I love how people keep coming on here telling us not to take on any bashers hey tard this is a TNA recap if you want to go watch Mark Henry as world champion go read about it I'm sure you will go nuts for that exciting feud with Tommy Dreamer on the ECW recap.
Posted By: Wrong (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 06:45 AM
"no Travis WWE is only more "popular" (lost half their audience in 6 years) because its been around longer if both had the same amount of years behind it no one would watch it."
By that thinking, NWA should be bigger than WWE since it's been around longer.
TNgAys are such retards.
Posted By: TNAndroids Must Die (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 07:58 PM
TNA marks just don't get it. They always complain about "WWE marks" but other than a few exceptions I'm not even sure there is such a thing. There might be people who prefer WWE to TNA but they don't blindly defend everything WWE does. That's what a mark does. Read the WWE recaps. The comments are full of complaints from the WWE fans. They complain all the time about the stupid things WWE does. They constantly call Vince out on everything. Hell, one of the top guys in WWE is hated by half the fans. How are they marks?
TNA fans, on the other hand, feel the need to defend everything TNA does no matter how ill-conceived. That's a mark. Do they think they have to make up for the smaller numbers by being extra loyal? They don't. It's okay to criticize & still be a fan.
When they say things like "Well at least TNA doesn't have Vince making himself the star of the show" how is that a shot at WWE fans when they hate the exact same thing & think it's just as stupid? And it certainly doesn't make turning Styles into a clown for a year a good booking decision. Or any other bad TNA idea. So stop deflecting TNA's crap with WWE's crap. Believe me, we all know when WWE f's up. So how about admitting the same when TNA does it?
Posted By: Fred (Guest) on July 12, 2008 at 10:56 PM
@Fred
Amen dude. I watch and like both companies but I don't agree with everything that they do.
And I agree that while even the most loyal WWE fan will call WWE out on when they mess up, most TNA fans won't do the same. And when someone gives TNA any constructive criticism, or state an opinion on something they didn't like about TNA, then that person is either "WWE sheep or an ROHbot" or they use that "TNA is still a young company" excuse.
Someone made a comment before that I agree with. He asked how much longer can TNA marks use that "They are still a young company" excuse to defend TNA when they screw up? How much more slack do we have to cut TNA before we can call them on the BS they do?
Posted By: Rob Z (Guest) on July 13, 2008 at 07:32 AM
thats the winner congrats to TNA droids for the worst argument ever,
Hey moron TNA isn't NWA and they don't have the name recognition of WWE ask a normal person which company they would know.
Please let me stop laughing at you goddamn why wwe marks should never be let out of their parents room.
Sorry WWE marks there won't be stupid arguments on here or you will be handed your ass.
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Congrats to you TNA droids you are this weeks moron of the week award for that terrible argument.`
Posted By: LMAO (Guest) on July 13, 2008 at 10:39 PM
and Fred maybe you should pay attention to the postings and realize this is a TNA board and the WWE marks are the ones who started it.
By the way Fred how does TNA do the same thing as WWE this is actual wrestling defend WWE go ahead mark.
Posted By: oh (Guest) on July 13, 2008 at 10:41 PM
if you don't like TNA fans go to another board this is obviously not your kind of board go watch Mark Henry and tell us that WWE is better because they have better production its a joke and we're calling you out on it and yet you can't actually defend it. When someone is so dense they think TNA has the same background as WWE thats all you need to know. We're sick of people coming on here making bad arguments and using "all TNA marks are droids" sorry we're just tired of it back up your argument or go somewhere else.
I am here from now on if I see a lousy argument like that you get called out on it and if you can't defend it you get embarassed end of story.
Posted By: also (Guest) on July 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM
TNA sucks totally. i mean just think about it. tna officials held a party to celebrate beating ecw in the ratings once. just ponder over it- an ecw episode with the main event as Mark Henry vs Colin Delany got a 1.4 rating while TNA which has several stars like Kurt Angle, Samoa joe, Kevin Nash, Booker t aj styles, christian cage, sting etc got a rating of just 0.95. Despite all the stars they boast they have they depend on their knockouts for ratings(mind u most of them are amazingly sexy). Can TNA even think of competing with WWE at this rate? They cant even deliver when they say we are wrestling, at least WWE delivers what they promise-sports entertainment. Lets go WWE!
Posted By: Jennifer (Guest) on July 14, 2008 at 02:10 PM
Jennifer, Shut your cunt mouth up! I like both, I'm not a "bark" for WWE!
Posted By: dog350yo (Guest) on November 04, 2008 at 01:20 PM
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