A Brace for Impact 12.25.08
Posted by Jarrod Westerfeld on 12.26.2008
Lansdell's away and you're left with the grumpy, bitter New Yorker talking about Impact with the Raw Recapper, Rob McNew. Join in on the festivities as presented by this very special Christmas edition of Impact.
Greetings, humanity! Welcome to A Brace for Impact, where two 411mania writers give you their real-time thoughts on the show as it happens. I'm your host Chris Lansdell, and each week a special guest will be joining me.
Greetings, all. Welcome to A Brace for Impact as hosted by yours truly, Jarrod Westerfeld. For the next two weeks instead of getting yourself some Lansdellicious loving at this time you're getting treated to some grumpy bitterness straight out of a hood rat's asshole. This probably won't be nearly as shiny or hold a sunny disposition much like Chris's version but then again when have any of you come to know me as either of those things?
Before we get to the guest, I've noticed from the comments section that some people don't seem to get the column, while some love it. Let me explain a few things about A Brace for Impact:
This is not a play-by-play report. El Jefe Csonka does a fine job of that. This is more along the lines of the multi-person Instant Analysis we do for PPVs, but more spontaneous.
This is not meant to be a non-stop laugh-fest. It's to give you some insight into the thought process of the writers, which is especially important when it comes to a show like Impact which is often maligned.
It's still a work in progress. The format is getting better each week and I'm still tweaking it. However, it's not going to change much from what you see today. It's not for everyone, but then no column is. Except the awesome Lansdell's Sunday Brunch whatever the fuck it is Chris is pawning off these days, of course.
After copying and pasting a lot of the old template that Lansdell had so kindly forwarded to me let's meet our guest, the brave soul who volunteered Christmas night to enjoy an episode of Impact with me the writer of the Raw Live Coverage and Raw Report, Rob McNew. Say hello to the fine people, Rob.
Rob: Rob McNew the RAW recapper taking time out of my Christmas to punish mys...errr...enjoy an exciting night of Impact Jarrod: Hey, there could be a Christmas miracle...though Las Vegas odds would be strong against it tonight.
Cut to –
BANNER!
Mick Foley and the League of Extraordinary Champions
Rob: Was this message paid for by the nWo? Jarrod: I would like to think of them more like the mWo - Millionaire's World Order. After all, most of these guys are getting paid 3 times what the home-grown talents are being offered. At least. And we'll be beginning with Mick Foley doing what he does best: cutting a promo. Rob: It is his speciality, just stay out of the ring Mick Jarrod: But if he wasn't in a ring, how would you know this is a wrestling show? Rob: Don't take things so literally my friend Jarrod: So I take it the MEM is basically the Horsemen and the nWo had a child who was later molested by the Millionaire's club? Rob: Thats fair, leave it TNA to rehash an angle that WCW ran in the year 2000. Because we all know how much business they did then. Jarrod: I love that the TNA World Champion is in the background while the TNA Legends Champion stands out in front - of course he's still behind Angle's shadow and all. If this leads to Al Snow coming out in a suit and a fake title, I quit. Whether it be now or 12 years from now, I quit. Rob: If this leads to Al Snow ever appearing on television again I quit. In any capacity Rob: So Rhino vs. Angle with Jarrett at ringside. I'm sure that will have a clean finish Jarrod: I'm sure that will in no way result in any shenanigans. Rob: Offbeat or otherwise.
Rhino the Instant Classic
Rob: I thought he came to TNA because WWE wished him well in future endeavors Jarrod: Well, there was that, of course. But beyond that, Rhino's new found ability to handle a promo is very relevant. I wonder who he mugged to get these skills? Rob: Yes, this is like bizarro Rhino. Another great promo.
Kyoshi vs. Chris Sabin w/Alex Shelley
Jarrod: So Eric Young wins the title, gets it stripped off of him because of ref shenanigans, then he wins it again and it's stripped of him because of shenanigans? Rob: You got it, and now we have a Muta imposter Jarrod: I was going to point that out but I didn't want to draw any attention to this company pulling that stunt a second time. At least he isn't a backwards killer. Rob: In fairness I believe he was actually trained by Muta. Jarrod: Yeah; but to be more fair, he wasn't booked right at all. Rob: Hey its the guy from Iran with no accent. Jarrod: It's the guy who has Hussan's gimmick but isn't nearly as over as Hassan. Rob: The blood stained turban is pretty awesome though. Jarrod: It reminds me of when Joe was awesome in this company. Shame he doesn't get that kind of push to get people to care about what kind of threat he can be. Rob: Meanwhile Sabin and Baby Muta are putting on quite a fun little match. Too bad it will be over soon. They've gone what two minutes already? Jarrod: They're almost 4 minutes in and I'm in shock this is still going on. Doesn't this company have a lot of segments to get to? They can't be wasting time on such a silly thing like wrestling. Rob: And as you hit enter, the match ends. Jarrod: Well, I have impeccable timing...I think... Rob: Was he hulking up? Jarrod: He was attempting it. Note to TNA: the game flopped, time to forget about Suicide working.
Winner: Chris Sabin pinned Kyoshi (Cradle Shock)
Rob: Criminally Short Match, but definately fun while it lasted. Sabin always delivers. **1/4
Jarrod: A fun little match that got just a bit of time to get the crowd into it. It isn't a classic, it won't be memorable a year from now but at least it was fun to watch. I'd have to give it about ** flat.
Just For Lansdell: Dat Azz Squared Meets the Marks
Rob: Ye, gods the Palin garbage begins. Jarrod: Wait, this is the Palin impersonator they got? This woman who looks nothing like Palin. Rob: Its actually Daffney from WCW. Jarrod: ...anything for a paycheck, I guess. I can't complain too much then, I'd probably do the same if in her position. I'm just so glad that TNA made that a priority worth cutting the Sabin/Kyoshi match short just to ensure brilliant segments like that get air time. Rob: Can someone please make Kip James put some clothes on? When he is wearing less than both of the ladies we've got a problem. Jarrod: Kip James was in that segment? I was looking more at the ladies and the fact that they were trying to sell me shit I didn't care for. Rob: Yeah, he was there. Wearing Shawn Michaels shorts circa 1997. Jarrod: Well, if Kip ever comes across Shawn's hair circa 1995, I'm sure Shawn would appreciate it if it was returned to him.
Jarrett and Angle HATE~ Each Other
Rob: I've got to give TNA credit. The Jarrett-Angle feud has been incredibly well built. Jarrod: I'm of the opposite spectrum. Since when does the face act like a heel by putting all the obstacles in the path of the heel to prevent them from having a rematch? It hurts my head how TNA likes to switch up the roles like this. But I guess that's a minor gripe. Rob: I really like these sit down interviews. It works a lot better than some silly skit or vignette, in my opinion. Jarrod: It bugs me how they do this and the rest of the show doesn't invite you to understand the structure of the stories in the same manner. Why can't everything else on this show be this orderly and clean cut? Rob: Oh my, this is straight out of the nWo playbook. Jarrod: Where's Bischoff to help sell this? Rob: They should go ahead and put control of Impact on the line in the Jarrett-Angle match. Then we can watch MEM Impact. Jarrod: I'm sure everyone would appreciate a company called MEM better than they do of one called TNA. Jarrod: But that's just speculation. Rob: A "W" in the title would be helpful. Jarrod: No, that would mislead people to think this company was about wrestling. We wouldn't want the fans confused by that pesky "W".
Beer Money Inc. Rough Cut: Kayfabe is Still Dead
Rob: Is that a Braden Walker sighting? Jarrod: Braden Walker must be proud that he opted to break up the best tag team in TNA's history to pursue a career in the WWE. Rob: He's had some brains to knock out, can you blame him? Jarrod: Well, I guess when TNA is having you work with Dustin Rhodes you'd best be looking for work elsewhere.
In Morgan We Thank
Jarrod: Oh thank you lord, no more Abyss promos. Rob: Thank you Matt for not letting him speak. Jarrod: Matt Morgan is now trying to channel Psycho Sid. At least he has a sense of when to be quiet and menacing and loud and threatening. Jarrod: I wonder if Sid watched with a notepad?
D-Von and AJ Dudley Talk Business
Rob: So is AJ now an honorary member of the Dudley family? Jarrod: AJ Dudley...nah, I can't see it. I don't think I want to see it, at least. You know he had me until he flipped out. Rob: Yeah, that totally killed what was a great promo Rob: Nice to see the Front Line have matching T-Shirts though Jarrod: Shame the MEM t-shirt looks better. Why is that? Rob: Nice spit on the camera. Jarrod: He's still got nothing on Big Show's ability. Rob: If you're scoring at home we're heading into the 4th quarter hour and have had a grand total of four minutes of wrestling Jarrod: I'd give the benefit of 5 minutes of wrestling, just to round up the time rather than down. I'm just a nice enough guy like that. Rob: Oh well then its all good then. Somewhere in Canada, Lance Storm's head is exploding. Jarrod: And somewhere in my head I'm wondering why I don't have hard liquor in the house for times like these.
Alex Shelley Encounters Wild Eric Young
Jarrod: In 9 minutes we see more MEM and Frontline stuff - that's more important than just a promo featuring the Guns. Rob: That was random, aren't they supposed to be on the same team? Jarrod: Alex Shelley just randomly encountered a wild Eric Young. I guess Shelley didn't have his pokeball ready, or something. I don't know what they're doing with the Guns and Frontline anymore, if anything. Rob: I guess this means another segment without a match? Jarrod: I'm confused; I thought this was the match. I guess I was just being hopeful for another match on tonight's show. Rob: Nice dog pile, it looks the Gunns just won the World Series. All of that to hype a semifinal match on the next Impact? Jarrod: I hope to god that TNA Mobile fucking explodes. Just burns to the damned ground and we never hear from it ever again.
Divas or Knockouts? You Decide '08!
Rob: So apparantely we're gonna rip off the Santa's Little Helper match from Armageddon? Jarrod: The TNA Divas...amazing, they actually managed to make some of these girls look horrible. Rob: Divas? You mean knockouts right? Jarrod: No. I meant what I said - shame too, because the Beautiful People actually had a hook to their presence in the division as they were the ones acting like actresses who had to wrestle on occasion. Rob: Pushing Christy Hemme as their top babyface knockout, diva, woman, whatever kinda shoots a grand canyon sized hole in the whole "we're not diva's we're wrestlers" thing, huh? Jarrod: Yeah, that's a true statement. I don't ever want to hear that the Knockouts are better than the Divas when you take into consideration who the face of the Knockouts is, currently. Rob: When she wins the title, and lets be honest that is going to happen, WWE will have Beth Phoenix and they will have Christy Hemme. Enough said.
The Frontline (AJ Styles and Brother D-Von) vs. MEM (Booker T and Scott Steiner)
Jarrod: You mean...we're actually going to get a MATCH!? Rob: Whats this? A match? Jarrod: Maybe we're just imagining things. Maybe this is just a segment? Rob: So I forgot, they'll get in that stage type thing with ropes around it, and have a physical confrontation of some kind? Jarrod: I believe that's how this works. I mean, I could be wrong. After all, TNA used to mean "we are wrestling" so they would know better than the rest of us what wrestling actually is. Rob: Here comes Brother D-Von and Brother J Jarrod: You know what I just thought? If they had the teams come out as actual teams, using their stable themes, we actually could have gotten 3 more minutes of wrestling time in this match. Just an observation. Rob: excellent point, now they'll pull a WWE and go to commercial now that everyone is in the ring. Jarrod: If they stretch this out for another 15 minutes we'd have actually gone a full hour without a wrestling match. Shame that this, too, could have been a pay-per-view match instead of a free television bout. It just means that the actual pay-per-view has to do something else to try and get the fans interested in buying the damned thing. Rob: To be fair, I'm not sure it would matter. The only people who are buying TNA pay per views are the hardcore TNA junkies who'd buy it if the main event was Kurt Angle vs. Shark Boy in an ironman match. Was this no DQ and I missed it? Jarrod: Even I don't think they're that deluded...but I could be proven wrong. Rob: oh, its a no contest, and it ended during the break. Loverly. Jarrod: So they put a tv finish in a tv match that, again, could have been a ppv match? And this is now just one big segment? Rob: Do they really need to keep calling these "hits"? Is there something wrong with "beatdown"? Jarrod: If they insist upon that then I demand that the MEM set up a gang of shooters at a toll booth ready to take fire upon Jeff Jarrett as he looks to cross. Rob: I'd mark out like crazy if they offed Jarrett in kayfabe. Its the next natural step for TNA. Jarrod: Where the hell is the rest of the Frontline? Do they not protect their own? Do they have better things to do than help out their big stars? Rob: No their locker room is just apparantely located somewhere in Tampa Jarrod: At least they came out before AJ was stomped. That makes sense. Shame that the Frontline looks so weak against the 4 Millionaire World Order Horsemen. Rob: So they all run out, and immediately all get beaten down. Could the Frontline look any weaker? Foley runs like my Grandmother Jarrod: Yes, they could - Mikey Whipwreck could have been Angle's guest and become a member of the MEM. Having to sell for Whipwreck is an instant burial. Rob: Okay, the ENTIRE FRONTLINE gets destroyed, and 60 year old Mick Foley comes out and cleans house Jarrod: So Mick Foley is stronger than the entire Frontline and is more dominant? I don't even care for the payoff for this feud anymore. We're now moved on to the feud between MEM and Foley. Rob: Well there's still Jarrett. But yeah, no one can take the Frontline seriously anymore. Jarrod: Yeah, that's true. It's going to take a lot for us to take them seriously ever again. Rob: I guess Bubba, D-Von, and Joe have all been taken out, and AJ was already beaten down...
Winner: Match Ended in a No Contest.
Jarrod: It was short lived and did more to set up a segment than further the feud that shows that the Frontline are dangerous equals to the MEM. For what it was worth it gets a *3/4 just for at least trying to be a wrestling match.
Rob: Well before the break we had a nice little tag match going, and I was looking forward to a conculsion. But the finish was just setting up another segment and it came during the commercial. The finish actually came during the break on a show that is taped. Inexcusible. *
Foley Presents Genesis 2009 Selling Point
Rob: Foley channelling Pacino Jarrod: So we ARE stealing from the Godfather here - so why not James Caan Jeff Jarrett already? Another main event tag team match?! Rob: Oh for the love of god. Why Mick? Why? Jarrod: Why can't TNA just give us these tag matches on pay-per-view instead of throwing them on television just to "build" up to a bigger tag team match? Rob: Why should I pay to see Foley with two partners? I just saw him take out the whole damn group by himself Jarrod: You're totally right. There's no need to pay to see the Frontline handicap the dominant Foley.
Santa's Workshop Knockouts Streetfight:
Sojournor Bolt, Rahka Kahn, Raisha Saeed and Awesome Kong vs. Christy Hemme, Roxxi, Taylor Wilde and ODB
Rob: So only the faces dress up in Santa's Helper costumes? Thats no good, I was looking forward to seeing Kong in a Mrs. Claus outfit Jarrod: And look bad in the get-ups. Rob: Christy's Christmas costume consists of a Santa hat and a ribbon on her ass. How creative. Jarrod: There are no words to describe Roxxi and Taylor Wilde's "costumes". At least ODB tried. She may look like Simba, but at least it was an effort. Rob: Oh dear god, I could have lived another 100 years without seeing ODB's panties. Jarrod: Mind you, almost an hour and a half into this show, we've gotten almost 10 minutes of wrestling. Rob: So we see the entrances, with the faces all getting their own, and then go to break. Thats probably my number one pet peeve in all of wrestling. And they're both guilty of it. Jarrod: They didn't even start this match during the break. Does that mean they're cutting deeply into their important segment time? Rob: No it just means the crowd also only gets a 2 minute match. Jarrod: I swear to you, Taylor Wilde's get-up is a lost costume from the old Batman show. All she's missing is the cap, mask and utility belt and she'd be decked out in Robin's gear! Dragon Gate rules for a women's match? Rob: How am I supposed to buy Christy as a threat to Kong? Jarrod: Simple, you get really fucking drunk, and then toke up beyond belief. By the time you feel like Keith Richards then you're ready to buy Christy as a threat to Kong. Rob: I'm not sure theres enough mind altering substances on the planet for that to make sense.
Really I don't even like having Kong around, because I can't buy ANY woman as a threat to her. Jarrod: If MsChif could handle Kong, then clearly there are ladies out there who can beat her. Just TNA decided to dress up the other one in a burka, or whatever that is. Rob: Well that was quite the clusterfuck Jarrod: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Rhaka Khan is the worst women's wrestler in the business today.
Winner: Taylor Wilde pinned Rhaka Khan (Inside Cradle)
Jarrod: That match was just there; it wasn't bad, it wasn't horrible, it just wasn't good. At least we got a full match, though short. I'll probably have to hand that *3/4 just for being kind of there.
Rob: I disagree, I thought it was horrible. Just a bunch of random brawling with no real purpose. 1/4* for Christy's hotness. Nothing else stood out.
Kurt Angle w/ Sting vs. Rhino w/ Jeff Jarrett
Rob: Someone tell Sting he's a heel. Quit shaking hands with the fans please. Jarrod: But then he'd be acting like a bad guy. He can't do that, that would just be sinful and immoral. He can't be those things. Rob: Jarrett with his guitar...odds that gets bashed over someone's head in the next 15 minutes? Jarrod: Even Vegas wouldn't touch those odds as it's a suckers bet. Rob: So Hebner's the ref, and the boss is at ringside...I'd like to see TNA do something innovative and rehash the Montreal finish. Jarrod: Even I don't think TNA could pull off that moment without fucking it up. Rob: Wow, those refs sure got out there quick, its like they were just waiting. Jarrod: The refs don't have their own locker room, so they have to sit in with the crowd and watch from there. Rob: So I'm guessing the DQ comes during the break and the last 8 minutes will be a Rhino beatd...errr....hit, followed by a MEM promo. Maybe they can spraypaint his back or something. Jarrod: If that happens then this entire show would have been about 15 minutes of wrestling. That's about 5 minutes for each match, give or take. And if that's the case then I don't want to hear TNA and wrestling in the same sentence ever the fuck again - I'm serious about that. Rob: Order has been restored per Mike Tenay. Well THANK FUCKING GOD for that. I'm sure there will be no more tomfoolerly the remainder of the night. Jarrod: Oh, most assuredly. This company is so upstanding that I can't imagine them bamboozling their fans by not giving them at least one wrestling match on this card that focused just on the wrestling rather than the shenanigans. Rhino's eyes being referenced as glazed over without the reference of a donut being within his reach? Surely they jest! Rob: He's Rhinoing Up! Jarrod: I think that was really a diabetic induced seizure. Rob: Its hard to tell some times Jarrod: Well when you're entire work out regimen is that of crunching crispy cream donuts then it's hard to tell when the athlete begins and the waddling lard-ass ends. Rob: This is actually a pretty good match. Too bad there is zero chance of any kind of satsifying finish. Jarrod: What I don't get is how this wasn't their pay-per-view match. That bout was so freakin' boring in comparison to this one. Rob: Gee, didn't see that coming Jarrod: So this helped Rhino's bid for the title...how? Rob: Its really a good thing Angle brought Sting out to watch his back Jarrod: Oh god, BG James is getting air time? Rob: Road Dogg gets laid out. The final thing we see is friggin BG James doing his best Vince McMahon impression with the quivering? Jarrod: Yup, because building his character is so important.
Winner: Kurt Angle wins via Disqualification (Jeff Jarrett interference)
Rob: The match was actually pretty good. Angle can pretty much carry anyone to a watchable match as evidenced again here. Perfectly acceptable television main event, even with the finish you could see coming a mile away. **1/2
Jarrod: So the final match actually got double digits in time, was somewhat better than the pay-per-view encounter between these two, and still managed to fail at the dubious task of building up the Angle/Jarrett feud while making Rhino look like a true threat to Sting. It got the first part right but the other task was a huge flop. The bout itself was still fine, though very slow and not what TNA fans come to expect from this company, so overall gets away with a **1/4 rating, just to be nice.
Final Thoughts
Rob: TNA had taken some steps in the right direction the past few weeks, but took a massive step back this week. Less than 20 minutes of wrestling, including FOUR whole minutes in the first hour of the show. Positive points for only one Palin segment instead of the two we had been getting, but the rest of the show as a whole was just plain garbage.
Jarrod: This show was downright painful. There was so much emphasis, again, on the MEM that we almost forget that they have a rival team that is supposed to be their equal counterparts that stand for the company. At no point did we get a sense that the Frontline is a functioning unit that really has their act together, and at no point did the MEM look vulnerable. To sum it up, this show was a complete throwaway. I get it, though, this was the holiday week and they just needed to fill in the week for the sake of keeping up their presence on Spike TV, but I would have rather TNA and Spike had opted not to air anything this week instead of this show. This was all the bad that TNA is recognized for, with almost no good.
I'd like to thank Rob for his help on this one, and until the next Impact folks, this was A Brace for Impact. Brace yourselves for next week, I know I'll be foraging for liquor much like a squirrel forages for nuts.
What a terrible show. Anyone else amazed that as of this moment the MEM vs TNA Frontline has a GRAND TOTAL of ONE TNA GUY? sheesh........Foley was almost too fat to get into the ring.
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 09:22 AM
I would really just like to point out that Mick Foley is officially better than the entire Frontline. Nuff said.
Posted By: CJ (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Okay, I've had enough. I am sick to my stomach of these WWE Kool-aid drinkers doing TNA recaps. I really think it would be fitting to have someone who isn't biased doing the recaps. Not having two Vince-lovers finding anything they can to bash TNA and ALL their efforts. This is utterly RIDICULOUS!!! I know TNA makes mistakes in judgement at times, but they have grown tremendously and are doing a much better job than they used to with all the "on a pole" matches back in the past. On top of that for any of these guys to insist that the Knockouts aren't better than the divas is absolute lunacy. Its because of this that I am through with this site. This is absurd! I am a wrestling fan who finds alot wrong with BOTH promotions, but the WWE has no excuse as they have been around for decades, been through the grinding, but overly entertaining Monday Night Wars, and has more mainstream attention. How is it they continue to offer us sub-par performances with their weekly shows and ppvs. I'm not excusing TNA for the things they do wrong, but for a company only around for six years, they've done a fantastic job of accumulating talent and turning profit. They are getting better and better. Can we really say that about the WWE? These two guys on this recap are so biased TNA could never do anything to satisfy them. Example, the idea that Edge, who didn't earn any title shot and Cena, who was injured, showed up out of nowhere and won their world titles when they did, was praised, Edge moreso. If TNA would have had someone win there World title out of nowhere, it would be crapped on badly. The MEM-Frontline saga has been built much better than the Millioinaire's club feud from WCW, and DON'T TELL ME WWE NEVER REHASHED OLD ANGLES FROM OTHER COMPANIES AND THEIR OWN CUZ THAT WOULD BE A HUGE LIE. STOP CRUCIFYING TNA AS IF THEY ARE THE ONLY PROMOTION THATS JACKED THINGS UP. IF YOU ASK ME, OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, THEY'VE DONE MORE THINGS RIGHT THAN THE WWE ANYWAY. AND I'M NOT BIASED. I'M JUST NOT AFRAID TO TELL THE TRUTH. FORGET THIS SITE. AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WHO READ THIS UNDERSTANDS THAT WRESTLING HAS CHANGED FOR THE WORSE OVER THE YEARS, BUT WE SHOULD ALL BE ROOTING FOR TNA TO SUCCEED CUZ WHEN THERE IS COMPETITION WE, THE FANS, WIN!
Posted By: Brady (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM
the only thing worse than this admittedly way below par show was this incredibly useless column. when both writers, and believe me that term is used very, very loosely, have decided before the beginning of the show that they do not like either impact or tna, what is the point of going on other than allowing them to stretch their unoriginal, sarcastic muscles?
Posted By: oldschoolfan (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I have an interesting question. The Main Event Mafia seems to be a collection of elitist former champions who wrestled in WWE &/or WCW. Let's say AJ Styles left for the WWE and won one of their main titles. He comes back 5-years later....would the Main Event Mafia welcome him with open arms?
And does anyone else think that Jarrett will join up with the MEM?
Posted By: the dude (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 01:32 PM
Before I begin...
It's Christmas, do we have to have the Grinch be the writer for Brace for Impact...tehehe
Seriously though, Jarrod man, are you gonna be at Final Battle. All criticism aside, I'm psyched for that shit.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 04:12 PM
AFTER reading the column...pretty much what I expected, but seriously though, I can enjoy wrestling a lot more without the IWC telling me what's cool and not cool to like. I get the storylines...sure there are some that I like more than others, but there isn't anything ridiculously bad about TNA or WWE at the moment so i find solace in that.
The MEM vs Frontline would be enjoyable if people were to simply get over the fact that its not gonna be so cut and dry. While people beg for "back to the basics" booking, the fact of the matter is, as "smart" as this community claims to be, they should be able to handle some complexity. Sadly, with every MEM victory and beatdown, there follows a groan that fails to realize that its all building towards a bigger payoff. To me, its actually a very basic, old-school formula of keeping the heels looking strong and saving the big payoff for somewhere down the road. I'll admit that eventually that does get redundant, which is why along the way, we see sprinkles of hope as the Frontline will gain a moral victory here and there ala last week's cage match.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Kudos to the pokeball!!
Posted By: RED (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 06:05 PM
Wow. This column was surprisingly very hard to read.
I agree with some of the other comment-posters in saying that, what's the point reading a column where the two writers who are contributing to such column make it clear from the start that they hate everything about the show, and the company, they're watching? It just doesn't make sense.
I read all the way up to the Knockouts match conversation, before I had to stop. This column was full of biasness, and unfunny sarcastic commentary.
Just a bad, bad effort.
Hopefully next week, since I believe Westerfield is still filling in, we tries to be less subjective and full of bias and is able to try and...well, enjoy what he's watching.
Jarrod, if you're being forced to watch something for the sake of a column, then you should not be doing the column. Pass up on it. Pawn it off onto someone who can watch things for what they are, and who could comment on the show as it's happening, not someone having preconceived negative thoughts before the show starts.
Is it that hard to have some actual unbiased reports on this site?
Posted By: Creepy Old Young Man (Guest) on December 26, 2008 at 06:18 PM
Wow.
This column was surprisingly very EASY to read.
I DO NOT agree with some of the other comment-posters in saying that, what's the point reading a column where the two writers who are contributing to such column make it clear from the start that they hate everything about the show.
It just makes A LOT OF sense.
I read all the way and DID NOT
stop.
This column was full of GREATness, and Funny sarcastic commentary.
Just a Rad, aWESOME effort.
Hopefully next week, since I believe Westerfield is still filling in, He tries to be MORE subjective and full of GREATNESS and is able MAKE US enjoy what he's wRITing.
Jarrod, . DO NOT Pass up on it.DO NOT Pawn it off onto someone who can watch things for what they are .
Is it that EASY to have some actual unbiased reports on this site?
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P.S.
TAYLOR WILDE IS AWESOME
CHRISTY HEMME AND RHAKA KHAN DESERVE
TO DIE
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EPIC FAIL
IS RVD BACK YET ?
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My work here is done.
Posted By: Wild Child (Guest) on December 27, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Wow, the same arguments I always hear. "TNA has no wrestling. TNA has stupid gimmicks. TNA doesn't have enough wrestling on its shows. TNA doesn't have the word wrestling in its stupid name!" Enough. I'm sick of hearing the same complaints I've heard since 2002. This style of review was so hard to follow, I gave up after the second match. No wonder nobody reads this site anymore. This was the first time I've been here in three months because of Csonka and others bashing TNA for no reason, yet you guys jizz over RoH and WWE like they actually do anything better. WWE doesn't have enough wrestling on its shows. WWE would rather wrestlers be called "entertainers" than "wrestlers" or even have the word "sport" associated. WWE has had more DQ endings to title matches in the last year than TNA. But I guess when you're arguing bullshit, you have to ignore facts. You disgust me.
Posted By: Dean (Guest) on December 27, 2008 at 01:08 AM
Brady, unclench and die.
Posted By: King Nikolai (Guest) on December 27, 2008 at 06:33 AM
"This is not meant to be a non-stop laugh-fest."
Well I'm glad you cleared that up for me. I was reading what I assume were supposed to be "jokes" but was confused because they were so unfunny. Then I went back and re-read your guidelines and was reassured that you know you aren't funny.
Posted By: JTX (Guest) on December 27, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Aw, a bunch of crybabies don't like TNA criticisms and claim nobody reads 411.
Face it, TNA put themselves in a position where they constantly claim "We Are Wrestling". They promote how they are the "True Alternative". There is nothing that is really different from WWE.
I am still surprise how people have that "Just wait, you'll see!" attitude. Hmm, Joe becomes champ... Jarrett returns... Foley debuts in TNA... and still no F'n big payoff. I'd be surprised if the MEM storyline actually has a good payoff, but sometimes complex stuff doesn't equal "good idea"!
But what do I know... "I'm biased and unfunny, wahwahwah!"
Posted By: Guest #1999 (Guest) on December 27, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Just for the record, I find it funny everyone brings up the whole "We Are Wrestling" thing when they scrapped that tag-line months ago. Seriously, get over it.
Granted, this was a bad show wrestling wise, but we've not got 5 matches on the card for the next PPV confirmed (Sting vs Rhino, Jarrett vs Angle, Frontline vs MEM, Christy vs Kong and the final of the X Division tournament). They did a good job of setting out those matches, the Jarrett vs Angle feud has been built well, and I'm loving the MEM vs Frontline stuff, I don't care what other IWC smarks think, if it entertains me, it is successful.
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on December 27, 2008 at 09:40 PM
@ Chris:
Now, that's a good response.
Posted By: Guest #1999 (Guest) on December 28, 2008 at 01:30 AM
Thanks Guest #1999.
I'm going to say this, I am a big TNA fan, I am willing to defend things as long as I think they make sense. Some people take shots at nothing, or at least at stuff WWE does on a regular basis that they are praised for. I'm not saying anything like that to bash WWE, I'm saying if its fine for one company, then why should people think its right to complain when another does it?
Just taking a look through the column again (since first time I give up), but this comment confuses me:
Jarrod: So this helped Rhino's bid for the title...how?
Jarrod, I know you probably wont respond to this, and fair enough, but my question to you is this. Were you watching the match or just reading the results? It doesn't help his bid for the title since he already has the match by beating the champion in a non-title match, you know, the old fashioned way, he didn't get a title shot because he kicked someone in the head or because he is over with the kids and coming back from an injury. As for the reason I asked the question, did you actually see Rhino tap out? Did Rhino come off as weak for someone that is outside of his control? Angle slapped Jarrett and then side-stepped him, sending him into the barricade, all this coupled with his constant abuse, I would personally want to get my hands on Angle in that situation, so Jarrett snapped, got in the ring and hit Angle, Rhino didn't give up, he was fighting the submission, that shows he is resilient, and if anything that coupled with his non-title win over Sting makes me more likely to think of him as a potential champion in the future.
All that being said, I wish TNA would limit the segments. The Beautiful People and the Sarah Palin bullshit has to stop. The way I see it, they offered her an invite to Final Resolution, she said no, fine, mock her stupidity and get it over with, 1 segment would have done fine, but this shit has gone on for over a month now, can we please just kill it?
Posted By: Chris (Guest) on December 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM
nobody cares about wrestling anymore we need more backstage segments
Posted By: steven r (Guest) on December 28, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Let me clarify my earlier comment, because some people seem to have misunderstood me.
I am NOT praising TNA for their effort this week. To be quite honest, it was a very poor, throwaway show. But one could expect such an outcome on a show help on Christmas night. But I digress.
What my main gripe was, the columnists of which were reviewing the show, clearly implied they came into the show prepared to hate it. When you come with those negative preparations, it's very hard to enjoy the show for what it was.
For every positive comment they made about something TNA did this week, there were about three negative comments, because the intent they came into the show with was that they were going to dislike it, and they found every reason TO dislike it.
When you're analyzing things looking for the bad, you're going to find the bad. They didn't come into the show with a neutral feeling...they were sure they were going to hate it, and they found every reason to do such.
That's all I'm saying.
Yes, there was lots to hate about this show, but there were some enjoyable portions and there were also some solid storyline progression.
Take the bad with the good. Don't just look for one or the other, look for them both. Be a little more open-minded and the column would be a better read.
Posted By: Creepy Old Young Man (Guest) on December 28, 2008 at 04:00 PM
And THAT'S the end of me reading this column.
Why you idiots at 411 seem to enjoy having people who hate a show review it is beyond me.
I have no problem with honest opinions about quality, but it's obvious that 90% of the 411 idiot squad hates TNA, so why have them review shows that they're predisposed to hate?
Just skip the reviews the weeks you can't get anyone who can at least be impartial to review them. Better than reading this dredge by unfunny, untalented pseudo-writers.
Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest) on December 29, 2008 at 06:17 PM