www.411mania.com
|  News |  Columns |  TV Reports |  Video Reviews |  Title History |  Hall of Fame |  News Report |  The Dunn List |
SPOTLIGHTS  SPOTLIGHTS
MOVIES/TV
// Irina Shayk Shows Off Her Killer Curves At Cannes
MUSIC
// Kanye West and Jay-Z's Watch the Throne 2 Confirmed
WRESTLING
// Brooke Hogan Says Hulk Didn't Know She Was in Talks With TNA
POLITICS
// Obama Leads In Florida, Ohio, & VIrginia
MMA
// 411's MMA Roundtable - UFC 146: Dos Santos vs. Mir
GAMES
// Castlevania: Lords of Shadow Sequel Teased


 HOT TOPICS
//  CM Punk
//  John Cena
//  Triple H
//  Hulk Hogan
//  Randy Orton
//  Christian
SYNDICATE  SYNDICATE



411mania RSS Feeds





Follow 411mania on Twitter!




Add 411 On Facebook
 



 
 411mania » Wrestling » TV Reports



Advertisement
411's WWE Survivor Series Report 11.23.08
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 11.23.2008



Greetings, humanity! Welcome to the 411mania.com Survivor Series Report! I am your host for the evening, Chris Lansdell, and I want to start by apologizing for the lack of live coverage. Due to circumstances beyond even the control of Larrington Q Csonka, we were unable to update you in real time. If you're looking for star ratings, head on over to Slimmer's Instant Analysis. Ready? Let's get DANGEROUS~!


Just in case we hadn't seen enough of them, we get a John Cena-Chris Jericho hype package to start us off. Is Cena coming back or something? You'd never know it.


PYRO~!


JR updates us on the Jeff Hardy "situation", neglecting to tell us anything about law enforcement. Work much?


Survivor Series Rules Match: TEAM ETHNIC: HBK, Rey Mysterio, Cryme Tyme and The Great Khali vs. TEAM FREAKY SEXY MONEY: JBL, Kane, MVP, The Miz and John Morrison

Individual entrances, it would seem. No wonder we only have 6 matches on the card, this could take a while. You can say what you want about Rey, he connects so well with his fans. Merchandise machine. JBL is an enemy of the environment and does not carpool with the rest of his team. It also seems we have everyone on commentary. Hey, remember when JBL called MVP a Power Ranger? Looks like Rey starts with MVP. Striker makes a Captain and Tenille reference!

MVP starts strong with shots in the corner to Rey. Whip, Rey ducks a clothesline and hits a head scissors. One count for Rey. JTG is in and they double-team MVP with a low sandwich dropkick, which gets 2. MVP reverses a whip but drops his head and eats a couple of fists, but he shakes them off and hits the drive-by for 3! JTG is gone! MVP celebrates and KHALI JUDO CHOP! 1...2...3! MVP is gone! Kane is in and we get a rematch from that classic Wrestlemania bout. Khali takes control with ease and lays in some elbows in the corner. Kane fights back, GOOZLE! Khali fights it off, JUDO CHOP! Tag to Rey who hits the splash off Khali`s shoulders for the 3! Ownage! Morrison back in, they miss the double clothesline and get taken down by Shad! Shad kicks some ass, then hits a powerslam on Miz followed by a ridiculous dancing elbow for 2. Morrison distracts Shad, REALITY CHECK by Miz gets the 3! Michaels makes his first appearance in the match to grapple Morrison gets the tag and hits some shots for 2 more. Anaconda Vise variation applied by Morrison. Kip up by Morrison! He goes to the top rope and tries for the HBK elbow, but misses! Tag to Rey! Tag to Miz! Rey flies around with head scissors and hits a springboard dropkick to the back of Miz! Dial it up, 619! Splash by Rey, and Miz is gone! VINTAGE MISTERIO! JBL tags himself in and CLEANS Misterio`s clock. Elbow drop gets 2. "You can`t wrestle!" chant for JBL, who is working his scintillating offence on Rey. Tag to Morrison who hits a European uppercut and chokes Rey over the rope. Backbreaker by Morrison into a backstretch. Rey escapes and goes for the wheelbarrow bulldog but gets it reversed into a backbreaker by Morrison. Tag to JBL who applies an abdominal stretch! Striker namedrops Skandor Akbar! Tremendous. Rey escapes but JBL stays in control, whip chest first followed by a SICK boot to the back of Rey`s head. JBL perches Rey on top and lays in the shots to the back of Misterio, then goes up for a super back suplex! Rey fights it off and JBL falls! MOONSAULT PRESS by Rey! Didn't catch all of it. Michaels is in! 5 moves of HBK Doom! JBL rolls away before he can hit the elbow, so Michaels hits a slingshot cross body to the outside! I smell double count out. No! Michaels makes it back in! JBL is counted out! HBK turns around, ducks Morison's super kick and hits Sweet Chin Music for the win!

Winners: Team Ethnic (Michaels and Khali survive)


JR shills the Jeff Hardy situation some more. HHH is backstage with...Eve I guess? Anyway, she asks HHH for his opinion, and he plays diplomat. He seems pretty happy to have Kozlov one on one, but that's natural I guess. Kozlov is big, bad, tough and undefeated, but he's in uncharted water. He's got butterflies, he's got nerves, it's his first WWE Championship match, and his first defeat. Cocky much?

Survivor Series Rules Match: TEAM RAW: Beth Phoenix, Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, Jillian Hall and Candice Michelle vs. TEAM SMACKDOWN: Michelle McCool, Victoria, Maria, Natalya, and Maryse

The SD girls certainly APPEAR to be a coherent unit. SANTINO~! Kelly Kelly looks imminently edible tonight.

Phoenix and McCool to start. Top wristlock by Beth, Michelle kip-ups out, but gets yanked down by the hair. BIG forearm by Beth, the exchange shots and Michelle gets a dropkick...of sorts. Tag to Maryse, who is not happy with Michelle and they get it on! Beth watches and smiles. Maria tags herself in, and gets lifted up by the throat. Maria reverses the beating in the corner and lays in some nice shots! Head scissors by Maria, Beth reverses into a front facelock. Kelly tags herself in with a sunset flip for 2, than a backslide for 1. Victoria tags herself in, huracanrana by Kelly for 3 and Victoria is gone! Maryse is in and she eats a rana for 2 only. Backbreaker by Maryse and Kelly is gone! Mickie James is in and takes control of Maryse. Charge to the corner, Maryse struggles to tag Michelle, single leg by Mickie and a jackknife cover, Michelle bridges out and they exchange near falls. Mutual admiration society time. Michelle with a boot to the gut and a whip, Mickie comes off the ropes with a forearm, Maria tries to break up the pin but hits Michelle! She's pissed, Mickie hits the Mickie-DT and gets the 3! Mickie celebrates and gets rolled up by Maryse for 3! Candace is in with Natalya now. Slap by Natalya, she tries for the Sharpshooter and gets it! Candace fights for the ropes but can't make it. Jillian breaks the hold, Natalya is distracted and Candace hits a spear for 3! Natalya is gone! Jillian is in and reverses a crucifix try into a Samoan drop! She's not even Samoan!!! 2 count only. Whip and the handspring elbow by Jillian, but Maria gets the Victory Roll for the 3! Nice reversal. Candace in, she may have pulled a hammy there but hits a Northern Lights anyway for 3 on Maria! Maryse is alone now with Candace and Beth. Figure 4 variant by Maryse and Candace taps! Watch that injury report. Beth and Maryse alone now, BIG heel kick by Maryse for 2. Whip, Beth charges into Maryse's elbow. Maryse tries for a cross body bet Beth catches her! Maryse slides out and gets a schoolgirl for 2! Glam Slam by Beth! 3 count and it's over!

Winners: Team Raw (Beth Phoenix survives)


Todd is backstage with Matt Hardy, and now all of a sudden the incident was in his hotel room. WORK WORK WORK. He confirms that Jeff was hit in the back of the head with a blunt object. Like a chair maybe?

Casket Match: The Undertaker vs. The Big Show

Show is a touch afraid, it seems. That's a new and novel approach. Nobody fears Taker. Taker's entrance: 3 minutes 47 seconds from gong to starting bell.

Taker calls for the casket to open right away. They lock up and Show with some heavy body shots early. Show charges Taker who moves and tries to tip Show into the casket, but Show avoids it. Both men to the outside, and Show regains control. Taker gets whipped into the barricade. More body shots by Show, who then rams Taker's head into the announce table. Shots to the back of Taker now, and Show is taking the monitors off one of the announce tables. Taker has a monitor and crowns Show with it! The first one missed but Show sold it anyway, the second looked better. Taker positions Show's head on the table, climbs on the adjacent table and hits a leaping leg drop on Show's head through the table! That was different. Repeated knees to the gut of Show, who is rolled back in. Arm wringer by Taker and headbutts to the shoulder of Show. Old School time! Show blocks it and hits a suplex. The crowd is SILENT. HUGE whip to the corner by Show, followed by a side slam. Show calls for the casket to be opened, Taker is rolled into the casket! Show calls for the refs to close the casket, but they won't do it! Show has to close it, but he doesn't want to touch the casket! He finally works up the courage and Taker blocks it! Taker fights his way out of the casket, ducks a couple of clotheslines and hits the leaping lariat! Running clothesline in the corner, Taker goes for a second but eats a huge back elbow by Show. Show is...going to the top??? Taker sits up and chokeslams Show off the middle rope! Taker calls for the casket now, and kicks Show in, but he's too wobbly-logged to capitalize! Taker recovers and tries to shut the lid, but Show blocks! Show is out, Goozle! Chokeslam! Show is destroying the casket! Geez I was only kidding when I said he should do that! Big Show is leaving!!! Taker sits up! Sign in the audience: "Jeff Hardy please stay clean" Amen. Big Show tries to escape, but Taker's POWERZ call forward a burning wall of fire, and it burns burns burns, the wall of fire. Show takes Taker down but TEH DRUIDZ are here with another casket! Taker is back up and gets some shots, but Show regains control and lifts the new casket on its edge before ramming Taker into it. He lifts it again and opens it, they exchange some shots and Show is teetering on the edge of the stage! He manages to avoid that plight but Taker whips him into the vertical casket, which falls and closes! New finish!

Winner: The Undertaker


Carlito and the Bella Twins are backstage with a GOBBLEDY GOOKER SIGHTING!! It's the Boogeyman!!!!!!

Orton talks to his team, trying to psych them up. Cody thinks Orton being eliminated would be a good thing, which aggravates the captain.

Survivor Series Rules Match: TEAM BATISTA: Batista, CM Punk, Kofi Kingston, Matt Hardy and R-Truth vs. TEAM ORTON: Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, Shelton Benjamin, William Regal and Mark Henry

One day, Batista is going to do his machine gun pose during the lull in his entrance theme. Orton gets a decent pop, they're going to have to address that. Manu is accompanying Rhodes, and Regal is out with the very hot Layla. God bless me the things I would do to that woman. Henry is last out with the ever-awesome Tony Atlas and his sleeveless dress shirt. If I grow up I wanna be like Tony.

Bell rings, GO TO SLEEP on Regal! 3 count! NUMEROUS FUCKING PURCHASES! Layla throws her shoe at Punk!!! Benjamin in schoolboy for 2. Benjamin gets some early shots before eating a spin kick. Tag to Kofi who hits a flying forearm for 2. Front facelock by Kofi, he turns it into an arm wringer. Shelton backs Kofi to the corner whip by Benjamin is reversed and Kofi tries for a monkey flip, but Benjamin lands on his feet only to eat a ridiculous high dropkick from Kofi for 2. Forearm by Benjamin and Mark Henry is tagged in. Clubbing blows by Henry who tags in Cody, who has an arm drag turned into a monkey flip. Hardy in, shots to the gut followed by a back elbow and an elbow drop. R-Truth in now, double arm drag to Cody gets 2. Tag to Batista and Rhodes flees. Smart boy. Benjamin tags in and lays in some knee shots, Batista shrugs them off and levels Benjamin. Suplex by Batista and a cover gets 2. Shoulders in the corner and a tag to Matt Hardy who charges into a Benjamin elbow. Tag to Orton who gets whipped in and eats a bulldog from Hardy for 2. Body slam by Matt who goes up top and misses a moonsault. Tag to Henry who stomps on Hardy and slingshots him into the middle rope. Tag to Cody, he avoids a charging Matt in the corner and they each hit a clothesline. Both men down, they tag in Truth and Benjamin. R Truth reverses a beale into a rollup for 2, then hits a BIG heel kick for 2 more. R Truth does some dancing and some splits, hits the corkscrew forearm and tries for the axe kick, but Benjamin avoids it and hits Paydirt for 3 to eliminate Truth!! Kofi in with a high cross body for a quick 2! "The Jamaican getting high!" - Striker. Big dropkick by Kofi, leaping clothesline and the Bo! Bo! Bo! Legdrop gets 2. Did Striker just namedrop Cutty Ranks??? My God I've heard it all. Kofi lays in some right hands and gets nailed from behind by Henry, who tags in. Typical big-man offence, and Orton tags in. Orton Stomp! Kofi avoids the knee drop and hits a couple of forearms, but Randy holds the arm and hangs Kofi on the ropes gut first. Kofi hits a few shoulders from the outside but Randy catches one and hits the rope-assisted DDT for 3 and the elimination. Punk in immediately with kicks and a knee to the gut. Whip and a heel kick by Punk gets 2. Punk drops his head and gets booted, tag to Rhodes who hits a sweet dropkick followed by a drop toehold into a hammerlock. Punk elbows out, ducks an elbow and hits a Kevin von Erich cross body for 1. Spinning neckbreaker for 2 more. Running high knee bulldog combo gets 2 more. Punk elevated to the apron, he kicks Rhodes and goes up top but gets distracted by Manu long enough for Rhodes to throw him off the top and hit the DDT for 3. Hardy comes in and hits a side effect for 2. He tries another but Rhodes elbows out and tags Henry. Henry charges to the corner, misses and eats an elbow to the back of the head, followed by a Side Effect! 2 count only. Hardy to the middle rope, Henry catches him and makes him 2-dimensional for the 3 with the World's Strongest Slam. Spear by Batista gets the 3! Benjamin in and Batista blocks Paydirt! Clothesline! Batista drops his head and gets kicked, but hits the spinebuster! Batista Bomb to Benjamin! 3 count and Benjamin is gone! Rhodes is in and gets a HUGE boot. Cody gets in a shot and goes up top but gets nailed and eats a powerslam. Manu on the apron, Batista gets distracted but gets Rhodes up for the Batista Bomb! No, tag to Orton! Bomb connects, Batista has the cover but Orton is legal...Batista turns right into an RKO for the 3 and we have winners!

Winners: Team Orton (Rhodes and Orton)


Kozlov says it doesn't matter who he fights, he will become the champion. JR informs us that Jeff Hardy will NOT be able to compete. We then see a package hyping his participation in the match.

WWE Title Match: HHH © vs. Vladimir Kozlov vs. Jeff Hardy

I'm sure I'm not alone in expecting a Hardy appearance before the end of this match. Super special ring announcing time.

Kozlov with a waistlock takedown early. HHH fights up and gets a headlock takedown. Kozlov tries to throw HHH off but HHH blocks and retains the hold. The crowd seem pretty pissed at the lack of Hardy. Top wristlock by Kozlov, into a facelock. HHH turns into a hammerlock and wrestles Kozlov down to the mat. "We want Hardy!" - Boston. Nice counter by Kozlov into a fireman\s carry, but HHH regains control with the hammerlock. Kozlov pushes HHH to the corner but misses the shoulder block, HHH gets an armbar for control. Wow the crowd are shitting on this. High knee by HHH, charge and a corner splash, a second one by HHH. Kozlov reverses the whip but drops his head and eats the facebuster followed by a DDT. Punches by HHH get 2. Seriously? Whip to the corner, HHH charges to a boot by Kozlov and then hits the spinebuster. Kick wham Pedigree...countered! Battering Ram headbutt and both men are down. HHH with knees to the gut, Kozlov reverses a whip and HHH goes over the top to the outside! Kozlov follows and administers beatings. HHH gets thrown back in, he tries to catch Kozlov with a cross body (!!) but Kozlov catches him and hits a fall away slam for 2. Shoulders in the corner by Kozlov, traps the arms and hits some headbutts to the sternum. Running powerslam gets 2. Shades of the Bulldog! Rear wasitlock now, that deadly submission hold. HHH breaks the hold but gets headbutted to the kidney, then eats a backbreaker for 2. This is slow, but not bad. Another backbreaker by Kozlov gets 2, and he's back to the hug. JR calls this a mat wrestling match. I call it slow. HHH with some rights to break the hold, but runs into a powerslam for 2 more. Back to the waistlock. Seriously guys? Come on, variety! Boston still wants Hardy. Again HHH breaks and again he gets headbutted to the back, followed by a belly-to-belly suplex. Kozlov stalks HHH, tries for a big headbutt in the corner but HHH moves and Kozlov catches turnbuckle. KICK WHAM PEDIGREE! Both men are down, and Vickie Guerrero is out! She has a huge grin on her face, she says He's here...IT'S EDGE! BOSTON HAS GONE NUTS! BEARDED EDGE IS HERE! MIKE KNOX'S BABY BROTHER! Edge sets for the Spear, waiting for someone to get up... SPEAR to HHH! JEFF HARDY! BOSTON EXPLODES AGAIN!!!!! Hardy has a chair! Creams HHH! Creams Kozlov! Spear to Hardy by Edge! Edge covers HHH...1...2...3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Winner, and NEW WWE champion: Edge!

Edge and Vickie celebrate as HHH looks PISSED.


World Title Match: Chris Jericho © vs. John Cena

BRRRRRRRRRRRR Imma sue! Cena gets very few boos. Surprising. Cena's new shirt is not bad, but AWA fans are going to hate it. Hmmm, 42 minutes to go and this is the last match. Finishing slightly early maybe?

Cena goes right for the FU but Jericho escapes to the outside. Lockup again, Jericho grabs a headlock and takes Cena down. Cena backs Jericho into the ropes and gets hit with a shoulder block. Cena to the outside and seems to be favoring the neck. This could be the start of some serious psychology. Cena flies back into the ring and explodes on Jericho, avoids a boot and hits the release fisherman's suplex for 1. Drop toehold, he goes for the STF-U but Jericho escapes. Kick to the midsection by Jericho and he takes control with shots to the back of the head. Whip reversed and Cena takes Jericho's head off with a clothesline. Body slam by Cena and an elbow drop gets 2. Whip to the corner, Cena charges but hits turnbuckle. Jericho with stomps to the head again. Boot to the gut by Cena and he hits the Throwback!! Cena thinks about going up for the Rocker Dropper but changes his mind and gets hit with a kick and a DDT by Jericho as he tries to come back in. Yes, there IS some psychology happening. Jericho is stalking Cena whose head is positioned by the post...BIG KICK to the head of Cena. The ref checks on Cena who is not moving, however the ref thinks Cena is fit to continue. Cena gets back into the ring at 9, but gets kicked in the head. He fights back but Jericho gains control by throwing Cena over the top. Jericho follows with a low dropkick to the head, then rams Cena to the steps. Slingshot splash to the back gets 2. Neck vise by Jericho now, Cena fights his way up and breaks the hold with pure strength. Cena off the ropes and goes for a flying shoulder tackle, but Jericho ducks and Cena hits hard. 2 count for Jericho. MASTERLOCK TIME! Cena backs Jericho into the corner to break the hold, he goes for a haymaker but Jericho avoids it and locks in the full nelson again. C'mon Jericho, Dragon Suplex! Awww, Cena breaks the hold again, elbows to Jericho who goes for the one-hand bulldog...blocked! Jericho hits the corner! Shoulder tackle by Cena! Blue Thunder countered into a bulldog by Jericho. Lionsault misses, Jericho lands on his feet but gets hit with the Blue Thunder powerbomb. It is not possible for Jericho to visually perceive Cena. Yes it is, he gets a double leg and applies the Walls of Jericho OLD SCHOOL style, all the pressure on the neck!!! MARK THE FUCK OUT! Great escape by Cena but he gets leveled with a clothesline. Jericho goes back to the Walls, the normal version this time. Cena is not really trying to escape, this looks wrong. OK now he's fighting for the ropes and makes it. Jericho argues with the ref, then goes back after Cena but gets hit with a sudden FU! Both men are down! Cena crawls over for a cover but gets a 2 count only. Cena charges Jericho in the corner but eats a stiff elbow. Jericho climbs the ropes and takes Cena with him, both men perched on the outside of the middle rope, exchanging shots. Headbutt and Jericho goes down! Cena is on top, ROCKER DROPPER! FU try...NO! Codebreaker! Can he cover? 1...2...2.77! Jericho is incredulous!

Jericho stalks Cena and hits a big clothesline. Jericho stalking again, another big clothesline. Cena has sold everything so well tonight. Jericho is set again, possibly looking for a third...Drop toehold! STF-U! Saw that coming. Jericho is fighting for the ropes...Cena drags him back! Kick to the face by Cena! Small package by Jericho...1...2...NO! Cena stands up WITH JERICHO! FU!!! 1...2...3!! New champion!

Winner, and NEW World Champion: John Cena


Cena celebrates with family and friends in the crowd, we get replays of the finish. Cena heads to the back as we go off air.


Post Comment (193)  |  Email Chris Lansdell  |  View Chris Lansdell's 411 Profile

  Send To Friend  |    Stumble It!  |    Digg It!  | 



Please add your comment below.
If you are registered, you can login and post under your registered name. If not, you can post as a guest or register.

* Please note that 411 moderates all comments. Your comment will show up on the site after it has been approved by an editor.
 
Name : 
Comment : 
Remaining Characters : 
2800
 

Comments (193)

 
Gaaaaaaaaay.

Screw Cena.


Posted By: EPIC CAT (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 10:59 PM

 
 
Vintage Liontamer!

Posted By: Guest#4753 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 10:59 PM

 
 
Hes gonna drop the world heavywt title on raw tomoro, to the returning JOHN CENHAAS ! ! ! !

Posted By: wee sacks (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM

 
 
Edge / Hardy feud FTW!
This should be epic.

Cena still sucks.

And overall I just didn't get into this PPV.


Posted By: THE Peter (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM

 
 
that wwe title "match" was ok but the ending was even better,and cena new champ.........YAWN....

Posted By: OOOOre (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:02 PM

 
 
Regal squashed, Jericho no longer champ, Cena new champ, Koslov/HHH snoozefest = EPIC CRAP!

Posted By: bob (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:02 PM

 
 
Cena is champ again how surprising....

Posted By: mr clutch (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:02 PM

 
 
THE REAL CHAMP IS BACK

Posted By: reagan (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:02 PM

 
 
WHOOO! Cena for the mother lovin win! The guy is just plain awesome.

Posted By: Ronald Reagan (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:03 PM

 
 
Cena champion = Epic Failure
Edge Champion = Epic success


Posted By: Wally (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:04 PM

 
 
don't know if i'm being too rough but it just wasn't a good ppv for me. I'm also sad to see that jericho was nothing more than a transitional champion for his 2nd. reign

Posted By: cj (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:04 PM

 
 
Edge looks like Tom Petty or Zakk Wylde, not Mike Knox.

Posted By: REM (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:04 PM

 
 
what an OUTSTANDING show!

Posted By: hobo_bebop (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:04 PM

 
 
don't know if i'm being too rough but it just wasn't a good ppv for me. I'm also sad to see that jericho was nothing more than a transitional champion for his 2nd. reign

Posted By: cj (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM

 
 
I'm back, bitches!

Posted By: Edge's Beard (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM

 
 
stoked cena is back and champ! batista vs cena 2.

Posted By: jords (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM

 
 
This was a very disappointing Survivor Series! The best matches of the night were the traditional Survivor matches, with the exception of the Divas match.

I don't understand why everyone thinks John Cena is so great! Chris Jericho should have held on to the title tonight. Unless, E is planning a Cena-Batista Part 2 for the title at Wrestlemania, I really don't see the angle of Cena winning here.

I wonder if the crowd yelling BORING during the HHH-Koslov match caused folks in the back to scramble for an exciting finish. I predict an awesome Main Event at WM 25 - Edge vs Jeff Hardy.


Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM

 
 
Not another Cena reign.

Posted By: QwaarJet (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM

 
 
Edge and Hardy saved that match.

Posted By: Jamal (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM

 
 
LET THE CENA AND WWE BASHING BEGINS !!!!!

Survivor Series 2008

SUPER MASSIVE EPIC WIN FOR THE WWE and EPIC OWNAGE of THE WHOLE IWC


Posted By: Rick Dangerous (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM

 
 
Tomorrow night, the WHC will spin.

Posted By: Guest#8916 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM

 
 
Love that Edge is back!

Posted By: G (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM

 
 
Did anyone notice that out of the 4 women on the Raw team who got eliminated, Maryse eliminated 3 of them, including the most popular woman in WWE, Mickie James? Plus, Maryse even made to the end of the match when Michelle McCool didn't.

There were reports of her getting de-pushed due to McCool. I thought they were BS and given the way the match went, they were.


Posted By: Guest#2948 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:07 PM

 
 
Noooooooooooo!

Poor Jericho, losing twice in the same month. What a waste of an incredible champion, instead we get the Cena Show again.

Glad to see Edge back


Posted By: Blake (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:07 PM

 
 
Um... yeah

I got nothing


Posted By: Q (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM

 
 
Thank God Edge is back.Unify the titles already and end this Fag Extension.

Cena vs Batista and Edge vs HHH for WM..WHOOP WHOOP..


Posted By: MacDollarz. (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM

 
 
I am so glad to see that the title is not on the owners son-in-law. When will he leave? The game no longer has game.

Posted By: BA (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM

 
 
Damn. I wish Cena hadn't won, but... fuck. I hope this means Hardy wins the rumble and faces Edge at WM 25 which would be great, 7 years after their legendary TLC match at X-Seven.

Posted By: Uh...me (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM

 
 
I'm so sick of Cena, but it's a personal preference thing and I won't waste a lot of space on it here. I'll just point out that he sells the Walls of Jericho like he's trying to poop (or maybe trying not to poop) which is pretty ridiculous for a guy coming off a neck injury.

Thanks for a great run Jericho.

Is Striker the first guy to make a "high" joke about Kofi so far? It's the first one I've heard.

Was it really necessary to pin Regal in 10 seconds? Bullshit.

I didn't like that noone really ran in to break up any of the pins during the elimination matches. There are 4 of you on the ring apron and one of you can't run in to break up the pin?

Overall, I enjoyed the show but a lot of little things irked me.


Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:10 PM

 
 
it was funny when edge won the wwe title,justin roberts said "and the newwww world heavyweight champion,the rated R superstar...edge"

Posted By: RKO2 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:10 PM

 
 
No Ed Leslie?


Disappointing.


Posted By: Little Barber (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:11 PM

 
 
FUCK CENA!!!!!!!!

Posted By: Guest#4614 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:11 PM

 
 
Rated RKO Night Baby..........

Posted By: LocoMan (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:11 PM

 
 
let the bitching begin

Posted By: Michael Cole (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
Don't apologize for the lack of live coverage...it wouldnt be a PPV without 411 crashing.

Posted By: Just like always (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
Cool to see Cena win in hometown (especially being a Boston boy myself)... now if we can get a HEEL TURN!!

The Edge/WWE Title booking is intresting.. i will wait til SD to really coment since i didnt see the show.


Posted By: Chad (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
Hopefully Jeff Hardy will win the Royal Rumbel and become the Champion at WrestleMaina 25.

Posted By: what (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
Edge owns us ALL.

=]


Posted By: dt_5150 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
Holy Crap

Posted By: Freeman (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM

 
 
NO Star ratings or opinion of the matches makes this review an EPIC FAIL~!!

Posted By: DP (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM

 
 
its nice how cena and edge get to come back and jump right back into their belts...

Posted By: Polish Post (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:14 PM

 
 
So now you don't even have to be part of the match to win the title? Whatever.

Posted By: Ted (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:14 PM

 
 
FUCK WWE. ONCE AGAIN THEY FUCK JERICHO OUT OF A LONG TITLE RUN JUST TO GIVE CENA ANOTHER RUN WITH THE TITLE. JERICHO WAS THE FUCKING MAN FOR THE LAST 6 MONTHS AND THEY JOB HIM TO BATISTA & CENA IN 4 WEEKS, MAKING HIS RUN WITH THE TITLE WORTHLESS. FUCK WWE AND THEIR BULLSHIT HARD-ON FOR A CENA-BATISTA WRESTLEMANIA MATCH.

Posted By: psjmitch (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:27 PM

 
 
HBK, Khali, and Rey survived in the first match. Just a small error I noticed in your report.

Posted By: Dave M (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:28 PM

 
 
yay that edge is the new wwe champion but damm it cena won again o well at leace its not batista lol

Posted By: jeff (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:28 PM

 
 
So two guys return to capture World Titles. That means either of these guys should be Wrestler of the Week, full stop.

Posted By: K-Money (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:29 PM

 
 
I called the Edge screwjob. Hardy vs. Edge at Wrestlemania. Book it.

Cena winning was the wrong decision. I think he's gonna get all kinds of heat for this. Not cool.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM

 
 
Ugh.

I expected one guy who has been off television to come back tonight and be fed a title. Not two.

Oh, and Candice, if you get hurt just by stepping into a ring, it might be time to consider another line of work.


Posted By: The Grundle (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM

 
 
So it was a bait & switch, then. I call bullshit.

Posted By: Melissa Goes Barefoot in tennis Shoes (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:31 PM

 
 
Well, the WWE Title match was total awesomeness on 4 accounts.

#1 - Edge is back.

#2 - Edge wins.

#3 - The whole "Jeff in the hospital" bit looks to be a story and he didn't have a relapse. PHEW!!!

#4 - Wrestlemania 25: I'm calling it right now for the WWE Championship.

EDGE VS JEFF HARDY!!!


Posted By: Kristian (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:31 PM

 
 
I'll be honest I didn't order the show had to work, but I marked the fuck out when I read that EDGE is the new champion. I want to see it.

Posted By: Colin (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:31 PM

 
 
get ready for a World Heavyweight Title Spinner belt... :( FUCK JOHN CENA.

or Idk,
maybe they kno they made a mistake,
and they'll have him lose the title back to Y2J on raw or the next ppv.


Posted By: Chris Duran (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM

 
 
BTW, Jericho carried like 90% of the match,
cena was sooooooo limited here.
Un-acceptable WWE, for them to give him the title on his 1st night back, and the same goes for Edge as well.


Posted By: Chris Duran (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:33 PM

 
 
Where is all the bitching about the ppv being an "EPIC FAIL" ?

HA HA HA

PWNED THE IWC !


Posted By: Rick Dangerous (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:33 PM

 
 
So Edge can win the belt even though he is not in the match? Bad enough he needed to be "the ultimate opportunist" to win again. Great way to make him look like a weak champ again.
Cena winning the belt on his first appearance back ranks right up their with Hogan at WMIX. All that was missing was Mr Fuji. Pure Balls!


Posted By: Tom (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:34 PM

 
 
IT'S EDGE! BOSTON HAS GONE NUTS! BEARDED EDGE IS HERE! MIKE KNOX'S BABY BROTHER best commmet ever !!!!

Posted By: JEFF (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 
 
I guess Jeff Hardy fucked up again somewhere along the line. That guy just can't stop shooting himself in the foot.

Posted By: oh well (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 
 
Edge is champ and all is right with the world,

Posted By: scott (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 
 
I actually was really digging the WWE Title match up to Edge's run in. My hopes for Trip-Kozlov weren't high, but they were working a pretty decent match. It was pretty different from what WWE usually puts on--lots of mat wrestling. Though it didn't sound like the live crowd appreciated it very much.

The rest of the show was decent. Cena-Jericho was awesome, as expected.


Posted By: Homie (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:36 PM

 
 
Orton and Rhodes surviving= Epic Win

Regal looks like a bitch= Burial

Jermaine Dupri....errr....R-Truth continuing to be Shelton's PPV whipping child= LAWL Rofl skates

Edge's beard winning the WWE title= Holy obvious

Cena and Jericho's great match= Epic happiness

Khali surviving= Best....thing....ever.

Great PPV....best one I ever bought.


Posted By: Phil (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM

 
 
WOW, Cena is champion on his first match back from injury. If they make that Heavyweight Title spin, I'm going to be pissed.

Posted By: Guest#3510 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:38 PM

 
 
I actually watched this piece of crap PPV.

I would give it 3 out of 10.

WORST PPV OF THE YEAR.

and once again, FUCK JOHN CENA!!!!


Posted By: Zack D. (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:38 PM

 
 
I didn't see the show but it sounds like Jericho/Cena stole the show

Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:40 PM

 
 
So Edge screws another Hardy yet again. Isn't it funny how Jeff got wins over both Triple H and The Undertaker yet Edge on his first night back strolls down to the ring and instantly he's champion? I'll say it here before anyone else does.

EPIC SWERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: King Of Kings (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM

 
 
Epic Fail!!! I was one of the Druids. I resigned I'll be on raw tomorrow night!

Posted By: RVD (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM

 
 
Oh I'm so shocked Cena won go agead wwe marks you're a parody of yourself anyways. MMA fans are right this stuff is way too predictable and go ahead and try to claim UT and Cena weren't going to win and you're too stupid if you did you're not whats right about this business you're whats too pathetic. Write me and do one of Dennett316s embarassing WM rants no one cares you're whats left of what once was a wrestling dynasty and you deserve the embarassment of the ratings tell me Cena is on Rock or Austins level you're just looking like fools no one takes you seriously except your fellow marks. Screw off!!!

Posted By: Guest#9393 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM

 
 
I like Edge's Bruiser Brody look. Highlight of the night was Layla throwing her shoe at Punk.

Posted By: kid (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM

 
 
At least Edge came back, but am I the only one tired of John fucking Cena? So wish they would turn him heel and fast. Enough of the force fed WWE marketing machine pushing all this stuff for kids. Isn't Rey Mysterio enough? Cena has sucked since he abandoned his edgy rap persona for his current pseudo Hogan gimmick.

Posted By: Joe (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:44 PM

 
 
As a long time fan I almost bought the show to see the long-awaited Hardy win... and now I'm extremly happy that the "Universe" of "Entertainers" didnt get my money... Now Edge will drop the title eventually to Hardy when HHH should have been the one to put him over...

Posted By: Eric (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:47 PM

 
 
I don't buy the ppv and i still feel like i wasted my money! How the hell does edge win the title that he wasn't even in the match to begin with? FU WWE and Freddie Price jr!

Posted By: Guest#8709 (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM

 
 
Bullshit! Fuck Cena! Jericho, this is your reward for the best interviews on Raw in years and the best feud for the year. You job to this talentless golden boy. Fuck Vince McMahon, Fuck WWE, fuck anyone who pays money to see this travesty.

Posted By: kawaiigirls (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM

 
 
Yay to Edge as champ!

Boo to the apparent return of the vicki/Edge angle.

Yay to Morrison imitating HBK!

Boo to Morrison being pinned by HBK.

Yay to Taker getting a win in his Show feud!

Boo to me losing money by betting against Taker in the match.


Posted By: Weston Smith (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM

 
 
inb4cenahaters

Posted By: juantonzoup (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:55 PM

 
 
Doesn't all the PPVs end a little early, slight Wrestlemania?

Posted By: Josh (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:56 PM

 
 
So Cena is champ which was predictable in Boston for his big comeback and Edge as the New Champ was a shock. Thumbs up to creative to makes things interesting and fresh with Edge. I guess that means a fatal four way for the title at the next PPV but not balanced as Edge, Kozlov, and Hardy look to be the heels and HHH as the only face....Or I think the who-done-it to Jeff Hardy is Christian which is a great way to bring him back in and he and Jeff have a program together and maybe Jeff stays face. Edge vs HHH at the next PPV since I don't think it can be another triple threat match back to back PPV's. Kozlov might just interfere. He's just too boring for me to watch.

Posted By: Joe A What's goin'oooon! (Guest)  on November 23, 2008 at 11:57 PM

 
 
My Mania predictions...

Edge v. Hardy TLC match
Batista/Orton/Punk v. John Cena Iroman match


Posted By: Yoda (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM

 
 
WWE PPVs = EPIC FAIL

I feel bad for anyone who spent money on this load of crap. Cena sucks, hopefully Jericho gets that title back quickly.


Posted By: Guest#6802 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:03 AM

 
 
Tomorrow night, the WHC will spin.

Posted By: Guest#5952 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:04 AM

 
 
Quote unquote

"Kofi Sucks".


Posted By: chikaraking (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:06 AM

 
 
Edge is the new WWE Champion=Awesome+ Jeff Hardy vs Edge better
John Cena= new champion not good at all Jericho shoulda retained!!!!!!!


Posted By: Whogivesa... (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:11 AM

 
 
Thank God i decided to watch my
Iron Sheik shoot interview instead of this crap. HAAAACK PHHEEEW!


Posted By: Josh (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:14 AM

 
 
Fuck Edge. Fuck John Cena. Fuck the WWE.

Posted By: Tugman (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:23 AM

 
 
I wanna say that I'm suprised that Cena won, but I can't say that I am.

**Sigh**

I mean does Superman ever get destroyed? Does James Bond ever get killed by the bad guys? Does Jack Bauer get snuffed out by the terrorists? (BTW, 24:Redemption was AWESOME tonight.) JACK IS BACK! Anyway......

To me that is what Cena has become in WWE. The WWE's action/super-hero that while he may get outsmarted and even lose at times along the way he will always ultimately win in the end. Some will love it and some will hate it.

All I will say about it is...........


EPIC............






Here it comes.....




Get Ready..........









EDGE!


How AWESOME was that tonight? Edge has perfected the cheap heel douchbaggery that it takes to be a great heel. And say what you will about the way it was booked(along with his other sneak attack title wins with his two MITB cash-ins) But...Did you hear that pop? I know Edge is a heel and I'm sure he would've rather been booed out of the building, but the crowd has grown to respect Edge for his great performance as a heel and I think it showed tonight. (Not to mention that he got the pin on Triple H which may have helped juuuuuuuust a little. HA)

EDGE WINS! EDGE WINS! EDGE WINS!

Now all we need is for him to "take out" Vickie in revenge for putting him into the HITC with Taker and his return will be complete.


Posted By: Brian (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:23 AM

 
 
Ok, I get it guys, you all love Edge. He's a great personality and can work a match well. BUT, so can Cena, I really just don't understand everyone's hatred for Cena. Could someone please explain this to me??? (Without just saying, "he sucks" or something like that. A legit reason.

Posted By: Cena is Champ (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:26 AM

 
 
LONG LIVE THE CENA!!! Yay for Boston not booing him and another yay for not crapping all over Khali! Finally, Edge fears Hardy!

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:26 AM

 
 
Edge returned last year at Survivor Series to wreck the main event also. Ho hum

Posted By: Chris (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:32 AM

 
 
This payperview was horrible on so many levels and im not talking about match performances either, im talking about principalitiy now....i dont wanna sound gay or anything like that, but ive been an avid wrestling fan for some time now. they showed the 800th showing of Raw not to long ago and ive probably seen atleast about 750 of them..let me start. first they bullshit Jeff Hardy AGAIN on a payperview. i know they wanna give him the belt at the perfect timing but SERIOUSLY?!?!? Dude has been on a humongous tear and even pinned the UNDERTAKER. THE FUCKING UNDERTAKER!!! and they give the belt to fucking an overweight hairy Edge?!?!?! are you fucking serious?? dude hasnt been on TV in fucking months and yet he gets the belt......in comes John fag-ass Cena...another fucking panzee that hasnt been on TV in months. dude comes back to the whole im hood rapping marine thuganomics soldier bullshit he always does. and yet he wins the fucking belt too. granted he's in his home town, but seriously??? he's in his hometown and yet you can STILL hear the fucking boo's. if they wouldve changed his gimmick i wouldnt have been as mad, but the same old fucking bullshit??!?!? seriously vince this is the fucking best you got? then you wonder why your fucking stocks are down the drain?? give the fans what they fucking want already, put the belt on jeff hardy, change john cenas played out gimmick already, and give some young talent some time. let me go back a couple of months ago ala CM Punk, dude couldve been fucking huge now look at him, hes caught up in the fucking wash. Im taking it upon myself to hit vince where it fucking hurts, right in the fucking wallet as little as it may be. Im gonna stop watching wrestling(atleast WWE) until the show start becoming worth watching, costing him ratings, atleast on a small level(gotta start somewhere). I will keep up with the matches by reading the results here and keep myself up to date. but until shit changes and becomes worth my time im gonna stop watching. having hardy job out the last what FIVE ppv's is bullshit, and to think i actually paid to watch S.S. Im done, performance wise this couldve been the greatest PPV ever, but as far as the story line goes, talent development, and actually giving the fans what they want, this PPV sucked giant donkey dick. you want your company to start doing better vince? you wanna see some dough roll your way, give hardy the belt, let the young talent run the show for a little, and see your stock go back up to 25 bucks from the measly(?)

Posted By: Jsavage (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:34 AM

 
 
EPIC OK? Though Edge just made that match fill with awesome.

Posted By: Guest#6369 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:41 AM

 
 
People are so predictable. Why does everyone think they're cool if they buck the trend or make predictions?

There are two things I keep seeing in this thread.

1) Since the IWC hates Cena people want to run in and make fun of the IWC because Cena won when in reality they probably aren't too fond of the title win themselves. "The IWC hates Cena? Well then I better laugh at them! That means I can stand on my holier than thou pedestal!"

2) We get it. EVERYONE is predicting Edge vs. Jeffikins for 'Mania. So stop trying to be elite by "calling it." It's not impressive when everyone says it. Call a different, less predictable match. If THAT match happens then you can brag.

My God. Does anyone here ever get off of their high horse?


Posted By: Guest#7002 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:41 AM

 
 
I'm honestly curious - are the bigwigs trying to stoke the IWC fires? They give an injured Cena an unearned title shot on a silver platter, they proceed to shove clip after clip of John Cena fellatio down our throats ad-freaking-nauseam, then they have him beat IWC-darling Jericho, a man whose title reign had already been damaged to due to Big Dave's wining.

I'm not trying to pile on the Cena hate, I just wonder if they are aware of how obnoxious the whole thing comes across.


Posted By: Chay (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:42 AM

 
 
I actually have to say this was a disappointing PPV outside Edge's surprise return (which now makes sense given UT and Vickie are such sworn enemies - good to see Vickie out of her 350th wheelchair stint also) and the surprisingly decent Divas elimination match outside the Candice situation. The rest was boring, slow, plodding, and the crowd SHIT all over the HHH/Kozlov match because they had the right idea of keeping the druggie out of the title picture but the WRONG execution. They should never have LET him be in the match - same shit as 1999's replacement of Austin by Big Show in.. YOU GUESSED IT - A TRIPLE THREAT FOR THE WWF TITLE. This current WWE Championship is the direct descendant of that belt, and that belt also looked ten times better.

Thumbs down.


Posted By: Black Scorpion (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:44 AM

 
 
I love John Cena, if only for the fact that he makes all you virgins cry your eyes out.

WAAAHHHHHH!!!


Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:52 AM

 
 
I HATE when they don't break up pinfalls during elimination matches. In fact, the only broken pinfall was in the divas match IIRC (I also marked out hard during that match, for some reason)..

also, no DQ in the WWE Title match? Multiple chair shots in plain view of the ref.. c'mon now


Posted By: Mastro (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:53 AM

 
 
look at the bright side... jericho can now claim to be 3 time champ with a possibility of being a 4 time champ!
shame he had to drop the program with HBK and then just job to cena... lets hope jericho doesn't burn in mid-card purgatory


Posted By: Guest#4605 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:00 AM

 
 
Cena champion = Epic Failure
Edge Champion = Epic success

Posted By: Wally (Guest) on November 23, 2008 at 11:04 PM

This is so true. Cena sucks the fun out all that is good wrestling. All the small kids under the age of 17 and all girls and gay dudes over the age of 17, was probably going nuts when Cena won.

YAAAAWWWWWN!!!! This was not the least bit surprising, plus no hardy on a PPV what a waste. The WWE championship match was a tad bit surprising. The only possible reason i think they did this is because if they had Hardy on the show, he probably would've stolen all of Cena's Hype with yet another of his great performance's. Last Cena came back they made him win the Rumble and that was a total failure. Now i can only hope that he loses the title to Orton or Jericho in record breaking time, but as we all know the WWE they prolong this title run of Cena until it is as stale as 4 month old milk. More Hardy, Less Cena and WWE will be great.


Posted By: Brandon (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:08 AM

 
 
Is there a hidden rule somewhere in WWE bylaws that states "The WWE can and will not condone the possibility of two Canadian World Champions at the same time."

Its as if they're trying to tell us something, like if this were to happen, the WWE Universe would implode.


Posted By: Mossby (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:09 AM

 
 
I didn't see the show so ummmm, how did Edge get in the title match?

As awesome as it is, how did it happen?


Posted By: Kalvin (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:16 AM

 
 
i am so glad i didn't order this shit at the fear that once again what i expected would happen. punish someone for carrying your show for months & hand the belt to someone your true fans despise. No fu to cena since he at least gives a fuck to try to work a good match unlike his predescors HHH & Hogan but a real Fuck u & die to Vince GAY Macmahon. Burn in hell fuckface along witgh your no-talent off-spring.

Posted By: mj (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:19 AM

 
 
Wow, the Divas suck really really really bad. LOLs at people saying Kelly and Candace have improved...

Posted By: Guest#6097 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:24 AM

 
 
Huh...there was a reason why I stopped watching. Thanks for giving me more of a reason.

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:33 AM

 
 
I love John Cena, if only for the fact that he makes all you virgins cry your eyes out.

WAAAHHHHHH!!!

Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:52 AM

I hate John Cena, but funny how idiots like u will receive any juices he gives u
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:46 AM

 
 
I love how bitches bitch just to bitch, no matter what happens. You all smell like rabid vaginas.

Posted By: Guest#2218 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:48 AM

 
 
Ok, I get it guys, you all love Edge. He's a great personality and can work a match well. BUT, so can Cena, I really just don't understand everyone's hatred for Cena. Could someone please explain this to me??? (Without just saying, "he sucks" or something like that. A legit reason.

Posted By: Cena is Champ (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:26 AM


Uuuuh.... no idiot. Sorry but u Cena tards r all the same "tell us y Cena sucks or he's good stop hating." Please moron y don't u idiots 4 once tell US REAL FANS y he's good then retard. As 4 Edge the best and hardworking performer 2day and has accomplished more than Super Cena ever wishes.


Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:52 AM

 
 
I made a point to mention that no one who reads 411 wrestling must ever watch wrestling..All i have read leading up to Survivor Series was Jericho will not lose to Cena in his hometown. At this point i argued that Cena is the big star on Raw and everybody else was a caretaker champion. Everyone from Batista down to C.M.Punkassbitch was only holding the belt. Chris Jericho is the new D.D.P. Only good enough to hold the belt untill the real champion gets ready to hold it. It was even argued that there was no way that the E would ever hotshot the world title that many times in a month[ for evidence of this behavior i would suggest renting Survivor series 98 and Royal Rumble 99. The W.W.E. has a history of weak assed champions [Mankind im looking at you and Rey Rey] And the real ball carriers[ Hulk Hogan, Triple H. The Rock, Steve Austin, Bob fuckin Backlund and Bruno Sammartino] The rest of them might as well be Stan Stasiack or the Iron Sheik...and that includes Jericho. Does it surprise anyone that Batista didnt win the gold belt at the scramble.. Jericho was the lottery winner plain and simple. They wanted someone who they could feed to Cena on his return show...with that being said........I TOLD YOU SO....

Posted By: old school fan (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:59 AM

 
 
*Insert Generic negative Cena comment*

IT wasn't predictable every one thought Jericho was gonna win even the 411 staff


Posted By: hound 89 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 02:02 AM

 
 
I seriously wish more people would give WWE a hint and turn the fucking channel when the lap dog Cena appears. This is disgusting. Edge winning is meh, but it give Koz time to develop and hopefully feud with HHH when Jeff comes back for revenge on Edge. Overall, I don't think I'll be tuning in to RAW for a while.

Posted By: Guest#4826 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 02:15 AM

 
 
damnit the wwe had been less gay recenty and they have to ruin it by giving cena the title why don't they just give him a 100 year title reign thats waht they want

Posted By: random (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 02:23 AM

 
 
so I guy thats been out for months gets put in a title match and wins the title if this was not the almighty wwe tyhe iwc would be shitting all over it

Posted By: random (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 02:25 AM

 
 
Am i The only one SHOCKED that Triple H got pinned

Posted By: Ramirez (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 02:50 AM

 
 
Man y can't Cena just stay injured!? Raw was so entertaining the last couple of months too, guess its time to switch over to Smackdown!

Posted By: jimmy c (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:07 AM

 
 
Man, I was really disappointed a debuting Kizarny didn't come out as the 3rd participant in the World Title match and pin HHH

Posted By: Kizarny fan (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:10 AM

 
 
Guess it's 2006 again.While I'm not mad at Edge and Cena being champs I think Y2J shouldn't have dropped it so soon and Hardy should of won in a screwy fashion.So I predict Hardy wins the rumble faces Edge at mania and finally wins.Question is who will care???

Posted By: The Gold Standard (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:15 AM

 
 
Another average show from double-double E, Edge's return was good but the show just didn't have a "Big 4" feel to it, HBK, MVP, Morisson & Rey all in the opening match was a waste of great talant, diva match was a clusterfuck, Show/Taker was SLOW, and Cena got the belt back already, so much for the money being in "the chase".

6.5/10 overall, glad I watched this at a bar instead of buying it (I usually shell out for the "Big 4", but this show had average written all over it from the start)


Posted By: Guest#9027 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:20 AM

 
 
Edge, Orton and Cena all rule, fuck everyone else.

Orton carried the ENTIRE match somehow, what a man and got a FACE pop after he beat Batista, FUCK YOU Batista.


Posted By: Rated RK-FU (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:24 AM

 
 
To all you idiots who posted screw Cena well i got one thing to say to you screw the overratted wrestler ever on sd that bastard edge!

Posted By: steven1977 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:32 AM

 
 
THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE NIGHT WAS THE LOUD TNA CHANTS DURING THE TRIPLE H AND KOZLOV MATCH , AND THE BOORING CHANTS. GETTING BOOED OUT OF THE ARENA, THIS STUFF DIDNT EVEN HAPPEN TO WARRIOR HOGAN HALLOWEEN HAVOC 1998

Posted By: WARRIOR (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 04:00 AM

 
 
Please don't let Cena bling up the oldest active belt in Professional Wrestling, and bring on Edge the tweener now please, let hims spear the fuck out of Show, Vickie and all the Familia on the next SD, right before competing in the Main Event,FOR THE WWE TITLE, A CROSS-BRAND, WINNER SHAVES YOUR MOTHERFUCKIN BEARD MATCH vs MIKE KNOX!!

BOOK IT BOOK IT BOOK IT!!!!


Posted By: Jay (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 04:53 AM

 
 
I marked twice during this show.

For Edge obv
And for the Liontamer


Posted By: Kev (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 04:57 AM

 
 
Im not a Cena hating at all, but the fact he walked in & won the title after Jericho has been the best performer in the company in the last 6 months is a joke.

Im so glad i didnt pay for this ppv, i would of been furious.


Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:09 AM

 
 
This PPV was like a MORTIS comment. It sucked!

Posted By: US (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:22 AM

 
 
once again vince's boy, edge is giving another title run, i mean he only jsut returned and didnt deserve the title one bit it's pathetic, plus sad ol' vince was the one who held back the almighty christian 3 yrs ago and will prob' try it again if nad hopefully when the c-meister returns, when he should (just like edge) instantly win the world title # but won't as the ever jealous triple h and vinnie-mac will hold down reso AGAIN.

Posted By: ap (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:30 AM

 
 
EDGE WINS! EDGE WINS!! EDGE WINS!!!

his beard totally reek of awesomeness


Posted By: CJ (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:42 AM

 
 
Royal Rumble spoiler - Jeff Hardy wins the Rumble.

Posted By: Mikey (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:48 AM

 
 
All the whiny little fucking crybabys are out in full force.

WAH WAH Cena wins WAH WAH Please TNA put WWE out of business fast WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

And to all of those who whine and cry about Cena getting the title shot and title his first match back, remember one thing: Sting didn't do jack shit to earn a TNA title shot or the title at Bound for Glory either but yet some defend that.

And all of this "WWE marks are this" or "WWE marks are that", get off of your high horses because TNA marks are just as bad if not worse than the WWE marks.


Posted By: Rob Z (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:53 AM

 
 
I love how the WWE usually gets flak for jobbing or humiliating people in their hometowns and now when someone does get a win in their hometown, it's a bad move. Mind you they could've put the belt on Cena at anytime in the summer and that they could've easily let Batista take it in the Championship Scramble.

Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:55 AM

 
 
I wouldn't be surprised if jericho wins it back on Raw. I think this was more of a way of thanking Cena for everything so far, giving the home fans something to cheer about, and giving the event a big finish. I also think it was a way of saying sorry for cocking about with him during his last return.

We shall see, but for now it's just good to see him in good health again.


Posted By: T.G. Corke (Registered)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:29 AM

 
 
Rick Dangerous's life = EPIC FAIL

Posted By: lolwhataloser (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:38 AM

 
 
Chris Jericho - the heel champion version of CM Punk.

Posted By: JAK (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:56 AM

 
 
"Victoria tags herself in, huracanrana by Kelly for 3 and Victoria is gone!"

????????????????????????????????????????

Am I the only one who thinks is the most stupidest, the most inexplicable, and the most bizarre decision on the whole show?

I mean, HHH getting pinned does not even count. Obviously they were going to protect Vladimir Kozlov's UNDEFEATED streak, that is one of the reasons for the three way after all.

Anyway, any idea why they are not using one of their most gifted and athletic diva?


Posted By: who cares (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 07:19 AM

 
 
another step in the direction of WCW i see WWE are taking.

Sounds like the getting desperate, one thing i remember reading about WCW's demise was that when it started getting desperate they had title changes a plenty and it's happening now and as what happened with WCw is happening here titles are becomming worthless because people holding them are not earning these titles.

did edge or Cena earn the right for them wins........no.


Posted By: BigdaveJ (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 07:30 AM

 
 
I could not believe Edge came back after that HiaC match with Undertaker at summerslam

Posted By: Undertakerfan123 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 07:36 AM

 
 
lets just hope they dont put a spinner on Big Gold

Posted By: Litas Biggest Fan (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 07:52 AM

 
 
Morrison = highlight of the night!
As if no one saw it coming.

Obviously the E looked at the downwards spiral of the ratings, snapped their fingers and shouted "we need another 2-year Cena title reign of horror!". Horray!


Posted By: Gaaa (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:00 AM

 
 
Yuck, I'm so sick of Cena already and he's even worse than he was before, why the fuck can't he just do a Candice and twist his ankle or something and GET THE FUCK OFF THE TITLE SPOT where he doesn't belong.

Vomits.


Posted By: Guest#7169 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:12 AM

 
 
I love John Cena, if only for the fact that he makes all you virgins cry your eyes out.

WAAAHHHHHH!!!

Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:52 AM

I hate John Cena, but funny how idiots like u will receive any juices he gives u
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 01:46 AM

...I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, since English is clearly difficult for you, but I think you've just proven my point. Thank you.


Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:15 AM

 
 
Cena champion = Epic Failure
Edge Champion = Epic success

Posted By: Wally (Guest) on November 23, 2008 at 11:04 PM

This is so true. Cena sucks the fun out all that is good wrestling. All the small kids under the age of 17 and all girls and gay dudes over the age of 17, was probably going nuts when Cena won.

YAAAAWWWWWN!!!! This was not the least bit surprising, plus no hardy on a PPV what a waste. The WWE championship match was a tad bit surprising. The only possible reason i think they did this is because if they had Hardy on the show, he probably would've stolen all of Cena's Hype with yet another of his great performance's. Last Cena came back they made him win the Rumble and that was a total failure. Now i can only hope that he loses the title to Orton or Jericho in record breaking time, but as we all know the WWE they prolong this title run of Cena until it is as stale as 4 month old milk. More Hardy, Less Cena and WWE will be great.

Posted By: Brandon (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 01:08 AM

Seriously, check out this comment. He questions the sexuality of Cena fans, and goes on to rave about Jeff Hardy. You can't make this stuff up, these people actually exist!!


Posted By: ahahaha (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:17 AM

 
 
Fuck Cena for coming back and performing in a 30+ minute match to rewin the championship...

BUT HOW ABOUT THAT EDGE!!!! HE'S SO AWESOME FOR RETURNING AND WINNING THE WWE GOLD AGAIN AFTER TWO MINUTES!!!!! I'M SUCH AN AWESOME SMARK!


Posted By: Give me a FUCKING break. (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:17 AM

 
 
Kudos to Maryse, Orton, Shelton Benjamin, and Edge for standing out on this show.

Posted By: Bryce (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:32 AM

 
 
Cool, but why waste Edge's return when they could've done that on next months PPV or the Rumble. Plus it's nearly the same crap as when Jericho won his first reign a few months ago. Punk taken out, Adamle puts Y2J in and he wins. Now Hardy gets taken out and Vickie puts Edge in to win. come on, space this stuff out already. Plus they were already going to blow the roof of the arena for Cena, so again why was the Edge return heat when they're already getting their money's worth.

Posted By: Byzdalmyt (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:33 AM

 
 
This PPV proves clearly how JOHN "THE MARINE" CENA would do great in an MMA fight, better prolly than Brock Lesnar, cos CENA is not only FREAKISHLY super STRONG, he is also SO TOUGH and can take anything!!!! And, screw you, haterz!!

Posted By: Guest#5821 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:35 AM

 
 
Michelle sucks. She is just using the Undertaker to get what she wants. they need to take the belt off of her.

Posted By: guest (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:41 AM

 
 
"Fuck Cena for coming back and performing in a 30+ minute match to rewin the championship..."

U R so right, FUCK Cena for just lying on his back and making silly faces for 30+ minutes and then no-selling and jobbing out one of the most deserving champions in the WWE in 3 lame moves.


Posted By: Give me a BLOWJOB (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:43 AM

 
 
"U R so right, FUCK Cena for just lying on his back and making silly faces for 30+ minutes and then no-selling and jobbing out one of the most deserving champions in the WWE in 3 lame moves.

Posted By: Give me a BLOWJOB (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:43 AM"


There we go. Another closeted homosexual who takes his frustrated, confused attraction towards John Cena and turns it into manufactured hate towards him...


Posted By: Jamal (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:52 AM

 
 
Yes Cena won, haha. I'm glad he won because I feel that majority of the Cena hate is unjustified. Who actually thought that a Kozlov-HHH match wouldn't have been boring? Imo Kozlov sucks and you "smarks" are just trying to get behind him so that if he becomes a star, you can say that you were down with him from the beginning.
I'm glad Edge is back and the WWE Title situation should be very entertaining on SmackDown in the upcoming weeks. Plus I don't think Cena-Jericho is finished yet, so cool down with the Cena hate.


Posted By: Mr. Jack Napier (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:53 AM

 
 
Tna tna tna tna tna tna tna fuuuuuuuuuckin much better than this crap

Posted By: ahm (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:02 AM

 
 
"Morrison's super kick"...

IT'S CALLED THE NITRO BLAST, PAGAN!!


Posted By: Egads (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:05 AM

 
 
ppv sucked enough said

Posted By: random (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:32 AM

 
 
How dare Vince put the title on someone who isnt the king of the Internet wrestling community. FACE FACTS NET NERDS...CENA IS A BIGGER STAR THAN Y2GAY AND C.M. PUNKASSBITCH. That being said please dry your eyes and dust the sand out of your vaginas, There is always T.N.A. or that R.O.H. crapfest. Maybe Jericho can go on the dirtmall circuit and win The N.W.A. West Georgia/East Alabama undisputed World title. Its defended every week at the Fairgrounds and on saturdays at billy Bobs chicken and ribs, its not pay per view....its pay to leave.

Posted By: old school fan (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:42 AM

 
 
I stopped watching wrestling steadily around 2003...and this is exactly why. I loved it back in the day...but a lot of people are right. Belts don't mean shit anymore besides WWE/World Championship. I get the idea with the Brand extensions...but I still think it sucks. Remember the days of everyone running around on every show? Triple H finally loses...but it goes to Edge. I was actually pretty excited about Jeff Hardy...Cena for the umpteenth time...But then again I'm a huge Jericholic...and I'm not Vince McMahon...Wrestling has just become stale. I try to watch every once in a while and just can't get into it anymore. Sigh

Posted By: Just Rantin (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM

 
 
This PPV proves clearly how JOHN "THE MARINE" CENA would do great in an MMA fight, better prolly than Brock Lesnar, cos CENA is not only FREAKISHLY super STRONG, he is also SO TOUGH and can take anything!!!! And, screw you, haterz!!

Posted By: Guest#5821 (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:35 AM


This is a pretty great post too.


Posted By: ahahaha (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:11 AM

 
 
Thank god I didn't waste 3 hours of my life on that crap.

Posted By: BBD (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:11 AM

 
 
Okay, i'll be the first to admit that I have not read everything about this ppv, but if jeff was supposed to be too hurt to compete or something, why then was he able to come down and attack hhh and koslov. Was he limping or visibly affected, or did he sprint down like nothing was wrong with him. If he was good enough to run down and attack them, why wasn't he good enough to compete in the match??? somebody help me out with the facts here.

Posted By: Brady (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:24 AM

 
 
the camp is in the house

Posted By: cena420 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:24 AM

 
 
Epic Fail!!! I was one of the Druids. I resigned I'll be on raw tomorrow night!

Posted By: RVD (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:25 AM

 
 
"How dare Vince put the title on someone who isnt the king of the Internet wrestling community. FACE FACTS NET NERDS...CENA IS A BIGGER STAR THAN Y2GAY AND C.M. PUNKASSBITCH. That being said please dry your eyes and dust the sand out of your vaginas, There is always T.N.A. or that R.O.H. crapfest. Maybe Jericho can go on the dirtmall circuit and win The N.W.A. West Georgia/East Alabama undisputed World title. Its defended every week at the Fairgrounds and on saturdays at billy Bobs chicken and ribs, its not pay per view....its pay to leave."


Ok, I think why so many people are mad, and have been for so long is pretty justified. Maybe they just can't verbalize it correctly. #1) Belts mean absolutely nothing anymore. There is no "chase". I remember the 90's very vividly. Intercontinental and European belts were used as stepping blocks to push new stars. Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Jericho, Shawn Michaels even Triple H all started with a chase for lower gold to get built up. The way they disgrace the intercontinental belt is rediculous. Don't know much bout US Title since I don't watch much anymore, but it seems like these titles no longer have the prestige anymore. I remember Shawn Michaels winning the European championship just to be the first ever Grandslam Champion.

#2) They are completely burrying new stars under old ones. I have all the respect in the world for Trips...but Ric Flair was umpteenth time champion after he has spent how long in the business? Trips, barring any more serious injuries, probably still has a long career ahead of him. Does he really need to be 25 time champion in 10 years? Also, people who are already Megastars like HHH and Cena at this point DON'T need to hold a title to be relevant. Fans are going to cheer them, buy their merchandise regardless. Hardy might be a bad example because he is already REALLY OVER, but come on. I haven't watched wrestling continually in over 5 years and at any given moment I can turn on the TV and predict CENA or Triple H holding the belt. There is LOTS of talent in that locker room, and a lot of young guys who want to learn and break out. WWE is becoming what WCW once was, and if they are not careful they will suffer same fate. Lots of talent jump ship from being held back. Austin, Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit, Rey...All ended up becoming big stars after jumping ship. The show has become stale plain and simple. Predictable matches/outcomes/champions, etc. u name it. Sometimes it's not bad just to spice things up a bit. What do they have to lose? Ratings for wrestling, WWE in particular have been steadily declining for YEARS and losing money...so obviously the same ol same ol isn't working and people aren't happy with the product.


Posted By: lol... (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:42 AM

 
 
This PPV proves clearly how JOHN "THE MARINE" CENA would do great in an MMA fight, better prolly than Brock Lesnar, cos CENA is not only FREAKISHLY super STRONG, he is also SO TOUGH and can take anything!!!! And, screw you, haterz!!

Posted By: Guest#5821 (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:35 AM

Ok one... No. Epic Fail on your behalf Cena would get his ass kicked by Lesnar in a real fight. Anyway, No there is a difference on another note. People who compare what edge did and what Cena did. Well its all simple. Edge is a heal so he is expected to do something like that. But since Cena is a face That kinda thing doesn't fly. Face's need to earn their shots.

Just like when C.M Punk cashed in his money in the bank on an injured Edge. Everyone was like. " WOW! C.M Punk YOU IZ SO SMRT " Yet when someone like edge did it. " Oh Edge is such a cheater. The ultimate oppurtunist. It just gets so obnoxious that people are so one sided with stuff like this. Just a generalization but Cena fans apparently can't recognize any other talent except their favorite Wrestler. I will admit Cena is alright. But Edge has earned his damn time being in the company For somewhere around a Decade. He earns his shots and is actually the best heal in all of the WWE. It makes sense for him to do what he did and if anyone disagrees I will be glad to discuss your view points against my own.


Posted By: EdgeHead (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 10:43 AM

 
 
enough with the bitching already.... i'm not fond of cena either but he's all the wwe has right now... if mcmahon wasn't such a dick to people like THE ROCK, HULK, AND HIS OTHER WRESTLERS THEN MAYBE HIS RATINGS WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF.

Posted By: nikki (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM

 
 
It was really a toss up with between me and Edge, I really thought that I was going to be the one to go out a get the title, and I had some people backing me as well, but Vince felt like he needed to save me for later....

Posted By: GILLBERG (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM

 
 
Uuuuh.... no idiot. Sorry but u Cena tards r all the same "tell us y Cena sucks or he's good stop hating." Please moron y don't u idiots 4 once tell US REAL FANS y he's good then retard. As 4 Edge the best and hardworking performer 2day and has accomplished more than Super Cena ever wishes.

Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 01:52 AM

And you still didn't answer the fuckin' question. I'm not a "CENA tard" as you put it, but a friend of mine gave a pretty good damn point the other day. We were watching ONS 06 where the ECW fans chanted "You can't wrestle"..... and he said "These lames are funny. They chant 'You can't wrestle' to Cena and turn around the blow the roof off the place for Sandman and Tommy Dreamer."

Thats a tremendous point. Cena was at his most popular during his "thug" gimmick, but he was a WORSE WRESTLER then. When ONE group of fans started chanting "You can't wrestle", you bitches jumped on the bandwagon and then TURN AROUND and cheer others "who can't wrestle" because you're programmed to.

Edge is the man....he is.....but lets be real...Cena has had CARRIED matches out of the Khali, Umaga and Batista on PPV headliners, so how does HE suck? Hell... you're the same idiots who still pop for SCSA even though he was given a MONSTER push with LESS mic skills than Cena and his act was STALE 3 years before he retired, but you are TRAINED to cheer for him.

You fuckin' robots are comical.... get a mind of your own, bitches....


Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM

 
 
I am sooooo glad im not going to raw tonight now, cause the 1st fucking thing i will hear (from the raw taping) is the champ is here

im not saying i hate cena
i just hate him as champion

and welcome back edge. i marked HARD!!!!!!


Posted By: Baxter (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 11:47 AM

 
 
Just like when C.M Punk cashed in his money in the bank on an injured Edge. Everyone was like. " WOW! C.M Punk YOU IZ SO SMRT " Yet when someone like edge did it. " Oh Edge is such a cheater. The ultimate oppurtunist. It just gets so obnoxious that people are so one sided with stuff like this. Just a generalization but Cena fans apparently can't recognize any other talent except their favorite Wrestler. I will admit Cena is alright. But Edge has earned his damn time being in the company For somewhere around a Decade. He earns his shots and is actually the best heal in all of the WWE. It makes sense for him to do what he did and if anyone disagrees I will be glad to discuss your view points against my own.

Posted By: EdgeHead (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Do you actually that Edge heel talent wise is BETTER than Jericho and/or MVP or that he is WRITTEN to be a better heel than Jericho or MVP? There is a difference. I added MVP for a reason... just wanna get your opinion....


Posted By: Industry (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM

 
 
was it just me..or did edge look like a hillbilly on drugs?..but yea im not the biggest cena fan..but i have to admit..the past couple years all of the dedication and strenght he has shown...he has my respect..i think he deserved that win last night in boston...he worked hard for it and earned it..cena vs. orton is next i bet

Posted By: Ryan J. (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:07 PM

 
 
To hell with Cena! Jericho is the man!

Posted By: Adam (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM

 
 
I am so sick and tired of Cena, I hope he gets anotehr major injury and is out for good, he's turing into a Hulk Hogan and look how many people hate him now. Down with Cena, Down with Cena. BTW the whole Edge thing sucks

Posted By: Caesar (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM

 
 
Dear Whiners,

It's just wrestling. Sit back and relax and just watch the show. Be patient and let's see what happens on Raw and Smackdown before you get your panties in a bunch.

Chill.

Sincerely,

Your friend,

Chico.


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM

 
 
Ok I have to chime in here why do some of you write post like wrestling is real. its a freaking show kinda like a live movie with twist the PPV's are used as the new movie of the month to keep the fans looking forward to the next new Movie. there is so many wrestlers now that the monday and friday and ECW shows all are on tv. remember when it was only Monday night Raw. Cena got the belt as a result of him doing work for WWE production latest Movie. (do you think he really hurt his Neck if rehab is making Movies then you need to be better informed and you just got jobbed) And the whole Jeff hardy angle was to let Edge get back to be the champ Jeff went out on the perfect work did not see that coming. you got worked again bottom line its a show.

Posted By: thebigdog (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:25 PM

 
 
As much as I can't stand Cena and his stale kiddie act, it is always a safety net and probable business sense to make him champ as he is the biggest star in the company.

For us smartypant fans we have Edge to enjoy now.

WWE are offering the best of both worlds.

Raw for all the annoying 10 year old mark newbies with Cena.

Smackdown for all us smartass appricative fans of real talent and hard work with Edge.


Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 01:31 PM

 
 
why no ratings!

Posted By: oh (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 03:58 PM

 
 
Do you actually that Edge heel talent wise is BETTER than Jericho and/or MVP or that he is WRITTEN to be a better heel than Jericho or MVP? There is a difference. I added MVP for a reason... just wanna get your opinion....
Posted By: Industry (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Honestly? Not to pick a fight with you but yes I do think edge is a better heal than the both of them. Because Ok Jericho was cool back in the day when he would go back and forth with The Rock. Oops Taboo name? Is it okay to say that yet WWE or are you still burned he stayed successful after leaving. anyway. I think MVP is only Ego and really that's all he has going for him as far as heal-ness goes. Now, Edge is clearly my favorite wrestler, so I am kinda biased. Now onto Wrestlemania Predictions.

Wrestlemania Main Even: Imma go out on a limb since so many people Say Edge vs. Hardy. Im going to say No to you. My Prediction is, Christian Returns at the Royal Rumble Wins and challenges Edge. We get to see Ultimate Face Christian against Ultimate Heal Edge in... Lets say a Ladder Match. But hey thats just me.


Posted By: EdgeHead (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 04:06 PM

 
 
"Smackdown for all us smartass appricative fans of real talent and hard work with Edge."

You're not the only one, but lots of guys imply that John Cena does not work hard, that he is just given the title and he doesn't work for anything.

Actually, lots of guys have came out and said that John Cena is the hardest working man in the business. Triple H and Paul Heyman, two guys in the business on opposite sides of the spectrum, have both said that John Cena works harder than anyone in the business.

According to interviews I've heard/read on 411, John Cena lives for the business. He's not wrestling so he can get into acting, or MMA, or anything like that. He wrestles because he wants to wrestle.

Make up all the shit you want guys, but don't say he doesn't work hard. That's a fallacy if I've ever heard one.


Posted By: Homie (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 04:22 PM

 
 
for all ya'll haters cena is the best there is, the best there was, and the best that there will ever be (same goes for the RKO)

Posted By: Guest#4278 (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:05 PM

 
 
The Lord Giveth :- Edge returns, New Champ,all is right with the world (or should that be "Universe")

The Lord Taketh Away :- Cena returns, New Champ, the WWE is shite once again.


Posted By: Cock Knocker (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:08 PM

 
 
Hahaha Guest#7002, I'm taking it that you don't see the irony in blasting people for "being on their high horse" and then acting like you're better than everyone.

Ahhh, the internet, there's really no place like it.


Posted By: LOL HYPOCRITE (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:16 PM

 
 
"for all ya'll haters cena is the best there is, the best there was, and the best that there will ever be (same goes for the RKO)"

So it's a tie?


Posted By: J.D. Dunn (Registered)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:30 PM

 
 
Since I burned my money for this PPV, I have my review:

Team HBK vs. Team JBL: Really nice match. Good action from start to finish. Kane wasn't in long and Khali's role was limited, so the better workers were in for most of the match. A pleasant surprise. That being said, I was disappointed to see HBK pin Morrison clean given that Miz and Morrison just beat him and Rey on Raw.

Team Raw Divas vs. Team Smackdown Divas: Rapid fire pinfalls that meant nothing. The live crowd didn't even react to most of the pinfalls. By the way, the announcers are all calling the elimination tags. They're doing a good job of not talking over each other considering there were four guys.

The Undertaker vs. Big Show: Wow, that match was lame. No surprises with the casket and the finish was really weak.

Team Orton vs. Team Batista: Decent match, but I've seen enough of the Survivor Series elimination matches for one year. The women's elimination match was overkill. By the way, the live crowd counted along and popped for Orton's pinfall win over Batista.

WWE Championship match: The Hunter vs. Kozlov match was beyond boring. The crowd popped big when Edge's music played and the big swerve was well done, although this had to piss off fans who ordered the pay-per-view to see Hardy challenge for the belt.

World Heavyweight Championship match: Good match, to bad Jericho dropped the belt so fast...again.


Posted By: InsideExpert (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:37 PM

 
 
There's no doubt McMahon worships Cena. He let Cena win the title in his "hometown" after being gone for several months. Poor Jericho. He's my favorite wrestler on Raw and it sucked seeing him lose.

Posted By: dude11767 (Registered)  on November 24, 2008 at 05:39 PM

 
 
dam yall get off cena he isn't all that bad and im happy edge is new champion!!!!

Posted By: D.A.N. (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:17 PM

 
 
I love John Cena, if only for the fact that he makes all you virgins cry your eyes out.

WAAAHHHHHH!!!

Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:52 AM

I hate John Cena, but funny how idiots like u will receive any juices he gives u
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 01:46 AM

...I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, since English is clearly difficult for you, but I think you've just proven my point. Thank you.

Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:15 AM

HA! and all you proved was how big of a Cena mark you are if you couldn't understand what I wrote. Oh well guess it's time for another serving of Cena's Cemen in your mouth huh?

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!


Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:30 PM

 
 
This is exactly why the territories were so important to the growth of a wrestlers career. If you had become stale in Florida, then get your ass to Texas. Cant get over in Memphis? Go to Georgia. With all these fertile grounds for the wrestlers to work in you never had all of this predictability. If you want to see some great surprise looks check out the Midnight Express and jim Cornette during the Original express ambush. Or when Terry Gordy slammed the cage door on Kerry Von Erich. Tommy Rich hiding under the ring during the Lawler Idol cage match.[ I was lucky enough to be there for that one...Memphis nearly rioted]. WRESTLING NEEDS MORE PLACES TO HAVE NATIONAL EXPOSURE...Untill that time the world title picture wont mean shit

Posted By: old school fan (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:32 PM

 
 
I AM PISSED OFF...THAT I PAID 40 BUCKS FOR THIS LOAD OF CRAP.

Posted By: Jackman (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:35 PM

 
 
Ok, I get it guys, you all love Edge. He's a great personality and can work a match well. BUT, so can Cena, I really just don't understand everyone's hatred for Cena. Could someone please explain this to me??? (Without just saying, "he sucks" or something like that. A legit reason.

Posted By: Cena is Champ (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:26 AM

I can only speak for myself on the Cena hate. Personally it's not that I HATE Cena...I just think that his Hulk Hogan in the 80s like build is ridiculous. The guy loses a ton of matches before his injury....and is given a title match on his return? I will give him credit on improving himself as a wrestler as he goes, but more often than not it's the same old thing, and a lot of fans, like myself, are tired of seeing it. Spice the character up a bit (which does NOT mean a new shirt, although I'll admit they're sweet...well some anyway), give him an edge, maybe turn him heel, give him some new life, see what happens.


Posted By: Steve (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:36 PM

 
 
Thats a tremendous point. Cena was at his most popular during his "thug" gimmick, but he was a WORSE WRESTLER then. When ONE group of fans started chanting "You can't wrestle", you bitches jumped on the bandwagon and then TURN AROUND and cheer others "who can't wrestle" because you're programmed to.Please just STFU because I do have a mind of my own unlike u Cena nuthuggers I have more reason to why Cena sucks wasy before so sorry you EPICLY FAIL especially when Cena is the one alwasy getting carried.

Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 06:37 PM

 
 
Dear Whiners,

It's just wrestling. Sit back and relax and just watch the show. Be patient and let's see what happens on Raw and Smackdown before you get your panties in a bunch.

Chill.

Sincerely,

Your friend,

Chico.

Posted By: Chico (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Well said Chico. At least give it a chance to see how the angle's play out.


Posted By: AndreFan (Registered)  on November 24, 2008 at 07:21 PM

 
 
Edge and Cena....all is right in the world.

Posted By: MacDollarz. (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 07:32 PM

 
 
I love John Cena, if only for the fact that he makes all you virgins cry your eyes out.

WAAAHHHHHH!!!

Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 12:52 AM

I hate John Cena, but funny how idiots like u will receive any juices he gives u
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 01:46 AM

...I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, since English is clearly difficult for you, but I think you've just proven my point. Thank you.

Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 08:15 AM

HA! and all you proved was how big of a Cena mark you are if you couldn't understand what I wrote. Oh well guess it's time for another serving of Cena's Cemen in your mouth huh?

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Posted By: THEHAVOK (Guest) on November 24, 2008 at 06:30 PM


This is classic! Please, continue. You just can make up this stuff!


Posted By: lol wrestling (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:11 PM

 
 
I'm not a huge fan of Cena's character, but I'll admit he's a gamer. I just don't see the point of putting the belt on him ASAP when Jericho was stealing the show! I hope there's a good explanation soon. Edge getting the belt makes sense because of his persona. It just fits and the crowd wil eat it up. Edge and Jericho are the ring leaders right now. I was hoping they would bring in Cena differently thats all.

Posted By: jyv (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 08:58 PM

 
 
I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I???

Posted By: A Cena Hating Cena Sucker (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:33 PM

 
 
Wow, im officially DONE watching this crap! John Cena is back whoopty doo! Somebody play the freakin bagpipes for this lame, boring, hes going to hold the belt forever, loser! The only good thing that came from this PPV was edge is back and pulled a Jericho and snuck in the title match and won the belt. WOW I never saw that coming! Geez this blows! Count this wwe fan out for good and not just when cena loses the belt.

Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:49 PM

 
 
First, I will say that I am a big John Cena fan. I think he has a good work ethic in the ring and as he has gone on he has become a better wrestler. And Lord knows he has the mic skills. That being said, I do agree that there needs to be a change with his gimmick. Nothing huge, just a little tweaking in my opinion. Maybe giving him a little more edge, letting him go on his freestyling, add some darkness somehow for a little while. Just look at what is being done with Jeff Hardy. He is still extreme,the "risk taker" and all, but the whole "confusion" and "living in a world of gray" thing has helped in my opinion. It gives him another dimension for the fans to see and it really hasn't been a HUGE change. Just a little something different sprinkled in rather than the same old thing.
John Cena losing a few matches before he was injured and then coming back and getting a title win right away didn't help his cause I don't think. I wonder if WWE could have had Jericho get the win, but have Cena start a new build up to a title reign by being made to still look strong for the home fans (maybe he gets screwed by Orton who has had a dislike for him anyway). I don't know, I guess we will just see how it all plays out.
I do think the Edge win works with his super psychotic character, even though he too was just coming back as well. Smackdown should be quite interesting now with he AND an edgier enigma in Jeff Hardy in the main event scene.
Finally on Kozlov, yes I do think he is slow, but I do feel he is an outstanding talent as far as pure WRESTLING. I feel that if given time, he will develop into a better overall match performer that fans might appreciate.


Posted By: keithman (guest) (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 09:55 PM

 
 
OK ..Lets just PRAY they don't turn the WHWT into yet another spinner belt.

Posted By: Nicole (Guest)  on November 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM

 
 
Have to say that I was pleasantly suprised with the Khali chant. JBL showed a hidden highlight (trying to attack Rey during the 619)and Cena vs Jericho was a great match (vintage Liontamer!). But Taker vs Show was boring as was the WWE Title match. Overall quite an average show!

Posted By: AH (Guest)  on November 25, 2008 at 08:31 AM

 
 
only thing I remember of this show, is they jobbed Victoria to some slut. last time I saw her, she was a banana. I hope she gets paid murder money.

Posted By: tully (Guest)  on November 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM

 
 
I thought Undertakers match was crap which sucks, cause hes my favorite wrestler. Koslov is worse at wrestling than the Great Khali. EDGE IS THE MAN! Cena sucks. Go Chris Jericho.

Posted By: Abraham Theodore (Guest)  on November 25, 2008 at 05:58 PM

 


www.41mania.com
Copyright (c) 2011 411mania.com, LLC. All rights reserved.
Click here for our privacy policy. Please help us serve you better, fill out our survey.
Use of this site signifies your agreement to our terms of use.