411's WWE Great American Bash Report 7.20.08
Posted by Daniel Wilcox on 07.20.2008
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, as Edge finds out.
A video package highlights the Edge/Vickie wedding, and how Triple H spoiled the party Friday night. The package also highlights the JBL/Cena rivalry, and CM Punk's rise and his altercation with Batista.
We are live from the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, New York. Our hosts are Michael Cole and Jerry "The King" Lawler for Raw, Jim Ross and Mick Foley for SmackDown and representing ECW, Mike Adamle and The Tazz.
Festus clears the ring early as they all run from him. Miz and Morrison throw Horny into Festus. Horny rolls his sleeves up, and dives out under the middle rope onto the tag champs. Jesses tosses Miz in and Festus hits him with a leg drop for 1. Two-handed tosses by Festus followed up with rights. Jesse comes in and hits a monkey flip and a leg sweep for 2. Festus back in and catches Miz with an uppercut. Finlay gets a blind tag but east a big boot from Festus. Morrison comes in and hits some mounted punches and kicks and clubbing blows and a European uppercut. Miz comes in now and hits some crossfaces and applies chinlock, and turns it into a Russian leg sweep for 1. Miz and Morrison hit their catapult/forearm/elbow drop combo on Finlay for 2. Morrison applies a chinlock now, but Finlay fights to his feet, but Morrison hits him with a neckbreaker. Finlay comes back on Miz with a flurry of punches, so Morrison comes back in and gets the same treatment. We get a collision of heads, and Ryder gets a blind tag and covers Finlay for 2. Chinlock now by Ryder, and Finlay agains rallies back, but Hawkins comes in and hits a forearm, knees and right hands in the corner. Finlay fights out of the corner and dumps Hawkins, but Hawkins gets back on top and fires off with right hands. Hawkins drives Finlay into Ryder's knee, but Finlay comes back with a Finlay roll. There's a shillelagh shopt somewhere, but Miz and Morrison break the pin, and Hawkins and Ryder regain the advantage over Finlay and Hawkins applies a chinlock. Finlay fights to his feet and telegraphs Hawkins, and Horny comes in and snaps off a head scissors. Jesse tags himself in and hits a Thesz Press on Hawkins, and a Fisherman driver for 2. Hawkins comes back with a jawbreaker, but Horny's distraction allows a hot tag to Festus. He cleans house with a flapjack and running shoulder tackle and the FLYING BISCUIT. The champs get whipped out and tossed. Festus goes up top, but Hawkins pulls him down and gets the win @ 9:03!
Winners: And NEW WWE Tag Team Champions, Hawkins and Ryder
They lock up and Shelton tries a roll up early and gets a couple of quick 1 counts, and finally grabs a side headlock and a shoulder knock down. Matt catches him with a small package for 2 before Shelton goes back to the headlock.Hardy comes back with a hip lock and a deep arm drag take down and then works the arm until Shelton works his way back to his feet and we get a clean break in the corner. Hardy reverses a whip, and blocks the Gold Rush and Shelton then counters the Twist of Fate. Hardy catches Shelton with a reverse elbow but gets tossed to over the top. He tries to skin the cat but Shelton dropkicks him to the floor. Shelton pulls him up to the apron and runs him into the ringpost, sending him to the floor. Shelton rolls him back in and gets a 1 count. Shelton hits back suplex for 2, and follows that up with a backbreaker. He then grabs a really sloppy chinlock/back breaker combo. He goes on the assault with forearms. Benjamin hits a really sloppy backbreaker and then works an abdominal stretch, with Hardy counters out of with a drop for 2. Shelton comes back but Matt counters a back suplex into a crossbody for 2. Hardy runs into a boot, and Shelton counters the Side Effect with a take down for 2. Shelton goes back to a dragon sleeper with the knee in the spine. Hardy fights out but Shelton hits his Dragon whip for 2. He hits a Stinger splash, but goes to it again and eats a pair of boots to the jaw. Hardy comes back and hits the clothesline/bulldog combo for 2. Hardy hits a slam and goes to the top and hits the leg drop for a 2 count. Hardy goes back to the second rope, but Shelton catches him and powerbombs him onto the top turnbuckle! They work through a bunch of pinning combinations, and Hardy hits a SIDE EFFECT for 2. He wants the Twist of Fate, but Shelton shoves him away and dumps him on the top rope. Shelton follows him up but gets elbow off. MOONSAULT! He lands face-first on a knee. GOLDRUSH! That gets the 3 @ 9:34!
Winner: And NEW United States Champion, Shelton Benjamin
In a mobile exclusive from after Raw last week, CM Punk says people have said he can't and won't make it his entire life. He was never meant to be the top guy and yet his name is engraved. He's not the biggest, strongest or smartest . But he's not a fluke. He is in the business of proving people wrong. He's not Batista, he's not John Cena, he's not Shawn Michaels, he's not Bret Hart. He's CM Punk.
They lock up and Henry overpowers Dreamer, shoving him to the mat. Dreamer tries a double leg takedown but gets tossed across the ring. Dreamer goes on the assault with rights and lefts but runs in a vertical splash. Henry kicks Dreamer around and stands on his head for a bit. He just stands on his chest now. He pulls him up and chokes him over the middle rope and mashes his face. Big head butt now by Henry. Henry applies a head vice now but the fans are reluctant to get behind Dreamer. He works his way to his feet but gets thrown down again. Henry works the arm and the boring chants begin. Henry twiss and rips and the hand and arm of Dreamer, but he comes back with rights and runs into that Henry brick wall again. Henry drills him with another right. Henry goes back to the arm twisting, and Dreamer comes back with more rights until Henry slams him down. Dreamer avoids a big splash and hits a low dropkick to the head, and fires off with rights and lefts. Henry charges into a reverse elbow and Dreamer avoids a charge and hits a neckbreaker for 2. DDT! Dreamer knocks Atlas off the apron. Tommy goes to the second rope, but Colin yanks him off across the top rope. Dreamer staggers into a World's Strongest Slam for the win @ 5:49!
Winner: Mark Henry
We get a video package highlighting the Jericho/Michaels feud.
Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho
We get a long staredown and Jericho immediately attacks with forearms, rights and knees and he has Shawn winded early. HBK comes back with a big knife edge chop and a stiff forearm in the corner. Jericho runs into a boot and HBK goes low with a chopblock. Double leg by HBK and he locks in an inverted figure 4! Jericho crawls to the bottom rope quickly. HBK stomps on the knee a few times and hits another forearm. Shawn wraps the knee around the middle rope but Jericho fights it and pulls the referee in the way. Shawn goes back on the assault but gets whipped to the opposite corner. Jericho hits his sprinboard dropkick to send Shawn all the way to the floor. Jericho comes off the steps with a blow to the back and tolls Shawn back in. Jericho connects with a punt to the ribs and mockingly kicks Shawn around. Jericho hits a back suplex and turnbuckle thrusts. Jericho snap mares Shawn and applies a bow and arrow hold but Shawn won't submit. HBK fights back and gets to his feet but Jericho hits a step-up enzuigiri. Jericho hits a slam but then gets caught with an atomic drop. FLYING FOREARM! KIP UP! Jericho gets a rol up though and segues into the WALLS OF JERICHO! Michaels eventually reaches the ropes and Jericho reluctantly breaks. Jericho blocks the super kick and fires off with forearms. Michaels anticipates Jericho's bulldog with a stiff forearm for 2. Michaels heads up top, but Jericho shakes the ropes and Shawn gets crotched. Right by Jericho, Shawn shoves him down. Jericho goes back up but Shawn fights him off. Jericho finally tries for a superplex but Shawn kicks him down. ELBOW FROM THE TOP! Shawn tunes up the band, but has to take Lance Cade out first. Shawn blocks the Codebreaker into a jack-knife rol up for 2. Jericho gets a roll up now and he gets 2. They slug it out middle of the ring and Shawn hip tosses Jericho out onto Lance Cade! Shawn heads up and hits a MOONSAULT onto Cade and Jericho! Jericho strikes Michaels with an elbow as they go back in, and Michaels is busted above the eye. Jericho telegraphs Shawn and notices the eye and goes for it. The referee stops him but Shawn walks out to the middle and Jericho drills him with a right. Michaels is swinging wildly and missing as Jericho pummels him. Jericho hits a vicious kick to the face and a Jericho distraction allows Lance Cade to boot Shawn in the face. The referee wants to stop the match. Jericho hits a head butt to the eye as Shawn is losing blood and fading. Shawn counters into the CHRISTIAN CROSSFACE! Jericho powers out and sends HBK into the middle rope. Jericho goes on the assault again and the referee admonishes him. The ref checks on Shawn but Jericho goes after him with forarms. The ref checks again but Shawn wants to fights. Jericho kicks Shawn right in the head, and again. Jericho won't stop drilling him with rights to that wound. Jricho locks Shawn up and just pummels him with right after right after right hand. The referee pulls Jericho off and stops the match @ 18:18!
Winner: Chris Jericho
EMTs check on Shawn as Jericho celebrates. Shawn gets a nice ovation as he is helped to the back.
We get a movie-spoof commercial for Summerslam.
JR asks Edge how he feels. Edge says Triple H crossed lines. He asks what kind of a pervert puts a camera in another man's hotel room. Edge says his personal life is gone. He is now desperate, which makes him dangerous. Tonight, he will ruin Triple H's life by taking the WWE Championship.
WWE Diva's Championship Match: Natalya Neidhart vs. Michelle McCool
Michelle takes Natalya down with a waistlock, but Natalya reverses, but Michelle gets a near fall. Michelle hits some forearm uppercuts. McCool wheelbarrows but Natalya dumps her on the top rope. Mounted rights by Natalya. Neidhart follows up with a surfboard now but Michelle refuses to give up. Michelle counters beautifully into a heel hook, but Natalya is in the ropes. Natalya regains the advantage and bends Michelle around the ring post. Natalya gets a 1 count. Michelle comes back with forearms but gets taken down and Natalya tries for the Sharpshooter, and she gets it! Michelle won't quit and reaches the topes. Natalya pummels her with forearms and kicks to the head. She pulls her back to the middle and tries for the Sharpshooter again, but McCool counters into the BRAZILIAN HEEL HOOK! Natalya fights and tries to roll to the ropes, but can't get there. She tries to kick her way out but can't, and she taps @ 4:41!
Winner: And FIRST WWE Diva's Champion, Michele McCool
Eve and Cherry celebrate with Michelle. Chris Jericho comes out and tells the fans to keep their ticket stubs because they're significant. Shawn has wrestled his last match. He has been diagnosed with a detached retina. That means he's finished. Sometimes the good guys do win and the bad guys get what is coming to them. For Shawn, the worst has come.
The new Rc Flair DVD is out now.
We get a video package of CM Punk's rise, and the feud with Batista.
Lock up and Batista backs Punk to the corner and smirks. Punk grabs a side headlock but Batista pushes him off again. Punk goes behind but gets caught with an elbow and Batista is laughing now. Punk kicks the thigh and now Dave is upset. More kicks by Punk, he avoids a clothesline and hits more kicks and a forearms, slides off of a powerslam but runs into an elbow. Batista grounds Punk and hits a running kick to the head. Punk avoids a charge but Batista blocks a roll up. Punk sends Batista to the floor and hits a baseball slide, then hits a SUICIDE DIVE! Punk tosses him back in and covers for 2. Punk hits a dropkick to the back of the head for 2 more. Kick to the back by Punk. Kick to the rinbs now, and again. Batista reverses a whip and sends Punk crashing into the corner. Batista whips hard into the opposite corner now. Batista hits a suplex and gets a 2 count. Batista locks in the camel clutch now, but Punk tries to power out only for Batista to jump down on the back. Kidney shot now by Batista, and another one. He tries for another but Punk hits a forearm and a leg lariat sends Batista to the floor. Punk brings Batista back in, and knots up the thighs again. Punk hops up top and comes off with a crossbody for 2. Kick by Punk, running knee, countered, power bomb try, countered, POWERSLAM! Batista says thumbs down and gets booed. Punk grabs the top rope to block the Bomb, goes out to the apron, hits a roundhouse kick, slides in and hits the running knee in the corner, but Batista shoves him off the bulldog, but Punk comes back with a kick for 2. Punk gets him up for the GTS, Batista elbows out and hits a pair of corner clotheslines. Batista sets Punk up top and tries for a muscle buster, but Punk falls back and gets an arm bar around the ropes. SPRINGBOARD CLOTHESLINE! That gets 2. Punk grabs a submission and Batista counters to a roll up for 2. Batista grabs Punk's leg but Punk SLAPS him, only to be caught with a huge clothesline. Batista drives Punk to the corner and hits some thrusts, the ref pulls him back and Batista charges into the ring post! Punk dives off the apron and gets caught… SPINEBUSTER ON THE FLOOR! Batista rolls Punk inside and Kane attacks for the DQ @ 11:08!
Winner: Double DQ, Punk retains
Kane hits Punk with a CHOKESLAM in the ring. He has the bag and stares at it. "Is he alive? Or is he dead?" WHAM! KILLS ta camera man with a big boot!
Punk holds up the title in the ring, so Batista kills him with a Batista Bomb!
We get a video package of the Cena/JBL rivalry.
NYC Parking Lot Brawl: John Cena vs. John Bradshaw Layfield
JBL will wrestlie in his street clothes. They can't find Cena. A pipe drops somewhere and JBL is freaked. JBL gets on top of a car and Cena drives a car into it. Cena comes out and hammers JBL on the roof of the car and chokes him with some cables. He slams him on the hood and then slams the bonnet down on JBL's head a few times. Jumper cables on the testicles! Cena tosses JBL onto another car now. He has a ke and tosses it at JBL but he moves. JBL tries to drive away but Cena hammers him and smashes his head into the steering wheel and drags him out. JBL comes back with a couple of rights and whips Cena into an open car door, and it flies off. More rights by JBL, and he slams him into the car door. JBL lays Cena on top of a bonnet and hammers him with rights and slams him head-first into a car. JBL gets up on a car now and hits a swinging neckbreaker on the car for 2. More boots and rights by JBL , and he tosses Cena back first into a windshield and it very much smashes. DDT on the roof of the car! That gets 2 more. JBL slaps Cena across the back of the head. He has a tire iron but misses his shot and Cena comes back with rights until JBL boots him in the gut. JBL throws him face-first through a car window now. JBL puts Cena in the back of a car now and grabs gasoline from his own limo. The limo drives off. JBL douses the car in gasoline, and we see Cena still in there. JBL has a lighter and torches it! The car is very much burning. Security puts the car out with extinguishers and SUPER CENA LIVES! He whips JBL into a car a couple of times and then throws him in the front seat. Cena has a fork lift now and drives it into the side of the car. He then picks the car up and drives it. Cena takes it all the way out to the arena. Cena comes out and poses on the car as JBL crawls out of the car. Rights by Cena and they brawl on the entrance ramp now. They slug it out and Cena hits the PROTOPLEX on the stage! "You Can't See Me!" FIVE KNUCKLE SHUFFLE! Cena wants the FU, gets him up, rethinks it and walks to the side of the stage. JBL counters and tosses him off the stage and into the damn windshield! JBL crawls across and covers for the win @ 16:18!
Winner: JBL
Both men receive help from officials after the match. Cena's arms are all cut up but he refuses to be helped to the back. He gets a big standing ovation.
According to the text vote, 55% of fans sympathize with Edge.
We get another video package of last Friday's proceedings.
Edge launches himself at Triple H and fires off with rapid right hands. Triple side steps a charge though and sends him to the floor, then knocks him off the apron. Triple H goes out and whips Edge hard into the guardrail. Triple H drills him with some harsh elbows, then hangs him up over the top rope. In the ring, Triple H drops a couple of nasty knees right to the head, then drills Edge with a right hand and whips him to the corner and hits him with a clothesline to the back of the head. Triple H sends Edge to the floor but then gets caught with a flapjack into the guardrail. Back in and Edge beats The Game with tights and hits a spear in the corner. Edge punts him in the ribs and whips him hard into the corner. Edge brings The Game to the floor and whips him into the steel steps. Edge drives Triple H back into the ring apron then dumps him on to the announce table. Back in the ring, Edge locks in a body scissors. Triple H gains some separation with a series of right hands but runs right into a dropkick for 2. Edge tries to spear Trips off the apron but misses and goes falls to the floor! Back in and The Game gets a few kicks and fires off with a few rights but gets telegraphed only to come back with a clothesline. FACEBUSTER! That sends Edge all the way to the floor. The Game slams him into the steps, then tosses him into the ring post. Edge gets tossed back in but kicks The Game back out. Edge misses a baseball slide but ducks a clothesline and hits Triple H with an Impaler DDT on the floor! Edge rolls Triple H back into the ring and covers for a 2 count. Triple H catches Edge in mid air and catapults him into the turnbuckle and hits a DDT for a near fall. Triple H tries the Pedigree, but Edge counters into the Edge-O-Matic for 2. The Game side steps a spear and gets a roll up for 2. Edge hits him with a big boot though. Edge wants the spear, but gets caught with a SPINEBUSTER! Pedigree try, but Edge drives him back into the corner. Edge sets him up on the top turnbuckle and goes up to meet him. SUPERPLEX! Alicia Fox is out and grabs the WWE Championship. Vickie Guerrero is out and hits Alicia with a clothesline! Vickie gets in the ring with the title, but Alicia comes in and we get a CATFIGHT! Edge tries a spear to Alicia, but misses and EDGE SPEARS VICKIE! PEDIGREE! Gamer over @ 16:47!
Man, this ppv was anything BUT great. The match I was looking most forward too was a no-contest due to bleeding…...smh…….cm punk got PUNK’D out yet again, he keeps the belt by luck once again too and yes he’s a non-believeable champ because of the way they are booking him, not because of his skills. Jbl vs. Cena…..horrible……h vs. edge was marred by interference….only thing I enjoyed was matt vs. Shelton……btw kane is going back to the mask and big ups to 411 for getting their site back up quick because I know that they were getting hit up by a lot of people
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 10:54 PM
glad i didnt buy this shit!
Posted By: will (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Once again they make Punk look horrible!
Posted By: SMRPG1 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:13 PM
JBL and Cena had their best match since the I Quit match in 2005. It was brutal.
Posted By: Kevin (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:14 PM
good show overall, y2j destroyed hbk, aout time that happened. cm punk retained, awesome. cena jbl match was so funny. hhh and his damn nose retained, which really sucked. big props 411 getting the site up and runnin quick
Posted By: dingo (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I thought the show was good. Here are m,y star ratings
Tag Titles **1/2
US Title ***
ECW Title *
HBK-Jericho ****
Divas Title *
World Title **1/2
WWE Title ***1/2
Posted By: ZAR1992 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I'm thinking Kane's mask is what is in the bag. I sure hope so!
Posted By: UncleDiggs (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Edge and Punk get treated like bitches once again, for what? HHH the berrier and giving Kane his 5895674th go-nowhere push?
At least Shelton got some gold, Jericho passion'd Micheals and Morrison's free to kickass in the single's division.
Posted By: Scott (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:16 PM
glad I watched this one for free,and sorry for those who didnt tune into JustinTV FOR FREE LIVE FEED
Posted By: e2s (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Well there was some good in bad in there, terrible opener in my opinion... the US title match should have gone first. Also putting Punk in the middle of nowhere is kind of disappointing. Still it wasnt a bad PPV
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Thank you for using the term Christian Crossface in your review. Nice to see after a really crappy day (got screwed out of Dark Knight and saw Hancock...joy)
Posted By: Aaron Hubbard (Registered) on July 20, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Who the hell is Alicia Fox?
Posted By: Highscore Kid (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Not a very good wrestling show. Little dissapointed because I thought WWE were getting their act together lately. Not very different from the other PPVs this year, a couple good matches and the rest average to nonsense. Better than 2007, but nowhere near the level they could be if they dropped the stupid WWE style of wrestling.
The tag match wasn't too bad. That Jesse fella is got some talent. Not an Edgehead fan though, they were bland before and still are. Still felt like a tv match outside Jesse working in some interesting offense. Jesse and Festus have sort of grown on me.
Hardy/Benjamin was pretty good. Not the best, but still really good. The right man wins here, sorry but Matt's been rather average since his return. He looked better out there tonight, maybe it's been ring rust. I want to see more matches between them, they are the kind of guys that can do something different, but even better each time if given the chance.
Dreamer/Henry SUCKED. Colin turns heel, big deal. I almost forgot he was around. I suppose at least he might be interesting now. Dreamer went from having a nice showing at ONS to having to work with a boring stiff. Hayes was a **** for what he did, but Henry still sucks as far as his in ring skills go.
HBK/Jericho was a nice blend of wrestling and storytelling. A slightly different match in the later half, but I don't mind the ending. I'd rather see more HBK/Jericho than HBK/Cade at SummerSlam.
Natalya/McCool sucked. Nattie deserves better than this. I don't understand all the McCool praise. She's better than some of the other diva searchers, yes, but she's not that great folks. Nattie is way better, but she was trained in the non WWE style, whereas McCool was trained WWE all the way and
so it's no surprise they want her to be postergirl for the new diva belt. :-( They tried to do some storytelling at the end with the submission, but it still sucked because telling a story doesn't make a good match. A good effort that also happens to tell a good story makes a good or great match.
Batista/Punk wasn't bad, but the ending I don't know about. I guess they are building to a triple threat match. Hopefully, Punk isn't just holding the belt for Kane - and I like Kane.
Parking Lot Brawl=wrestlecrap that wasn't funny. I don't consider myself a Cena fan, but I hate JBL more.
Edge/Triple H was your typical WWE style match. Bland until the closing moments were the pace picks up. Still the SOS stuff though. Trips wins, whatever. I await Taker's return, so he and Edge can finally have the 5 star classic I know they can have. Triple H, whatever. They might as well steal Steiner from TNA when he's well, their disasters were at least badly entertaining.
2 out of 5 stars, barely.
Posted By: Unknown1 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
i take morning shits that are more interesting than this PPV
Posted By: Guest#7725 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I think this will go down as the worst ppv of the year. Nothing saved this pile o dookie. From start to finish it fucking sucked, it sucked the fuck and nobody liked it.
Posted By: Guest#7172 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
That was ASS! Thank god I didn't waste 40 dollars on that abomination.
Posted By: Chad Roth (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
My overall reaction is "bleh". I'm glad I split the cost with a few friends.
Posted By: T-Mirk (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
glad i didnt buy this shit!
Posted By: will (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Then how do you know if it were good? I am sick and tired of people who do not watch the TNA and WWE ppvs and bitch about them
Posted By: Guest#8961 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:23 PM
You mean no one has said EPIC FAIL yet?
Because this wasn't...
Posted By: Penguin (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Holy shit! The IWC is bitching! I am truly stunned.
Posted By: IWC=Douches (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM
it looks like colin delaney will join forces with mark and become the new enforcer. i mean look at colin, he is an intimidating beast.
Posted By: foghorn leghorn (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Cena's loss should satisfy the haters for the time being.
So Vickie goes from being one of the most hated characters to getting a rousing ovation when she ran out. Amazing what getting screwed over by Edge will do for a person.
Posted By: William (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I actually thought it was a great show.
Posted By: Michelle (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:26 PM
cenas arms are cut up but not his face or head? wtf?
Posted By: queen elizabeth (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:27 PM
shelton wins! shelton wins!
Posted By: Guest#0976 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Sweet for Benjamin, Hawkins and Ryder. Didn't see the show may buy the DVD event doesn't seem bad
So no rating or criticisms for me tonight
Posted By: Colin (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Why was Edge trying to spear the wedding planner anyway? Bitch was trying to help
Posted By: I'd hit it (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:30 PM
They need someone to lay down and give CM Punk a clean win because at this rate, he's not going to be a believable champ.
Posted By: ThatNickGuy (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:33 PM
CJ, the Jericho/Michaels much wasn't a no contest. It was ruled a victory for Jericho by TKO, since Michaels couldn't continue.
Posted By: Craig (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM
The Parking Lot Brawl was the most intense match I've seen in a long time. Here now is my Summerslam card
WWE Title: Triple H v Undertaker Vs Edge
2 out of 3 falls HBK VS JERICHO
World Title CM Punk Vs Batista Vs Masked Kane
That's all I got so far.
Posted By: ZAR1992 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM
I'd like to be the first to congratulate Vince Russo on being re-hired by WWE as head booker. At least we got the shocking Colin Delaney heel turn! Maybe Summerslam will have an elimination chamber pie eating contest for the title. Unfortunately someone will end up throwing a pie resulting in a DQ.
Posted By: King Draz (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:37 PM
lol at people talking about this like somehow this was a horrible PPV.
this PPV was damn good
Posted By: bdug (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:37 PM
"glad I watched this one for free,and sorry for those who didnt tune into JustinTV FOR FREE LIVE FEED
Posted By: e2s (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM"
Sorry...but Justin.tv sucks and many people there actually get caught by the cable companies. Too risky and the stream sucks with people commenting in the comment box...
Posted By: Guest#5079 (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:44 PM
You know..the people who post about how sucky this PPV was...probably didn't even watch it. You have no right to say whether this show was good...the reviewers from around the wrestling sites dictate whether the show is good or not...NOT YOU!
Posted By: FTW (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Whatcha gonna do when ass kissing and politicking adversely affects you???
Edge has gone from the greatest heel in the business to buried in a month and a half.
:(((((((((((
Posted By: Nepotism World Odor (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:55 PM
CJ, the Jericho/Michaels much wasn't a no contest. It was ruled a victory for Jericho by TKO, since Michaels couldn't continue.
Posted By: Craig (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM
yea, a mistake on my part.....i would've rather had just seen y2j beat him 123 or by submission
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM
A decent PPV with a mix of entertaining (US Title, Jericho/Michaels, WWE Title), story driven (Kane, Vicki), and, yes, some stinkers (ECW, Divas). Not the worst WWE PPV this year. Of course, that won't stop the IWC from pooping all over it and getting their panties in a bunch so they can use buzz terms like "WWE Style" and get their daily quota of bitching in. Hurray for being cynical for the sake of being cynical!
Posted By: Weston (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Michelle McCool beating Natalie Neidhart is the biggest crock of shit in the history of women's wrestling. What's next? Lilian Garcia over Beth Phoenix and Mickie James? PATHETIC
Posted By: Nepotism World Odor (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM
JR stuffed up the commentary, edge was going for the ref.
Posted By: Matt P (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:11 AM
I almost fell out my seat reading King Draz commment
Anyway bad show, definantly worst PPV of the year that and Sacrafice. Matt & Benjamin was good and Benjamin won which was great, World title match was blah didn't really like it and the DQ ending means Kane's in the title match at the next PPV. HHH vs. Edge was such a typical match it won't get more then ***. Like HHH vs. Orton at Judgment Day the match was just there to me. Unlike Judgment Day it picked up at the end and Vickie recieved a pop which was funny by how much heat she had just 2 days ago.
Nonetheless wasted my money and kinda pissed now, peace people
Posted By: Kalvin (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:14 AM
This show was very strong.
-The WWE title match wasn't "marred by interference" seeing how it wasn't a factor until the very end.
-The parking lot brawl was good for what it was.
-The World Title match was obviously just to build toward Summerslam (I will say Punk getting bombed after the match was a little much).
-The Divas title match was quick, too quick.
-Anybody who thought HBK/Y2J would end in a decisive finish is a fool and it told a great story anyway.
-The ECW title match was fine given the two men involved and at least this now gives Colin Delaney something to do (feud with Dreamer) besides get beat up. -The US title match was good and Shelton winning was a nice surprise.
-The tag title match was a good opener. I doubt their gonna split up the Miz/Morrison team seeing how they've really hit their stride as a team and have the highest viewed segment on WWE.com. I doubt WWE is going to split them up so they can languish in a midcard that now has a heel champion.
Posted By: Bill (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Those bitching about Punk being buried...I take it you didn't see the match? I only ask because he was made to look damn good throughout. Bullshit DQ finish, but that was telegraphed after what happened on Raw, and it DOESN'T detract from the story their telling with Punk. He's desperate to prove he's a legit champion and just when it looks like he might do it, events conspire against him and keep the doubt in place. It's interesting, it's character development, and it's going somewhere. One PPV match does not a career bury.
Those bitching about Edge being buried...again, I take it you never saw the actual match. HHH sold like a champ for Edge, and the match was very back and forth. Again, iffy finish, but it suits the angle and furthers the events from Smackdown. This was the first meeting in a long time between HHH and Edge, it won't be the last.
Those bitching about the match quality...I take it you only read the brief notes on 1Wrestling, after all, it's the only site not clogged up with hits. Out of 8 matches, only 2 were anything but good - the shitty ECW title match, and the Diva's title match.
We had 2 four star matches in the PLB and J2J v HBK matches - one with an excellent, well told story with an awesome finish - yes CJ, there was a finish numb nuts...then again, you'd need to see the show to know that - and the other was a stupid, but intense and wild, stunt show that was everything that type of match should be.
The opener was fast paced and exciting, Hardy v Benjamin was quality and BOTH title matches delivered great in-ring action, marred only by suspect finishes.
If you allow the finish to ruin your perception of a match, thats your problem. Both finishes were fine and dandy in my book as they continue the relative stories nicely.
Excellent show, just a pity a bunch of idiots set out to shit on it without having seen the thing, or engaging their muppet brains and thinking about what they're seeing.
That seems to be the thing to do these days though, it must be great to be so trendy as to hate everything you see. Saves the need for actual worthwhile opinion and criticism - just break out the asshole stick and be done.
Gotta love the champs of the IWC...is it any wonder we're looked down upon by those in the business?
Posted By: dennett316 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:17 AM
FTW the reviewes DO NOT dictate my opinion so don't give me that shit
I wasted 40 dollars tonight on a bland show that only had 2 good matches out of 8 so fuck the reviewers this show was pretty bad
Posted By: Kalvin (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:20 AM
I preferred the ending of Joe/Booker than Punk/Batista. At least the Joe/Booker ending was set up nicely, and there were a ton of interesting things going on. Punk/Batista just had a simple run-in, and Punk(the champ) ended up looking like a bitch yet again!!!
Posted By: Bunkhouse Buck (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:21 AM
i m sick of the whole "pink got punked out"
He IS HORRIBLE
punk is a paper champ, he sucks big time and he should thank JEFF HARDY Forever for screwing himself out
Even Rey Mysterio was more OVER and looking less ridiculous than CM Puke
Posted By: Mr Freeze (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Well, FTW, I DID review the show in a comment and I did watch it, and it was not very good. A few decent matches, yes, but average not-so-great though still bit better than 07 show stuff. Not trying to start an arguement or anything. Just a bit drunk though and hoping your post wasn't aimed at me.
Posted By: Unknown1 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:23 AM
The GAB PPV was pretty damn good, imo. Outside of Henry/Dreamer match and the heel turn that could be seen a mile away, I really enjoyed this years Bash. My favorite match was probably the main event, which was really good. HHH and Edge have great chemistry together. Surprise of the night was easily Punk/Batista. I didn't think that matchup would work, but it did. Punk was in no way made to look bad in the match,imo. Overall Grade 7.75/10. Best WWE PPV since Wrestlemania XXIV.
P.S. I agree with Kevin, the JBL/Cena match was definitely their best since Judgment Day '05.
Posted By: chesswiz77 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:25 AM
"I'd like to be the first to congratulate Vince Russo on being re-hired by WWE as head booker. At least we got the shocking Colin Delaney heel turn! Maybe Summerslam will have an elimination chamber pie eating contest for the title. Unfortunately someone will end up throwing a pie resulting in a DQ."
Exactly what about this has the mark of Vince Russo on it? Was a pregnancy announcement? A celebrity winning a world title? A swerve anyone could see a mile away? Matches under 3 minutes? Any sort of item on a pole? Someone winning a world title as part of a ruse to get the world title off of him? What?
Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM
I can't believe I wasted money on this piece of crap ppv.
Posted By: Marcel (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:30 AM
This PPV was horrible. That JBL/Cena crap was the worst match of the year. It's sad that a great Jericho/HBK match got lost in the shuffle.
Posted By: Joseph Lee (Registered) on July 21, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Its good to see some unbiased commentary on this show whether you liked it or not people are at least giving good reasons for it whether you agree or not. Another site just loves everything Vince does and won't stop sucking on his you know what while keep telling everyone how much TNA sucks without even needing to mention TNA.
Not saying this wasn't a good show but at least everyone isn't fawning over it like the other site does for everything Vince puts out.
Posted By: Guest#5691 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM
I can't believe I wasted my time reading these comments. Then again, dennett316 had the best analysis on CM Punk...best comment ever.
Posted By: Guest#7611 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Lol colin delaney heel turn! Omg wat a WWE gonna do now when The Ultimate Jobber is a hell!John Cena JBL was hard though cena was the more dominant untl the push. CM Punk looked like a wimp to bastista
Posted By: Haza (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 01:02 AM
Stop buying these ppvs so they will get HHH out of the title scene. Honestly, when is the last time he has had a memorable match? When is the last time he has come out of his shell and performed a new move? When is the last time he has delivered a thought provoking interview?
Also, this whole Edge/Vickie storyline is destroying Edge's character. He should either be a loner, or the leader of a cool faction, not of all these dorks.
Raise your hand if you have ever tuned in or bought a ppv to see Vickie... Zero, good, so get her off TV.
Posted By: D-Steak (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 01:04 AM
Didn't see it...Sounds like it was good, not great.
I'm disappointed that Punk didn't win cleanly but I'm also glad he wasn't outright pinned and didn't get beaten up any worse than Batista.
Cena/JBL sounded fun and interesting. This is the type of thing these two are stronger at...I have no desire to see these two in a more straight up wrestling match...to be brutally honest, they suck at it when they go against each other. There are guys on the card who match up better in terms of technical chemistry that fill the role nicely...namely Michaels and Jericho, who seem to have absolutely delivered the goods. I didn't doubt it for a second.
So Matt Hardy loses the US championship...now Shelton Benjamin can bring the title back to Smackdown, make another attempt at a push (hopefully this time it'll stick), and Hardy can chase Mark Henry for the ECW title (and probably have some kick ass encounters with John Morrison along the way). Everyone's more or less happy.
Natalya will win the Diva belt eventually...WWE has been taking a lot of cues from TNA's women lately, and that'll probably include booking the champion. Michelle McCool wins it first, but Nattie will hold it longer.
I guess the biggest disappointment here would be that Edge has become the first in probably a long line of potential Smackdown victims for Triple H, before he (maybe) decides he wants some time off to be with his new kid. You really have to feel for Edge...I think his major selling point for going to Smackdown (not unlike the Undertaker) was to get away from Triple H and have some real success at the top, and now who knows when he'll see that kind of success again.
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 01:16 AM
Im so glad they put the broken-down, roided-out, injury prone 44 year-old over the drug-free, fresh-faced young talent. Such a smart move protecting a washed up junkie at the expense of a potential franchise player in his late 20s
Posted By: Wooder (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:11 AM
Is it me or has the HBK "told a story" at every PPV match since WM24. Quit throwing the phrase around like it only applied to HBK
Posted By: Colin (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:22 AM
Can someone please explain to me the backwards ass logic that dictates a person is only a member of the "IWC" if he doesn't like something?
Are the rest of you using some technology besides the INTERNET to view this site?
Do you not consider the shows we are talking about to be WRESTLING?
Or do you just not feel like you belong to a COMMUNITY that talks about it?
Seriously, someone explain this to me like an adult, because I don't speak retard.
Posted By: MP (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:23 AM
I watched the PPV. I spent the money. And overall I have to say they really had absolutely no clue how to handle most of the endings of these matches. Now, there's a few people going on and on about IWC people complaining about anything but.. isn't that our right if we feel that way? I paid for the event, and it stunk. Not the worst PPV of all time, not necessarily at the end of 2008 the worst PPV of the year, but it wasn't what I hoped for with the constant screwy finishes, nonsensical heel turns, and Dreamer/Henry and Hardy/Benjamin which were ALREADY shown on FREE TV with THE SAME RESULT - Henry and Benjamin won the free matches CLEAN so why pay for them for the same exact result? Paydirt pin, Slam pin. Looks like Vickie's back in a wheelchair for another 6 months from the Spear. Cena/JBL was WrestleCrap, I agree. JBL got made to look like a loser even in victory as it looked like he just got a lucky shot, and he had to be helped out when Cena walked out on his own! HBK/Jericho saved the show from being a wash, why these two men aren't carrying world titles is beyond me. CM Punk got made to look like a complete fool with the finish, the Kane attack and then Batista's attack.. I admire him for standing up and holding up the belt after without selling the Batista Bomb like death because it was ridiculous. Can I have my $40 back please?
Posted By: Black Scorpion (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:30 AM
I honestly liked the opening tag, the benjamin/hardy match, and even the parking lot brawl was intense and a real throwback. The rest, however, was way too average. I like McCool going over but the match was the worst. Edge/HHH and Punk/Batista weren't good title matches, either. I'm sad I spent 40 on this.
Posted By: Bernie (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:34 AM
Stop buying these ppvs so they will get HHH out of the title scene.
From the majority of comments here, I'd say a lot of people already have stopped buying the PPVs. And can we give up on trying to change each others' opinions? Some people will like the PPV, some people will hate it. It's the same with EVERY show. Different strokes for different folks and all that good stuff. One person's Flair/Steamboat is another person's high school gym opener. I actually thought the show was decent. HBK/Y2J was a great build to a SS blow off, Punk looked very strong in his match, but like a bitch after, and a HHH win in an even match is NOT a burial. Overall, a decent show.
Oh yeah, and does CM Punk look like the arsonist/killer from the Bruce Willis movie "Hostage" or is it just me.
Posted By: MasterShake (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:02 AM
Were any of you *around* prior to the year 2000? I swear, some folks don't know how good we have it these days. A PPV doesn't have two **** matches and it automatically sucks, it seems. THis show had a **** match, two *** or over matches - the ME and the US title match, one debatably over *** - the Parking Lot Brawl - plus a bunch of other well-put together card filler. Back in the late '90s people would be talking about a card like that in terms of the show of the year.
Posted By: Ian (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:07 AM
I was at the event tonight in fact i was in the 3rd row and was center of the ring so the camera was on me the whole time. i was wearing a black UFC hat and had the HHH shirt on. I started a few chants including a "we want Horny", "we want Mercury", "whats in the bag" and "Chris Benoit" when the Crippler was being applied. i enjoyed the event
Posted By: Iceberg (Registered) on July 21, 2008 at 03:20 AM
I paid my $40 therefore I feel I deserve to actually put forth comment about it. I really enjoyed the show. Was surprised with Benjamin finally being pushed again, but felt he really deserved it and it was a really good match. I kind of would like to have seen Miz and Morrison keep their titles because I didn't think anyone else in the match was deserving. Although I do like Jesse, just can't get behind the whole festus thing really. I think Jesse learned a great deal from his dad, and would like to see him repackaged some other way. Maybe with Cody and Dibiase somehow. I want a new stable. Let Jesse start the New Freebirds.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:50 AM
Who the hell is Alicia Fox?
Posted By: Highscore Kid (Guest) on July 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Just in case you haven't done YOUR part..by actually watching Smackdown the last several weeks, how could you not miss hearing JR/Mick Foley mention " the wedding planner " several times of her interference?
BTW, how the fuck does this make Vickie Guerrero face? Gee, let's look at this realistically. Your fat-whore of a boss has been a major bitch to you all year. Are you going to actually feel sorry for her for having her early marriage ruined? HELL NO!
But anyway, I hope it doesn't create Vickie/Alicia matches. Alicia is trained. Vickie isn't. That should be enough reason not too.
Posted By: Quatah85 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:51 AM
i live 5 minutes from the nassau coliseum. when tix went on sale, i told my gf to pass on grabbing a pair cuz GAB WWE style usually sux. this whole week i was kicking myself for not going cuz the card looked great. now i read this and am glad i stuck with my original decision. this felt like a TNA ppv.
Posted By: pat (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:58 AM
I thought it was kind of funny when the announcers kept using MMA terms like "working past the half guard" or "working the ground and pound"
Nobody's going to confuse the WWE for MMA guys...give it up.
Posted By: Rod Oracheski (Registered) on July 21, 2008 at 03:59 AM
Time for a Michaels/Jericho Hell In A Cell
Posted By: guest (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:00 AM
Michelle McCool beating Natalie Neidhart is the biggest crock of shit in the history of women's wrestling. What's next? Lilian Garcia over Beth Phoenix and Mickie James? PATHETIC
Posted By: Nepotism World Odor (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Cool it. It's not like you're watching Maria Kanellis defeat Natalya Neidhart ( which might happen in the very near future if you're apart of the WWE writing team ). I didn't want Michelle to win, but she's pretty darn decent in the ring out of all the former Diva Search competitors included. And even more so athletic than most of the guys.
So it's nothing really crazy in terms of booking.
BUT for four minutes? Are they fucking kidding?
Posted By: Quatah85 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:02 AM
am i the only who finds natalya sexy?
Posted By: pat (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:02 AM
Meh, as much as I'd like to be all anti-comformist and tell the folks to shove their repetitive crap, I almost have to agree here. Nothing spectacular at all here. Way too many goofy finishes what with the DQ's and the interferences.
Not to forget that the entire flavor of the PPV was ruined by the vast injustice of Miz & Morrison losing the WTTT. >:O Hopefully they'll reclaim the straps from those edge guys in a brief while. I don't want to imagine a Dirt Sheet episode which doesn't end the exact right way.
Posted By: Mooooooooo (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:15 AM
Two new champions that make sense, a JBL victory over Cena that's justifiable because Cena dominated him for months and only lost because he made a mistake and met glass, a Jericho victory at long last, and the champs retain.
I've seen worse.
Posted By: T.G. Corke (Registered) on July 21, 2008 at 04:35 AM
Was at a PPV Party at a local bar tonight. Not the best but not the worst either. WWE probably will deem it okay if it sets up something at Summerslam.
Okay tag match to start. Probably good that Hawkins pinned Jesse and does not get a rub from pinning a former ECW champ or his partner.
I knew Matt/Shelton would be a good match, just surprised that Shelton won it tonight after winning a non-title affair 2 weeks ago. So much for conventional wisdom.
ECW Title was the worst match of the night, not that I was expecting these guys to work well together. I'm no fan of Henry but I should have seen him turn Delaney to his side (guess his old gimmick hit it even worse than I thought).
Jericho/Michaels was good but dragged on too long with the bloody eye bit, probably to sell Michaels's warrior spirit yet again, not that it isn't established every week.
I'm probably the only Michelle McCool fan on this site but a good match that I wish had gone 10 minutes instead of 5. A classic end showing Natalya's cockiness costing her the title and Michelle looks like a million bucks winning on the ground against a Hart. Michelle is better than people realize (you can be beautiful and tough as well unlike stereotypes would have you believe) but Jericho's interruption obviously didn't help her case to be a good champion(or her celebration). Here's hoping they get more time next time out and Natalya's time will come this year to be sure. They wanted to prove they and their brand were worthy of a new belt, to be certain.
I fully expected Kane to attack Punk and Batista. Good match and I think Kane will bully his insane self into the title picture come Summerslam.
The Parking Lot Brawl was as brutal and outrageous as we thought and then some, almost too crazy for the faint at heart. One mistake costs Cena and JBL finally beats his old foe. Not a fan of either man but this over-the-top match stole the show tonight. We'll see if Cena can get cheers against other heels (a jobber gets cheers against JBL, after all). I also wonder if JBL's bad back and Cena's bad pec got messed up (probably not).
HHH/Edge fell short of expectations in my opinion, not that I'm a big fan of either. Neither man seemed to be comfortable working with the other. Vickie showing up was obvious and Edge spearing her got a huge pop where I was. Finish establishes Edge vs. Vickie without making it look like HHH needs help against Edge, not something you would do to a man of his stature for several reasons (not just the one we complain about either). Careful WWE, Edge just might get cheered against Vickie.
Like I said, not the worst ever, just a little flat. Probably meant to set up Summerslam more than anything else.
Posted By: 10127 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:35 AM
Does anyone even read this far down in the comments?
Okay, I kinda suspected Bejamin and the Edgeheads would win. They want to get the Smackdown titles back on smackdown before ECW moves to team with Raw. I know they keep pushing it back but now they are free to do it at any time. Matt is free now to chase the ECW title. I don't know what Miz and Morrison will do however. They are a great tag team and with the WWE lacking in good tag teams it would seem foolish to split them up at this stage. Especially as they are on ECW, with a Heel champ and no other titles there.
What they could perhaps do is have them chase Hawkins and Ryder only to be screwed out of the titles and make a bit of a face turn, ready for them to move with ECW to raw and then they can go for the other tag titles.
Having JBL actually get a good win over Cena was a great plan as was having Jericho pick up the win over Michaels. Both moves the fued on and gives credibility to Raws top heels, which is very much needed after so many face vs face headliners of the past.
Diva title match was as pointless as the title itself. But at least it was short. I have no idea how Colin Delaney is going to work as a Mark Henry supporting Heel. Hopefully it'll lead away from Henry and just towards a Delaney/Dreamer fued leaving Henry free to face Matt Hardy.
Punk does need a cleaner win sometime soon, but I suspect Kane will be the one to lay down for him. Punk didn't look weak in the match mind, but the ending won't help his credibility as it is the main thing people will see and judge him on. A return to the masked Kane would be pretty cool. Although, what's he going to do about the hair?
I think for the sake of the story HHH did need to retain the title against Edge. I am sure Edge will have the title again and probably not too far down the road but first we have to see how his world collapses courtesy of the cerebral assassin.
Posted By: Fenris (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 06:04 AM
It was a decent show, nothing great about it.
Tag Title match - **
Us Title - **1/2
ECW Title - *
HBK-Y2J - ***1/2
Womens title - *
World Title - **1/2
Cena, JBL - **
HHH, Edge - ***
The story in te HBK/Y2J match was great, roll on there 2/3 falls match at summerslam hopefully.
Punk looked really good in the match, it was heading for ***`s until the finish, shame he got punked by Batista tho.
HHH had his usual solid but not great main event.
Show gets a 6.5/10 from me.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 06:33 AM
Punk is totally turning heel by the way. There's no way they can keep him as that goody-two-shoes/I-just-want-to-compete champion when he eats like three finishers and is left laid out in the ring every night.
Posted By: Waaa (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 07:32 AM
I'm not 100% against the way the Punk/Batista match ended because I think they're slow building a Punk heel turn, BUT I have a huge problem with WWE basically treating all three of their main champions as side acts tonight.
Henry d. Dreamer due to Colin Delaney
Punk and Batista have double DQ because of Kane, and Batista punks out the champ afterwards.
H beats Edge after Edge spears Vicki
Basically you kept the focus off all three of your champions, not something I'm in favor of.
Posted By: Joe Roche (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 08:42 AM
I just wanna see cm get a nice, clean win
Posted By: cj (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 09:14 AM
I did not watch the ppv but it sounds like I good show. I felt like this was just a ppv that would extend to Summerslam where all these feuds would blow off.
Expect Edge as husband to take over as SD GM while Vickie recuperates from the spear. Alicia will be his assistant like Tiffany on ECW while Vickie recovers. This will set up three or four more matches between Edge and HHH. Expect Edge to take the title at Summerslam.
Y2J and HBK will have 1 more match (first blood?).
Punk was made to look week because they are booking him to try and prove he is a worthy champion. Batista and Kane will be mired in a feud until Randy comes back to finish the "better than Evolution stable he talked about at 1 night stand"
Michelle being champ makes more sense because she epitomizes being a diva more than Nattie. I don't know why everyone is mad about the made up women's title belt, they barely use the other one.
The only match I have a problem with is MNM 2 losing to Hawkins and Ryder. Unless The only reason it makes sense is to make the Hardys feud with them.
Chavo will probably leave the Familia so replacing him with Shelton as US Champ would make sense. With all the Champs in the Familia (expect Alicia to get the diva title somewhere around Survivor Series) Hawkins and Ryder with the Tag and Edge with the WWE title. It will make the stable dominant until Mania for the blow off (Vickie out of Coma, HHH gets revenge)
Posted By: Tom (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 09:21 AM
who the fuck in Alicia Fox??? WTF did I miss (besides this shitastic PPV)?
Posted By: jackdespenser (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 09:55 AM
I agree with jbardo, Shawn and Jericho deserve to have a 2 out of 3 falls match at Summerslam. Just imagine what kind of classic that could be if given about 25 30 minutes. It could be MOTY
Posted By: ZAR1992 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 10:26 AM
ALICIA FOX IS HOT!
Posted By: steve (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Glad I saved my money. I had a feeling some of these matches will be repeated for Summerslam and be more conclusive. I was very close to buying this, but kept thinking Summerslam will deliver and this may not. When is the last time a heel won a main event? (going on last) I thought this may be the place to do it since the LI sometimes cheers for heels.
Posted By: joe (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 11:07 AM
am i the only who finds natalya sexy?
Posted By: pat (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:02 AM
yes, next caller...
Posted By: yo mama (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 11:10 AM
The big difference between a pre2000 1994-1999 PPV and a 2008 PPV is that the talent pool now versus than is much better and more talented wrestling-wise. Back than you had the guys who could deliver, and those who were on the card because they needed to fill it up. Now you can't even get everyone who deserves to be on a PPV on it. But even so, outside a select few boring stiffs (Khali, Henry, Boogeyman and V if they return), you have a damn good talented roster who could deliver a card full of near 3 to 4 star matches with no problem. It could be a lot better wrestling-wise, more great stuff and less of the just solid stuff that we've been getting for awhile at 40 bucks a show.
Posted By: Unknown1 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Yah know what I hate, the whiney bitches that post about how now deserves an opinion unless they've seen the pay per veiw. Wake up jackasses, that's what the review Yeh know what I hate, whiney bitches; whiney bitches that post about how nobody deserves an opinion, unless they've seen the pay per view. Wake up jackasses. That's what the review is for, so you can formulate an opinion. Nobody wants to hear your millionth complaint about everybody else. Shut up or contribute to the conversation you self-important cock eaters. Maybe the WWE should listen to the fans, daaarrrr marketers paying attention to there target audience? Well that’s a radical crazy line of thinking. Look almost nobody casually watches wresting; you’re either a fan or your embarrassed by it, think about that.
Posted By: TheParagon (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM
"Does anyone even read this far down in the comments?"
No.
Posted By: But How? (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Wow, faceless people bitching about a fake entertainment program.
TURN IT OFF IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT...I did, and I'm far happier.
411 recaps > the real thing
Posted By: Guest#1910 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM
"am i the only who finds natalya sexy?
Posted By: pat (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 04:02 AM"
Nope. Nothing wrong with her as far as I can see.
Posted By: Unknown1 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Once again Punk proves he can't hang with the big boys! Hey stupid pack your shit and get back to the indys.
Posted By: VKM (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 01:19 PM
Aside from the ECW match until Colin's heel turn and the divas match I was entertained, which is all I can ask for, so thumbs up.
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 01:20 PM
It was funny when Mike Adamle said "World's Strongest Slam!" when Mark Henry just splashed Tommy Dreamer, then Tazz corrects him by saying "I believe that was just a body splash Mike."
Posted By: knockout (Registered) on July 21, 2008 at 01:53 PM
I really thought the worst was yet to come for y2j but it was a big turn around to see shawn still getting up the show stopper is still here i know y2j said he is over but its not but how ever i would love to see hbk on s.d. with his only friend and bring taker to raw witch has been a rumor ever since that screw job from edge and speekin for edge i really thought the final heel was going to win 2 reason one he was heel 2 i thought cause of hawkins and ryider winning and they were confuessed at the wedding i thought they would screw the game or beat up the game and edge would of lost anyways but it will be batista at next ppv along probably with kane jbl and cena
Posted By: Jeremy GB (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Its about bloody time Shelton got a push!
Posted By: SnakEater (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:29 PM
i actually thought the ppv might have been good.
but i didn't see it. i only read this report. man, it sucks not seeing any match ratings in a match report...why even read the report?
/Hiro
Posted By: Hiro (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 02:32 PM
Alicia Fox = a fake-@$$ Kristal Marshall
Posted By: yo mama (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:07 PM
anything with vickie as you fem fatale is a joke! this was crap and my last buy for awhile!
Posted By: Dr Bob Onit (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:17 PM
I laugh at people who actually buy PPV's when you can watch them only for free.
Posted By: Guest#0679 (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:18 PM
haha TheParagon, you know the whiney bitches you complain about? well congratulations, you're one of them!
Posted By: Syphilis (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:31 PM
i havent watched wrestling in 7-8 months now.i just visited 411 today to take a peak at last nights ppv...BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH !!!bring back gangrel.get road warrior animal involved.bring up boogeyman.bring back ariel with kevin thorn.keep kevin thorn as vampire or bring him back as mordecai.pay top dollars to get dustin back as goldust.bring back greg helms as hurricane when he does come back.if any of these things were to happen,then ill watch wrestling again.
Posted By: charger (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 05:38 PM
If CM Punk DOES turn heel, look for Batista to get a COKE tattoo because faces drink Coke, heels drink Pepsi.
Posted By: Nepotism World Odor (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 06:01 PM
Come on people, I think this PPV was better than a lot of you are making out. Ok it wasn't amazing, but it was better than I thought it was going to be. Every PPV isn't going to be top quality because there are so many these days, therefore expectations shouldn't be so high all the time.
It wasn't worth $40, but it was still entertaining, which is why I'm so glad I live in the UK because I got to watch it for free haha!
Posted By: Woz8005 (Registered) on July 21, 2008 at 06:02 PM
Thank you for using the term Christian Crossface in your review. Nice to see after a really crappy day (got screwed out of Dark Knight and saw Hancock...joy)
Posted By: Aaron Hubbard (Registered) on July 20, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Why call it that? It's the crippler crossface, and should be called nothing else. You people are hyper sensative. Rremember Chris Benoit for what he did in the wrestling business and get past the point that he made one extremely bad choice. You ALL were fans of the guy at one point or another. Not many wrestlers get to say that. Not many wrestlers work that hard. Remember the good things and not the bad and life will be much better to you folks.
Posted By: hunter (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Once again triple tosser gets a win HE DONT NEED ... go home and fuck steph and get the fuck off my tele
Posted By: HHH Hater (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Alicia Fox = a fake-@$$ Kristal Marshall
Posted By: yo mama (Guest) on July 21, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Um.. since when the fuck did Kristal Marshall do anything worthwhile in WWE anyway to have someone be a faux version of her?
Victoria Crawford is well suited for the role, even though I prefer her better as babyface. =)
With them dig ole bitties.
Posted By: Quatah85 (Guest) on July 22, 2008 at 04:05 PM
hunter you and the other tools don't stop defending a guy who killed his family are the reason people think so lowly of wrestling fans. He doesn't get to be honored just because he had a great wrestling career. Its hard to be a fan of someone who did the things he did.
Posted By: oh here we go (Guest) on July 22, 2008 at 07:28 PM
Yeah no kidding Joe/Booker at least had interesting outside interference. Let me see Sting or Vickie Guerrero. This is why I mock people who hate these endings I mean this for both companies you people just don't get how to set up rematches or further storylines you think it should always be settled in one night in a feud which is why I'm glad some of you never book wrestling shows because you just don't get it.
Posted By: Paul (Guest) on July 23, 2008 at 01:39 PM
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