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411’s TNA Impact Report 9.26.08
Posted by Larry Csonka on 09.25.2008




TNA Impact Begins…NOW!
-We get a video package from last week.

-Tenay and West welcome us to the show and run down the card for the show.

~THE KING OF THE MOUNTAIN DISCUSSES UNFINISHED BUSINESS~
Jarrett is out and says as the founder of TNA it gives him great pleasure to announce that they has signed a great and unique wrestler, one of the greatest of all time. This is the greatest acquisition in TNA history and next week he will be here live in the Impact Zone, Mick Foley. Jarrett has a short video play, and that brings out…

Kurt Angle, who likely does not approve. Angle disputes the claim that Foley is a great acquisition and then says Jarrett's head has been up his ass for 24-months. Jarrett left, Angle entered and single handedly he carried the company for 2-years and made it what it was. He turned this outhouse into a penthouse. Foley is yesterday's news, just like Jarrett. Jarrett says he wanted to come out here and forget about last week. He said some thing he shouldn't have said and he apologizes to Angle. Jarrett says he had a hard time deciding to return to the on camera role. There have been things going on around here that he disagrees with. Jarrett mentions that AJ left the building two straight weeks with Angle's gold medal. Jarrett went to AJ and got them back, because while they have differences, in 1996 Kurt Angle won this gold medal for the country and is a true American hero. Angle asks if he will just give it back, and says that is swell but get the hell out of his ring. Angle then says he doesn't need Jarrett kissing his ass, he knows he's great. OH SHIT, Angle just called Jarrett a BITCH and a washed up failure like his old man. Jarrett keeps walking, and Angle says to tell your kids that daddy is a quitter. That did it. Jarrett walks back to the ring and says his whole life he has been a warrior, a competitor. He has survived every battle, but Kurt has no ideal what Jarrett has been through and he doesn't wish then on Angle. But Jarrett has never and will not quit. "You want me back in the ring Kurt? I will grant you your wish, you don't want any part of the pain I suffered these last 2-years. You got me at Bound for Glory, I'll see you in Chicago."



Matt Morgan and Abyss vs. The Rock and Rave Infection (Rock and Rave w/Infection)

Rave wanted to start with Abyss, bad plan, so Rock is in and works over Abyss, but then eats a big boot. Rave collides with Abyss and is down. Morgan tags in, big cross body off the top to Rock. Double team flapjack to Rave and then a hip toss to the floor, sucks to be Rave. Morgan follows, Hemme rakes his back and Rock then attacks him from behind. Back in and Rave gets a cover for 1. Rock in and they double team, well try to and Morgan lays out Rock, dropkick to Rock and a tag to Abyss. BLACK HOLE SLAM! SHOCK TREATMENT! Abyss runs wild, tags Morgan in and he drops Rave with the HELLEVATOR! That's all.

Winners: Abyss and Matt Morgan @ 3:00 via pin
  • Fine for the time given, but it was all about the after match angle.
    RATING: *½

    -Team 3D is now out and Devon says at No Surrender they lost on a fluke. But they don't realize who they are, they are the baddest tag team walking the planet. Team 3D. They have accomplished 9-time WWE tag team champions, 1-time WCW champions, 8-time ECW champions, All Japan tag team champions and boys, they are undefeated in Japan. 1-time TNA champions, that's 20-times, and there is not a tag team that has done more then they have Ray now has the mic and says at Bound for Glory, it will be 3D vs. Morgan and Abyss and any other tag team that wants in, MONSTERS BALL! Abyss FREAKS out at this news!

    -Rough Cuts on Roxxi.


    -Lauren is with Beer Money and Miss Jackie. They discuss the match later tonight, where the losing team loses their manager. Storm says no disrespect to the Guerrero name, but Jackie has been in this business for a long time. They didn't want a pretty face, they wanted the baddest woman on the planet! She completes Beer Money, Jackie was born to wrestle, to beat people up. And you'll see how tough she is. Storm says to grab his hat, and Jackie leaves. Roode says if they lose she is gone for good. Storm says they won't lose on his watch, and grabs his beer helmet.

    -We get a knockouts video package.

    -Kong comes out alone, and looks for Saeed as she comes to the ring.

    Awesome Kong vs. Mercedes Steele

    Mercedes Steele is known to many as "Lexxus" and is from New England. Congrats on the national TV time honey, sorry it's against Kong. Lock up and Kong tosses Steele down. Steele uses her speed, kicks, dropkick and then Kong LEVELS her Vader style. Kong tosses her to the floor, and Saeed comes to the ring with two chairs. Kong beats down Steele on the floor, back into the ring we go and whips her to the corner, corner splash follows from Kong. KONG BOMB and that is all.

    Winner: Awesome Kong @ 1:30 via pin


    -After the match Saeed tosses the chairs into the ring, lays one down and instructs Kong to torture Steele. CHAIR SHOT by Saeed! Another! Kong is down! Saeed unmasks and it is Roxxi! Roxxi goes on the attack and beats down Kong with rights from the mount! Security is out to stop that, and we see the REAL Saeed on the ramp, tied up.


    ~KAREN'S ANGLE~
    Christian Cage is the guest. She says that for months the locker room has been divided, veterans vs. guys like AJ and Joe that have helped to build this company. Cage says he falls in the middle. He agrees with Joe and AJ to a point, but until Cage, Nash, Angle and Sting came, they were not household names, and no big TV deal. Is it respect or money with them, he doesn't know. He sees both sides because he has been there. Form his point of view, he sees it as motivation. You bust your ass to get to the top. You don't get respect, you earn it. He is in the middle, still young but also has been in the business for a while. Last week his outburst was taken out of context. AJ Knows he doesn't like to be spoken for, but he and AJ cleared the air. Karen asks what side he is on, and he feel like a free agent. It depends on who has the better offer. He says the sides haven't been decided, and Karen says he is avoiding the question. Cage promises to look on, and a PHONE rings. It sounded like a 1950's phone. It's Cage's agent, and he leaves.


    -Lauren is with LAX and Hector. Hector says that they put too much gravy on their biscuits. Ok. He says that they are blood, familia, he promised to never let them down, and he will do his best. Blood is thicker than water, and there is nothing stronger than that. Hector then calls Jackie a wench, nice.


    -JB is with Booker in his locker room. Sharmell has the briefcase again. Booker says there is a lot going on, but where he is from in Africa, one thing doesn't change, the king and queen. No matter what happens, they will continue to rule. Booker says AJ has been here for 6-years, and he did nothing. He did more in 6-minutes than AJ has. The ratings went through the roof, AJ is small time and needs to go. JB asks what is in the briefcase, and gets slapped by Sharmell for his troubles. Dumb ass.

    Non-Title Losing Team Loses Their Manager Forever Match: LAX and Hector Guerrero vs. Beer Money and Jackie Moore

    Storm and Cide to begin. Boots by Cide, off the ropes and a shoulder block, counters and an overhead toss by Cide gets 2. Roode tags in, they try a double team, Cide ballets back, RANA to Roode and a tag to Hector. Rights to Roode, to Storm, a dropkick to Storm and then rights and lefts to Roode. Hector clears the ring of Storm, suplex to Roode, another and the third, THREE AMIGOS! Jackie in and attacks hector, she then runs and Hector chases her. Cide and Roode in, and we head to a commercial @ 3:00.

    We are back from commercial @ 6:00 as Storm places Cide on the top rope, they show replays and then we see Storm biting Cide on the forehead. Cide fights back and gets, well, something off of the top, it was sloppy. Tag to Hernandez and he slingshots in and begins to clean house. Gut wrench into a torture rack drop by Hernandez gets 2. Storm back in and a boot to Hernandez, atomic drop by Roode and a back stabber by Storm gets 2. Dual clothesline by Hernandez, Cide up top and a side suplex by Hernandez, frog splash by Cide gets 2. Roode and Storm to the floor, Cide misses the baseball slide, Roode and Storm hit each other and Hernandez then goes to toss Cide, Jackie back in, Hector follows and Roode is back in, nails Hernandez and then he spears the hell out of Roode. SUPERMEX DIVE by Hernandez onto Beer Money! Cide and Roode back in, Gringo Cutter! Jackie distracts the ref, Cide chases her and Roode uses Storm's helmet to KILL Hernandez with a shot to the head, and Roode covers for the win.

    Winners: Beer Money @ 10:00 via pin
  • Overall this was a good match. They played the chase bit a little too much, but the end with Homicide leaving to chase Jackie works perfectly, especially if they are looking to do the split of LAX. Hector did will for his short stint in the ring, so good for him. Also the heels cheating to cost LAX their manager is a great dick move.
    RATING: **½


    ~THE LOVE-IN~~
    Dutt and Val have been in bed for the last 10-days, celebrating since the PPV. Val says she owes no explanation. Val wants to meet Dutt's rich father, and then asks when he "goes" if Dutt gets the cash. Dutt and Val then sing "Give Love a Chance." Lauren calls Val YOKO and bails.


    ~A LECTURE FROM OLD MAN STING~
    Sting makes his way to the ring, and it is lecture time. Out of respect for Jerry Jarrett and even Jeff, he stood here last week and listened. But tonight they listen to him. Jeff has some gullible people in the back swerved. Jeff has left out some details. Jeff called and asked Sting to come out of retirement to wrestle in TNA. Jeff asked him to come and said that he needed him. He also got a call from Vince McMahon. Sting said he chose TNA, even though Vince said he was giving up a chance to make millions. If Sting was about money he'd be with Vince. But Sting chose to come to TNA, because he loves the brand. He loves the young wrestlers and what he saw, until he got to know some of the young guys. So Jeff, everyone needs to understand. Do you not need me anymore? Well Sting has to worry about Joe and Bound for Glory. Sting has a slide show for us. We see Arm and Tully! A great tag team, and they taught him to have eyes in the back of his head. Next is Dusty Rhodes. One of the most charismatic wrestlers, he taught Sting to involve the fans and not to judge a book by its cover. Hulk Hogan is next. People around the world will claim him to be the best ever. Hogan was wrestling and it became mainstream because of him. Sting say she is not afraid to admit that. Now we see Flair. 20-years ago Flair took a young jabroni named Sting and put him on the map. He had the choice to make or break his career, but he helped me out. Why? Because Sting respected Ric Flair. Flair taught him to travel around the world, how to walk the isle, how to bleed and keep going, he was his brother, friend, his confidant, he is Slick Ric! And now we see Samoa Joe. Joe does not know how to be a world champion. He needs to learn respect. We see Sting on the screen. He says he will get the job done. Bound for Glory 2008 is all his and he will get the job done.


    -In the back Abyss is freaking out and Morgan wants to calm him. Abyss is screaming for no weapons while Morgan tires to explain the money aspect of the PPV appearance. Morgan says he talked to Abyss' therapist and says he has to face his fear. Morgan said he feared flying, and he became a pilot. Abyss asks to see his wings, nice. Morgan then says he feared bears, and went into the woods and beat the shit out of a bear. Abyss thinks that they are hairy and cuddly. Abyss then asks if he will be ok, and Morgan says they will be just fine.

    -We get a video preview for the Steel Asylum Match.

    -JB is with Joe. JB thought Joe would come out to confront Sting, but Joe says he is fine. He realizes and apologizes to Nash. Joe understands now, you have to keep it together before you make the kill. That's where he is at right now. They are three weeks away from the PPV, and let's be honest, this has to do with fear. Fear of a man like Joe taking his spot. Joe is done talking yelling, making promises. At Bound for Glory, he'll do all his talking in the ring. Lethal and Creed come to thank Joe for all he does, and promise to have his back if he needs it. Joe says shit is about to get interesting.


    -We get a video package for Suicide.

    Non-Title Match: Sheik Abdul Bashir © vs. Samoa Joe ©

    Bashir looks to use his speed to begin, but he gets flap jacked down. An Irish whip by Joe, Enziguri by Joe and Bashir is down. Off the ropes, Joe misses the corner knee and Bashir then goes to work on the leg. Elbow drops by Bashir to the leg, works the grapevine of the leg but Joe battles out. Joe then misses the knee drop, and Bashir works kicks to the leg and covers for 2. Bashir continues his work of the with a knee crank, Joe lands a kick and breaks it. Chops by Joe, Bashir cuts him off and lands chops. A whip, reversal and boot by Bashir. Bashir then misses a 2nd rope cross body. Atomic drop by Joe, big boot and then the back splash gets 2. Bashir back with the jawbreaker, then to the knee and now applies the single leg crab. Joe manages to get the ropes, Bashir wraps the leg in the ropes and continues to abuse it. Forearm strikes to Joe, the ref backs him off but Bashir charges in, STJOE~! Joe sets Bashir up top, MUSCLE BUSTA~! That's all.

    After the match Joe has the mic and tells Sting that he wants respect, well, he got his respect right here! Joe applies the rear naked choke and officials are out to break the hold.

    Winner: Sheik Abdul Bashir @ 4:00 via DQ
  • The good news is that they dropped the plane sound from Bashir's theme music. This was a damn fine four-minute match, but Bashir came out of it looking like complete shit. Sorry but he did, losing clean as hell in four-minutes and then choked out like a bitch, was Johnny Devine not available?
    RATING: **

    -We get an AJ Styles video package.

    -JB is with AJ Styles. AJ is pissed at Booker and is proud of where he is from and mocks Booker's new accent. AJ then says there will be no wedge between he and Cage, only a boot up Booker's ass.


    -Christian Cage comes to the ring to check out the action.

    Booker T w/Sharmell and her Briefcase vs. AJ Styles

    AJ with the go behind, to the corner and Booker breaks clean. Lock up and rights by Booker. Chops follow, wristlock and then the sidekick by Booker. AJ fires back with rights, chops follow and then a whip to the corner and the corner splash by AJ. Snap mare and kicks by AJ follow and then a cover for 2. Booker back with knee strikes, off the ropes and AJ slides under and then dropkicks Booker in the back of the head. AJ covers for 2 and we'll head to a commercial @ 3:00.

    Back from commercial @ 5:30 as Booker lands a kick to take AJ to the mat. Forearm strikes by Booker, the side slam follows and then a knee drop by Booker. To the corner, chops by Booker and then rights follow. Snap mare by Booker and a cover for 2. Booker works a seated wristlock on AJ, but AJ works to his feet and eats a spinebuster for 2. Booker works the chinlock, the ref checks on AJ, the arm drops two times, but stays up on the third. AJ to his feet, elbows to Booker, avoids the ax kick and delivers clotheslines to Booker. AJ to the apron, SUPERMAN forearm connects and AJ gets a cover for 2. PELE by AJ, another cover for 2. Booker counters a whip, knee to AJ and then off the ropes and a forearm by Booker. To the corner, AJ and Booker collide and then they collide into the ref. OY… Sharmell plays Debra and has the briefcase, Cage makes the save and AJ sees him with the case, dissention in the ranks, Booker takes out Cage and levels AJ with the case, tosses it, and then gets the cover for 3.

    Winner: Booker T @ 10:45 via pin
  • I never really got into the match, it just felt as if they were going through the motions. I guess I expected more. The end came off poor in execution, but the had the right idea.
    RATING: **

    -Booker stares down with Cage after the match and then leaves with Sharmell.

    -Cage and AJ argue as the show ends.

    -We get a video package to close the show.

    -Mick Foley officially debuts next week.

    *End scene…


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    23:45

    Posted By: Guest#7077 (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:05 PM

     
     
    Notice the crowd chanting overated at HULK HOGAN

    Posted By: Ian (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:08 PM

     
     
    My thoughts on the show Very good promos and storyline advancement tonight Sting And Joes very good promos made me interested in buying the ppv
    Jarrett vs Angle should be atleast solid
    since I didn't read the spoilers the whole roxxi thing shocked me because in the outfid she looked just like melissa it was a good angle I think this was almost done as good as the ddp savage la parka thing
    The so cal val sonjay thing was a little dumb but in bed for ten days that was pretty adult maybe tna is really trying to get an adult demographic
    I don't think Bashir looked to bad he got alot in and considering he put up avery good fight against the world champ well thats a good thing
    anyway a good show tonight very good in terms of selling the ppv


    Posted By: random (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM

     
     
    I heard that, Ian. I guess it's official, Hulkamania is dead

    Posted By: William (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM

     
     
    Once again, Sting is cool, calm, and makes complete sense.

    Joe can't control his temper and ends up losing a match he already won. Boy, he sure showed Sting, didn't he? Next time they are in the ring together, Sting should just laugh in Joe's face.


    Posted By: Guest#9340 (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:12 PM

     
     
    10:45
    10:00
    4:00
    3:00
    1:30
    I counted 29:15 were you not couting commercials or something?


    Posted By: random (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:14 PM

     
     
    we all know that tna is ''we are wrestling''...but in reality they have stopped recognizing this and are now ''cross the line'' so what they have done is crossed the line into wwe territory with less matches and more promos...which is what their new tagline suggests

    Posted By: sats (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:15 PM

     
     
    First of all, I have to disagree about Bashir looking like crap. He actually got in the majority of offense during the match, until Joe overpowered him in the end. Isn't that a classic way to get the rub, while losing to someone higher up the card?

    But there's something else I really want to discuss tonight. I've been a pretty outspoken poster, but there is one topic I've avoided up to this point. But now, I say controversy be damned, I have to make my opinion known. So, I just want to say, Karen Angle has really nice tits. If you can smell .... what truthie ..... is cooking!


    Posted By: truthsayer (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:22 PM

     
     
    Well, I see that guest "I'm too stupid to think of a posting handle for myself" shit for brains is back, complaining that Sting can't be a heel, because he's being cool. A little history lesson for the idiot child: good heels have always been cool. The greatest heel ever, Nature Boy Buddy Rogers, was also the coolest wrestler of his era. The great heel of the 80s was none other than that limosine riding, lear jet flying, Dirtiest Player in the Game, Slick Ric Flair, the coolest wrestler of his era. The huge boost in the popularity of wrestling in the 90s was spearheaded by the NWO angle, featuring Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, two cool heels. Meanwhile, in the WWF, heatless Rocky Maivia finally got over when he transformed himself into that cool heel, The Rock. Starting to get the picture yet, shit for brains? And if you're going to whine about Joe acting like a badass heel again, guess what? During the Monday Night Wars, the most over faces were Sting, Steve Austin, and Goldberg, all of whom used heel tactics, and the latter two gave what were essentially heel promos, except that they were ripping on heels instead of faces. Your problem is that you don't know shit about wrestling, and are too busy whining about how you think things should go, instead of just enjoying how things are going. And that's the truth, because truthie says so!

    Posted By: truthsayer (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM

     
     
    pretty decent show imo. Two weeks of soild build for Bound For Glory.

    Posted By: DP (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:47 PM

     
     
    "Well, I see that guest "I'm too stupid to think of a posting handle for myself" shit for brains is back, complaining that Sting can't be a heel, because he's being cool. A little history lesson for the idiot child: good heels have always been cool. The greatest heel ever, Nature Boy Buddy Rogers, was also the coolest wrestler of his era. The great heel of the 80s was none other than that limosine riding, lear jet flying, Dirtiest Player in the Game, Slick Ric Flair, the coolest wrestler of his era. The huge boost in the popularity of wrestling in the 90s was spearheaded by the NWO angle, featuring Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, two cool heels. Meanwhile, in the WWF, heatless Rocky Maivia finally got over when he transformed himself into that cool heel, The Rock. Starting to get the picture yet, shit for brains? And if you're going to whine about Joe acting like a badass heel again, guess what? During the Monday Night Wars, the most over faces were Sting, Steve Austin, and Goldberg, all of whom used heel tactics, and the latter two gave what were essentially heel promos, except that they were ripping on heels instead of faces. Your problem is that you don't know shit about wrestling, and are too busy whining about how you think things should go, instead of just enjoying how things are going."

    Hey, dumbass, Ric Flair and the NWO cheated and were bad people even though they were cool. They were heels.

    Sting, on the other, is a babyface, plain and simple. Not only is he cool, he is right and even respectful of Joe. He is doing a much better job of being a babyface than TNA's top babyface.

    Also, Austin and Goldberg never got their wins taken away for not being able to control themselves and acting like idiots.

    But, hey, what do I know? I've only been a fan for over 20 years who has already seen a young vs. old angle botched by having the veterans come off as better than the incompetent young guys.


    Posted By: Guest#8085 (Guest)  on September 25, 2008 at 11:53 PM

     
     
    Dude they need to sign SLYK WAGNER BROWN and fast, ive seen him on the independent scene and his shit is flawless and he was in Roxxi's rough cuts! Untapped talent there!

    Posted By: TNA? TNA? TNA? (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 AM

     
     
    According to TNA's website, Jeff Jarrett is upset over Angle's recent comments about TNA's booking and all the gimmick matches and will be confronting Angle about it next week on Impact.

    Wouldn't it hilarious (in a sad way) if Angle was told to make those comments, with TNA thinking it would make him a HEEL? Imagine if Jarrett (the babyface, mind you) comes out next week, tries to say Angle is wrong and tries to defend all the gimmick matches.


    Posted By: Guest#2126 (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 12:21 AM

     
     
    "thats right,keep watching,keep watching,i know its crap but is there something you(fans)can do about it? no!! im in control"

    Posted By: Mr.Vince Russo (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 12:41 AM

     
     
    Another enjoyable week from TNA the only gripe is that when they do a Title vs. Title match can TNA PLEASE try to make the other champion look good by giving the match more then four minutes. I found myself saying "that's it?" I want to enjoy Bashir and what are they going to do for Bashir for Bound for Glory? I don't think I seen Creed or Petey anywhere?

    Posted By: Colin (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 01:47 AM

     
     
    So does anyone else think it'll be Roxxi vs. Awesome Kong at Bound For Glory?? Hopefully, Kong defeats Taylor in the nest coming weeks and then Roxxi can finally win the title, preferrably at Bound For Glory...

    Posted By: Sandro (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 02:57 AM

     
     
    Jesus, they say Jarrett is a 12-time world champion... ridiculous.

    but fuck him.

    great promo by Storm. I actually was worried to lose Jackie, HA!

    never a big fan of Sting, but he made me want to see the main event at the ppv. if this is his swansong in wrestling, it has the potential to become something memorable, like the Nature Boy's.

    ROXXI beating down the big bad monster was just fine.

    and Cage IS bringing back... the CHAMP!


    Posted By: tully (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 06:26 AM

     
     
    Way to make your secondary title look like utter crap. Maybe you can fall back on your other title... oh wait.

    Sweet Jesus, TNA is so frustrating. If they booked the X-Division properly and actually used their great X-Division wrestlers, they'd really have something.


    Posted By: Banz (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 07:51 AM

     
     
    I've said it before and I'll say it again......

    Sting is a lifer babyface. He could take candy from babies and he would still get a good reaction.


    Posted By: Shone Jones (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 08:47 AM

     
     
    Creed was with Jay Lethal in Joe's locker room, saying they were with Joe.

    The promos have gotten better and better for mostly everyone in the company.


    Posted By: Timbo (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 09:25 AM

     
     
    I hate to say it, because I'm not rooting for TNA to fail, but these worked/shoot angles do NOT work. They are falling into the old NWO/WCW trap of the late 90's. That angle only worked in the beginning because HULK HOGAN TURNED BAD. It doesn't matter the context in which he turned bad. People I think wrongly attribute the success of WCW in the mid-to-late 90's to the NWO angle, when it was really all about the fascination people had in watching the "bad" Hulk Hogan character evolve. The whole NWO vs. WCW angle quickly became stagnant and once the powerful Austin character developed over in the WWE it was curtains for WCW.

    Now, I will say at least TNA has the advantge of having a much more talented roster with which to work this angle. Samoa Joe, AJ, Angle are all guys who can carry an angle by their matches alone, something the Hall, Nash and Hogans of the world couldn't do back in the day. But in watching Sting's interview last night, it doesn't seem right that he mentioned some of his bitterest arch enemies as being his "friends". Flair was his friend? They fueded for 15 years! We all know wrestling is fake, but come on, save it for the shoot interviews. I took away from that Sting interview last night that Sting was upset because him and Joe aren't friends like he and Flair and that they are fighting at Bound for Glory so that Sting can help his career and become his buddy, albeit in a tough love sort of way. That makes no sense, and I fear this angle is devolving into breaking kayfabe for the sake of breaking kayfabe and nothing more. Powerful personalities and individual rivalries make wrestling successful, not locker room factions brought out in front of the camera. Not good.


    Posted By: guest (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM

     
     
    OMG! MONSTERS BALL! Seriously, it's a cool sounding name, but what makes it any different than these other creatively titled hardcore matches we get week in week out?

    Posted By: max doig (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 10:54 AM

     
     
    Suckering AJ and Joe into positions where he can drop them on their heads doesn't strike you as a heel tactic? Calling Joe unworthy of being a champ is being respectful of him? Sure it is, at least on every day that the sun comes up in the West.

    Austin and Goldberg got over by acting like total badasses. Joe originally got over by acting like a total badass. A badass doesn't care if a decision is reversed, as long as he gets to send a message to his opponent: this is what I'm going to do to you.

    I've been watching wrestling for 50 years, and it's obvious to anyone with a brain that this angle is being handled much better than the millionaires/new blood angle during WCW's final days. What do you know? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU KNOW! Because you don't know shit, and that's the truth, because truthie says so!


    Posted By: truthsayer (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 05:24 PM

     
     
    23:45

    Posted By: Guest#7077 (Guest) on September 25, 2008 at 11:05 PM


    DO you think back in the attitude era, fans were count how much wrestling was there. NO! Stop smarking up the place


    Posted By: Swagger (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 05:49 PM

     
     
    The phrase "one step forward, two steps back" rings true here. TNA is obviously better than WWE when it comes to promoting their women's division. Whereas WWE treats the women like pure eye-candy, TNA actually puts time and effort into giving the women the respective personalities.

    I thought the Sting promo was great---if he were being booked as a face. The problem with this storyline had been laid out many times on this site: the heels are being booked like faces and the faces like heels. Sting is the voice of reason while Joe comes across as a smart-alecky "know-it-all" punk. The fact is the fans will do not want to boo Sting. Trust me, they'll turn on Joe first and that is not what TNA needs right now.


    Posted By: Wesgr81 (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 06:29 PM

     
     
    "Sting's interview last night, it doesn't seem right that he mentioned some of his bitterest arch enemies as being his "friends". Flair was his friend? They fueded for 15 years! We all know wrestling is fake, but come on, save it for the shoot interviews"

    Posted By: guest (Guest) on September 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM

    He was just mentioning how he had great respect for those guys. It makes perfect sense seeing as he hasn't wrestled anyone of those guys for years and on kayfabed terms, it does makes sense for sting to call ric his friend because the last time that they were in a ring together was the last nitro in which they hugged after their match.


    Posted By: cj (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 07:24 PM

     
     
    "The phrase "one step forward, two steps back" rings true here. TNA is obviously better than WWE when it comes to promoting their women's division. Whereas WWE treats the women like pure eye-candy, TNA actually puts time and effort into giving the women the respective personalities."

    Please actually watch what WWE is doing with their women these days.

    No bikini contests. No beauty contests. They are just having wrestling matches and traditional wrestling storylines over titles and dislike for each other, plus new ideas (the Bellas being the first female identical twins ever in WWE and using it to their advantage).


    Posted By: Guest#7137 (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 07:50 PM

     
     
    "I thought the Sting promo was great---if he were being booked as a face. The problem with this storyline had been laid out many times on this site: the heels are being booked like faces and the faces like heels. Sting is the voice of reason while Joe comes across as a smart-alecky "know-it-all" punk. The fact is the fans will do not want to boo Sting. Trust me, they'll turn on Joe first and that is not what TNA needs right now."

    Exactly. This angle is backwards and will only hurt Joe if it continues in this manner.


    Posted By: Guest#9473 (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 07:52 PM

     
     
    To answer the premise of Monster's Ball being different from other Hardcore matches is two fold. One they fall in and out of love with the original concept of no food and water for the competitors and them being locked in a dark room for twenty four hours before the match. But the real difference is the fact that its a multi man match here in lies the ball aspect. Its just like why its called money in the bank rather than number one contender's ladder match. Usually the match is filled with evil or extreme characters and one babyface. This year looks to be different though but I dobut with the people invovled that they will water down the gimmick.

    Posted By: Tapp (Guest)  on September 26, 2008 at 10:25 PM

     
     
    Have to say I disagree with you on the Booker T vs AJ match. I paid close attention to the crowd reaction and the crowd seemed into it. Its hard to describe Booker T's style. He's not balls to the wall. He's more methodical and for a veteran, I think that works more in his favor. He allowed AJ to get in some considerable offense and at the same time he was able to counter his offense effectively. It was a very back and forth match. Booker T brought it for a second week in row i.m.o.

    I thought Sheik Bashir looked good in the match as well. Sure he got beat in four minutes, but the majority of it was spent working over Samoa Joe's leg. His only downfall was bullying the referee. Otherwise Bashir dictated the pace of the match. Joe went over, but Bashir looked good for a good portion of the match so to say he looked like shit is a bit of an overreaction.


    Posted By: bighustle (Guest)  on September 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM

     
     
    I believe Sting IS playing a heal at the moment. Who actually enjoys being preached at? Stings and his "I know what's best for you" attitude pisses me off. I prefer my faces to be bad ass and confident. Sting's omitting a Melba-toast aura that should be aggravating most fans. Remember people crapped on the Rocky Miavia character for the same reason.

    Posted By: TheRealParagon (Guest)  on September 28, 2008 at 12:10 AM

     
     
    I think whats so good about this sting/joe feud is that everyone has an opinion on who's in the right..I'm leaning towards Joe here, so will be wanting joe to win at BFG. Sting hasn't done anything for years whilst people like Joe & AJ have built the company up with their blood, sweat and tears...Go on Joe kick his ass at BFG and send him into retirement!

    Posted By: Lukas (Guest)  on September 28, 2008 at 02:17 PM

     
     
    Samoa Joe sucks.
    I hate that guy.
    He makes me turn my TV off.


    Posted By: Guest#1598 (Guest)  on September 28, 2008 at 04:01 PM

     
     
    Well ya know something Unnamed Guest? The Truthster is gonna run wild all over you if you don't admit that TNA is the greatest wrestling promotion ever dude! Truthamania lives and breaths in these veins, brah. I'm here cutting promos on other posters and will continue to do so until I climb the mountain and be hailed as the greatest poster on the wrestling section of an internets site, because I can't do anything about my pathetic real life, dude! And if ya didn't know, now ya know!

    Posted By: truthsayer (Registered)  on September 28, 2008 at 10:11 PM

     
     
    wow jo kills the the x division again nicely played tna, original x division featured Daniels,Aj,Williams,Kaz,Sabin,Shelley could all take the title at any time at least thats how it seemed now the xdivison is a joke now

    Posted By: Rob (Guest)  on September 29, 2008 at 01:57 AM

     
     
    "I believe Sting IS playing a heal at the moment. Who actually enjoys being preached at? Stings and his "I know what's best for you" attitude pisses me off. I prefer my faces to be bad ass and confident."

    He is bad-ass and confident. A couple weeks ago, he handed Joe the bat and still took down Joe while un-armed.


    Posted By: Guest#2130 (Guest)  on September 30, 2008 at 07:01 PM

     


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