411's WWE Smackdown Report 11.14.08
Posted by Scott Rutherford on 11.14.2008
Promo of the year...Jeff Hardy? Seriously? Also contains bonus writers rant!
Welcome once again to your Smackdown recap. Thanks for Steve Cook for the fill-in last week. Why wasn't I here? None of your f'n business.
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To this weeks show…
- Highlights package of Jeff Hardy going off the deep end last week and attacking The Undertaker.
Cue the intro…
- We're "live" in Manchester, England with Tazz and J.R.
- The house lights are down and the ring is bathed in blue lights with a casket in the middle. We hear The Undertakers voice as he narrates the hell that awaits The Big Show. I may be wrong but I swear blind I heard him say…
There once was a HHH form Nantucket,
Who took Katie Vicks body to a casket and fucked it,
It wouldn't fit in, so he lubed her rear end,
And Vince was so inspired he jerked off in a bucket
…but I may be wrong.
Suddenly the casket opens and The Undertaker is inside. Before he can speak Jeff Hardy appears on the ‘Tron. We can't see his face but he starts talking and reveals face paint that makes Heath Ledger's Joker seem well balanced
…should I be afraid of tonight he asks? Should he be sorry for last week? He's tired of being sorry. The Undertaker lives in a world of black and white but he lives in a world of grey that allows him to do the things that others just can't do. For tonight, it's the emotion, it's the frustrations, it's the anger, it's the rage, it's the RECK-LESS-NESS and insanity is what will make him win. Undertaker…tonight it's extreme.
So be it Jeff Hardy…tonight you will rest…in…peace.
(I don't usually rate segments but holy friggin' hell that was GREAT. Forget the casket stuff, that Jeff Hardy promo was MONEY. He's always portrayed as living on the edge but he explained why he lives there and was actually saw it physically. I hope they continue down this road because there are positive strands of early Mankind-like characterisation in this and Jeff is long overdue for a personality. If I had to star rate it….****)
Match#1: Matt Hardy vs. Shelton Benjamin – Non-Title Hurrapop: Shelton Benjamin looks like the love child of Gary Coleman and "Hacksaw" Butch Reed…I'm just saying.
Shelton takes down Hardy to start, get's the front face lock and then settles into a side headlock. A whip into the ropes by Hardy but Shelton shoulder blocks him for the effort and gets a two count. Benjamin gets a side headlock on the Matt but Hardy counters into a head scissors, gets his own side headlock and Shelton escapes and hits the armbar. Matt fights out with a series of rights and nails an elbow off a whip for a two count. Hammerlock by Hardy, Shelton tries to counter with a snap mere but Matt holds on during the roll through and Shelton is still on the defensive. Shelton tries a body slam and the same thing happens as we head to a commercial break…
…We're back and the two are trading blows, a Shelton charge to the corner gets nothing but Matts boot in his face as Hardy hits a 2nd rope elbow for a near fall. Matt starts to favour the left knee after that and tries a vertical suplex, Shelton continues over and lands on his feet and takes out the bad knee. He starts to work it over and gets a spinning toehold but stops to give Matt a short arm clothesline which Hardy counters with the side effect for a close 2 count. Matt hits the clothesline/bulldog combo coming out of the corner for another 2 count but misses an elbow drop. Shelton misses a spinning wheel kick but comes back around and just nails Matt with a big boot to the face for another near fall. Matt staggers defensively to the corner and Benjamin hits two big corner splashes but a third time gets stopped with a clothesline but a twist of fate gets countered into a backbreaker for Benjamin who then puts Matt on the top rope but Matt fights back with some elbows, hits a top rope moonsalt for a close 2 count. The do a counter/reverse sequence which ends with Shelton applying a single leg crab but Hardy makes the ropes and Shelton lays some boots in and hits the chop block to the bad knee but Matt nails the twist of fate out of nowhere for the three.
(Surprisingly sluggish match for these two. They managed to incorporate some Hardy leg stuff, but it ultimately led nowhere. Nothing actively bad just a little on the slow side with what we'd expect from these two. **1/4)
Match #2: The Brain Kendrick w/Ezekiel vs. Carlito w/Primo
Lock-up to start. Kendrick goes behind but reversed by Carlito and ends up applying a side headlock on the mat, Kendrick counters with a head scissors and Carlito forces his way out with a kip-up. Brain takes the legs out from Carlito but misses a clothesline. Carlito hits the big left hands but Brian sneaks a shoulder into the mid-section to come back but misses a clothesline off a whip, Carlito springboards over the top of Kendrick off the second rope and nails a dropkick and a deep armdrag for a 2 count. A Carlito armbar gets broken when Kendrick makes the ropes and he cheap shots Carly on the break. Brian works over the left arm but Carlito fights backs and an attempted backdrop from Brain gets countered with a sweet spinning neck breaker for a 2 count. Kendrick manages to take control again with a modified cobra clutch (anyone have a name for this?) but Carlito works his way up, Kendrick tries to keep control but misses a knee in the corner, Carlito gets some big left hands and a running knee lift/clothesline combo and then hits a springboard back elbow for a close 2. Carlito sets up Kendrick in the corner but big Zeke takes out Primo, which distracts Carlito long enough for Brain to hit The Kendrick and score the win.
(Like the match before there is nothing horrible about this but it lacked a spark and any real drama. It's just a match between two guys that do some pretty moves in the ring. Considering the personalities involved I wanted MUCH, MUCH MORE. **1/2)
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Bonus Rant
Feel free to skip over the next bit but it's something that's been bugging me about wrestling for a while now and the above match was my boiling point
This match, while not terrible is starting to become indicative of the wrestling the WWE and others are putting out. I've noticed it more while doing recaps but the "style" these days is wrestler A hits a move or three, wrestler B sells for 30 second comes back with his own couple of moves. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
What ever happened to the extended heat sequence? Because the lack of one right now is killing in ring action and the crowds with it.
Even the main event is falling into the trap. Before people start on about ROH or any other worker friendly fed, this is par for the course EVERYWHERE. People talk about MMA starting to erode the fan base of wrestling and while there is credence in that, wrestling is getting away from what brought people into arena's and to watch on TV, drama.
My girlfriend doesn't watch wrestling or any sport for that matter but she allowed me to school her in what I think wrestling is. I showed her a couple of Mick Foley matches, explained his life's journey and all the good things we love about Mick. I then put on Foley vs. Orton from Backlash and during an EXTENDED sequence on Orton, after coping a barbed wire bat, thumbtacks, being thrown off the stage he managed to JUSSSSSST to kick out off a pin attempt and she gasped.
Knowing that it was fake, knowing there was a plan to the action she totally bought the storyline of the match and was invested in the…you guessed it, drama. Say what you will about old school wrestling they knew who to get a crowd into a match. It's why the Junk Yard Dog would get people on their feet for a friggin' bearhug.
I'm going to go there…Hulk Hogan. Crappy, terrible wrestling…absolute GENIUS worker. He could create interest and drama like no one else before him and people bought it hook, line and sinker. A good worker doesn't have to kill himself to get a match over. Period. Guys like Carlito and Kendrick have miles of personality to burn and could have created an entertaining match without barely touching each other. Instead we get bland 50/50 back and forth and no drama.
Okay….rant over. Thank you for reading.
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- Vignettes for Kazarny
- Video fellatio package for John Cena's return.
- Vicki Guerrero is in the ring…EXCUSE ME! She's allowing the match signing for HHH vs. Kozlov as long as there is no physicality. She also notes that if Jeff Hardy takes care of The Undertaker tonight, he might find himself in the match at Survivor Series. Kozlov and HHH make their way to the ring. HHH notes it's kind of special in the ring tonight, it's sort of like a UN. We have a Russian, a Mexican and someone form Fatlavia…he's kidding, Vicki's really from Bulgegaria….no no, he meant Chunkyslovakia.
After the fun Kozlov signs the contract and lets fly in Russian. I ran this through the 411 translator and this is what he said….American woman with their trimmed poontang makes him sick. He likes hairy, Russian pussy soaked in vodka so he catches no disease. He will start a movement in the US that also has themes in the recent election…BRING BACK THE BUSH!!!!
Unfortunately for HHH he didn't have my translation handy so he tells Kozlov that this isn't his first BBQ and he's been in this situation many times before where as Vlad hasn't….but before things have a chance to get out of control Jeff Hardy makes the run-in. Splashes Vlad through the table, rips up the contract and throws it in Helmsly's face.
Match #3: MVP vs. Kung Fu Naki
Lock-up and MVP takes control but before the we can get into it, The Great Khali w/Ranjin comes out, KARATE KIDE CRANE KICK OF INFINITE COOL form Funaki and he scores the win.
(No match=n/r)
- Khali gets in the ring and it's time fro the UK Edition of the Khali Kiss KCam! We go through the usual routine with Khali intermittently taking out MVP and leaving him knocked out in the ring. Ranjin picks something even a prison-lifer wouldn't touch and Khali licks the lips to go in (GREAT VISUAL…albeit disturbing) but gets the idea for her to kiss the prone MVP. MVP skatters when he comes too.
Match #4: Michelle McCool vs. Maria – Diva's Title Match Hurrapop: Diva time…yeah…I'm just saying.
Lock up to start as McCool gets the takedown and here is Festus lead by Jesse with a nice teddy bear for Maria. Maria takes control, gets an elbow off a corner charge and an enzuguri for 2. Maria hits some forearms but a backdrop attempt gets counters by McCool into an anklelock and Maria taps out.
(Crappy match barely a minute long. N/R)
- The final bell sends Festus nuts and he chases McCool out of the ring and very intensely helps Maria up and gives her the bear.
Match #5: The Undertaker vs. Jeff Hardy – Extreme Rules
Big pop for Hardy, as there has been throughout the show. Hardy evades to start, he hits a series of running forearms but eats a big boot on the third go round. ‘Taker misses an elbow drop and Hardy clotheslines him to the floor. UT lands on his feet but Jeff knocks him down with a rope-assisted kick through the ropes. Jeff to the outside and he runs the rails and nails UT. Hardy to the opposite rail but this doesn't go as well as UT rams him into the steps as we go for a break…
…back from the break and we see highlights of UT running Jeff's back into the corner post on the outside. We back in the ring as UT lands the big soup bones then tosses Hardy again to the floor. Whip into the barricade and a head ram into the announce table give UT the advantage and he lays Hardy on the apron, grabs a chair and lays it on Jeff's head and nails the gullitine legdrop. Another ram into the ring steps leaves Jeff half under the ring apron. He comes up with a Kendo stick and unleashes some UNICORN PAIN with a bunch of cane shots. Undertaker realises he's the f'n Undertaker and starts getting pissed and boots Hardy to the face to stop the onslaught. UT with the cane and he drills Jeff so hard he falls to the floor and follows him down and gives him two big headbutts but misses a running boot and crotches himself on the barricade. Hardy unleashes a flurry of punches but UT again realises he's in trouble and gets out with a massive soup bone right hand. Hardy reverses a posting attempt and gets one of his own and nails a stairs-assisted poetry in motion. Back in and Hardy tries some more right hands but gets stopped by the big headbutt. Old school rope-walk gets broken up and Jeff goes under the ring and it's stop….ladder time!!! Before Jeff can use it ‘Taker grabs it and trows it at Jeff in the corner. Corner whip gets countered by Jeff with the whisper in the wind and here comes The Big Show. He tosses Jeff to the floor, chokeslam on UT but Jeff tries someone off the tope rope which gets him caught by TBS but UT breaks that up with a chair shot, Hardy then grabs the chair, nails Undertaker, legdrop off the top of the ladder and there's you winner!
HOLY FUCK!
We go backstage and Vicki tells Jeff that if he can beat HHH next week, he's in the Survivor Series main event.
(I know some of my readers have been down on my use of a certain F word but I stand by my use here. Great main event. The story of this match was so well told. Crazy high flyer is trying to win the match by throwing EVERYTHING at his bigger, stronger opponent who always manages to stop him with huge blows. The upstart endures some serious pain but manages to get the advantage time and again because he gone completely mental. I didn't even mind the interference because Hardy still had to win the match, he just used the moment that presented itself to his advantage. Much better than their ladder match classic from 2002. ****1/4)
The 411: Jeff Hardy strikes gold. I'm sure the naysayers will be out calling it Sting-lite but this was VERY Jeff Hardy in terms of how it came across. Seriously, if he makes it to Survivor Series and this character is still on play, I'm ordering the PPV. Rest of the show was typical SD! with little or no direction for the undercard but Hardy saves the day in a big way.
To be fair, what more could they have done with the 85 seconds they were given? How do you have even a decent match in that amount of time?
Posted By: Guest#8958 (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I'm agreeing about the Jeff Hardy character direction. I was actually intrigued when he popped up on the titantron. That was truly a great moment and could be the beginning of something very interesting.
Posted By: future (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Man, One thing I'm loving is that creative is really thinking outside the box with Jeff Hardy.
Posted By: xLx (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:27 PM
"Undertaker realises he's the f'n Undertaker and starts getting pissed"
Brilliance.
Posted By: Alvaro (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Jeff looked like a freak. I loved it.
Posted By: William (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM
"(Crappy match barely a minute long. N/R)"
There been a lot of good 60-90 second long matches?
Posted By: Guest#5735 (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Opening segment was awesome LOVED IT!!! I think Jeff Hardy has found a personality gave me goosebumps.ME was brillant Jeff Hardy was definitly the MVP of SD tonight.
Posted By: Jackman (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:44 PM
The Jeff Hardy show. Opening promo was career defining.
Main event was off the chart. Hardy was doing everything he could to gain any type of advantage on taker.
They really need to have jeff hardy walk the line of sanity and slowly become unglued. I just hope that jeff can stay focused and keep up the intensity.
Posted By: eddie chicago (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 10:48 PM
jeff Hardy Facepaint suits him,he seemed comfortable in his own skin for once on camera ,his best promo to date !!
Posted By: Pheo (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Hey Scott go back and watch the TBK vs Carlito match again,those two had a great match and carlito was on his Game along with TBK..
Posted By: pheo (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:11 PM
"- Video fellatio package for John Cena's return."
Aaaaaannnnd... I'm already sick of him from watching those even before they brought him back... Can't they seriously grasp the concept of "shoving down the fans' throats"? Somehow he was getting huge cheers when they were NOT pushing him over and everywhere.
Posted By: Guest#6746 (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:16 PM
"Lock up to start as McCool gets the takedown and here is Festus lead by Jesse with a nice teddy bear for Maria."
Holy Uncle Elmer and Cousin Junior!!! It's the motherfucking Norman the Lunatic 2008!
Posted By: Sarcastro (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Hardy's face paint is nothing more than a Sting rip off?
Posted By: Nicole (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:20 PM
im kinda mad i missed this if you say its better then the taker/hardy ladder match, that match was great there was a point where i actually thought hardy was going to pull it out
Posted By: joe (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:20 PM
"I know some of my readers have been down on my use of a certain F word but I stand by my use here."
Oh, come on, what's the big fucking deal, bitch? Let's fucking keep saying 'fuck' every single fucking word every one of us, it's not like it's fucking hurting any-fucking-body, isn't it? In fact it only makes us that fucking more cool! Come on, you all know the words!
BEEF-CAKE!
Posted By: Eric Cartman (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Jeff Hardy is now randomly awesome outside of matches. He is now SANTINO/MORRISON/JERICHO/HBK levels of awesome by taking the best WCW gimmick ever and making it his own. I originally didn't care if he won the WWE title or not, but now I want him to win the title more than I even wanted Jericho to win that cage match (and I wanted that as badly as I wanted Sting to beat Hogan at Starcade).
also,
"Aaaaaannnnd... I'm already sick of him from watching those even before they brought him back... Can't they seriously grasp the concept of "shoving down the fans' throats"? Somehow he was getting huge cheers when they were NOT pushing him over and everywhere. "
I liked them when they are showed on Raw, although I don't like them showing those videos THREE TIMES A WEEK. However, at least this makes it even more likely to go back to awesome "Let's go Cena, Cena sucks" chants.
Posted By: markhenrysquash3028239 (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:30 PM
why so serious?
Posted By: heath (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:35 PM
I agree that this is a great character development for Hardy. The big question for me though is what happens when Edge gets back. Imagine if they somehow managed to keep Hardy face and had Edge keep his Joker-like persona. Hell I know I'd watch it.
Posted By: Adam B. (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Hey I heard there were a few movies and similar items of cultural significance released in 2008 OTHER THAN THE DARK KNIGHT.
Posted By: I Loved the Movie But Stop It (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 12:01 AM
"Am I the only one who thinks Hardy's face paint is nothing more than a Sting rip off?"
Am I the only one who thinks Sting's face paint is nothing more than a Crow rip off?
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on November 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
"Am I the only one who thinks Hardy's face paint is nothing more than a Sting rip off?
Posted By: Nicole (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:20 PM"
You mean the "Crow" character that sting ripped off?
Posted By: The Diceman (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Hey Scott go back and watch the TBK vs Carlito match again,those two had a great match and carlito was on his Game along with TBK..
Posted By: pheo (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:11 PM
My point was, these guys can have a good match without trying. My gripe was that the match itself is bland considering the personalities involved. TBK could easily provide enough believable offense for a good extended heat sequence but the "you hit your move and then I'll hit mine" stuff is just getting sobland these days.
I also was trying to push the thought that they could have done a match of armbars and headlocks and still made it fun and watchable because they have personality out the yingyang.
I fear that great workers are a thing of the past and I don't blame the lose of territories, I blame it on 50/50 booking and some notion you have to get back your heat. If your over it doesn't matter how much you get beaten....case in point Jericho and JBL.
Okay, another off track rant.
Jeff Hardy is aaaaaawesome.
Posted By: Scott Rutherford (Registered) on November 15, 2008 at 12:09 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was more Joker-lite then Sting-lite.
Posted By: Devin (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
The Benjamin/Hardy match was MUCH better than just 2+ stars. A nice slow paced match where Benjamin showed generalship and countered everything big Matt did. It took more luck than actual skill for Matt to win on the storytelling aspect alone.'
Jeff vs Undertaker was a good match but it's supposed to be...it's a gimmick match..something these two both excel at. The more extreme Hardy i something to keep an eye out for.
Posted By: Erik (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 12:17 AM
"Am I the only one who thinks Hardy's face paint is nothing more than a Sting rip off?
Posted By: Nicole (Guest) on November 14, 2008 at 11:20 PM"
So.....because Sting wore face paint, anyone in the post-Sting wrestling world who wears face paint is ripping him off?
Hardy looked freaking AWESOME in that opening promo.
Posted By: Chay (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 12:47 AM
"Am I the only one who thinks Hardy's face paint is nothing more than a Sting rip off?"
Am I the only one who thinks Sting's face paint is nothing more than a Crow rip off?
Posted By: Darth Mortis
Check.... & mate, Nicole.... Cue the Price i$ Right "losing ditty"...
Posted By: theHomewrecker! (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Good grief to the losers who claim to be wrestling fans you are losers and this isn't even close to the best wrestling show.
Posted By: Guest#2603 (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 01:14 AM
great stuff from Hardy. I am a huge sting fan Huge Huge and when I saw Jeff's prome sting didn't cross my mind. It was all hardy's. the face paint is just xtreme. I was memerize with Jeff performance tonite. wrestling needs to keep this kind of stuff up.
Posted By: yincia (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 01:44 AM
I'm suprise that people aren't whining about McCool using the Anklelock or about squashing Maria but meh.
And Jeff was awesome tonight. I wonder if he'll still have the facepaint next week.
Posted By: Metalingus (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:05 AM
what's up with overating the match because you have a boner for jeff hardy?
Posted By: it doesn't matter whatmynameis (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:38 AM
It's funny how EVERYBODY is bashing The Dead Man each week on and out for "never jobbing out" and "elevating people to the next level" and that's EXACTLY WHAT HE DID last NIGHT and NOBODY is Praising The MAN ?
The guy is having four to five stars match on a REGULAR BASIS with EVERYONE since his return as "The Dead Man" at Mania XX in 2004 .
He is performing at a PHENOMENAL LEVEL .
He made Jeff F'N Hardy looking like a BILLION BUCKS PROSPECT last night .
AND Yes Hardy is a cheap STING's RIP OFF .
I guess it's a cheap shot at the late WCW and TNA Right ?
Now let me telling it like it is .
Hardy had already blown away opportunities after opportunities each time he was gave the ball to run it.....
The guy has gotten clean wins over THE BIGGEST ONES
HHH (TWICE for the IC Title a few years and Armaggeddon last year) HBK (Cleaner than EVER on RAW) and TAKER yesterday .
Now it's time for making it to the very top or DIE for One Jeff Hardy .
You can't get a BIGGER and BETTER Push than this .
Prove you're worth it or f'n Die Man.....
Posted By: Mike Mizanin (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:41 AM
Wow you idiots suddenly love Jeff Hardy? His performance tonight just reminded me of his drugged up coke sniffing ways that he's been suspended twice for, end of the year, Jeff will be gone.
Posted By: Harry (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:45 AM
Jeff is on fire right now, and I thought his momentum was all but dead after the Cyber Sunday loss. Not so, and he's really becoming the complete star WWE knows he can become. Now, if he can just keep away from strike three, we can see a new WWE Champion.
Posted By: Texter Morgan (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 03:05 AM
why so extreme, mr hardy?!
Posted By: daniel (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 03:45 AM
I know it's been said 20 times already, but Jeff Hardy was amazing tonight. Aside from his back-to-normal line delivery at the very end of the show, everything he did came across beautifully. Especially the opening promo, which was easily the best he's ever done. This truly could be a turning point for his career. Let's hope everything falls into place to make that true!
Also he's not ripping off Sting or the Joker. The characters have little in common besides the paint. Sting wore his to convey his isolation and loneliness at flying solo within WCW when they doubted his allegiance against the nWo. The Joker wore his (presumably) to cover his disfigured face and add an air of intimidation and psychotic feel to his anarchist persona. Hardy wore it to show the reflection of his "grey" outlook and the fact that his outside was further matching the turmoil on the inside. Very different characters. Very different reasoning. All awesome!
Posted By: Guest#5257 (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 04:32 AM
The beginning Taker/Hardy promo segment was PURE GOLD! The main event was just as great b/c even though there was slight interference from Show, Hardy somehow uses that to his advantage and gets the rare victory over the Deadman. Getting back to the opening segment though, Jeff really put it down on this one. The face paint, the background, it was all to the good. I mean this character is finally being unlocked. It's like he's went from full babyface to alternating between face, tweener, and a cool heel(which is rare). I think the fire already lit under his ass has gotten hotter. We all knew him to be a chaser, but something tells me his chase may finally come to an end. Let's keep our fingers crossed and pray on it. Come with it, Jeff! Come with it!
Posted By: supershock360 (Registered) on November 15, 2008 at 04:35 AM
"Wow you idiots suddenly love Jeff Hardy? His performance tonight just reminded me of his drugged up coke sniffing ways that he's been suspended twice for, end of the year, Jeff will be gone.
Posted By: Harry (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:45 AM"
I've allways liked jeff hardy........
Posted By: Matt P (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 07:26 AM
For some reason I can see the WWE putting the belt on this "new" Jeff Hardy. Even though there's all the risk involved, I really can see Jeff winning the strap at Survivor Series.
I wasn't too bothered before hand, but if he keeps this character up, I'll be VERY interested to see where they go with it. It would be sweet to see 'Taker vs Hardy for the strap at the Rumble.
Posted By: Parxy (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 08:37 AM
The Main event was a ton of fun but cetainly not ****1/4 in my book.
Still Hardys new carracter is cool & i might actually be ok with him wining the wwe title now.
Posted By: jbardo (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Great fucking promo from Jeff Hardy & Taker tonite. Hardy actually scared me for a bit. I didn't know who Taker was talking about first either Show or Jeff. Still and their match was fucking awesome, even though I knew Show was going to get involved.
Posted By: Mr. Jack. Napier (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM
I love how anyone here was bashing him out for months and all of a sudden it's COOL to Claim Jeff Hardy is "AWESOME"
Epic LOL at all those hypocrits who are all of a sudden kissing his ass for portraying....
AN EMO CHARACTER !
Wow fantastic !
The guy wears a lame paint face and does an EMO Impernation and they're marking out like fuck !
Hardy is the same dude who ve blown golden opportunities after golden ones .
He won't fool me out unlike anyone else commenting here and I'm still thinking he is not worth getting any single WWE Title Gold till he gets A WORK ETHIC and RESPECT for THIS BUSINESS.....
Posted By: EmoFacePaintHardy (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 01:13 PM
"Wow you idiots suddenly love Jeff Hardy? His performance tonight just reminded me of his drugged up coke sniffing ways that he's been suspended twice for, end of the year, Jeff will be gone.
Posted By: Harry (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:45 AM"
FINALLY SOMEONE with LUCIDITY and not acting like a biased and blinded smark who is changing his mind on every single second just because a druged out waste of time like Hardy is wearing a FACE PAINT !
JEFF HARDY = EMO JOKE
Posted By: WellSaidHarry (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 01:24 PM
Jeff Hardy's look on the titantron was a mix of Heath Ledger's Joker and that puppet in the SAW movies. Creepy awesomeness from Jeff.
Posted By: Redvic (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Hardy shouldn't win at Survivor Series. He needs to continue walking the fine line of sanity/insanity. He keeps it up until the Royal Rumble and wins it and then wins at Mania. ... or finishes as the runner up at Rumble, wins the MITB and cashes it in post-main event.
Posted By: Patrick (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:39 PM
Jeff Hardy's face paint doesn't make him emo. It was the debut of Black Metal Jeff Hardy since he was wearing corpse paint. I'm surprised he didn't come out to Call of the Wintermoon by Immortal. It would have been funny to watch him blowing fire and randomly posing every few seconds on the way to the ring. If you don't know what I am talking about, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBdAY8eA9w
Posted By: Guest#0266 (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 02:41 PM
I have to admit that was by far Jeff Hardy's best promo ever. Now to make it work, two things he needs to do are:
1. Permanently lose the retard dance when he comes out.
2. Be very careful not to let his dumb-as-fuck Southern hick accent slip like it did in the last shot with Vicki.
Posted By: Slick (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 06:27 PM
Anyone who still doubts how awesome Jeff Hardy is needs to go and see a live event. I was at the Smackdown tapings in Manchester and Jeff practically carried the fucking show. He put on the best promo this year on TV, put in an awesome performance- selling the Undertaker brilliantly as well as getting huge pops from the crowd for his usual high flyer stuff.
Then an hour or so later during the second taping, he puts on a brilliant match against HHH (carrying hunter through it).
He is an awesome performer, one of the most over superstars there is- so he fully deserves a title shot.
And who gives a fuck if he sometimes gets pissed at airports?
Posted By: Voodoo (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 07:12 PM
this is why undertake's the best! he actually puts other wrestlers over, unlike some others on top with full of H's in his name.
Posted By: guesthehe (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 09:46 PM
"Am I the only one who thinks Hardy's face paint is nothing more than a Sting rip off?"
Am I the only one who thinks Sting's face paint is nothing more than a Crow rip off?
Posted By: Darth Mortis (Registered) on November 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Nice!!
Posted By: guesthehe (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Loved the new and improved Jeff Hardy. Play the whole out of control thing is great. Gives him an adge and that was a great promo for Jeff. I enjoyed Smackdown this week. And with a victor over Taker, could Survivor Series be the night or do the Jeff Marks get blue balls till Mania?
Posted By: T-Mac (Guest) on November 15, 2008 at 11:42 PM
The new Jeff Hardy direction did nothing for me. Just cause he put on some face paint does not make me like him all of a sudden.
But apparently it does for a whole lot of people here...
Posted By: Guest#5895 (Guest) on November 16, 2008 at 06:43 AM
Jeff Hardy is a faggy emo, just because he ripped off the face paint off the Crow just like the Sting before him (who was such an original guy he even ripped off a stage name off a singer) and for once said something vaguely coherent, doesn't make him any better.
Posted By: Guest#2332 (Guest) on November 16, 2008 at 01:52 PM
So...you're saying that because Sting has the Crow face paint and the stage name of a shitty singer, he's a sub-par worker?
Are you fucking ignorant?
Posted By: Crazy8 (Guest) on November 16, 2008 at 08:09 PM
All this does is prove one thing......if they really wanted to, the writers can put over ANYONE that they want to at ANY time with strong promo time and a big win over an established guy. Hardy was stale and after ONE week, he is seen as a legit threat simply because of HOW he was booked. Not because of him, but because of how he was booked. Now imagine if MVP got THAT major of a push where he was allowed to over talk the Undertaker in the opening promo and THEN come out and beat the Taker to prove why he is "Better Than You"..... it would work the same way, but for reason, others get pushes even though they are major risks and liabilities to the company, while others get thrown in the dog house OR RELEASED for small trivial things.
Posted By: Industry (Registered) on November 18, 2008 at 03:39 AM
im not the biggest fan of jeff hardy (im a fan of his spots), but his opening promo was awesome, and defintely the best one he's had in his career. there is no denying that.....
Posted By: guest (Guest) on November 18, 2008 at 04:57 PM
"So...you're saying that because Sting has the Crow face paint and the stage name of a shitty singer, he's a sub-par worker?
Are you fucking ignorant?
Posted By: Crazy8 (Guest)"
No. I'm saying that because he ripped off a name of a singer and a facepaint of a comic book character, he's unoriginal (very similar to Hulk Hogan btw). And just because Jeff Hardy now made the gigantic change in his character by ripping off the same face paint, doesn't suddenly make him cool and the best thing since online porn.
I'm assuming you're not "fucking illiterate" and actually read my post instead of just looking for an excuse to say "fuck".
Posted By: Lucky7 (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 12:40 AM
"he ripped off the face paint off the Crow just like the Sting before him (who was such an original guy he even ripped off a stage name off a singer)"
Don't forget that he also ripped his finisher off Riki Chōshū and unlike Bret Hart, he didn't even bother with changing the name significantly.
Scorpion Hold = Scorpion Deathlock.
Posted By: Guest#8351 (Guest) on November 19, 2008 at 12:45 AM
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