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411's WWE Raw Report 01.05.09
Posted by Rob McNew on 01.05.2009



-Welcome to 411's first Raw report of 2009. Ten years ago yesterday arguably the most historic night of Monday Night Wars took place as Mankind won his first World Championship on Monday Night Raw by defeating The Rock with a little help from Stone Cold Steve Austin. Meanwhile over on Nitro the infamous Fingerpoke of Doom which saw Kevin Nash drop the WCW World Title to a returning Hulk Hogan. It was essentially the D-Day of the Monday Night War as WCW never really recovered from the events of that evening. That was a decade ago. Make you feel old? Yeah me too. Will tonight be as historic? Probably not, but it still should be a fun night. So lets get started shall we?

-Live from New Orleans Arena in New Orleans, LA

-Hosted by Michael Cole & Jerry "The King" Lawler

-Tonights show opens with a recap of the Shawn Michaels-JBL angle starting with Armageddon and leading up to last weeks fatal four way which saw Shawn take a dive for JBL sending him to the Royal Rumble to face John Cena for the World Heavyweight Championship.

-Randy Orton and Chris Jericho are in the ring for a joint promo. Jericho states they are here to address the atrocity of last week. Jericho states that the rules clearly state that the rules are every man for himself, but it is clear that JBL and Michaels were working together. As a result they are filing a formal protest. Orton states they feel that JBL should be removed from the title match at the Royal Rumble and Shawn Michaels should not be allowed to compete. Orton states that he and Jericho have agreed to a match tonight with the winner going on to face Cena. Jericho says the fans don't have to like it, but at least they fought an honest match. That brings out JBL and Shawn Michaels together in JBL's limo. JBL says they can protest all they want, but the facts are that he won the match and he will be facing Cena at the Rumble. JBL asks them to lose with a little dignity. He says they have the audacity to cast aspersions at him considering their track records. JBL claims they would have done the same given their track records if they had the resources. Jericho says he always does things on the up and up, and then moves on to Michaels. He says everything he said over the summer has been proven to be true. Shawn retorts that the one thing that keeps him from being completely sickened with himself is knowing he personally cost both of them from fighting for the title. Orton goes for the heart saying that saying that Shawn has taken a turn for the worse. He says not only is he hurting himself, but now Ric Flair's career has been ended by a weak pathetic sellout. Orton states the real shame is that once the protest is heard and the result is overturned it will all be for nothing. That brings out Stephanie McMahon. Stephanie says since Shawn didn't lie down the referees decision stands and the protest is denied. She officially places both Orton and Jericho in the Royal Rumble. Jericho says thats not supposed to be a reward because they should be in anyway. Jericho says that Shawn Michaels should not be in the Royal Rumble based on his actions. JBL says he'll yield to that demand because Shawn's sole function will be to be serve as his cornerman. Stephanie says the easy thing to do now would be to make a tag match between these four, but thats no fun so she instead decides to test Shawn's integrity by making tonights main event Orton and Jericho against Shawn and John Cena. Fantastic opening segment.

Goldust & Melina vs. Santino Marella & Beth Phoenix
Rosa Mendez again gets a front row seat. I guess jumping the rail doesn't even get you a week off. I'll have to remember that the next time I'm at a show. Beth starts with Melina. Beth sends Melina down with a headbutt. After an exchange of firsts Beth again takes Melina down with an elbow. Santino tags in and tries to grab Melina, but a slap allows her to tag Goldust. Goldust hits an armdrag. Santino fights back and gains control after a wristlock. Cover by Santino gets a two count and then he hits a headlock. Goldust fights out of that and hits an inverted atomic drop and follows up with a clothesline. Attempted kiss to Beth is rebuffed. Butt-butt by Goldust gets two as he sends Santino to the floor. Goldust tags in Melina which lets the women go at it again. Beth drives Melina into the corner, but a charge attempt meets Melina's boot. Melina goes to the top rope and hits a face buster. Jacknife rollup finishes abruptly for Melina giving her and Goldust the victory. Rosa Mendez jumps the rail again and security grabs her and takes her through the crowd. Melina goes out through the crowd after her but security keeps them apart. Harmless comedy match mainly to set up the Mendez angle and make Melina seem like a threat heading into the Rumble match.
Winners: Goldust & Melina (Melina pins Phoenix-Rollup *1/4)

-Todd Grisham is with CM Punk. Punk talks about being stoked for a shot at the IC title. Punk brings up the legacy of the Intercontinental Title and adding himself to that elite list. He brings up Regal defeating him in the King of the Ring finals last Spring and also Regal's cheap shot last week. Punk says tonight he's gonna start the new year off with a bang by becoming the new IC Champ.

WWE Intercontinental Championship: CM Punk vs. William Regal (c) (w. Layla)
Punk opens up with a barrage of kicks getting a one count. Snap suplex gets a two count for Punk. Punk hits with a few knees before sending Regal to the floor. Punk goes for a suicide dive, but Regal uses Layla as a shield. Punk tries to go out after Regal, but gets pulled to the floor allowing Regal to slide inside and take control. Regal pounds Punk down with several forearms and a cover gets a one count. Irish whip into the corner by Regal is followed with a big punch for two. Regal locks in a full nelson, but Punk fights out of that. Regal takes a spin kick to the head which gets two for Punk. Into the corner Punk hits a high knee. A bulldog attempt is blocked, but Regal sets up for the GTS. Regal grabs a hold of referee Mike Chioda to block the move which draws the ultra lame DQ. So that entire tournament was for that? Crowd shits all over it, and rightfully so. Regal is leaving, but Stephanie shows up on the Titantron to inform Regal that he will give Punk a rematch and if Regal is disqualified he loses the title. Well that somewhat redeems it, but this still sucked given the buildup.
Winner: CM Punk (Disqualification-Regal Retains Championship *)

-JBL is talking to Shawn Michaels. He talks about how well this worked out for him. He tells Shawn all he needs to do is superkick Shawn and force Cena to have to forfeit the belt to him. Shawn stands up possibly to protest, but JBL informs him that this isn't about the Rumble. He was hired to get JBL to Wrestlemania 25 as the conquering hero returning to Texas. He tells Shawn that he'll never have to worry about a bill the rest of his life.

-Randy Orton is with Cody Rhodes and Sim Snuka. He tells them they both won last week and completed phase one. Orton tells them if they want to be apart of his group they have to win their match tonight. He says he wont accept failure. That brings in Manu who asks for another chance to prove himself. Manu informs Randy that no one is perfect and even Randy himself last week. Wrong thing to say pal. Orton states he won the main event of Wrestlemania, and Manu has done nothing. He says his father and him are nothing compared to Randy and his father. Orton says half of these people don't even know his name. He says Manu will never be apart of his group, and he never wants to see his face again.

-Dolph Ziggler introduces himself to Mickie in the back as Kofi and Rey walk by.

The Miz & John Morrison vs. Kofi Kingston & Rey Mysterio
Miz and Morrison chastise the crowd for booing them. Morrison states that a city that just became the murder capital of the US shouldn't really be judging them. They apologize for being World Tag Team Champs, 2X Slammy Award Winners, Saving the environment one low flow toilet flush at a time, and being the best tag team of the 21st Century. Contrary to prior reports this match appears to be non-title. On screen graphic announces both Rey and Kofi are in the Royal Rumble. Miz starts with Kofi. Crossbody by Kofi is followed by an armdrag which causes Miz to bail to the floor. Kofi threatens a tope but stops himself on the ropes as we head to break. Back from commercial and Miz has Rey in an armbar. Rey fights out and sends Miz into the corner buckle with a hurracanrana. That allows Rey to make the tag to Kofi. Kofi is in with a chop and a dropkick. He slides to the floor to avoid a shot from Morrison and pulls Morrison down with him. Back inside he looks to go up to the top rope, but Morrison sends him crashing allowing Miz to regain control. After a few shots to the knee Miz tags in Morrison who goes to work on the knee some more. To the floor Morrison continues to work the knee driving it into the ring apron. Tag to Miz who continues with the stomps to the knee and wrenches away at it. Miz moves to a front facelock. Kofi tries to power into the corner to tag, but Miz lets go and sends Rey to the floor. He walks into a backdrop at Kofi which would allow Kofi to tag, but Rey is on the floor. Seconds before Rey can get to him Miz pulls him back to the center and tags in Morrison. Morrison continues the assault stomping away and hitting a knee to the face for two. Kofi hits a hurracanrana from his back and again tries to tag but Morrison is able to stop that and tag in Miz. Kofi is placed on the top rope, but is able to fight Miz off and hit a dropkick off the second rope. That finally allows the hot tag to Rey as Miz tags Morrison. Rey hits a hurracanrana and rolls through a sunset flip with a dropkick to the face getting two. Springboard dropkick is blocked by Morrison into a facebuster for two. That gets two. Rey is able to counter into an armdrag flipping of the top but Miz breaks up the count. Miz looks to powerbomb, but Rey falls the apron. Kofi connects with a crossbody sending both him and Morrison to the floor. Dropkick to Morrison sets up the 619 which connects. It should be noted that this was about the lamest 619 set up ever as Morrison literally had to crawl half way across the ring and set himself up on the second rope. Quick distraction from Miz allows Morrison time to spin kick Rey on the springboard attempt which picks up the victory. Afterward Knox attacks Mysterio again this time clotheslining him on the second rope. A big boot by Knox sends Rey crashing to the floor.
Winners: The Miz & John Morrison (Morrison pins Mysterio-Spin Kick **3/4)

-Cena approaches Shawn Michaels and asks him if he's fighting two guys or three guys tonight. Shawn says he's nobodies puppet. As for what to expect, he asks Cena what does history tell him to expect.

Kelly Kelly vs. Jillian Hall
Jillian greets us with a rousing rendition of "When the Saints Go Marching In." Isn't it time to end this wretched gimmick yet? Kelly takes down Jillian and hits a front face lock. Jillian powers out of that sitting Kelly on the apron. She attacks Kelly on the way back in to take control . Pair of snap mares sets up a kick for two. Kick to the back sets up a modified camel clutch, I guess. Jillian hits a biel with the hair and that gets a two count. Next up Jillian locks in a full nelson. Kelly hits what is called a "great counter" by Michael Cole but really just amounted to her standing up and sitting down while Jillian let go. Kelly hits a tilt-a-whirl hurracanrana and follows up with a crossbody off the top for two. Trio of clotheslines gets a one count for Kelly. Kelly tries a victory roll, but Jillian sort of blocks it and gets a two count. Jillian tries to flip into the corner but is met by Kelly's boot. That puts her down to her knees which allows Kelly to hit a legdrop to the back of the neck while standing on Jillian's back which gets the victory. Afterwards Jillian attacks Kelly, and that brings out Kane. Jillian bails which leaves Kelly alone with Kane. Kane calls her out for protecting Orton and asks her if it feels good getting rejected. He says next week he's gonna go back to doing what feels good to him and that's eviscerating people. Next week Kane will face Randy Orton, and tells her she's free to watch. As for that match it was absolutely wretched. Kelly is improving, but Jillian is hardly the woman to have her in the ring with at this point.
Winner: Kelly Kelly (Pinfall-Legdrop DUD)

Cody Rhodes & Sim Snuka vs. Cryme Tyme
So Cody and Sim have to win to be in Orton's group. JTG starts with Snuka. Snuka goes for a rollup which is blocked. Inside cradle attempt by Snuka gets a two count. JTG comes with a shoulder block getting a two count. Tag to Shad sets up another shoulderblock. Back elbow by Shad is followed by a tag to JTG. JTG is thrown into Snuka. Rhodes has seen enough and tries to break things up but gets a right hand for his trouble. The distraction allows Snuka to take control shortly but he again gets taken down with a dropkick. Live event calendar tells us WWE will be in Des Moines, IA on Sunday. Rumor is yours truly will be there. Cody gets the tag after Snuka hits a kick. Cody sends JT to the apron and with the refs back turned a Snuka cheapshot allow the heels to gain control. Bodyslam by Cody sets up a tag to Snuka who comes off the ropes with a fistdrop for two. Snuka hits a chinlock from there proving he is already learning well from his mentor Randy. JTG fights out of that and hits a headlock take down which takes both men out. Snuka tags in Cody, but JTG makes the hot tag to Shad. Huge backdrop from Shad is followed up by a shot for Sim sending him to the floor. Elbow drop to Cody sets up a cover that is broken up by Snuka. Shad tries a corner charge but posts himself. He is able to make the tag to JTG however who comes in with a sunset flip for two. Cody goes for the DDT after a counter sequence, but instead turns it into what appears to be a yet to be named new finisher, and that picks up the victory and officially gives birth to the Legacy. Fun little match, which is a bit surprising given the players
Winners: Cody Rhodes & Sim Snuka (Cody pins JTG **)

-JBL is leaving Stephanie McMahon's office with a smile on his face.

-Cody & Snuka meet up with Orton in the back. Orton informs Snuka he's out. Snuka doesn't understand because they won. Orton says he doesn't have time to argue, but tells him Cody won. It was a test to see who the weak link was. Orton asks Cody what he thinks and Cody says all he knows as that he won the match.

-Santino and Beth is in Stephanie's office. Santino asks why Rosa is "banded." Stephanie tells him that she is out of control. Beth thanks him, but Santino says its not her fault. No woman can resist him. Beth again thanks Steph and drags Santino out by his hair. That brings Jericho in. Jericho asks Stephanie if JBL was paying her off? Stephanie asks him if he really thinks she needs JBL's money? Jericho informs Steph that when he filed his protest he not only filed it with her, but he filed it with her father. She tells him her father is now out of the picture, but Jericho says he thought so too. But he got a call from Vince's office and in two weeks Vince McMahon will be back on Raw! Stephanie is stunned.

-CM Punk vs. William Regal for the Intercontinental Title is announced for next week

Randy Orton & Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels & John Cena
Cena starts with Jericho. Jericho quickly takes control with a headlock takedown. Cena comes up out of that but is met with a shoulderblock. Leapfrog by Cena and then he takes Jericho down with a headlock takeover of his own. Michaels makes a blind tag as Cena puts Jericho up for the FU. Michaels comes in and looks to deliver Sweet Chin Music but both Jericho and Cena move. Tension mounts as we don't know who it was intended for. Jericho rolls to the floor as JBL comes out for a closer look. That sends us to commercial. Back from break and Orton has Shawn in a headlock. Shawn quickly counters into a suplex. That sets up the hot tag to Cena who hits Orton with shoulderblocks and a protoplex. Five Knuckle Shuffle connects from Cena and that sets up an FU attempt. Orton rakes the eyes to get away and Cena now blinded tries to FU Shawn. Shawn gets out of that and a quick argument allows the heels to attack Cena. Orton tags in Jericho as he stomps away at the head of Cena. Jericho pounds away in the corner as the ref pulls him away. That allows a cheapshot from Orton. Jericho knocks Cena to the floor with a baseball slide. Outside now Jericho rams Cena into the announce table and fires him back inside. Jericho shoots himself inside with a splash to the back of Cena which picks up a two count. Jericho hits the sleeper with the arm in half nelson submission which seems to be the newest hold in every WWE guys arsenal. Cena tries to counter into an FU, but Jericho counters back with a DDT getting two. Tag to Orton sees him continue to pound away at Cena's back. Orton stomp gets a two count. Orton continues to stomp away at the mid section of Cena. Orton chokes Cena out with his boot in the corner before tagging into Jericho. Cena fires back but runs into a sleeper from Jericho. Shawn kind of alligator arms on the tag attempt which prevents Cena from tagging out as he fades. Cena eventually fights his way out of the sleeper but runs into a clothesline from Jericho. Cena is placed on the top turnbuckle as Jericho goes for a superplex. Cena is able to fight that off sending Jericho to the mat. That sets up the top rope legdrop to the back of the head of Jericho. Both men are down looking to tag. Orton makes the tag quickly and is able to prevent Cena from making the hot tag. Orton pounds away some more on Cena , but misses a dropkick with Cena coming off the ropes. Again both men are down looking to tag. Cena is able to tag Shawn who turns and looks to take out Cena, but stops and instead attacks Jericho. Flying forearm is followed up with an inverted atomic drop. A second attempt is countered by Jericho. Lionsault attempt is blocked by Michaels with the knees. Slam to Jericho sets up the top rope elbow, but Jericho gets his knees up and again both men are out. Back up and Michaels walks into a Walls of Jericho attempt. Michaels counters that with a small package with Orton breaks up. Cena is in now but runs into the headlock backbreaker. Orton goes for the RKO but Cena pushes him off into Sweet Chin Music. Another Sweet Chin Music connects to Jericho. A quick stand off between Cena and Michaels before Shawn covers Jericho for the victory. Fantastic Match from four of the best in the company.
Winners: Shawn Michaels & John Cena (Michaels pins Jericho-Sweet Chin Music ***1/2)

-Todd Grisham meets up with JBL. He says his employee was pretty good out there tonight, but we'll see how good he is next week. JBL reveals his meeting with Steph was to set up a Cena-Michaels match for next Monday Night. And just to make sure Shawn's integrity is in tact. JBL will personally be in HBK's corner.

-Thats all for this week, another fantastic Raw as the Road to the Rumble is setting up quite nicely. Everything really clicked this week save for the horrid womens match and the shoddy Punk-Regal ending. Those are minor complaints though. This was a great show.


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no christian= EPIC FAIL

i actually fell asleep during raw for the 2nd straight week


Posted By: jeff (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:22 PM

 
 
He smokes and tokes and doesn't show up.. It was a one shot deal...Vintage RVD...

Posted By: Michael Cole (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:24 PM

 
 
the kelly kelly match wasn't too bad. And the main event was lame, you suck as a reviewer and I hope someone poops on your shower drain.

Posted By: Watch for poop (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:24 PM

 
 
They should make HBK the special ref for Cena vs JBL.

Posted By: Tyler (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:26 PM

 
 
Vintage! vintage! vintage! michael cole please shut the fuck up

Posted By: Guest#8557 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:27 PM

 
 
christian cage

Posted By: marc (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:29 PM

 
 
did cody rhodes just take mike knox finisher...cause i swear it was the same move knox used on mysterio a few weeks back.....but i think it looks better for cody than it does for knox....he needs a big man finisher!

Posted By: Guest#4413 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:31 PM

 
 
Will Joey Styles be in Cena's corner at the rumble?

Posted By: Guest#9002 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:32 PM

 
 
It was a pretty good show. The opening promo was excellent, which is the standard Jericho sets every week with his promos, and Orton was actually not bad either.

Clearly, they must be making room in Legacy for Ted Dibiase's return, and now they can have Priceless feuding with the oh so obvious pairing of Snuka and whatshisname....hmm Orton was right, I can't remember that guy's name.

Too bad Christian wasn't there as rumoured, but I have to imagine we will see him at the Rumble.


Posted By: RawReality (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:37 PM

 
 
Wow we're headed toward yet another McMahon Vs McMahon feud great. Vince last was great as a character in what '00-01? I think HBK has gotten a return on the few jobs he's done for Jericho in '08 no? Michael Cole is as bad as he's ever been. He was somewhat bearable on Smackdown but since returning to Raw(and with Vince in his ear) he is as bad as he was when he started with the company in 97. Hell he might be as bad as an announcer as Vince himself was. Every move is vintage Hbk or vintage Cena. Awful just awful. I hope Snuka and Manu stay out of the Legacy. Neither guy is anything but bland and generic(not that Rhodes and Dibiase aren't)

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:43 PM

 
 
Ahhh Jericho is back to HBK's bitch thank God. Nobody cares about Kane anymore he makes Batista look like a fresh character.

Posted By: Guest#7130 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:44 PM

 
 
Ted Dibiase Jr. will return to take out R. Orton and reform the Legacy with Cody, Manu and Snuka.

BOOK IT!


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:45 PM

 
 
Roll of the dice is the shitty finisher of the 00's. The Legacy sans Orton can't draw heat if they were on fire.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:46 PM

 
 
"He smokes and tokes and doesn't show up.. It was a one shot deal...Vintage RVD..."
Posted By: Michael Cole

He jerks, he sucks, he swallows and doesn't throw up... It was a money shot deal... Vintage Virgin boy...


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:49 PM

 
 
Ted Dibiase Jr. will return to take out R. Orton and reform the Legacy with Cody, Manu and Snuka.

BOOK IT!
Might as well bring back D.O.A, The Truth Commission and Los Boricas that way they can feud with the bland second generation wrestlers to find out who's the worst and most bland faction.


Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:51 PM

 
 
It's funny watching all these WWE fans get all worked up about a TNA wrestler coming to their show.

lol


Posted By: miles (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:53 PM

 
 
Man, Raw was pretty shitty this week yet again. I love how they're promoting Vince's return in two weeks as if that's what's been missing. I just hope the marks don't vindicate him and his ego by watching and causing the rating to go up. I hope in two weeks they think Vince will pop a rating and then it drops like half a point.

If Vince were smart he would do what Hogan used to do in WCW: Return on a week he knew the rating would be higher no matter what and then claim it was him that popped the rating. Last week the rating went up simply because they weren't opposed by NFL Football, but Vince coulda showed up and acted like the ratings went up solely because of him.

Oh, and you guys can calm down now. Christian didn't appear on Raw. He hasn't signed a contract. It wasn't even a one-time deal.


Posted By: JTX (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:54 PM

 
 
I don't care. I DON'T CARE. I watched the Fiesta Bowl instead of this monotonous snooze fest. It was an awesome game, wish Ohio State would have pulled it out to make the Big Ten look the slightest bit competent. Oh well. How was this show, anyway? Any good at all?

Posted By: Troley T. Roll (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:55 PM

 
 
"Might as well bring back D.O.A, The Truth Commission and Los Boricas that way they can feud with the bland second generation wrestlers to find out who's the worst and most bland faction."


Posted By: graves9

Wasn't it DoA, Los Boricuas and Nation of Domination?

Nice try though slapnutz.


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:55 PM

 
 
The controlled frenzy of vintage Cole=worst announcer ever.

How many times has Regal defended the IC title since winning it?

I'm already tired of sad panda Michaels. The only way this angle works is if it leads to a Michaels/Undertaker match at WM with Michaels losing and kicking the hell out of JBL afterward.

So much for the major 'spoiler' of Christian being there. How's this for a spoiler, concession man seen selling Aquafina in the crowd.

Did you know... more people watch RAW each week than repeats of Sex and the City, the local news, an infomerical for erectile disfunction, my cousin Jimmy's free access cable show, and the 3-3:30am repeat of Blind Date combined?

And in case you were wondering, the part of Goldust tonight was played by RVD (rumor has it, it's a one time deal).


Posted By: Vintage RVD (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:57 PM

 
 
CHRISTIAN WAS AT RAW , IDIOTS.

HE WAS THERE TO TALK WITH JEFF HARDY ABOUT THEIR ANGLE TOGETHER SINCE WWE WILL NOT BE TAPING SMACKDOWN TOMMOROW.


Posted By: Guest#6548 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:01 AM

 
 
Heh heh!

I'm going to watch Raw and then post on the 411mania comments sections saying that I hated everything about the show.

This is sure to make me cool and feel accepted by the internet community.


Posted By: Nobody (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:23 AM

 
 
"CHRISTIAN WAS AT RAW , IDIOTS.

HE WAS THERE TO TALK WITH JEFF HARDY ABOUT THEIR ANGLE TOGETHER SINCE WWE WILL NOT BE TAPING SMACKDOWN TOMMOROW."

I wish I could see your face when you turn out to be dead fucking wrong. The person who attacked Jeff Hardy will be MATT Hardy, and Christian is staying in TNA.


Posted By: JTX (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:28 AM

 
 
Wasn't it DoA, Los Boricuas and Nation of Domination?

Nice try though slapnutz.

Posted By: DaTruth (Guest) on January 05, 2009 at 11:55 PM
I was mentioning shitty factions(which the Nation wasn't) dummy. Oh is my face red over the slapnutz comment, it is only ten years ago that Jarrett used that word a million times in a month or so on Nitro.


Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:29 AM

 
 
like Punks always said luck is for losers.

Posted By: Mr. Benoit (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:41 AM

 
 
LOL, some of the comments here were better than the show itself.

Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:01 AM

 
 
Will Joey Styles be in Cena's corner at the rumble?

God I hope so!


Posted By: Guest#7074 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:14 AM

 
 
"He smokes and tokes and doesn't show up.. It was a one shot deal...Vintage RVD..."
Posted By: Michael Cole

He jerks, he sucks, he swallows and doesn't throw up... It was a money shot deal... Vintage Virgin boy...

Posted By: DaTruth (Guest) on January 05, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Wow. Internet Tough Guy. Look out world.


Posted By: lol (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:21 AM

 
 
"Might as well bring back D.O.A, The Truth Commission and Los Boricas that way they can feud with the bland second generation wrestlers to find out who's the worst and most bland faction."


Posted By: graves9

Wasn't it DoA, Los Boricuas and Nation of Domination?

Nice try though slapnutz.
_____________________________________

I hate these 14 year-olds that think they know wrestling... No, he meant what he said - Da Truth is a moron...


Posted By: Brendan Chicago (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:26 AM

 
 
"It's funny watching all these WWE fans get all worked up about a TNA wrestler coming to their show.

lol

Posted By: miles"

I sure hope you're not referring to Christian. The guy is a WWE wrestler who took a brief vacation in TNA, and the fans are excited about the prospect of him returning home. Get used to it, and expect to see the same with Angle in the months to come.


Posted By: Cortez (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:39 AM

 
 
It's funny watching all these WWE fans get all worked up about a TNA wrestler coming to their show.lol Posted By: miles (Guest)  on January 05, 2009 at 11:53 PM

He was made in WWE.


Posted By: propagandhi (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:43 AM

 
 
Yo, stop being so hard on the Kelly Kelly match. It wasn't that bad.

Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:45 AM

 
 
Will Joey Styles be in Cena's corner at the rumble?

In the running for best comment in January, along with the Chris "I Can Haz Cheezburger?" Harris one from the other thread. Well done.


Posted By: Guest#2564 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:51 AM

 
 
I wish I could see your face when you turn out to be dead fucking wrong. The person who attacked Jeff Hardy will be MATT Hardy, and Christian is staying in TNA.

Posted By: JTX (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 12:28 AM

Fine, so long as we get to see your face if it is Christian. Fair is fair.


Posted By: Guest#0754 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:52 AM

 
 
Wait ?

With 75 per cent of the wellness policy violation being Marijuana.....

Was RVD's suspension a one night deal or will he resign for real ?


Posted By: EpicWinForRVD (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 02:16 AM

 
 
I like the fact that the other heels are commenting on Michaels situation, adds a little realism to it and makes it seem like this angle is not in a bubble all itself ya know? I enjoyed the Goldust/Melina Santino/Beth match, it's good to have Goldust back. He is a solid hand as that character, a veteran that can be used to make others look good. Quite frankly Santino can use that, I was waiting for Howard Finkel to come out and pin him. CM Punk/Regal was ok, nothing like the match they COULD put on if Vince would loosen the reigns(not Luther) a bit. Miz/Morrison match was not so great, everyone except Kingston looked a little off, and yeah Morrisons setup of the 619 looked pretty bad, but then again, as of late everything Rey has done has looked pretty contrived. I actually enjoyed the Kelly Kelly Kelly/ Jillian match. Only question remains is, how long before Jillians butt completely disappears, I swear, sometimes she has that disease called noassatall. Which looks strange when she has been so over blown up on top. Speaking of which Stephanie had the testicular fortitude to be shown full body and ya know, she looked good, good on ya Steph, milftastic! Cryme Tyme match was boring, they are terrible in long matches, Cody looked decent though. Still would rather watch Snuka over Manu but after this week, it's not by much. The main event was typical Raw main event style, not bad, but not great, nothing really stood out. Cena looked especially bad out there though with some of his selling and reactions. Good show, but nothing all that memorable.

Posted By: piperfan01 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 02:37 AM

 
 
It sucks that HBK is out of the Rumble, so no third KBK/Taker showdown this year.

I am going to be sickened if they have HBK/JBL at Wrestlemania instead of HBK/Taker, sickened I say.


Posted By: Mr Quimby's Beard (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:03 AM

 
 
I hope that the kid who wrote that damn original comment about RVD in 2007 dies by having every one of his body hairs yanked out of his body.

Posted By: Steve307 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:04 AM

 
 
The reason Jillian Hall will have a job in the WWE for as long as she wants: She actually works the CROWD instead of just the tv camera. None of the other Divas do that and only a handful of the men do it. that is a true professional wrestler, no matter how limited her in-ring "skills" are.

Anybody who doesn't understand that has no fucking clue what pro wrestling is about.


Posted By: David Burcham (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:44 AM

 
 
Kelly Kelly is the Divas' answer to Iron Mike Sharpe.

"RRRAAARRRGGGHHH!!!"


Posted By: David Burcham (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:47 AM

 
 
Sounds like a good show, love coming on here for people bitching over stupid things.

Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 04:13 AM

 
 
Mixed bag. The main event angle was good as was the match itself, Miz and Morrison bring the awesome as usual and the mixed tag filled it's purpose. On the other hand the women's match sucked, the IC title non-match was laaame and again, no-one cares about the Legacy. The WWE can consier it a filaed experiment because it isn't working. If pairing Snuka Jr, Manu and Rhodes with Raw's top heel doesn't get them heat, nothing will.

Those who say the skipped the show or don't care? Why the fuck did you comment then?

And Nobody? It's called opinion. Unless you live in some craphole of a country, you're free to express it.


Posted By: ravenite (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 07:05 AM

 
 
What the hell is with this Legacy angle? Each week Orton loses, yet kicks out his proteges due to their "losses"? So is this Legacy group going to be Orton and Cody alone? Is Dibiase going to rejoin them? What about DH Smith? Or is this all just a trick so they can jump Kane next week and all take him out?

Either way, boring and confusing.


Posted By: Guest#8229 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 07:42 AM

 
 
Now I know how Darth Mortis feels..

Nobody wants a Matt and Jeff feud.


Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 08:20 AM

 
 
"I was mentioning shitty factions(which the Nation wasn't) dummy. Oh is my face red over the slapnutz comment, it is only ten years ago that Jarrett used that word a million times in a month or so on Nitro.

Posted By: graves9"

Blanket statements and copouts at its finest!!!


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:24 AM

 
 
"Wow. Internet Tough Guy. Look out world.

Posted By: lol"

*flexes and kisses the guns*

You seem to be stalking my posts as of late, I guess I hit a nerve.

HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED!


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:27 AM

 
 
vintage....Repo MAN
vintage....Dolph ZIGGLER


Posted By: Devenchi (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:28 AM

 
 
"I hate these 14 year-olds that think they know wrestling... No, he meant what he said - Da Truth is a moron..."

Posted By: Brendan Chicago

Hugnutz much?

Sticking up for others, how cute and manly of you...


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:29 AM

 
 
I made a new years resolution to stop posting comments on 411 because it was a waste of my time and creative genius. That said, I hope RVD comes back and saves us all from these IWC idiots. And then I hope you all burn in hell, bitches!

Posted By: Luthor (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:30 AM

 
 
"What the hell is with this Legacy angle? Each week Orton loses, yet kicks out his proteges due to their "losses"? So is this Legacy group going to be Orton and Cody alone? Is Dibiase going to rejoin them?"

Scroll up a bit bud, DaTruthstadamus laid out his concrete prediction above.


Posted By: DaTruth (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:30 AM

 
 
WWE's been boring since after Backlash. I haven't seen a complete episode of RAW since the King of the Ring (which sucked). But I must say with my pure hatred for HHH aside (HE'S WORSE THAN CENA SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT CENA) SD! has been decent lately.

Posted By: Klossing (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:49 AM

 
 
I actually dug the ending of Regal vs Punk. Old schooling booking right there the hell gets his ass kicked then saves himself by getting d.q.ed. Actually believe it or not they're booking C.M. Punk much better now then they have been.

Posted By: Paul (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 09:50 AM

 
 
Layla was looking fine as usual.

Posted By: Bad guy (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:02 AM

 
 
Same old same. People coming on here and whining and crying like a bunch of fucking babies over every little thing on Raw and trashing those who actually enjoyed the show.

I thought Raw was a decent show last night. I didn't agree with the finish of the IC Title match but are going to make up for it in the rematch next week.

Yes there was some stupid stuff last night but in my opinion, I thought they were stupid in an amusing way and not stupid in a "I'm gonna whine and cry about it for the next 5 years" way.


Posted By: Rob Z (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:15 AM

 
 
i had a HARD time watching the Kelly Kelly match if ya know what i mean...
and back to the Angle comment I don't know if hes commin back to WWE anytime soon due to him leavin on quite the sour note.. he has a bad neck, bad knee, and a bad attitude with the wellness policy..


Posted By: bobo (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:21 AM

 
 
ted dibiase comin back next month

Posted By: america sucks (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:49 AM

 
 
I am going to be sickened if they have HBK/JBL at Wrestlemania instead of HBK/Taker, sickened I say.

I have to disagree. I think they'll save HBK/Taker for Taker's retirement match. The look on Taker's face when Shawn says "I'm sorry, I love you" just before Sweet Chin Music will be priceless.


Posted By: Common Sense (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:49 AM

 
 
"Vintage! vintage! vintage! michael cole please shut the fuck up"

I am absolutely with you. He is just awful to listen to, and goes way too far with the VINTAGE comments. He even said "vintage goldust" in his match with santino. Was there even one match where he hasn't used that word?? C'mon man, this is getting ridiculous.


Posted By: jim (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 11:09 AM

 
 
anyone happen to count how many times Cole said "vintage" by any chance?
seemed like ALOT.


Posted By: Thomas (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 11:18 AM

 
 
"Fine, so long as we get to see your face if it is Christian. Fair is fair.

Posted By: Guest#0754 (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 01:52 AM"

You're right. Fair is fair. If I'm wrong I'll own it.

I just think if you consider TNA's recent penchant for trying to swerve the 'Net in regards to wrestlers' contract status combined with my belief that TNA has big plans with Christian and assuming Christian wouldn't be too thrilled with going back to WWE to be Edge's cronie again with almost no chance of being a Main Eventer there that Christian knows he's better off in TNA.

But if I'm wrong I'll admit it and eat some humble pie.


Posted By: JTX (Registered)  on January 06, 2009 at 11:34 AM

 
 
The roll of the dice and the flatliner are tied for shitty overused finisher of the last 10 years or so

Posted By: Guest#0886 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:26 PM

 
 
And in about five minutes worth of promo time, the storyline between Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho came full circle. In Jericho's mind, Michaels has been proven to be everything he's said he was from the beginning, and he is vindicated - and more hated than ever as a result. Michaels sells his end of it with facial expression alone. Fucking spectacular.

The IC title match was the biggest bit of bullshit I've seen in a while, though. I know WWE loves to build big matches and then have them go three minutes with a crap finish, and I was half expecting this to be no exception, but the circumstances were even more infuriating. And just when you think Stephanie McMahon is going to restart the match, they go to commercial and the rematch is scheduled for next week. To what end? They'd been building the matchup for a month. Did they really need another week? Terrible.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 12:30 PM

 
 
im actually liking the legacy storyline. i see dibiase coming back and teaming with sim snuka and manu in feuding against cody rhodes and randy orton.

if thats how it works out, color me interested


Posted By: robb (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:02 PM

 
 
Dear Michael Cole,

Walk up to the person who tells you to say "vintage" and, without saying a word, punch them square in the mouth. First, we had to endure "vintage Undertaker". After that, you said "vintage Shawn Michaels". Now, last night, it was "vintage Cena". Stop saying vintage. Vintage refers to wine, or, if you watch racing, vintage refers to cars from the 60s and 70s that are made into race cars. A '71 Corvette races in the Vintage racer category. A '67 Mustang is also in the Vintage racer category. Try saying something like "Oh my! He just came CRAASSHING down" like Vinnie Mac used to say. Vintage Undertaker. Vintage Shawn Michaels. Vintage John Cena. Vintage, vintage, vintage. It's not vintage. Cena has been in the WWE less than ten years. He doesn't do anything vintage. Vintage isn't even the correct word. Just stop saying it.

Sincerely,

Your friend,

Chico


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:21 PM

 
 
Dear Chico,

Please stop doing this for all your comments. It's tacky and annoying.

Sincerely,

Your Friend,

Rob


Posted By: Rob (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:56 PM

 
 
I predict Snuka and Manu help Kane take out Orton next week. Then Kane, Manu, and Snuka form the new DX with RVD being the shocking 4th member. We've got two words for ya! "Book it!"

Posted By: Guest#4651 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 01:59 PM

 
 
Highlight of the Night Kelly's attempt to beat Erik Watts in throwing the lowest ever drop kick.

Posted By: Byron (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 02:41 PM

 
 
terrible raw i am very disappointed normally i laugh at the comedy but the only laugh i had was how bad raw was

Posted By: AJ (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:05 PM

 
 
well that was a a snoozefest if ever there was one

Posted By: tna isnt much beta (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:06 PM

 
 
the matches were all pointless only solace i have is that next week promises to be more enjoyable

Posted By: avid raw fan (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:07 PM

 
 
come on randy orton you call this a legacy?? recruit new members immmediately and start using the potential to re ignite the age of orton

Posted By: legacy (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:08 PM

 
 
randy orton and chris jericho make a formidable duo and seeing as they are not currently in the title picture they should join forces and rule raw

Posted By: y2rko (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:09 PM

 
 
chris jericho has a new haircut and with a new goatee he looks as heel as ever

Posted By: y2j (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:10 PM

 
 
does anyone think that manu, sim snuka should join forces seeing as they are legacy rejects and maybe even recruit other 2nd gen superstars who feel they are being underutilised ie.carlito, dh smith an of course ted dibiase jr. and attempt to overhaul randy orton and his legacy

Posted By: legacy no.2 (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:12 PM

 
 
tonites raw sucked

Raas man! Me didnt know dat Jam


Posted By: kofi fan (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:13 PM

 
 
No Kane?

Posted By: mwe (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 03:24 PM

 
 
Dear Rob,

If you don't like it, don't read it. You don't have to come to this site at all. If you become the editor for this site, you can choose not to post my comments. Until then, too bad.

Sincerely,

Your IWC homie,

Chico


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 04:13 PM

 
 
Dear Chico,

The votes have been counted and it's official.........

Writing letters to people on 411 comment sections and then coming back 3 hours later to see if anyone has wrote back to you is FUCKING GAY!!!!

Please kill yourself at your local Econo Lodge.

Thank you for taking up space,

-God-


Posted By: God (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 05:23 PM

 
 
Wasn't it DoA, Los Boricuas and Nation of Domination?

Nice try though slapnutz.
_____________________________________

I hate these 14 year-olds that think they know wrestling... No, he meant what he said - Da Truth is a moron...

Posted By: Brendan Chicago (Guest) on January 06, 2009 at 01:26 AM
-------------------------------------

Hey Jackass-the 14 year old just schooled your ass! The truth commission was led by Jackyl and had Recon and Kurrgan. So yes there was the nation-but the kid was right on with the Truth Commission. I hate these 20 somethings who think they know something about wrestling. DUMBASS!!!!!!


Posted By: Bryan (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 07:17 PM

 
 
I gave my fat clothes to Steph!

Posted By: FUZEY (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 07:46 PM

 
 
Orton's little shoot on Manure was exactly why WWE should can his fat ass.
Who is Afa in the scheme of things? A nobody.


Posted By: FUZEY (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 07:54 PM

 
 
Legacy as a tag team sucks.

Randy doesn't need to be stuck in the tag ranks,

Cody as a constant buddy will only make him into Randy's man-bitch and he won't get over.

And Cody has no more need for the tag team titles.

The legacy needs to be a stable. a duo can't cut it!


Posted By: Freakzilla (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 08:33 PM

 
 
Orton's little shoot on Manure was exactly why WWE should can his fat ass.
Who is Afa in the scheme of things? A nobody.
-----------------------------------------

Wow let me guess.....you were born in the 90's


Posted By: AmIThatOld (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:32 PM

 
 
Actually I've been watching wrestling since the early 1980's....
DVD's, magazines, whatever, I've seen all the greats come and go and Afa is not that huge a performer in the scheme of things.


Posted By: FUZEY (Guest)  on January 06, 2009 at 10:50 PM

 
 
Dear Manu,

Um, you show promise and I hope Randy's "shoot" (worked shoot) on you was only part of an angle and not actually designed to bury you. Maybe you and Sim Snuka will form your own 2nd generation stable to appose Orton's. If so, then it's all good. Also, there is such thing as Hydroxy Cut, barbers, and tanning salons. I'm no Brad Pitt myself, but I'm just sayin'. Know what I'm sayin'?

Chico


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on January 07, 2009 at 08:12 PM

 
 
Will Joey Styles be in Cena's corner at the rumble?

=========

lol

VINTage humor FTW !!!!!!!


Posted By: An Adamle Original (Guest)  on January 08, 2009 at 09:53 AM

 
 
Whooooooooo .....all I have to say about Shawn being in JBL's corner at the Rumble ~ I'll be in Cena's so its all whoooooooooooooooooo good !!

Posted By: Ric Flair (Registered)  on January 08, 2009 at 12:43 PM

 
 
the Nature Boy is gonna be in town and doing his own kinda rumbling whooooooooooooooooooo ~ ya feel me Shawn, whoooooooooooooooo !!

Posted By: Ric Flair (Registered)  on January 08, 2009 at 12:44 PM

 
 
Dear Rob

(1) First of all,...um, okay, nevermind.


Chico


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on January 08, 2009 at 03:58 PM

 
 
Damn! I knew Orton was sexist, what with him taking a shit in women's purses and all. I had no idea he was racist too. And Cody Rhodes didn't help matters either, what with him throwing BOTH Manu AND Sim Snuka under the bus backstage. When are the island boys gonna get their piece of the pie, dammit?

Posted By: Unsung Hero (Guest)  on January 08, 2009 at 05:39 PM

 
 
Cody Rhodes just looks too young and childlike in the face. He should leave and form a new faction with Goldust. Cody could start wearing paint and Goldust could tweak his look. Maybe add Manu and you got a great three man group to battle Orton, Snuka, and somebody else. Funny how these guys big gimmick is their parents. Notice how Rey Mysterio doesn't need to rely on this gimmick crap? He's got real skill.

Posted By: Adam (Guest)  on January 09, 2009 at 08:33 AM

 




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