411’s WWE Unforgiven Report 9.07.08
Posted by Larry Csonka on 09.07.2008
HBK destroys Chris Jericho, Matt Hardy wins the ECW Title, Randy Orton takes CM Punk out of the Scramble match and Chris Jericho wins the World Title. Yes you read that right.
Remember to send your thoughts on the show: a score from 1-10, match of the night and trash of the night!
~WWE UNFORGIVEN 2008~
-Wacky PPV themed video runs.
-The announce teams welcome us to the show, run down the main matches and here we go!
Matt Hardy and The Miz will begin things. They do some mat work to kick things off. Matt with a shoulder block and a side headlock takedown on Miz. Miz escapes, gets his own headlock takedown, Matt gets to his feet and then gets tossed to the corner. Miz counters a bulldog, misses his corner clothesline and Matt then grabs his legs and gets a sit down powerbomb for 2. A big clothesline by Matt gets another cover for 2. Miz pulls Matt towards the ropes, cross face shots and then the leap over neck snap off the ropes by Miz gets 2. Matt fights back, rights to Miz, off the ropes and a sunset flip by Matt for 2. Clothesline by Miz and a cover for 2. Back elbow by Miz, climbs to the top by Matt snags him p and looks for a razor's edge, escape, REALITY CHECK by Miz but Matt rolls to the floor. Miz rolls him back into the ring and covers for 2.
And the third man in is…Chavo Guerrero. Matt misses a 2nd rope leg drop as Chavo sneaks down to the ring. He pulls Miz to the floor, FROG SPLASH on Matt! 1…2…3! Chavo is the interim champion. Chavo lays the boots to Matt, drops Miz with a clothesline and then slams him to the corner. Miz battles back, gets the corner clothesline and covers Chavo for 2. Rolling Liger kick by Chavo and then a plancha to Miz. Matt is on the apron and then to the floor, tosses Chavo back in and gets a slam. Running elbow drop and a cover for 2. Rights by Chavo, nails Miz who is up top. Chavo up as well, Matt over and gets kicked away. Chavo tossed off, Miz gets a cross body to both, and covers matt for 2! Clothesline by Matt to Miz and then to Chavo. A backdrop follows as Matt runs wild. Bulldog/clothesline Combo. Side effect on Chavo! 1…2…3! Matt is the interim champion. Crowd loves that, Mat tosses Chavo to the floor, and now works a chinlock on Miz. Miz escapes, gets an arm drag and Chavo is back in.
The fourth man is Mark Henry. Chavo tries to rally the troops against Henry, they wait for him to enter and they attack him. They have him in the corner but he tosses them off. Clotheslines by Henry, hip toss to Chavo. Press slam to Matt! Body attack on Miz. World's Strongest Slam on Chavo and that is all. Mark Henry is the interim champion. Slam on Miz by Henry, rights by Matt in Henry now. Twist of fate countered, Matt tries a springboard but is swatted down by Henry. Henry beats down Miz, Chavo is back in and leaps into a bear hug. Chavo fights, Matt back in and up top…but leaps into a bear hug by Henry. He fights, Henry slams him down and then back to the bear hug.
The final man is Finlay. He rushes down, unloads on Henry and gets a DDT! 1…2..NO! Another DDT and another cover for 2. Bear hug on Finlay as we have 4:30 left in the match. Hornswoggle is in, SHACKALACKI SHOT by Finlay! Matt and Finlay toss Henry! Celtic Cross by Finlay! 1…2…3! Finlay is the interim champion. Miz up top and gets a missile dropkick on Finlay. Twist of fate by Matt! He pins Miz! Matt is the interim champion. 3:00 left, Henry is back in and Chavo frog splashes Miz and only gets 2 as Matt breaks it up. Henry starts to clean house, Miz is busted open I see. World's Strongest Slam on Chavo by Henry, and Matt makes the save. The slam on Finlay, Matt makes the save. Miz rolls up Matt, but Henry breaks that up. Henry catches Chavo, SLAM on Chavo! Matt breaks that up. Finaly rolls up Matt for 2! Henry gets a boot to Finlay, splash on Miz but Matt breaks it up again! Finlay covers Miz for 2 as it is broken up. Matt tosses Chavo, Henry splashes Finlay for 2 as Matt breaks it up. Miz tossed to the floor, Chavo as well. Finlay slams Matt, Chavo back in and they all keep breaking up pins and MATT WINS!
Winner and NEW ECW CHAMPION Matt Hardy @ 20:00 via pin
- Good work by all, good timing and even though it was filled with chaos, it was designed that way and came off well. This was a good opener.
Rating: **¾
-We get a WrestleMania 25 video package.
-Matt and Jeff celebrate backstage and Matt says he wants Jeff to win for the clean sweep.
Cody and JTG to begin. To the corner and Cody hides in the ropes. Rights by JTG now, off the ropes and an uppercut and dropkick by JTG. DiBiase and Shad in, and Shad clotheslines the champs to the floor. Shad then backdrops JTG onto the champs, who were still on the floor. Back in and JTG covers Cody for 2. Cody slams JTG to the corner, tags in DiBiase and he takes a hip toss. Tag to Shad, and he tosses JTG onto DiBiase and Shad covers for 2. To the corner and Shad misses a clothesline. DiBiase off the ropes and into a powerslam by Shad. Rolling dice elbow drop by Shad gets 2. DiBiase with a boot, knee to the gut and a tag to Cody. Rights to Shad, tries to shoot him off the ropes, but Shad slingshots JTG into a shoulder block on Cody and that gets 2. Cody begs off, but then pokes JTG in the eyes. To the floor and the double team costs JTG as he eats a clothesline. Back into the ring and Cody works the arm of JTG. JTG tries to fight back with kicks, tag to DiBiase and he goes on the attack of the arm. 2nd rope fist drop by Cody, lays the boots to JTG and then wraps the arm in the ropes and keeps control. DiBiase stuns the arm off the ropes, and Cody covers for 2. Cody continues his work of the arm, JTG fights back with rights but takes a side Russian leg sweep. Knee drop by Cody, tag to DiBiase and then a dropkick by DiBiase connects. He'll work the arm with kicks and then the wristlock, JTG fights to his feet and gets a backdrop suplex to break that up. Both men are down, Cody nails Shad and they double team JTG. Cody covers for 2. JTG fights back with kicks, rights by Cody keeps him down. Snap mare by Cody and back to the arm he goes. JTG tries again to fight to his feet, escapes with rights, out of the suplex and is then slammed down by Cody. Cody up top and MISSES the MOONSAULT! BOTH men are down, looking for tags and Shad is in! He cleans house on both men. Corner attacks and a snake eyes to DiBiase. Forearm smash to DiBiase gets 2 as Cody makes the save. JTG takes Cody down, but as JTG gets sent to the corner Cody gets a DDT on Shad for 2 as Shad gets a leg on the ropes. Cody tags in, clothesline by Shad! Tag to JTG, DiBiase in and JTG gets a roll up on Cody, reversed by DiBiase and they steal the win!
Winners: Ted DiBiase and Cody Rhodes @ 11:55 via pin
- Not bad, but a bit slow and the heat on JTG felt like it lasted too long.
Rating: *¾
-They brawl after the match and a large Samoan man enters the ring! He helps the champs clear the ring and they stand tall. I am not sure who that is off hand as I don't recall Afa Jr being that large. But that makes the most sense.
-HBK meets with the doctor and gets taped up and reminded of the dangers of doing the match tonight.
-We get a video package for HBK vs. Jericho.
Unsanctioned Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho The only way to win is by pin or submission.
HBK walks to the ring showing no emotion with his left arm heavily taped up. HBK charges in and it is a FIGHT! Wild punches by HBK and kicks follow. He takes a boot off and NAILS Jericho over the head with it! And again! A 3rd time sends Jericho to the floor. They brawl into the crowd now and rights by HBK as he favors the inured left arm. Back ringside and HBK catapults Jericho into the steel post. HBK searches under the ring for toys, and then gets a chair from ringside. He misses Jericho and hits the post, allowing Jericho to slam HBK to the announce table. Jericho gets a DDT on the floor and he looks for toys. He gets a table and then another one. He slams one of the tables onto HBK and then sets up a table. Jericho looks for a powerbomb, but instead falls back and drops HBK face first onto the ring apron. Back into the ring they go and Jericho has a chair. A shot to the gut by Jericho and then one to the back. Backdrop suplex by Jericho, grabs the chair again and wedges it in the corner. Jericho grabs HBK and delivers forearm shots. Rights follow, boots and then chokes out HBK. Jericho tries to send HBK to the chair, but HBK sends him to the steel post. Jericho on the apron, they brawl and Jericho looks for a suplex. Jericho with rights, has HBK up but he makes the apron. HBK tosses Jericho into the ring and follows. Rights by HBK, off the ropes and the flying forearm by HBK. Kip up and HBK chokes out Jericho! HBK now goes up top and the big elbow connects. VINTAGE HBK!
We're 10-minutes in now and HBK tunes up the band, holds up on the superkick and then starts to pummel Jericho with rights! HBK with the rear crucifix and delivers some MMA style elbows. HBK drops into the cross face now, but Jericho sends HBK into the chair in the corner, and that hurts the previously injured eye of HBK. Mounted rights by Jericho, he chokes out HBK and then rips at the eye. Rights and jabs by Jericho, slaps follow but that fires up HBK! Rights by HBK, and Jericho sends HBK into the steel chair but HBK tackles him and then gets a clothesline. HBK tries a piledriver, countered into the walls of Jericho! HBK makes the ropes, but Jericho refuses to break because he doesn't have too! HBK hangs from the apron in the hold and snags up a fire extinguisher from ringside, shoots it and blinds Jericho with it! Jericho can't see, HBK has the extinguisher and NAILS Jericho with it, sending him to the floor. To the floor goes HBK, he slams Jericho into the ringside barrier in the isle. And again HBK send shim to the barrier. To the ramp they go and a suplex by HBK. HBK holds his arm and screams in pain, here comes Lance Cade and HBK beats him down. Jericho tries to escape back to the ring by HBK follows and levels him with a clothesline. Cade nails the arm of HBK and then turns him inside out with a lariat! They lay HBK by the post, headfirst and wrap the arm around the post, and Cade with the kick to the arm. Cade pulls HBK up, holds him and Jericho with slaps. Jericho is bleeding from the elbow as he punishes the arm of HBK. Jericho is bleeding from the nose as well as Cade hands him a chair and he nails the arm of HBK. Cade beats down HBK, holds the arm and Jericho with another chair shot to the injured arm. They wrap the arm in the chair, Cade holds HBK down and Jericho goes up top. HBK kicks Cade into the ropes and crotches Jericho. SUPERKICK to Cade!
We're 20-minutes in now and HBK with the chair and NAILS Jericho who falls from the top rope and THROUGH the table that was set up on the floor earlier. HBK to the floor with the chair and with one arm swings away at Jericho! HBK now dismantles an announce table and lays Lance Cade on it. HBK goes back in the ring and to the top rope, no, back down and starts to kick Jericho in the face. He then lays Jericho on the table on top of Cade! HBK up top…ELBOW DROP TO BOTH MEN THROUGH THE TABLE! HBK is up and then drops to the floor and appears to be weeping. He gets to his feet and drags Jericho back to the ring. HBK removes his belt now and WHIPS JERICHO! The ref keeps asking what he is doing and HBK continues to whip Jericho! He then wraps the belt around his hand and wraps up Jericho and starts to PUMMLE Jericho with lefts right in the eye of Jericho! Jericho appears to be out of it and lays motionless on the mat as HBK goes back on the attack. The referee stops the match.
Winner: HBK @ 28:00 via Referee Stoppage
- HBK should win some sort of Emmy, because the man gets across so much emotion just through the look on his face. An amazing performance once again from HBK as they played off of the angle leading in very well and continued the trend of making the match feel completely different from anything else on the card. The stoppage fell flat, partly because the audience isn't educated on it and partly because they announced that "The only way to win is by pin or submission." But overall this was great stuff that will be remembered for a good while.
Rating: ****½
-HBK moves the ref away and starts to punish Jericho even more. The ref pulls HBK off of Jericho and HBK then SUPERKICKS THE REFEREE! More refs are out as the crowd chants for HBK. He has this crazed look on his face, which turns to sadness. HBK drops to his knees as commentary asks if God could ever forgive HBK for what he has done.
-Rhodes, DiBiase and the new Samoan talk as Randy Orton arrives. This is MANU, son of Afa of the wild Samoans. Manu says not to nock the tag team champions because they are in a different class. Orton says what they did took skill, but the win was all luck. Cryme Tyme learned on the streets, but they have all of the ability. Why should you be proud? Keep telling yourselves how you think you accomplished something. Luck runs out, ability lives on, trust him on that. He is NOT impressed at all.
Jeff Hardy and Shelton Benjamin will begin the match. They show a pre-taped interview with Benjamin from earlier today. He's the gold standard and all of that. They both try roll ups early, shoulder block by Benjamin and a cover for 2. Jeff with a roll up for 2. To the corner, and a sunset flip by Jeff for 2. Side headlock takedown by Benjamin, Jeff to his feet and rights follow. Benjamin misses the turning kick, but he then powerbombs Jeff into the corner and covers for 2. Knee strikes to the head by Benjamin, a snap suplex follows and a cover for 2. A rear chinlock by Benjamin now, trying to keep Jeff grounded. Knees to the back of the head, the boots follow and a cover for 2 by Benjamin. A clothesline by Jeff, sloppy as they seemed to get confused and Jeff then slams down Benjamin. A leg drop follows and a cover for 2. They trade rights from the knees.
The 3rd man in is THE Brian Kendrick! The man has a NEW PPV JACKET as well! Zeke flanks him as he dances his way to the ring. Benjamin to the apron, Jeff as well and the brawl. German try by Benjamin, Jeff holds on and Kendrick nails Benjamin and sends him to the floor. Kicks by Kendrick and a cover on Jeff for 2. Flying forearm by Kendrick and another cover for 2. Numerous kicks to the head of Jeff, and another cover for 2. To the corner, rights by Kendrick and then an Irish whip, misses a charge and Jeff follows with the dump powerbomb and covers for 3! Jeff is the interim champion. Jeff back on the attack, Benjamin in and beats him down as Kendrick rolls to the floor. A suplex by Jeff gets 2. Big forearm by Benjamin and a cover for 2. To the corner and Benjamin misses the splash and Jeff covers for 2. Twist of fate countered, PAY DIRT by Benjamin! He covers 1…2…and Kendrick stops that. He tosses Benjamin to the floor, grabs Jeff and THE KENDRICK lands! 1…2…3! THE BRIAN KENDRICK IS THE INTERIM CHAMPION! He celebrates a bit.
The fourth man is MVP. He and Kendrick brawl, flapjack by MVP and then a basement dropkick to Jeff. He tosses Kendrick, thrust to the throat of Benjamin. Uppercuts follow, a whip and northern lariat by MVP. Drive By is stopped by Kendrick and a leg lariat! Jeff levels him and tosses him to the floor, mocks his dance and then gets the mule kick to Benjamin. Dropkicks to both MVP and Benjamin in the corner. Kendrick stops the pin, lays the boots to Benjamin and then chokes him out. Off the ropes and a Samoan Drop (HE IS NOT EVEN SAMOAN) by Benjamin. MVP and Kendrick brawl, cross body by Kendrick and then a basement dropkick to the face of MVP. Benjamin levels him with a clothesline, Kendrick fights out of a powerbomb with the RANA. Rights to MVP, forearms in return by MVP. Off the ropes, a bit of miscommunication and Kendrick gets a leg lariat.
And finally HHH is out. He is all business and walks with a purpose. HHH tosses Benjamin, rights to MVP, face buster and then ducks the attack by Kendrick. SPINEBUSTER by HHH! He tosses MVP, kick, wham, pedigree to Kendrick! 1…2…3. HHH is the interim champion. Benjamin and HHH brawl to the floor. Jeff and MVP back into the ring. Off the ropes and a boot by Jeff, twist of fate! 1…2…3! Jeff is the interim champion! Under 3-minutes left, Kendrick in and Jeff blocks the Kendrick and then gets a gourd buster. Jeff up top…HHH crotches him and is back in. PEDIGREE on Kendrick! 1…2…3. HHH is the interim champion again with 2-minutes left. SWANTON onto Kendrick and Jeff pins him! Jeff is the interim champion again. Pedigree try to Jeff, but HHH is tossed to the floor. PLANCHA onto HHH! 1-minute left, MVP sets Kendrick up top, they brawl and Benjamin leaps up top and TOWER OF DOOM~! Jeff back in and gets the whisper in the wind on MVP! Up top and SWANTON on Benjamin! HHH back in and PEDIGREE to MVP! 1…2…3 as time runs out!
Winner: HHH @ 20:00 via pin
- Again I feel that they used the concept very well. A good show of athletics from the usual suspects, if they choose this is a good "close but not enough" angle for the possible Jeff Hardy title win and even though he took three pins, Kendrick had a star making performance here on PPV and he looked as if he belonged.
Rating: ***½
-Jeff and HHH shake after the match.
-Todd is with HBK backstage. HBK says that was the first PPV in three months that he hasn't been sent to the hospital. He will clean up, pack up and go home. He will get in bed with his wife, play with his kids in the morning and they will know what happened here tonight. He is content with what he did, but there is no closure. If he had a choice, he would do what he did to Jericho tonight every night for the rest of his life. He has awoke something that he cannot control. As for Jericho, the worst is definitely yet to come. He smiles.
-Eve is with CM Punk. Orton stops his promo and says Punk is a fluke. Punk calls him an injured ex-champion. Punk asks if he is 100%, and Orton says no, but they will continue their conversation. Punk will continue to prove people wrong. Simply Priceless and Manu attack Punk! Kofi tries to help and gets beat down. CONCUSSION KICK to Punk by Orton! He says THAT was impressive!
Lock up to begin and they shove off. Lock up again, Maryse takes her to the mat, they work counters and McCool gets a cover for 2. Off the ropes and a Russian leg sweep by McCool gets 2. Maryse slams McCool down, works the arm but McCool back flips off of the ropes and sends Maryse to the corner. To the floor and Maryse sends McCool over the barricade. McCool back with a kick and gets a clothesline off of the barricade. Back into the ring we go and uppercuts by McCool. Maryse works the knee of McCool, and works a variation of the Indian deathlock. Maryse now lays the boots to McCool, wraps the leg in the ropes and then delivers rights to McCool. Standing knee bar by Maryse, but McCool escapes and works the knee of Maryse. They both favor their knees, and Maryse trips McCool in the ropes. McCool gets a boot to the face of Maryse and covers for 2. They slug it out, forearms by McCool, off the ropes and they about blow a sunset flip spot, McCool rolls out and gets abasement dropkick for 2. Kicks to the legs by Maryse, off the ropes and a kick by McCool. Sit out gourd buster suplex by McCool gets the win.
Winner: Michelle McCool @ 6:00 via pin
- Nothing you'll remember, and not all that good either as they forgot to sell the knees half the time..
Rating: ½*
-Mike Adamle is out, and says since CM Punk was attacked, it appears as if he will not be able to compete. If that is the case, he will have no choice but to find a suitable replacement. But rest assured, Raw's scramble WILL take place tonight.
-King and Cole discuss what may happen if Punk cannot compete.
~DRAMA~
The BIG SHOW makes his way to the ring. Show says hello and says he is here to suggest to Mike Adamle that he would be a great replacement. He is sick of oversights and sick of how Vickie is running Smackdown. He reminds us to vote as well. He discusses the text voting, and how he should have been in the scramble match. He says thank you and leaves. That is UNTIL Vickie appears and makes her way to the ring. She says Show doesn't understand English and disregards her instructions to NOT cause a disruption. She mentions fines and suspensions and then says that he is a big, dumb giant. She says to not look at her this way, and says now, he will deal with the circumstances.
DRUID CHANTS, fog and we see druids carrying a casket come to the ring. Show laughs and claps as this all happens. Taker appears on the screen and says that he promised that he would come for her. He also promised that the coffin would be her final resting place. Is she willing to go voluntarily, or will he have to come out there, take the air from her lungs until she is out, only to wake up to the stench of the flames from hell.
GONG…GONG… SOUL TAKING TIME! Show grabs Vickie by the arm so she cannot leave and Taker makes his entrance. Vickie tries to run but Show rolls her into the ring and keeps her there. Taker opens the coffin and makes his way into the ring. He takes off his jacket and hat, Big Show is enjoying this. Taker slowly walks towards Vickie, grabs her by the throat and Show LEVELS Taker with a big right. Head butts follows and then rights and lefts. They brawl to the floor and Show scoops him up and slams him to the steel post. More head butts by Show and he slams Taker onto the coffin. Show slams Taker to the barrier and then turns over the coffin. They slowly brawl some more and into the ring they go. More head butts, and the knockout shot by Show lays Taker out. Elbow drops by Show and he continues to beat down Taker v…e…r…y s…l…o…w…l…y. Show pick sup Taker and allows Vickie to slap him and spit into his face. Show and Vickie leave as we get replays of the beating.
-We get a video package from Raw and earlier tonight, showcasing Orton and Punk.
-Adamle and Regal talk backstage and Regal wants in the Scramble. Adamle says he will take it under advisement.
Batista and JBL will begin the match. Seriously. JBL wants to stay away from Batista as he backs off right away. Lock up, off the ropes and a shoulder block by Batista. Shoulder blocks in the corner, JBL with a back elbow but he eats a clothesline and cover for 2 by Batista. Flair shin buster by Batista, chop block follow and the figure four is applied. He keeps it on seemingly forever, but JBL gets the ropes and they break. Rights by Batista, but JBL pulls him to the floor.
The third man in is Kane. JBL is down and Batista waits on Kane to enter. They stand off, trade boots and a clothesline by Batista. Off the ropes and a big boot by Kane connects. Kane continues the attack and covers for 2. To the corner, uppercuts by Kane and then lays the boots to Batista. Rights by Batista, elbows and more rights. Corner clothesline by Batista. Off the ropes and a side slam by Kane. He goes up top and MISSES the top rope clothesline. He is up, stops Batista and JBL is in and gets a bog boot to Batista. Batista kicked to the floor, CHOKESLAM on JBL and Kane gets the pin. Kane is the interim champion. Rights by Kane to Batista in the corner, and time runs down as Batista hits the steel post.
The fourth man in is Rey Mysterio. He has a Mohawk on his mask. Leg kicks to Kane, springboard into the dropkick and Kane falls to the floor. JBL attacks Rey, off the ropes and a head scissors by Rey. Wheelbarrow bulldog by Rey and then a basement dropkick to Kane. 619 misses and Kane kills Rey with a clothesline. Batista back in and suplexes Kane. Batista and Rey face off and Rey calls over Batista, and they get a double team on Kane. They are BFF. They go to work together again, but Rey gets a RANA into a sunset flip for 2. NO BFF! JBL back in and gets the short-armed clothesline on Batista. Sack of shit slam to Rey, who lands on Batista and JBL covers for 2. Elbow drops by JBL, and he covers Rey for 2.
The final man in is CHRIS JERICHO! A battered Chris Jericho makes his way slowly to the ring as we have under 5-minutes left in the match. Jericho has a ton of bruises from his battle with HBK and stays on the floor. Kane runs wild on Batista, who then fights back and eats a spear from Batista! SPEAR on Jericho! SPEAR on JBL and Batista covers for 2 as JBL got the ropes. Rey with leg kicks to Batista, 619 on Kane! Batista covers Kane and Rey stops that. Leg drop to JBL by Rey a we have under 3-minutes left. Rey escapes the Batista bomb, 619 to JBL! Batista KILLS Rey with a kick and sends him to the floor. Clothesline from Hell on Kane! Spinebuster to JBL! 1:30 left in the match and Kane works over Batista in the corner. Slam on Batista, Kane up top and gets the clothesline on Batista. Kane covers for 2. 1-minute left, and Batista SPEARS Kane! Rey slide sin, spinebuster by Batista to Kane and that gets 3! Batista is the interim champion with 30-seconds left. Rey springs in and Batista catches him, Jericho pins KANE, Batista Bomb to REY! TIME RUNS OUT! JERICHO WINS! JERICHO WINS! JERICHO WINS!
Winner and NEW WORLD CHAMPION Chris Jericho @ 20:00 via pin
- Another solid match that worked the gimmick a little differently than the other matches did, but was the weaker of the scrambles. Jericho winning was not only a surprise but shakes up the title scene quite a bit. For a moment I thought that they would have HBK come out, but Jericho worked very well. Along with HBK's promo this should lead to greater TV with the two, and while Punk got screwed, he can say he NEVER lost the title. That should transition nicely into the Orton vs. Punk feud.
Rating: **½
-Jericho celebrates as Batista leaves disappointed.
-End scene…
Remember to leave a score of 1-10, as well as the best and worst match of the night in the comments section!
I guess I'm happy that Punk "never lost the title," but that was some serious bullshit. I also hated how THE Brian Kendrick ended up being in the match just to be the whipping boy. The rest of the show was inoffensive, and Jericho/HBK is always gold.
Best of the Night: Jericho/HBK
Trash of the Night: Divas title match
Rating: 7.5/10
Posted By: Duncan (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Y2J finally!
Posted By: dt_5150 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:30 PM
When did TNA start hosting Unforgiven?
Posted By: Guest#0920 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:30 PM
What a surprise...they took the title of Punk.
Yawn.
Posted By: MissyNEVERWearssocksWithShoes (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed the ppv. Top to bottom it was a good show, yes even the divas match I liked. And you had to love Jericho's evil grin holding the belt as the show ended.
Posted By: William (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:36 PM
HAHA poor WWE marks! you get boring matches like Jericho v HBK and Kendrick in a world title match LMAO! TNA gives us Ladder matches on FREE TV! WWE sucks, Cross the Line to TNA!
Posted By: TNAFAN (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:36 PM
EPIC BULLSHIT!!!!
Posted By: Guest#5327 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Jericho winning makes up for HHH winning.
THE BRIAN KENDRICK being interim champ makes up for Undertaker getting PPV time.
Matt being champ makes up for MVP being jobbed out.
However NO EDGE and NO PUNK = NO BUYS.
Posted By: scott (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I marked the fuck out for Jericho even though I knew it was comin....I don't care this is the best thing that could happen to Raw. The possibilities from here are endless...
And btw if this doesn't turn Batista into a crazed Animal Heel nothing will.
He should just kill Rey Rey now.
Posted By: ThePhenom (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Y2J! Y2J! Y2J!
Posted By: jeff (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:38 PM
ALL HAIL Y2J. thats right boys
Posted By: Guest#8558 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Jericho rules! Finally the man get his due.
Posted By: jmac (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Kendrick was the "whipping boy" at the end to take some pins, but he also got a pinfall himself and looked freakin' awesome in there. He got more offence in than either MVP or Benjamin.
The Maryse-McCool match was a disaster. Maryse may have tried the worst sunset flip in history.
Does Y2J-HBK become the World Title feud now? Presumably...it just didn't seem to need the title, as much as Jericho is full of awesome these days. What do Batista and JBL do now? Presumably they will torture us with some Kane-Rey matches for a while.
Posted By: Stanley (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:40 PM
(not sure if my first post got through as my net screwed up)
Generally I'll note that I liked the show.
But:
1) When did they decide to give Y2J the title? Its fine with me as it will hopefully lead to a Y2J vs HBK title feud, but it all seemed a little last minute.
2) Is Punk injured? Taking the Champion out of the match seemed a little unusual.
3) The WWE title match looked like a joke at the end. Having Jeff Hardy decide not to break up HHH's pin and having him stupidly pin Shelton instead? One kick to HHH's back and he was world champion. Bizarrely booked.
4) Why threaten to push Kane, and then have him put down for 30 seconds and 2 pinfalls by one spinebuster?
On the plus side, HBK vs Y2J was gold as ever, the ECW Scramble was much better than anticipated, and the forming of the 2nd/3rd generation stable seemed to come along nicely.
Posted By: Rob (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Well, just when I think WWE is doing something right and the scramblefest might not be as bad as I thought it would be they pull this shit off. Jericho is severly beaten to the brink of unconsciousness by HBK earlier in the show and they have him come out and win the title. It's this shit that makes me wonder why I put up with WWE at times. This is even worse than Russo booking, hell Russo would be in envy at this type of booking. You get your champ taken out by a kick to the head yet a guy who gets beaten near death comes out to replace him and wins the belt.
Right= ECW and Smackdown scrambles
Purgatory= Tag title match
Wrong= Divas match
RussoFuckingriffic!= Raw scramble
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I have not been interested in WWE for a long time but Jericho as champ? Hmm... Might have to cross back over the line and check RAW out this week.
Posted By: Stephen Bayne (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:46 PM
is russo booking this crap? One good match and the rest gimmick! Did anyone think hhh would give up his belt? vicky is a whore and what disresepct too Eddie!
Posted By: Brother Bob Onit (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Jericho takes a brutal beating from HBK and come back at the end of the show and win the title. What kind of crap is this? Did they let Jericho/HBK write this part of the show to?
Posted By: Guest#0999 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:46 PM
The Highlight of the Night
The King of the World
Your Paragon of Virtue
Y2.....um, forget that one since he
said he doesn't want you ignorant fans (who cheer for people like Shawn Michaels) calling him that anymore.
Whatever you call him, just make sure you refer to Chris Jericho as "new World Champion".
Posted By: Guest#5784 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:47 PM
When did TNA start hosting Unforgiven?
Posted By: Guest#0920 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Give me a break! I'm a TNA fan, but props to the WWE for stepping it up a notch with Unforgiven.
I could've done without the SD Scramble (although my dream of THE Brian Kendrick being the champ was fulfilled), but the rest of the evening was solid.
Congrats to Matt Hardy finally being the top man in a promotion! Now it will be interesting to see if he gets a better booked reign as ECW champ.
Once again the RAW scene gets even better. Y2J is a champ that will put butts in seats and will have everyone gunning for him. Orton will have to deal with Punk, Batista will look for Y2J again so it'll be interesting how they renew that with HBK around. Not to even mention that Cena will be back in a few months.
Also the second generation stable is getting better with Manu around. They will need to find someone to help Cryme Tyme get revenge.
Between the upcoming New Blood/Old guard storyline and with RAW getting more interesting with the surprises, wrestling fans of both promotions have something to be excited about!
Posted By: Orlando (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:47 PM
HAHA poor WWE marks! you get boring matches like Jericho v HBK and Kendrick in a world title match LMAO! TNA gives us Ladder matches on FREE TV! WWE sucks, Cross the Line to TNA!
Posted By: TNAFAN (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:36 PM
You're being that guy. Stop being that guy. TNA has more SWERVES then a hillside road. And to call HBK/Y2J boring destroys any possible credibility you could have. You're shoving the Q-Tip in WAY to far. Shut up and stop talking. Thanks :-D
Posted By: Tony (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:48 PM
solid 8 3/4
Posted By: dyna.dave (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Punk should tell the WWE to screw off. What a shitty way to take the title & give it to Jericho.
Posted By: Ben Dover (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Solid PPV. HBK Jericho best match. Jericho winning the title was Great!TNAFAN needs to just stick to the Lower TNA leagues. if any of the the TNA wrestlers were in front of 20000 fans they would crap themselves
Posted By: Jericho (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I cry BS. Punk doesn't wrestle on a show that I ordered simply because I would get a nice long, hopefully solid, match with him involved. I am not a happy camper. Good show throughout otherwise....but no Punk really brings it down for me as a fan of the Punker.
Posted By: Carnivore (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:50 PM
THE kendrick = gold.
Posted By: zeke (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Punk loses his title without ever having to give him any offense on the main eventers.
The perfect end to the perfect title reign. Christ.
Posted By: Vallejo (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:52 PM
"The Maryse-McCool match was a disaster. Maryse may have tried the worst sunset flip in history."
Yeah, and the rest of the match was pretty decent, not anything close to the gloom and doom everyone predicted.
Posted By: Guest#7311 (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Does anyone think Punk is injured or SUSPENDED.... Maybe hes not so STRAIGHT EDGE?????????
But seriously does that main event make any sense...Y2J gets his ass kicked and then wins the title???
I think their is something up with CM Punk...Does anyone agree
Posted By: Marco (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:54 PM
dont tell me punk failed the wellness policy..
Posted By: drew (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Jericho rules! Finally the man get his due.
Posted By: jmac (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Yeah because that whole First Undisputed Champion, debuting against the Rock and feud wih HBK was burying him. Oh, let's not forget the greatest "redebut" in recent memory with the Save Us_22
Posted By: JT (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:55 PM
"Y2J! Y2J! Y2J! My god that twisted individual has won the World Championship... Damn you chris jericho, damn you to hell!" Thats what good ole J.R. would have said had he still been on the raw anounce team.
I am happy he won it though. He's been my favorite since he and alex wright fought in wcw. This shouldave happened when he was gonna save us a few months back
Posted By: y2josh (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:55 PM
"What do Batista and JBL do now?"
Hopefully go away for a long, long time.
Posted By: scott (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Kind of a mixed bag. It's total crap that Punk didn't even get to participate in the scramble match, and got screwed yet again by WWE's booking.
I guess if there was one other active person on the Raw roster that deserved to be world champion, it would be Chris Jericho, who's been all kinds of awesome all year now, but I wish his win didn't have to be at the expense of CM Punk, who could've been something great if allowed to be.
I guess the only consolation (aside from Jericho now being world champ, which he sure as hell earned) is that Punk's short reign and loss reminds me a lot of Randy Orton's first time around with the title...and that worked out for the best, too...eventually. I guess time will tell.
Posted By: BJC (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:59 PM
no thoughts of punk buried or failing wellness on my mind. its been reported the past few days that they want to take the belt off of punk and re-build him stronger to make him a legit champ so they had orton cost him the match now he feuds with orton builds himself legit and gets a big win on a big state maybe WM25..... thoughts
Posted By: Jersey (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I ordered the ppv for the first time in a year. I'm not too disappointed. A few things. the crowd was dead most of the night. Whenever you could see the crowd's faces 90% wouldn't be watching the match. what the heck was up with the booking. lets see 2 guys go for pins when they are already champs (wtf), jeff chooses to try to pin a guy rather than breaking up hhh's pin (wtf big time, make hardy look stupid), and also have kane stay down long enough for 2 three counts from a weak spinebuster. actually think wwe. you ruined possibly epic moment by not having jeff and matt winning.
Posted By: nick (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:03 AM
So HBK beats the piss out of Jericho in a blood feud...and once again, no sign of blood. Fan-fucking-tastic.
Keep convincing yourself that the changeover to "all PG, all the time" didn't change anything.
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Some of you always grab that bait when someone posts sarcastic comments about TNA.
Posted By: Randy Watson (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:05 AM
HAHA poor WWE marks! you get boring matches like Jericho v HBK and Kendrick in a world title match LMAO! TNA gives us Ladder matches on FREE TV! WWE sucks, Cross the Line to TNA!
Posted By: TNAFAN (Guest) on September 07, 2008 at 11:36 PM
i'll cross the line i'll cross the line.. to see your mother!!!!!
so wwe sux huh? but TNA thats roster is primarily ex WWE wrestlers and a washed up legend who hasn't been important since 1998 is great? yeah, oh yeah and by the way free ladder matches are good when the match itself doesn't suck..
U SIR SHOULD Be Sodimized!
Posted By: Guest#1041 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Kayfabe-wise....
Punk was kicked in the head by Orton, a move that's been sold as deadly. Of course he wouldn't be able to wrestle 4 guys just minutes later.
Mike Adamle had little time to think of a replacement. Jericho was the best pick on such short notice. No way was he fresh, but he did have plenty of time to regain his composure after what Shawn did to him.
Punk is now a man who was cheated out of his title. Nobody pinned him. It took four guys jumping him before a title defense to get the title away from him.
Doesn't sound that bad.
Posted By: Guest#2033 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Actually, this all seems like an ad-libbed build up for Survivor Series. Since Cena apparently won't be around, they'll have Punk, Kofi, and Cryme Time
against Orton, Simply Priceless, and Manu.
Meanwhile, while Michaels heals up, Jericho can run with the strap and keep his heat at a high point - something he stood to lose without Michaels in the picture. Maybe they'll put him against Batista.
Posted By: guest9 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:07 AM
"and while Punk got screwed, he can say he NEVER lost the title. That should transition nicely into the Orton vs. Punk feud."
Oh come on, you know how this will go down. Punk will get a shot at the title on Raw, which he will lose because they want the belt involved in HBK-Y2J. Then Punk will get to job to Orton once he's ready to return to the ring, thus shuffling him back down the latter into mid-card hell.
And for good measure add into the equation that Punk "couldn't compete" while Jericho, who was supposedly beaten so badly earlier in the night that the ref stopped the match, made it out to the ring. So essentially the face champion forfeited his title, while the heel Jericho staggered out despite taking a major beating of his own. Talk about how he "never lost the title" all you want, but having Punk basically quit and give up the title makes him like a major chump.
I'd be more agitated if not for the fact that it does make sense to put the title on Jericho while the feud with Michaels is so hot, but they could have found a way of doing it without utterly destroying Punk's credibility.
Posted By: Bcbrown3 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:09 AM
I'm a CM Punk fan.
Punk as champion was going nowhere. They had booked themselves into a corner - this is a guy who had never had a run as even an Intercontinental or US Champion and suddenly he's World Champion? Nobody bought him as being on the level of the main guys yet because we weren't given a reason to. Woulda been the same had someone like John Morrison or Shelton Benjamin (guys with deeper WWE resumes) won the World Title like he did.
Now he gets to have a real, legit feud with a real, legit main eventer that has some actual backstory behind it. Having a solid feud with Orton will do more for Punk than fending off guys like JBL and Batista. Assuming they book the Orton feud properly.
So what's the guess on the name of the Second Generation stable?
Posted By: Stanley (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Fun ppv. Something a little different. i enjoyed it.
Posted By: Greg (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Shawn said he was going home straight away, Punk was knocked out and Randy's still not cleared so Jericho was the only choice they had to fill the spot.
He did almost nothing except get a pin as well, it's not as though he no-sold the HBK match and was kicking ass out there.
Solid storytelling imo
Posted By: scott (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:18 AM
6 outta 10
thats just me being nice cause i didnt like the ppv
best match of the night:ecw scrable yes i said it also hbk and y2j
worst match of the night:tie between womens title match and wwe title match
the wwe title match was good until triple h came out.kendrick and jeff hardy put on a great performance but the end was just utter shit.really hardy had the choice to break up the pin and be champ or pin benjamin and nothing happen.god i hate triple h....
Posted By: random (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:18 AM
What happend to people freaking out when someone who doesnt need a title wins one? If everyone is having so many orgasms over hbk/jericho already whats going to happen with the title now? Way to let Jericho sell the injuries too. He can make it but Cm punk cant?
Posted By: WhiteRoom (Registered) on September 08, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Jericho is so boring. He gets his ass kicked and now is champ, so then he can eventually drop it to HBK for a final Championship run? And when is this Y2J term going to end. He's been calling himself that for 8-9 years+ now. Is there a new entrance and new music in the works?..Man...he's sooooooo boring......uggggh.
Posted By: JEBJJA (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:23 AM
I thought the show was basically very good. I first thought they could have had nobody get a pinfall in the twenty minutes and have Punk remain as champ without ever having been in the match. Then after Kane got that first pin I just figured Punk would stagger out at the end and get a surge of energy as the match was ending and GTS and pin as the time would run out but when Jericho staggered out I was positive that he was getting it. Anyone who is looking at the show again should check to see if Maryse couldn't remember which of McCool's legs she was supposed to be concentrating on. The HBK/Jericho match was good. No Glamarella and no Khali ??
Posted By: Charlie (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Incidentally, did anyone else think it was weird and stupid for Jericho to win the belt? Now look, I like Jericho. I think he deserves another run with the strap. But him coming back and winning a championship right after he gets the beating of a lifetime from Shawn Michaels just seems to...
I mean, it cheapens everybody. It cheapens the belt, it cheapens Punk, it cheapens Shawn Michaels and it cheapens the whole fucking angle. It's just weird is all.
Posted By: Vallejo (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:28 AM
>The stoppage fell flat, partly because the audience isn't educated on it and partly because they announced that "The only way to win is by pin or submission."
Call it a "technical submission". Wrestler was unable to submit so the ref did it for him.
Posted By: Guest#3979 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:28 AM
anybody actually watch the ppv tonight or did everyone just read the results and start bitching?
that's what I thought. I'm gonna go watch Rashad Evans knocked out Chuck Lidell again.
Posted By: CalllerNo9 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:28 AM
God, Kendrick was not the whipping boy. He friggin dominated most of the time he was in. The guy got in more offense then MVP.
And a part of me was hoping, deep down, then when Taker came out with the casket, a wax dummy of Eddie woulda been in there.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:30 AM
WTF is the deal with Punk being out? And his replacement is the one more beaten to a pulp in the same night. Talk about logic. Although its great to have Y2J as champ, they should have done it as a one-on-one match.
Another one is The Brian Kendrick being the reccepient of numerous pinfalls. Can't say i didn't mark out when he became the intermin champ though.
Posted By: raistlinmajere (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Ok. You people REALLY piss me off. This was a great show with a GREAT ending. Russorific? Fuck no. Jericho went out there as a heel who stood NO CHANCE and played his part right after being beaten down by HBK earlier and hiding till last second to become World Champ. It continues his prick "i will do anything to win type" style. Punk wasn't in this match but a title change was going to happen so all of you people bitching about Punk losing the title should thank god Punk didn't look like a jobber losing it rather got taken out by a gang full of people and probably will have what could be a great feud with Orton. What more pisses me off? People like the guy saying "lol TNA is so much better" leave that shit out. If you prefer TNA good for you but leave it off the boards fan boy or i will give you 10 reasons why TNA isn't @ WWE's fan base or economic level and trust me you won't like them. This was a SOLID show compared to some other stuff that's been put out on the air with a good solid ending. I swear you "smarks" are not happy with anything and the "s" in smark doesn't stand for "Smart" it should stand for "snob" because you people just think you know the industry when you don't. I swear I could write for days on why "smart marks" piss me off something fierce just off of comments from this site. God.
Posted By: EBak (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Y2J as champ = EPIC WIN = MEGA BUYS
CM Chump, back to the mid-card where you belong!!!
Posted By: Slick (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:43 AM
I may be a minority, but I like the overall booking in the WHC match. Jericho didn't really 'lose', as he wasn't pinned or submitted. PLUS, that was unsanctioned.. I see CM Punk returning naming himself the 'real' champion ala HBK/Razor Ramon. The only thing that potentially sucks is that Punk won't be turning heel anytime soon, unless he swerves and joins Orton. I wonder if HBK will take a hiatus due to injury.
Best of the Night- Jericho/HBK
Trash of the Night- Maryse/McCool
Posted By: Neuce6 (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:55 AM
HBK did win some sort of Emmy, Jericho awarded it to him on the highlight reel after Backlash
Posted By: Ted (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 12:57 AM
"Y2J as champ = EPIC WIN = MEGA BUYS
CM Chump, back to the mid-card where you belong!!!"
What makes your comment even more ignorant is that a lot of people say the same thing about Jericho that you said about Punk.
Posted By: scott (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:07 AM
I actually woudn't be all that suprised if Punk was given back his title on Raw and Jericho was made the No.1 contender. There must be a rule somewhere that the champion has to at least be in the match to lose the title, if not they can make one up.
If it doesn't happen Jericho VS HBK for the title will be pure gold.
I give the PPV a 7.5, in the UK we get it free anyway so I can't complain.
Posted By: Cheryl (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:09 AM
I was ready to call this SummerSlam 2 until Jericho won the title. Then I marked like a mo fo.
Posted By: Darren (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:38 AM
Look, honestly, I am a huge CM Punk fan. I love the fact that I can claim that one of the guys I've rooted for since ROH got to hold the big gold belt.
Regardless of the fact that Jericho is my favorite wrestler...geez people there's no pleasing you. They shake things up again and you complain. What? Would you rather any of the other participants in that match who are stale have have been for possible 2 or more years now take it? Please. Even JBL, one of the best talkers the WWE, has fallen into the same lull of a promo lately.
So please people. It's something new again, just like Punk winning in the first place. And it's for the better, as 3 young guys get to ride Orton's coattails, while Cade gets face time with the world champ. Win. Win. Win.
Posted By: A Fan. (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:38 AM
Jericho winning the title will probably put Batista back into the picture against both him and Michaels. A triple threat match for the title, maybe? Although, that would be a step back in the HBK/Jericho feud. I dunno, I'm probably putting more thought into this than the WWE creative team has... but, bottom line, cheers to Jericho!
Posted By: KanyonKreist (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:50 AM
"What makes your comment even more ignorant is that a lot of people say the same thing about Jericho that you said about Punk."
I can't wait to see Cm Chump job to Santino as the Honk-O-Meter climbs higher and higher!!!
Posted By: Slick (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:51 AM
Hm, for this PPV I'd give it a solid 6 out of 10 at most. That's generous.
Worst Match of the Night: World Championship Scramble. You expect the women to be bad, but you do not expect your world champion to not even make it to the match after being piss poor booked for two months because he got kicked in the head and the guy WHO LOST THE UNSANCTIONED MATCH gets the title shot.. excuse me, but.. what about HBK? He won the damn match! Jericho loses and gets put in the Scramble? Makes no REAL sense as HBK said for the first time in three PPV's he DOESN'T have to go to the hospital and Jericho, who got beaten up similiarly to him, did not sell it by being "hospitalized" at all. Bull. I understand its a good thing to put the title on the line between two very deserving performers, but the ending made Jericho, HBK, and Punk look weak (HBK doesn't get the shot and can't even keep Jericho down for one hour, Jericho gets the title because of one fluke cover, and Punk gets called a paper champion/fluke and kicked in the head and can't even make his scheduled match)
Best Match of the Night: HBK/Jericho. The match itself was great, although I could have done without Cade-ference AGAIN and the stupid "well, it ends via pin or submission but we'll just stop the match" ending. The greatness of this match and the storytelling was also lost on Michael Cole who has far, far bigger shoes to fill in commentary than he ever could. But quality wise, it was certainly worth 4 and 3/4ths with the fact HBK did this WITH an injured left tricep and STILL stole the show!
Line of the Night: "Do you ever shut up and just watch the match?" King to Cole during the Tag Title match.
Posted By: Black Scorpion (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:54 AM
Finally Jericho saved us.
From ourselves.
/marking is fun
Posted By: SAVED (Guest) on September 08, 2008 at 01:57 AM
