411's WWE Raw Report 01.26.09
Posted by Rob McNew on 01.26.2009
Shane-O-Mac is back, and he's here to take out The Legend Killer.
So last week the show ended with one of the better cliffhangers in recent history. Since then the perpetrator of the attack on Mr. McMahon went on to win The Royal Rumble match and guarantee him a main event slot at Wrestlemania. Thus making him unfireable one would think. Shawn Michaels failed to help JBL wrestle the World Title from John Cena also. Needless to say we've got a lot of loose ends to tie up tonight. Not the least of which includes finding five challengers for John Cena in the Elimination Chamber in just three weeks at No Way Out. This is certainly one of the most intriguing Raw's in recent memory.
-Live from the Wolstein Center in Cleveland, OH
-Hosted by Michael Cole & Jerry "The King" Lawler
-The same video package that played to open the Rumble opens tonight's show. Words can't describe how truly epic this package is. Interspersing the footage of the main event promo with Orton's theme. This was absolutely beautifully done.
-No intro, we go straight to the ring where Lillian introduces the 2009 Royal Rumble winner Randy Orton. The Legacy accompanies Randy to the ring along with three men in suits who are presumably Randy's legal team. Orton helps the three people in the crowd who don't know who he is by introducing himself. He introduces the three men as being his lawyers and his therapist. Orton goes over his history by saying he is third generation and the WWE is in his blood. Randy says in addition to the WWE being a part of him something else is a part of him. Orton says he suffers from IED. Intermittent Explosive Disorder. Orton reads a prepared statement saying that it effects 16 million Americans. When a person is provoked they suffer outbursts of physical violence. Orton states that after being slapped by Stephanie and having termination threatened he had become sufficiently provoked. Orton states he was not responsible for his actions. Orton states his therapist will confirm that the WWE knew of condition and did nothing about it. Therefore if Stephanie tries to fire him, he will sue WWE. He states there would also be a second lawsuit. Since he won the Royal Rumble he will sue for breach of contract if he is not allowed to compete in the main event at Wrestlemania. He also says Dibiase and Rhodes will walk if he is fired. Orton says with the three of them gone there will be no superstars left. Orton states he has one more piece of business to attend to. Another prepared statement is given to him by his attorney. This one states that he apologizes for the trauma that befell Mr. McMahon. He also apologizes for the trauma that the family is suffering. Orton hopes that they can put this ugly incident behind them and move forward. Orton successfully turns the crowd against him with this statement which is quite the feat for a guy that is getting massive face pops at this point. Orton says he is a man of honor and offers sincerest apologies to Mr. McMahon, his family, and to the fans. Orton thanks the fans. Brilliantly played by Orton all around doing the whole thing with a smug look on his face to convey that he really doesn't mean any of it. This guy on a roll like we haven't seen anyone on in many years. He really has put it all together. Phenomenal job all around.
-We see Stephanie watching from her office with an evil glare. She says nothing.
World Tag Team Championship: Cryme Tyme vs. John Morrison & The Miz (c)
Well we're starting out with a bang as the straps are on the line right off the bat. JTG and Miz start off. JTG hits a face plant quickly out of the corner for two. JTG charges to the corner, but gets backdropped onto the apron. Morrison provides the distraction allowing Miz to hit a drop toehold on the outside. Two count results and Morrison is tagged in. Morrison stomps away in the corner and mounts with some forearms. Cover gets two as Morrison grabs a chinlock. JTG counters a suplex and is able to scoot over to tag in Shad. Shad knocks Miz off the apron and biels Morrison out of the corner. Powerslam coming out of the corner for Shad gets a two count. Morrison is able to regain control with a fist and goes for a Moonlight Drive and Shad goes for the STO. It connects and Miz breaks up the count. Miz is on the apron but gets booted off by Shad. Morrison connects from behind with a kick and this time the Moonlight Drive connects and Miz and Morrison retain with that. Winners: STILL World Tag Team Champions: John Morrison & The Miz (Morrison pins Shad-Moonlight Drive **)
-Lawler introduces a video package for The Elimination Chamber at No Way Out. Another great video package showing highlights from the past Chamber matches. This year both World Titles will be defended in the Elimination Chamber at No Way Out.
-JBL is out to announce a special qualifying match for the Elimination Chamber. His employee Shawn Michaels will compete on his behalf. If Shawn wins JBL is in the Chamber. Shawn's opponent will be the man he defeated two weeks ago, John Cena. A qualifying match with the guy who is already in the match defending the belt? That doesn't make much sense, but hey its Cena-Shawn again so I can't complain.
Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match: Kofi Kingston vs. Kane
I'm not sure I like Kofi's chances in this one. Kofi starts with the kicks but is caught on a crossbody attempt and slammed. Dropkick to a seated Kofi allows Kane to take control. Kane pounds away in the corner and drives Kofi into the buckle. A whip to the corner is followed up with a clothesline getting a two count. Kane whips to the corner again, but a charge this time is unsuccessful as Kofi moves. Kofi turns around and runs right into a boot though. Kane comes off the top with a flying clothesline. Kane calls for the chokeslam but Kofi fights it off with a spinning kick. Kane goes for another chokeslam, but Kofi reverses into a sunset flip which picks up the win!?!?! Well I'll be damned. Should be fun to see what Kofi can do in the chamber. Winner: Kofi Kingston (Pinfall-Sunset Flip *3/4)
-Recap of the punt heard 'round the world is shown AGAIN. It was an awesome moment, but its getting to be overkill at this point.
-Chris Jericho is out to state that everyone is raving about the film The Wrestler starring Mickey Rourke. A video package on the movie is shown. Same one from Smackdown. Jericho states one of the people who gave the film a glowing review is Ric Flair. Jericho says even though Flair is retired he has to stay in the spotlight, and him and Rourke have become friends. He says Flair may have given him some bad advice. Jericho brings up the footage of Mickey Rourke last night saying Jericho better get in shape. Jericho says Rourke is out of line. Its one thing to play a wrestler in a movie and its another to be one in real life. He says the last thing Rourke or Flair would want to do is offend Jericho. Oh dear god...they're really gonna do Rourke vs. Jericho at Wrestlemania aren't they?
-JBL is with Shawn in the locker room. Shawn asks if he really has to go through with this stating he did everything he could last night. JBL says superkicking him was part of his plan? Brilliant. Shawn says he had to get Cena to lower his guard. Shawn says he put JBL on top, and got another referee. He states he did everything humanly possible, he assumed that would be enough. JBL says he assumed someone was watching his money and thats why he's working for him. JBL says he would fire him right now, but there's still business to be done. JBL says there's business to be taken care of. JBL says this is Shawn's last chance.
Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match: Shawn Michaels (w. JBL) vs. John Cena
Not sure how this works if Cena wins since he's in the match regardless. They took my advice (well I'd like to at least think they did) by having Shawn come out to JBL's music. Decidedly pro Cena crowd tonight. No handshake this time as they trade blows in the middle. Shawn gets the better of it and delivers a few chops. Cena goes for a bulldog but its countered by Shawn. Shawn smacks Cena in the face which is answered by a right hand. Cena goes for the move formerly known as the FU, but Shawn bails to the floor. That sends us to commercial. Back from break and Shawn kicks out of a pin attempt. Shawn locks in a figure four which Cena quickly turns over. Belly to belly by Cena gets a two count. Cena grabs a side headlock. To their feet and Shawn fights out of the hold. Shawn hits the ropes and runs into a backdrop from Cena. Irish whip to the corner by Cena puts down Shawn again. Another backdrop attempt by Cena is blocked by a kick from Shawn. Shawn hits the ropes and comes off with a flying forearm. Inverted atomic drop is followed up by a pair of bodyslams from Shawn. Shawn goes to the outside to go for the elbow, but Cena is back up. Back inside Cena goes for the STF, but Shawn counters out. Pair of shoulderblocks and a protoplex from Cena sets up the five knuckle shuffle. Awesome counter by Shawn as Cena waving the hand in Shawn's face finally backfires as Cena grabs the hand and turns it into a crossface. Cena starts to fade but a second wind allows him tou counter into an FU attempt. Shawn is able to block by reaching the ropes. Shawn charges but runs into a drop toe hold into the STF. Shawn claws towards the ropes and reaches them to break the hold. Back to their feet Cena sets up for an FU attempt, but Shawn counters into a sunset flip for two. Shawn chops Cena and sends him to the buckle. That is followed by another chop from Shawn. Shawn gets whipped to the corner, but comes back out with a clothesline as both men are down. Shawn is to his feet first and gets a bodyslam on Cena. Shawn goes to the outside, but JBL comes over to yell at him. JBL asks Shawn to superkick him, but Shawn says he'll do it his way. JBL climbs onto the apron to stop Shawn from going to the top. That backfires as Cena pushes JBL into Shawn knocking him off the top rope. From there Cena hits the FU to pick up the victory. JBL will not be in the elimination chamber. Another fantastic effort from these two. Not on the level of the match in Sioux City, but still fantastic and the series is tied at two. I'll be damned if I don't want a rubber match. Screwy ending aside, this was fantastic. After the match JBL stands over the fallen Shawn looking down in disgust. Winner: John Cena (Pinfall-FU ***1/2)
-Yet another recap of the punt is shown, followed by a recap of the opening promo. Okay, seriously, we get it. He kicked Vince.
-Todd Grisham is with Stephanie McMahon. Stephanie says there will be action, but she will do it publicly and to Randy's face.
Melina & Kelly Kelly vs. Beth Phoenix & Jillian Hall (w. Santino Marella)
Santino joins the commentary team, and immediately brings the awesome by telling Cole "you look fantastic, have you been working out? I almost didn't recognize you JR." Beth and Melina start and Beth powers Melina into the corner but runs into a double boot. Off the second rope comes Melina with a seated splash. Beth whips Melina into the corner, but misses a charge. Beth elbows her off and tags in Jillian. Melina grabs control and tags in Kelly who comes in with a sunset flip getting two. Jillian grabs a wrist lock, but Kelly hits a nice springboard takeover counter. Kelly gets whipped into the corner but goes to the apron. A distraction from Beth allows Jillian to shoulder her to the floor. Jillian throws Kelly back in and tags in Beth. Kelly gets her face driven into the mat, but moves out of the way of an elbow. Kelly tries to fight to the corner for the tag, but Jillian provides a distraction. The ref distraction allows Rosa Mendez to run out and slam Melina off the apron. From there Beth hits the Glam Slam which picks up the win. Beth doesn't look too pleased at that turn of events, but seems happy to take the victory. Winner: Beth Phoenix & Jillian Hall (Phoenix pins Kelly-Glam Slam *3/4)
-Wrestlemania Rewind is a recap of Wrestlemania 21. We get a little bit of everything including some of the movie trailers. The rewind focuses on the first Money in the Bank match.
Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match: Rey Mysterio vs. William Regal (w. Layla)
Well this is certainly a clash of styles. Rey grabs a sideheadlock, but gets thrown to the corner. Regal runs into a kick, and then Mysterio comes off the top with a springboard seated splash. Mysterio tries for a hurracanrana, but Regal counters it into a face plant. Regal takes control pounding away in the corner and European upper cut gets a two count. Half nelson crossface is locked in by Regal. Rey punches loose, and hits a kick to the face. Off the ropes Regal counters into a face plant and a series of near fall attempts. A knee to the face gets another two count for Regal. In the corner Regal pounds away with the forearm, and then whips Rey into the buckle. Coming out of the corner another forearm connects picking up two. Rey fires back with some kicks, but runs into a knee to the gut from Regal. Regal tries for a butterfly suplex, but that is countered by Rey into an armdrag. Kick to the head connects by Rey, but Regal quickly hits a throw getting two. Rey again fires back with a monkeyflip into the ropes which sets up a 619. Springboard splash finishes from there as Regal continues his slow slip towards irrelevance and Rey moves on to the chamber. So far we have Cena vs. Rey vs. Kofi. They're not even going for the illusion that Cena might lose are they? Winner: Rey Mysterio (Pinfall-Springboard Splash **)
-Rosa and Santino are in the back. Rosa says she hopes she did the right thing. She says she had to do something because the way the title was stolen from Beth she had to take a stand for women everywhere. Beth shows up, and stares her down before looking at Santino and saying "we can keep her." Santino and Rosa celebrate. Phenomenal.
-World Premier of the Trailer for "12 Rounds" Starring John Cena. The Marine is back, and this time he's a cop! The villian says "What can I say, I just like to play the game." Sounds to me like they cast the wrong superstar.
Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match: CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho
First we get HBK-Cena, and now Jericho-Punk? Color me pleased. Gutwrench suplex gets a one count for Punk right away. He fires Jericho into the buckle. Punk is whipped into the corner, but Jericho runs into a boot. Punk goes to the second rope, but Jericho takes his legs out from underneath him to take control. Jericho delivers a few kicks and locks in a half nelson crossface. Punk comes up and sends Jericho into the ropes hitting a spin kick. Into the corner Punk hits the high knee and follows with a bulldog. Springboard to the top sees Punk hit Jericho with a flying clothesline for two. Punk sets Jericho up on the top rope and hit a top rope hurracanrana for two. Punk calls for the GTS, but Jericho counters out into a sunset flip. They trade a series of near falls all getting two. Jericho goes for the Walls, but Punk counters out. Jacknife cover by Punk gets two. Jericho goes for a backslide which is blocked by Punk. Jericho quickly hits the codebreaker out of that to pick up the win. Well that was underwhelming. While they were going it was awesome, but they just didn't have enough time to do anything substantial. Winner: Chris Jericho (Pinfall-Codebreaker **)
-Say did you know Orton punted Vince last week? Well if you didn't see it they showed it again for roughly the 712th time tonight.
-Stephanie McMahon is out for the Main Event promo. Stephanie says if Orton thinks because he won the Rumble he's off the hook, because he threatened her with lawsuits, and because he offered a half hearted apology then he thinks wrong. She calls Orton to the ring to find out what she thinks. Stephanie sells this impeccably well as she is delivering the best performances of her career the past few weeks. Orton is out with his attorneys and The Legacy. Orton tells her that before she says another word she needs to ask herself another question. He asks if she wants to go through with this. He says if she fires him she'll be subjecting herself to a nightmare. He goes over what he said earlier. That Legacy will leave and the stars of Raw will be crippled. Orton's attorney states again that the company ignored Orton's mental condition, and that unlike the employee she humiliated last week his client is not going to get down on his knees and apologize. He says if she fires him there will be extreme consequences. Steph quickly backs him down by asking if thats a threat. Steph with her voice cracking says Orton kicked her father in the head and has the nerve to come out and threaten her and this company? Orton says it is a threat. He says he has a legal right to compete at Wrestlemania. Orton says he will file an injunction so that there will be no Wrestlemania. He says that's not a threat, that's a promise. That brings out the entire locker room to the stage. Orton asks them what they're looking at? He says he doesn't care if they have a Wrestlemania. He says if he's fired he'll take each and every one of them down with him. Orton begs Stephanie to fire him. Orton says he'll cancel Wrestlemania. Orton gets on his knees begging with Steph to please fire him so he can shut down Wrestlemania and ruin "these ingrates" in reference to the guys on the stage. He says he wants to hear the words her father was going to say before he kicked him in the skull. Stephanie says firing him would be too easy, but they have bigger plans. HERE COMES THE MONEY!!!! Shane McMahon is out and he is pissed! Shane walks to the ring and rolls up his shirt sleeves. A staredown commences, and Shane spears Orton. Legacy tries to pull Shane loose, but he breaks through again. Finally the Legacy take control for a moment, but again Shane fights them off. Shane knocks Orton down with a series of punches. Cody is able to fight off Shane long enough to let Dibiase take Orton out, but that only lasts a moment as Shane catches up to them on the ramp. Again Shane is on Orton. The Legacy try to pull him off, but this time the other superstars put a stop to it. Orton is finally able to escape to the locker room. Shane is calling for Randy on the top of the ramp as the show fades out.
-Wow, another fantastic final segment. I honestly thought that Shane might join up with them there, but they went the traditional route which at this point is more of a swerve than the swerve itself. As for the rest of the show it was just kinda there, as the only thing they're really building right now is McMahon's vs. Orton. We're kind of in a holding pattern in the period between now and No Way Out as everything is building towards Wrestlemania. Still another solid effort from Cena and Michaels and Orton's continues meteoric rise to superstardom make this show an easy thumbs up.
Posted By: Guest#6702 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:16 PM
How was that a fantastic final segment??? Shane McMahon just beat up Orton & the Legacy by himself. That was hot garbage.
Posted By: ODog (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:16 PM
did shane re-sign?
Posted By: RVD (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:17 PM
How does being Shane McMahon's bitch continue Orton's meteoric rise to superstardom?
Posted By: Guest#1658 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:18 PM
When did Shane McMahon become Stone Cold?
Posted By: Dom (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:19 PM
I thought they were going to shake hands and were in cahoots. Kind of surprising. Anyone else shocked by Kofi picking up the win? I know I am.
If RKO didn't win the Rumble, I said he was going to have a match with Shane. Well, he won. But he may have a program with Shane still.
Posted By: Booker T (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:19 PM
1. jericho is boring as hell and hasn't been interesting since he was stephanie's lapdog in that sham of a title reign. i honestly hate his act and his stupid tights and wish he would get off my tv.
2. why does everyone like cm punk so much?
3. shane mcmahon can beat up the entire roster by himself? holy hell, i thought triple h was good at burying guys...i guess it's all in the family
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Mcmahons on my TV = click...
Posted By: FUZEY (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Why didn't Orton just kick Shane's face in?
Posted By: Alex (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:21 PM
You thought that ending was fantastic. ugh. I have seen Divas throw better punches than Shane did. I can't wait to see Shane save a family member, again. And why should anyone feel sorry for Vince anyway? Oh well, maybe they are smart, because I want to see Orton kick the crap out of the whole family.
Posted By: guest (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Parts of the show were very entertaining, and parts were just blah. Call me a geeky little idiot, but I am really hoping for Michaels-Taker.
Also, I would've liked to see SOME interaction between Cena and Orton, just to prep for Mania, No Way Out, etc. Still, every time HBK and Cena have a match, it's something special.
And my dawg Shane-O is back! Woohoo! ty ass punches, but still class!
It was an aight show that ended on an electrifying note. I know people are comparing Orton to Austin and some are clamoring for Cena to be a corporate-esque champion, which sounds awesome, but I dunno. Time will tell...
Posted By: The Nitin (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:22 PM
so is shane back or is it a one-shot deal?
Posted By: Evan (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:22 PM
I can't believe RVD won the title tonight.
Posted By: Rob Van Dam (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Awful show when you consider the huge momentum they had after the last week. In July it would have been a decent RAW, but not now.
Orton and Legacy were made to look way too weak. The whole IED storyline was just stupid and lazy writing, and the rest of the show lacked any real storyline development.
It'll get good ratings as people wanted to see the aftermath of last week and the Rumble, but next week's show will be back down to a 3.2.
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Orton can win the rumble but can't hold his own against Shane? WTF is that all about?
Posted By: Jake (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Randy Orton is the biggest badass ever. I got really close to just marking like a bitch for "FIRE ME! FIRE ME! I'M BEGGING YOU! FIRE ME!"
I'm not sure exactly how a non-wrestler beating down three wrestlers is supposed to either make sense or be a good thing for the storyline, but if it gets Shane on TV I'll roll with it for now.
Posted By: The Glide (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Got to disagree, the closing segment was really poorly done. If you're going to have a guy act all pissed and punch guys in the face, try to make it convincing.
Shane was sloppy, and his punches were all clearly pulled and fake looking. Orton's selling was pretty goofy, and considering Legacy were put over as THE talents on Raw, they were quickly dispatched by a non-wrestler who last time we saw him got the taste slapped out of his mouth by his sister.
The whole Raw roster was on the stage and pissed at Orton, why not have all them beat the shit out of him - it might have looked, you know, good.
Opening segment and Cena/HBK were highlights....the closing segment was a really poor follow up to last week's awesome ending.
Posted By: dennett316 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Cena/HBK was *** max.
Posted By: Guest#0897 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:25 PM
On what world are we living in where the WWE expects us to buy Shane McMahon as a threat to Randy Orton? I spent that entire segment going "really?"
Posted By: Guest#1510 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Wow, they really went out of their way to avoid any shot of C___s Be____t during that focus on the first Money in the Bank match.
Posted By: Joe K. (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM
So Orton kills Vince, begins to get some heat.. kills bitches dead in the Rumble. Wins the deal and here comes the money to kick his ass like he's nothing? Great booking guys. My girlfriend whose a casual wrestling fan at best laughed at that segment and said "Damn they just made Randy look like a bitch." Maybe next week Stephanie will kick Jerico's ass?
Posted By: The Drunken Race Fan (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM
im glad Jericho is taking a spot in the chamber. kofi and rey will have some high spots but you know they wont win. im guessing JBL or HBK will take one of the other spots (if not both). Regardless of what happens, im crossing my fingers for the third straight year that we see HBK vs Taker at WM25.
Posted By: hum (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I like Shane (IMO he is the best of the Mcmahons) but the ending segment was too unrealistic. They Build Legacy to be this great stable then Shane takes them all out himself.
Posted By: MRM 2009 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM
So Shane takes out the Legacy by himself... That makes total sense >_>
Posted By: ... (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Those punches thrown by Shane at the end had to be the worst I've ever seen, and Orton acted like he got hit by Evander Holyfield by those lame blows.
Posted By: Michael (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM
HAHAHAHA, what is up with this McMahon children being up to beat up top talent?
Posted By: DP (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM
no rvd..........
Posted By: dachrisman (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM
rvd.........one shot deal?????????????
Posted By: dachrisman (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Roid Mysterio beats Regal?! That's a farce.
Posted By: MissyNEVERWearssocksWithShoes (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:34 PM
the ending of raw was awful. how can shane take on all 3 members of The Legacy and HH can't? Hell, shane started to take on the entire freaking roster. I usually don't mind Shane as he is the only McMahon I like but he look pathetic in the ring tonight with his punches.
I am so sick on the McMahons vs wrestler. WWE hasn't changed their storyline in 10 years.
I'm honesty interested in seeing Rourke vs Jericho. Rourke learned how to wrestle for the film and i bet he will put on the best celeb preformance we've ever seen.
Posted By: Potocky (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Those Shane punches were fucking horrendous! If you're going to try and make it look real, at least connect Shane. Like Vince did with HHH on RAW back in 2000! Or Piper did to Goldust at WMXII.
And the stage was the biggest showcase of jobbers (plus Jericho) that I've ever fucking seen in my life. Having him suddenly side with Stephanie and join that cause when he blinded Shawn Michaels and punched his wife in the face doesn't make a lick of fucking sense.
Some continuity please!
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I think both JBL and HBK get in the elimination chamber together next week
Posted By: William (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM
So, Shane > Legacy? GREAT BOOKING!
Posted By: ButchReedMark (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:42 PM
How fake was Shane's offense? He did know that the cameras were rolling, right?
Posted By: Guest#4027 (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Are you effin serious? Shane McMahon, a gray-haired NON WRESTLER not only knocks out Randy Orton, a top WWE talent and RAW's top heel, who BY THE WAY won the Royal Rumble. Shane needs to stay out of the ring for good. He wasn't even landing punches! It looked terrible. And the punches he landed looked worse than JBL's sissy slaps. Oh by the way, Shane also bitches out half the RAW roster and easily handles not only Randy Orton, but Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase. WHO THE FUCK WRITES THIS STUFF?!?!? Now I know why people hate the WWE. They're lucky TNA blows bad enough for people to watch WWE by default.
Posted By: MT (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:42 PM
wow.
where are all the comments?
it's either A: NO ONE is on tonight.
B: No one cares about the Royal Rumble fallout.
or C: Everyone hates McNew.
lol
Posted By: Thomas (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Shane vs. Orton at Wrestlemania.
BOOK IT!
Posted By: Anon. (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:52 PM
I didn't buy the final segment. Orton wins the rumble against everyone, yet Legacy can't handle Shane????
Major wtf moment for me
Posted By: 1shotdeal (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Did Shane McMahon just single-handedly lay out Legacy or am I going insane trying to make sense of the Impact spoilers?
Posted By: Mr. Roo (Registered) on January 26, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Is it me, or is Lawler now using every Cole-ism he can squeeze into his commentary? I know he's been ribbing Cole with the "vintage" line for a while, but now it's like he has a Cole Bingo sheet right in front of him!
Also, are The Lawyers and The Therapist now part of Legacy, or was it just a one shot deal?
(cue groans)
Posted By: The Grundle (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:54 PM
I'm calling it now...Shane will join Legacy before mania!!!....he is afterall a 2nd generation'er
Posted By: kingryan (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:54 PM
This was great until Super-Shane fought off the Legacy, Kofi Kingston and Charlie Haas single-handedly.
Posted By: Nick (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Is RVD signed or is it a 1 time deal!?
Posted By: onetimedeal? (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I was convinced Steph's threat to "do it to Randy Orton's face" was going to end in Steph kissing him.
Posted By: Guest#1887 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I guest RVD was just a one shot deal at the Royal Rumble
Posted By: ONE Shot (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:06 AM
wait...so like the McMahon's are faces now, or is Orton just like some SuperHeel
Posted By: LolWut? (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Agree with the reviewer. The show was kind of whatever, but Cena vs Michaels was awesome again and McMahons vs Orton is kicking ass and taking names. What a storyline there. Shane was whamming on Orton.
Disappointed with Cryme Time losing against Miz and Morrison.
I'm starting to love Stephanie and Shane carrying the company on TV after Vinny Mac moves on.
RVD should've gotten on the show.
Christian and Tomko should return at No Way Out.
Jeff Hardy/Matt Hardy/Edge looks interesting on Smackdown!
Posted By: Hot Pocket (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:14 AM
shaneo mac I love you dude. BUT please refresh the wrestling lessons. what is with the kelly kelly punches fromthe top position and jeez make it look like you hit the guy on the ramp. I was loving the segment until that...just awful.
Posted By: ted g (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Did Shane sign for the match or was the beatdown a one shot deal?
Posted By: 1ShotDeal (Registered) on January 27, 2009 at 12:15 AM
I was realllllly hoping for the Shane swerve at the end, but it was still great! Maybe they will save it for down the road like Shane swerving Stone Cold a decade ago at Survivor Series...
I laughed a little when they first said Orton had IED (with a psych major girlfriend, i knew it was bullshit lol) but i kinda liked that they are referring to Orton as a ticking time bomb that will let loose at any moment like an actual IED...very clever for the Creative Team
And honestly, I kinda marked out when Kofi beat Kane...because as soon as they said it was an EC Qualifier, i told myself Kofi is done...and then BAM!! Surprise WIN!! Loved it! And Santino's awesomeness and Orton becoming as big of a heel as the IWC darling Edge helped make this an amazing RAW
Posted By: Erik (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Awesome show overall, but I have never seen a worst flurry of punches like I have seen Shane do tonight. Did not look convincing AT ALL. But the passion and the look was there, so I'll overlook it. Here is hoping Shane vs Orton at No Way Out.
Posted By: shane-o (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:19 AM
I would have given my left testicle for Orton to punt Steph
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Shane beats up Orton to teach him a lesson...Orton beats up DiBiase to teach him a lesson....Do I see a pattern here?
Posted By: BecauseStoneColdSaidSo (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM
was RVD from last night just a one time deal or is he going to be on ECW or Smackdown?
Posted By: CallerNo9 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:23 AM
I wonder if WWE realize how fucking weak they just made Randy Orton look in that segment.
Posted By: wow (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Shane McMahon = Leader of Legacy. Swerve people.
Posted By: Guest#7188 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:34 AM
I see no problem with Shane getting the better of Orton and the legacy this evening (just a one shot deal). It makes plenty of sense that a shane would be full of rage and adrenaline and would be unstoppable when going after the person that kicked his father in the head. How many of you would feel that type of rage if someone hurt one of your parents? I only see a problem with it if shane got the better of Orton every week.
Posted By: For one week only (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:38 AM
I can't believe people are bitching that Shane isn't believable with taking all of them on...if someone is pushed to an edge like we are made to believe Shane is, then he let's lose all of his frustration...I don't think Orton looked like a little bitch, but i guess it's so hard for the little douches of the IWC to ever NOT bitch about something...in order to build someone up, they have to be able to have them fighting somebody...they are obviously adding Shane to the storyline and is he just going to stand around and be a non-entity? No, you have to build a house of fire underneath both of them...Orton being the biggest dick in the world and Shane being pushed to the max...you kids whine WAYYYY too much! I don't see how you expect anyone to EVER get over with anything without someone taking a slight beating....Christ..
Posted By: Erik (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Kofi in the Chamber! NICE!!!
The only person who has become a worst bitch to Y2J than CM Punk is RVD!
Posted By: DCFlash (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM
i forgot to mention that jbl also needs to just go away. that guy should have stayed retired.
i still can't believe they let shane go over basically the entire roster. i marked out when they all showed up on the ramp after orton threatened to cancel wrestlemania, thinking they were going to go to the ring and beat the living shit out of legacy (not for stephanie, for their payday) ... then i took another look and realized it was jabronie roll call. awful, awful ending but that's what you get when the people in charge own the product and want to put themselves on tv. there isn't a single positive comment on here and usually you can find SOME semblence of varying opinions.
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Please, the real mastermind behind the Legacy is the 2nd generation superstar that started it all...
MR. VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON!
Posted By: Guest#1137 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Only way you can justify those fucking pussy punches is if it's revealed that he wouldn't connect on any member of the Legacy as part of the swerve.
And still, nobody in this thread has mentioned how stupid it is that Jericho is suddenly siding with the roster with Stephanie vs. Orton. He's looking like shit because of it.
And someguy is obviously a retard looking for attention, but we already knew that!
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:52 AM
How laughable were Shane's punches? He didn't seem to get a mile ithin his target. I thing Raven's flock had more crediability than Rhodes and Dibiase. They got destroyed by a 40 year old spaz like Shane. I was laughing my ass off when he threw a punch at Kofi. Yowza what an awful show. No mention of Matt turning on Jeff? The least they could do is plug Smackdown with him giving an explanation.
Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:54 AM
I wonder if Kofi is going to have that shit-eating grin on his face when JBL makes him breast feed.
Posted By: D-Steak (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:00 AM
Had the last segment happened in TNA you would have been all over it saying they had a non-wrestler beat up 3 up and coming stars. But since its in the WWE you're all for it?
I'm not one for tna/wwe supporter conspiracy theories, but this sure makes one think!
p.s. did RVD resign or was it just a one shot deal?
Posted By: Guest#2450 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:05 AM
Shane's attack reminded me of Maria's from SD....but unlike Michelle and Nattie, Orton and the Legacy (and don't forget Kofi) were actually selling that crap. Bad ending.
Posted By: Guest#1179 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:06 AM
Well, I was getting excited with WWE again and getting into it, even thinking Mania looked buyable, then they go and bury Orton and the legacy and we're gonna have to deal with Shane-O-Mac again. God damn it, Stephanie was bad enough, this dummy too??? As a tough guy beating up 3 guys??? Ya, FU Vince, you just lost my viewership and my 24/7 subscription.
Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:08 AM
Shane-O-Mac is freaking awesome. Even if his punches looked bad, it's still a man who is pissed off, has been in way more intense hardcore matches than Randy, and I do not in the least think that Randy got buried. It's called suspension of disbelief, stop being pathetic smarks and roll with it. If the bad guy won everytime, that's not exactly compelling TV (HHH 2002-3). Randy's rise to stardom continues as well because he is fueding with the McMahons. God you guys are retarded.
Posted By: Banz (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:09 AM
I am pretty sure this angle is going to lead to HHH vs Orton at Mania. It just seems to make sense. The ultimate swerve would be to have Stephanie join orton crew. Remember she has the most to gain with vince gone.
Posted By: Big Dirty (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:09 AM
I hate it when Shane McMahon sporadiaclly pops in and thinks he's a wrestler. Orton should have dropped him like a bad habit.
Posted By: Jasper Jones (Registered) on January 27, 2009 at 01:12 AM
Why do they keep giving away potentially awesome feuds. I thought giving away interesting match ups was gone with the Monday Night Wars, now logic and time have told me otherwise which is why I don't book and just complain. The show could have had a better ending with Orton Punting Shane on his way to Steph. Punt her in the head and end her television time, I'm sick of watching the McMahon put themselves over actual wrestlers or "entertainers". Jericho was the break heel last year and he had turned into lex luger after he jobbed to Hogan at road wild in 97. Don't even get me started on the Team Angle booking of Debiase and Rhodes. The elimination chamber sucks balls, I miss the days of One on One main event matches. Why not have Cena Fight one of the Legacy or some shit. Please blow off the JBL Michaels feud too, wwe has the same problem TNA has, they forgot that old guys don't live forever. Before you jump up and yell well Kofi is in the chamber.. what will he do but job? I mean intercontinental champion to token chump. Someone said is wwe is like it was in 1998, i'd say its been in a vacuum ever since Vince bought WcW. Can't steal storylines or ideas from yourself, can ya Vince?!? Katie Vick 2.0!!!!
Posted By: Brusier Brody (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:15 AM
Orton did not beat up Shane because he is not provoked to the point of doing compared to last where he had to go against 10 men at a time.
Why would the Legacy beat up another superior? To get fired?
Howver, they should rly have the whole roster beating the Legacy up.
Posted By: Truth (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:23 AM
"And someguy is obviously a retard looking for attention, but we already knew that!
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:52 AM"
ok i'll bite, just this once ... what did i say to elicit this comment?
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:24 AM
Oh boy, the invincible McMahons are back. Why does Orton need lawyers to make sure he doesn't get fired when Stone Cold used to beat up Vince every week?
Ugh, it's back to DVR'ing Raw and watching it in 15 minutes for me.
Posted By: TG (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:55 AM
Are you kidding me???Way to go, Vince. Great way to make your #1 heel and Wrestlemania head-liner and Rhodes & DiBiase look like a complete and utter joke. RKO was finally starting to get some steam on him again as a bad-ass killer heel and you let your talentless son come out and make Randy sell for his lame "punches". Seriously I was getting 2003 flashbacks when Shane pulled the same thing with Kane and made HIM look like a joke, remember?? Wonderful, bring on Orton vs Shane at No Way Out I guess, just remember, these petty little McMahon Marathons are sort of things that could bite you in the ass in the long run, Vinnie Mac.
Posted By: ScoBro (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:04 AM
Are you kidding me???Way to go, Vince. Great way to make your #1 heel and Wrestlemania head-liner and Rhodes & DiBiase look like a complete and utter joke. RKO was finally starting to get some steam on him again as a bad-ass killer heel and you let your talentless son come out and make Randy sell for his lame "punches". Seriously I was getting 2003 flashbacks when Shane pulled the same thing with Kane and made HIM look like a joke, remember?? Wonderful, bring on Orton vs Shane at No Way Out I guess, just remember, these petty little McMahon Marathons are sort of things that could bite you in the ass in the long run, Vinnie Mac.
Posted By: ScoBro (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:11 AM
Hey assholes. If shane is really going to join the legacy then it makes perfect sense for them to let shane whoop there ass to trick everyone. Shanes punches were garbage though.
Posted By: Guest#9081 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:14 AM
That ending was TERRIBLE. Was Shane trying to punch orton? We'll find out next week.
Posted By: Guest#6006 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:36 AM
It's interesting that, even though it's a real disorder, that the E chose the I.E.D. to explain Orton's behavior since I.E.D. is another acronym for improvised explosive device. I just find it ironic given their work with the troops over in Iraq and Afghanistan. With the end of the show, I say give it time....the IWC shouldn't come to conclusion so fast over whether or not they are making Orton look weak. I see that it may all be a work in progress with Shane ultimately pulling the swerve (remember how Steph pushed him aside when Vinnie Mac was nowhere in the picture and she is, of course, daddy's little girl). This might end up with a mega-stable of more second generation stars like Hennig, Flair, D.H. Smith, and Mike a.k.a. IRS Rotunda's kid...with Shane being the mouthpiece along with Orton. It could ultimately include the likes of Mike Knox (who I still think is morphing into The Berzerker). Give this new angle a chance...it's been awhile since we've had a story that has the potential to turn into something interesting. This, unlike the countless times that Vinnie Mac has been "blown-up", seems to have, at least, some hint of realism as far as a story goes.
Posted By: Max (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:44 AM
Shane being mad after last week...fine
Shane being so pissed he takes out Orton...okay I'll buy that
Shane punhing Orton like a 10 year old girl...why did that make it on TV?
Posted By: Guest#4273 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:45 AM
As my wife said as she crossed the living room, "Don't they have any other tag teams?"..I love Miz/Morrison, but they don't need to be on every show, and Cryme Tyme is terrible. Enough with this match please. Very suprised Kofi beat Kane. I'm interested in where this losing streak is going to take Kane, hopefully somewhere interesting. Kofi in a chamber match, eh, should be good for a few quick moves and then a easy pinfall, one down.. So it looks like its going to be Jericho vs Randy the Ram with Flair in his corner at Mania. Or something to that affect. I will keep an open mind here, for now. Can we please mix up the commercials a little bit, why the same every single break, are there no more advertisers out there? Cena vs Michaels was ok, kind of like cliff notes version of what they can do, basic and too the point. Wierd cut to the orton punt at the end of this segment though. Kinda left JBL in the ring looking at Michaels, what did JBL do? Bad ending to that situation, like they forgot to write the ending. Ladies looked ok I suppose, good to see beth dominate, she needs more of that. Santino was once again gold on the mic. Regal vs Rey was decent and probably the match I enjoyed the most. Even Reys offense looked passable, which im sure has more to do with Regal than Rey. So Rey vs Kofi vs Cena...Hmm, so far things are looking good for Cena. Layla looked amazing amazing amazing, she has quite the body on her. Cena's movie looked decent, maybe a Netflix rental on the bottom of my que. More than I could say for the Marine, Condemed, or See No Evil, or Kennedy's movie. Jericho vs Punk part 34 was decent for the short time they had, Jericho botched the codebreaker, a rare miss for him. Cena has a little competion, but with Randy the Ram on Jericho plate, looks like Cena is still safe in the chamber. Can we see the punt to Vince one more time, I think I missed it the 100 times they have shown it, much like these stupid commercials they keep playing over and over. We get it, sludge..move on.. The final segment was just plain awful. Shane looked old and out of shape, not to mention his punches were among the worst I have seen. What happened to Shane, he used to be a decent(still not that believable), but decent wrestler. Age caught up with him and it looked terrible to have Orton get knocked silly by him. I didn't mind him getting by Cody and Dibiase as they should realize that they should not hit Shane, they are still in ok standing, they did their best to hold him back without making contact, and i thought that was the only thing they did right with this segment. Butr Shane fighting everyone at the end was ridiculous once again. Keep this for No Way Out and out of Mania please, Shane hit the gym and work on the punches.
Posted By: Piperfan01 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:49 AM
Shane-O-Mac is freaking awesome. Even if his punches looked bad, it's still a man who is pissed off, has been in way more intense hardcore matches than Randy, and I do not in the least think that Randy got buried. It's called suspension of disbelief, stop being pathetic smarks and roll with it. If the bad guy won everytime, that's not exactly compelling TV (HHH 2002-3). Randy's rise to stardom continues as well because he is fueding with the McMahons. God you guys are retarded.
Posted By: Banz (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:09 AM
Pro Wrestling does call for a CERTAIN LEVEL of a suspension of disbelief but when you have a non-wrestler come out and beat down your #1 heel it makes him look like a fucking joke and there's no way of getting around that.
If Shane McMahon can beat Orton's ass so easily then surely anyone in WWE can.
How can they expect me to believe that Orton could be a threat to any other wrestler when Shane McMahon can get the better of him so easily?
Answer: They can't.
Orton should have beat Shane down and punted him like he did Vince.
The only retard here is you, Randy Orton got completely buried tonight.
Posted By: Guest#5969 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:15 AM
Banz, no one wants to see the McMahons in a mainevent feud, the Vince punt was awesome but it shouldn't lead to a fucking feud with Shane, that's shit.
Posted By: Guest#0243 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:18 AM
Who is Shane? He looked great. I say he's a crowd licker
Posted By: guest (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:20 AM
Hey assholes. If shane is really going to join the legacy then it makes perfect sense for them to let shane whoop there ass to trick everyone. Shanes punches were garbage though.
Posted By: Guest#9081 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:14 AM
If that happens then I'm sure everyone will be fine with it but it's very doubtful.
Posted By: Guest#2603 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:22 AM
wheres rvd?
Posted By: Guest#7417 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:55 AM
Randy Orton didn't even fight back against shane. Debiase and Rhodes just tried to keep him from attacking randy. We all know either shane or stephanie will join sides with legacy. They forshadowed it months earlier when stephanie slapped shane. Since stephanie already did this type of storyline with tripleh I am thinking shane is going to be the one.
Posted By: Earl Hebner (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:01 AM
EH!? Wtf? How the hell was that a fantastic final segment? ARE YOU HIGH!?
Posted By: Samee (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:25 AM
So they make a huge effort to get legacy finally over at the rumble by having them in the final four only to let Shane destroy them singlehandedly?????
If I was Shane id be embarassed to even have done what he did - why care about Orton Vs Cena at WM now!
Surely Shane o'Mac vs Cena is the way to go!
Posted By: Tom87 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:26 AM
Shane-O-Mac-n-Cheese was laughable as always. Vince should know by now that he and his offspring should never even attempt to engage in physical combat; simply because their offense looks so pathetic.
This isn't a total travesty though. Despite the fact that you fools like to ejaculate in eachother's faces over them, the generic Orton trio aren't worthy of the push that they're being given, so being manhandled by a non-wrestler/glorified yard-tard isn't such a terrible thing after all. It makes them look bad - which is strongly recommended.
Plus, Shane McMahon has more personality in the rolls under his shirt than the three of those default superstars combined.
Posted By: Gary Soneji (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:26 AM
Shane-O-Mac is freaking awesome. Even if his punches looked bad, it's still a man who is pissed off, has been in way more intense hardcore matches than Randy, and I do not in the least think that Randy got buried. It's called suspension of disbelief, stop being pathetic smarks and roll with it. If the bad guy won everytime, that's not exactly compelling TV (HHH 2002-3). Randy's rise to stardom continues as well because he is fueding with the McMahons. God you guys are retarded.
Posted By: Banz (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:09 AM
So instead of being "smarks", they should should all be marks, like you, right?
Did you know that maybe, just maybe - not everyone is a mindless zombie that has to "suspend disbelief" in an effort to enjoy every single horrific angle/storyline that Vince McMahon's Yes-Men decide to come up with?
It's also okay to criticize once in a while too!
Posted By: Magnum TOKYO, JP (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:47 AM
someguy:
You made negative comments about Brad B.'s favorites. That's a big no-no, DONTCHAKNOW?!
Prepare for the wrath of one of the millions that cannot tolerate an opinion that differs from their own.
Posted By: Long Duk Dong (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:53 AM
Aside from Cena/HBK, this was lame as usual
Posted By: claudia chan (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:56 AM
I hope they do rourke vs santino instead...
Posted By: Juicesucker (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:24 AM
We opened and closed with a 15 minute promo, had 2 lawyers and a therapist in the ring and had Shane McMahon pulling his punches more obviously than MSNBC did on Barack Obama. Endless replays of the Boot To The Head Heard Round The Universe. The Divas match was boring, save for Santino on the mic. Epic Fail.
Legacy looked weak, the winners of Jericho/Punk and Mysterio/Regal were obvious (we'll probably see Punk/Regal at No Way Out, cause lord knows they wont have an IC Title match at WM25).HBK/Cena was a very good match with a blah ending, JBL should have just smacked HBK around to get him DQed Epic Blah.
Kofi beating Kane was a nice surprise. Epic Cool.
WWE is now embracing The Wrestler. Epic Flip/Flop. Though I do think Jericho is best suited to carry Rourke to a halfway decent match and it sounds like we might get a Flair appearance out of this, which is an Eternal Epic Win for me.
Orton DID almost get me to mark out with his FIRE ME NOW routine though. He's definitely stepping up his game. Epic Win
Posted By: Vintage Epic Review (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:32 AM
Randy Ortan better kick Shanes head in next week.
Posted By: person (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:33 AM
Wow... in one night, the McMahons managed to kill Legacy, Orton's awesome heel character, Orton's credibility, the importance of the World Championship, and Wrestlemania. Oh, and Shane beat up Kofi Kingston, too!
The only way this could possibly get worse is if Shane joins Legacy. But, it can't get any worse. Please, don't let it get any worse.
Posted By: JT (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:35 AM
Obviously Shane is a member of Legacy. Who cant see this swerve coming?
Posted By: Champ (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:44 AM
shane vs orton at no way out, with ortons title shot on the line
Posted By: jacish23 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:50 AM
This is the kind of nonsense I've been talking about. Looks like some posters here are finally starting to get it about the McMahon Family Show.
When a McMahon shows up on the screen, I reach for the remote. Some viewers still reach for their zippers.
Posted By: Bad guy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:09 AM
best thing they can do with the jericho/rourke thing is keep someone as bad as jericho away from WM
Posted By: Guest#8764 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:09 AM
Oh God! This is going to be like that Kane V Shane feud all over again, only with 3 guys instead of 1 monster. Yeah, like that feud did wonders for Kane's career. Sounds like Raw is going to be centred around the McMahons again. I just pray that Randy ends up punting both Shane and Stephanie and taking the McMahons off TV... actually I hope he punts Linda's robotic head off as well, just for a hell of it.
Posted By: A Punt for every McMahon. (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:14 AM
Shane beating up Orton reminded me of when Ralphie beat up Scott Farkas. Orton has IED. Well Shanes got IEd plus retard strength and is ape shit crazy too.
Posted By: gutter (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:36 AM
""And someguy is obviously a retard looking for attention, but we already knew that!
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:52 AM"
ok i'll bite, just this once ... what did i say to elicit this comment?
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:24 AM"
Check your comments at the beginning of the thread. You're either trolling or an idiot, and neither option is acceptable.
1. You saying "Jericho is boring" is outrageous enough because if there's one thing he is not it's boring. But to say he was only interesting as Steph's lapdog which is when he was at his LEAST interesting? You're just trying to get responses out of people (which worked). Plus, you don't like him because of his tights. What's next: his hairstyle and makeup offend you?
2. People like CM Punk because he's energetic and entertaining. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean he isn't.
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:43 AM
Ok i don't care what half you guys think about last nights show all of you gave your ideas on what they were going to do with this angle and all of you were wrong. IED (Intermittent explosive disorder) brilliant. Didnt see that coming i thought the same way as a lot of people wither legacy would join with Shane or Steph but didnt see that coming. Loved it. PS Nice job Kofi Kingston
Posted By: sketchy1 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:49 AM
"Wow, they really went out of their way to avoid any shot of C___s Be____t during that focus on the first Money in the Bank match."
They did their best to edit him out, to be sure, but nonetheless Benoit was on Raw. Granted he was on the ground with his back to the camera, in the background of one of the other shots in that video package (and you would have to be specifically looking for him, which I was), but still.
On an unrelated note, I wish Regal got into the chamber instead of Rey.
Posted By: Hawkeye (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 08:00 AM
I thought the last segment on Raw was total bullshit. Orton is afraid of Shane?!? Who the hell wrote that in the storyline?!? Shanes' punches look as bad as the time Big show got punched out by that boxer from last wrestlemania(not important enough to remember his name).
Posted By: guest1228 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 08:03 AM
Worst Raw ending in a LOOOOONG time
So Randy Orton can win the rumble with legacies help, he is a former champion and is in the ring with the former tag team champs in Dibiase and Rhodes. and they see shane coming to the ring and are prepared
but shane then proceeds to kick the crap out of them?!?!?! are you kidding me?!?!
How does this do anything except be self serving to the mcmahon family? Are you building orton for wrestlemania with this? NO!
Are you building legacy as a bad ass faction? NO! they cant even beat the bosses grey haired kid 3 on 1!!
So the point of that whole segment that shane was angry and somehow got the power of she-ra and beat the crap out of THE ENTIRE GROUP?!?!BY HIMSELF!?!?
WOW just WOW...talk about garbage
If you wanted to do this at least a little better have triple H come out...at least he is a wrestler...and would be avenging his father-in-law and sticking up for his women....not that burying Legacy for any McMahon is a good idea...but at least H3 is a wrestler for goodness sake.
Posted By: Guest#2055 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 08:59 AM
That may have single handedly been the worst ending of Raw ever. Let's build up the Legacy to be a legitimate force in wrestling, only to have a non-wrestler beat the crap out of all three at the same time. Can you say BERRIED?
WWE needs to get its crap together soon, because right now RAW sucks. The Mendes protege story makes Glamorella boring, and while I don't have a problem with Rourke wrestling at WM, you waste CHRIS FREAKING JERICHO with that?
And look at the Elim chamber match for RAW. You have Mysterio and Kingston, who have no chance of headlining WM, Jericho, who we know will wrestle Rourke, and Cena. I am a Cena fan, but at least give me a reason to believe he MIGHT NOT retain. The last two entries better be good, because right now, I could care less.
But nothing tops the Shane putting himself over at everyone else's expense storyline. Get the damn Mac's off my TV or ratings will plummet.
Posted By: Brian (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:01 AM
Only way Shane can take down the entire legacy is if he's a part of it .... Shane vs. Orton at No Way Out ends with Shane joining up.
Posted By: Patrick (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:03 AM
The Orton main event interview was all kinds of SUCK . . . Shane FUCKING McMahon pwning all of Legacy on his own just killed the entire angle for me, and made them all look like BITCHES . . . ORTON included. Pfffffttttt.
Posted By: McLovin (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:05 AM
Damnit. I love Jericho but I think Punk REALLY needed to be in that Chamber match. Plus, a win over Jericho would do him good because I don't think he's ever beat him(?).
Posted By: Parxy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:07 AM
"wow.
where are all the comments?
it's either A: NO ONE is on tonight.
B: No one cares about the Royal Rumble fallout.
or C: Everyone hates McNew.
lol "
Do you seriously log on for the fucking comments?
Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:14 AM
"Roid Mysterio beats Regal?! That's a farce. "
Oh, wow, Missywhateverthefuck taking another pointless shot at Mysterio for no real reason. It's almost as if you secretly want him.
Posted By: His Bubbliness (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:18 AM
Yup. Definitely Shane is a part of the legacy. He's got a plan to strip control from steph. watch it happen. Orton will rep shane at wrestlemania. who will rep Steph? then there will probably be another surprise... vince will come back pissed at both, and he'll have someone rep him. it will be a ladder match. smell it?
Posted By: Adam H (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:24 AM
Shaneomania is running wild!
Posted By: Sutcliffe (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:31 AM
Caught the last bit of Raw, and I too think it's bullshit. Shane's not a wrestler so the idea that he could take on three guys like that is lame. Don't get me started on the few times he actually did step in the ring to compete, because I still don't consider him a wrestler.
And who gives a shit about what Steph and Shane think about what happened to their dad? Half the time they want to run him out of business so it's not like they should be so upset about what happened to daddy. Didn't Vince wrestle Stephanie in a tag match a few years ago?
Steph's voice is still goddamn annoying. I want to see her boobs though.
Posted By: Zingy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:32 AM
this show had it's good and bad moments, I was feelin the last segment until shane hearst-helmsley-mcmahon cleaned house. like most, i thought and wouldv'e like to have seen the swerve seeing as stephanie is already on vince's side, maybe down the line. Oh and i'm sick to my stomach of wwe's "love" of the wrestler. Boy, what award buzz will do to vince mcmahon.......makes him look real cheap, not literally, but it makes him look REAL cheap to hate it THEN jump on board when the movie wins some awards.
Posted By: c.j (Registered) on January 27, 2009 at 09:33 AM
Jesus...all you TNA loving no nothings.
"Boohoo Shane berried Legacy,ohhh that final segment sucked,oh Ortons afraid of Shane?b.s."
You morons know nothing about using emotion to build an angle do you?If you don't have fat ass Foley falling from the cell through the announcers table you're not happy are you?You wanna honestly say TNA is more entertaining then the last couple of months of Raw and Smackdown?Fuck you liars.
If somebody punted your fathers head of you would go ape shit and 2 guys half your size aren't going to easily stop you.And Orton getting beat up was a combination of him not expecting Shane to break away and spear him mixed with the fact that he knows he stepped over the line and Shane was pissed.Orton played it PERECTLY and I hate the bastard.
Lets not also forget the fact that Shane is a large man and has quite a few matches under his belt.
You know,I come on here to read comments and such, but this bullshit blind bashing is rediculous.It sucks that people can't come on here and voice their opinions in an educated and informed manner.And I apologize for my swearing but some of you people just poste to get yourselves off and its tired.
Posted By: Guest#0773 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:47 AM
Obviously Shane is the leader. The beating will surface as fake as a way to lure Stephanie and the roster in then bam! He turns and makes the Legacy unstoppable with one of the bosses help. Steph was running the show, daddy agreed with everything she said. The only way Shane could stop her was to form this stable from behind the scene's.
He beat up Orton and Legacy to get them out of there so the roster didn't attack them.
Posted By: SHANE LEGACY LEADER! IDIOTS (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:49 AM
Comments like these is why the IWC is never taken seriously. The crowd was lapping it up, they loved each and every moment of it and it's not going to change how they feel about Orton. Like a bunch of internet fans like ourselves is going to affect them if we don't like them, with our stupid "is it a one shot deal? lol" and oh how I hate this one "really??? really????", fucking nerds. XD
Posted By: JcJames (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Stop bitching people..Shane McMahon has held more titles than Teddy and Cody combined...hell he has wrestled Kurt Angle, Big Show, HHH, and lest we forget the man himself Vincent Kennedy McMahon...so his triumph his far from "unbelieveable"...u kids must b new school cena marks
Posted By: Nate-O (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Did anyone else think that Orton and Stephanie were going to make out when they went face-to-face?
Posted By: Ry (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Wow, the writer of this report is really gay for Randy Orton isn't he?
Posted By: Guest#4064 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Punk loses a chance at the EC and Kofi gets in? Ummmmmmm yeah. no offense to Kofi but I'd much rather see Punk in the match.
Posted By: Jake Fury (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:25 AM
It's already been said, but let me reinforce it again:
Randy Orton did not fight back.
Posted By: Jamal (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Ok, well i guess people here that are complaining about the final segment of Raw last night failed to see what the WWE was going for. When Shane came down he wasn't the usual "dancing fool" that he usually is. He came in all pissed and ready to fight. Did anyone else notice that he wasn't throwing the typical wrestling punches that these beatdowns uaually entail. He was quick jabbing orton with his knuckles probably trying to bust him open. And the comments about him taking out the entire Legacy. Let me ask you this, What would any of you do if someone kicked your father in the head? Now I've been a wresting fan for alot of years and I've been witness to alot of beatdowns on Raw, SD, ECW and PPV's but nothing looked more "real" thatn the kick that Orton delivered to Vince. I was front row in Toronto wHen Orton kiked RVD in the head 2 years ago and evn that looked more "planned" than the McMahon kick.
I'm not saying that the final segment was amazing but put yourself in Shane's shoes. Guys it's wrestling, if you don't like the way they do things then stop watching. I think the segment was very believable, would have been better if he did bust Orton up but what can you do. It's not like he came down and beat the entire roster in 5 minutes like someone over on the blue show.
Ironically, Shane will join Legacy and sadly everyone will complain about that to.
Posted By: PDT (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:29 AM
"Wow, another fantastic final segment."
If you truly think that, you need to retire as a wrestling reviewer.
Posted By: Worst...raw...ever (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Champ
I think that Stephanie is the one who's going to be joining Legacy. She brought in Shane to do his thing which will lead to a match between Shane and Orton, which will lead to Stephanie turning on Shane and allowing Orton to kick his head off.
Shane was threatening her power as GM of Raw, as was a returning Vince. She turned to Orton to take them both out so she could consolidate her power.
Could be why Legacy held back, to lull him into a false sense of security in order to accept a match.
Either way, Stephanie joining Legacy would make far more sense than Shane.
Posted By: dennett316 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM
The Orton who stole WrestleMania
You see, all the stars in the locker room loved wrestlemania alot
But Orton, who lived just north of the locker room did not
It writes itself
Posted By: MRM 2009 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM
So I am guessing that at No Way Out we will get Randy Orton with Dibiase and Rhoades vs Shane McMahon? They should bring the Mean Street Posse back for a one shot deal.
So Shane gets punted at No Way Out and during the Mania main event Vince helps Cena retain? Or turns on Cena. Boring.
Posted By: DaveJUK (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Could someone please explain to me where this whole oneshotdeal thing comes from? and why is it supposed to be funny?
Posted By: Kjeldbjerg (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Guys, the final segment was great and added a bunch of heat for the Legacy/McMahon feud.
And think about it, the Legacy spent half an hour in the rumble last night, they're all tired. They were probably out celebrating Orton's victory all night. They showed up, not expecting to compete, thinking that Orton's lawsuits would have everyone bowing to them.
Meanwhile Shane has been stewing in his own skin for a week, thinking murder towards Orton. He shows up, surprises Legacy, and gets a few good shots off on Orton. Rhodes and Dibiase try to hold him down, but he wiggles free and throws a few more punches at Orton. Finally, Cody and Ted get him down, then the whole roster jumps in.
That is in no way as bad as you guys make it sound. If they are planning on continuing the McMahon/Orton storyline, the McMahons have to look good at some point. Might as well have it be here, by surprise, than some other time when Orton is expecting it.
So yes, it was a fantastic segment that had HUGE heat from the crowd.
Posted By: Homie (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM
next week shane's son is rvd
Posted By: greatscott (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Rob,
As much as I enjoy your reviews I think your assessment of the Shane-Orton beatdown was incorrect.
The faction as a whole did look weak, and as of this point no one buys the Legacy as anything more than Orton and his cronies, much like the guys who were with Edge in La Familia.
It's obvious that the WWE has no concept on how to build stables since Evolution departed. EVERYONE in the stable needs to look dominant, and once that beatdown happened no one will truly buy them as anything serious.
Will that mean anyone on this board will stop watching Raw? I don't think so, the build to WM will keep everyone involved.
Posted By: Orlando (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Aw man, I watched that crap again on youtube. Last segment was really bad. I mean really really BAD. Things were actually okay until the punches. I mean, Orton's explained his "disorder" thingy, and he's trying to keep his cool so he won't do something he'll later regret, which is how Shane might've gotten some offense on him, but the punches? The punches!?
WHY DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE MCMAHONS, EVEN THE NON-WRESTLER ONES, BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE ROSTER! WHY!?
Hell, I LIKE Shane too, but this was just painful. The end WOULD'VE been electrifying, if only Shane had brought a baseball bat or steel chair with him. That would've made more sense.
I hope they do SOMETHING to try to salvage this next week, but for now, it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Posted By: The Nitin (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Shane didn't bury the Legacy tonight. He was in a fit of rage after what happen to his dad. The psycholgoy of it gives the impression of performing above your grade because of the fury.
Orton was nothing less than awesome on the mic....again. Man this guy can bring the passion. We all know he can rassle. If he can keep his head on straight outside the ring, he'll be one of the all-time greats.
Posted By: Buck I (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:45 AM
"As for the rest of the show it was just kinda there, as the only thing they're really building right now is McMahon's vs. Orton. We're kind of in a holding pattern in the period between now and No Way Out as everything is building towards Wrestlemania."
What about the multiple elimination chamber qualifying matches, dumbass?
Posted By: Big Fat Fag (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:46 AM
I was hoping that people would be pissed about the last 5 minutes of that segment. If Shane-o Mac doesnt join the Legacy...they just buried Legacy. Also, why the fuck were the wrestlers standing on the ramp while Shane takes them on 3-1. Wouldn't someone help out. He's the boss' son. Helping him has got to help your career. The last 5 minutes sucked hot, plumber ass.
Posted By: your REAL daddy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Did I resign or was it just a one shot deal?
Posted By: RVD (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:50 AM
wow.
where are all the comments?
it's either A: NO ONE is on tonight.
B: No one cares about the Royal Rumble fallout.
or C: Everyone hates McNew.
lol
Posted By: Thomas (Guest) on January 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM
FAIL
Posted By: King Nikolai (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Shane is crap.
He can't wrestle. He only knows how to do special hardcore matches.
Crap. Epic fail.
Posted By: Coreyoni (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Come on! Shane is going to run the legacy, become the O.G. legacy. Similar to the Ric/David Flair story. God these storylines are so transparent.
Posted By: Jynxx (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Did any of the Legacy members ever actually hit Shane? Or even attempt to hit him? It seemed like Rhodes and DiBiase especially were going out of their way to just hold back Shane but not strike him.
Posted By: Guest#0268 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Terrible Raw.
WHERE THE F IS MICKIE JAMES???????????????????????????
Posted By: Murray (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Shane > Orton > Kofi > Brad B
Posted By: McLovin (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM
You all just love to bitch. Orton, your "GOD", can't win them all. Have a little patience. I thought you all didn't like to be pandered to. Well, that's just when Cena does the "pandering".
Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM
"And the comments about him taking out the entire Legacy. Let me ask you this, What would any of you do if someone kicked your father in the head?"
----------------------
I would have gotten in the ring threw some punches and gotten my butt handed to me because IT WAS THREE ON ONE!!!!
No one is arguing his intent was noble...we are just arguing the final result which is bogus!
Unless Shane somehow became Fedor and Bruce Lee rolled into one....he should have gotten his head handed to him!
Posted By: Guest#2717 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:22 PM
Why are all you people so pissed off about Shane taking out Legacy? It doesn't occur to you that maybe they were taking a dive so everyone thinks Shane and Orton are against eachother just so they can swerve everybody when Shane turns on Stephanie for taking RAW from him. Let's see where this goes before we start bashing it.
Posted By: Chappo (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:28 PM
I got free tickets to this RAW in Cleveland. It was terrible. We were so bored that my friend fell asleep during the ECW tapings. The crowd wasn't into anything at all. I don't see how anyone can have an emotional investment with anything WWE does. I was kinda hopin that Orton and Stephanie McMahon would make out at the end of the show. If his group is the Legacy, she's a perfect fit. She's a third generation star and it would just be funny. That and I think i enjoy seeing wrestling fans pissed off, because they actually believe that this crap has some sort of an effect on their life. Oh and I want Steve Austin's agent. This guy hasn't worked a full schedule in 9 years and he still has merchandise on shelves at events.
I did have a chance to wander backstage and talk with the guy who runs the big titantron. now that looks like it would be a fun gig.
Posted By: Guest#9154 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:35 PM
Dear Shane McMahon,
If you're going to "knock someone out" , please make the punches look real. Couldn't you have practiced your punches for a few days before you came to the ring? Phhh. Randy's overselling made your punches look even worse. Maybe you could go ahead and take boxing lessons if you want to make your punches REALISTIC.
Sincerely,
Chico
Posted By: Chico (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:43 PM
Agree with the reviewer. The show was kind of whatever, but Cena vs Michaels was awesome again and McMahons vs Orton is kicking ass and taking names. What a storyline there. Shane was whamming on Orton.
Disappointed with Cryme Time losing against Miz and Morrison.
I'm starting to love Stephanie and Shane carrying the company on TV after Vinny Mac moves on.
RVD should've gotten on the show.
Christian and Tomko should return at No Way Out.
Jeff Hardy/Matt Hardy/Edge looks interesting on Smackdown!
Posted By: Hot Pocket (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:14 AM
You must work for the WWE to say those things.
Posted By: Chico (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:49 PM
I think everyone is missing the point, Orton didn't fight back because that would kill his whole lawsuit if he assaulted Shane, thats why Cody Rhodes was just holding him and not attacking him.
Posted By: Ben Dover (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:59 PM
I want to see Vince, Shane and Stephanie is a triple threat match. Now, that, my friends, would be awesome.
Posted By: Chico (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 01:59 PM
"""You wanna honestly say TNA is more entertaining then the last couple of months of Raw and Smackdown?"""
Impact has definitely been more entertaining than RAW and Smackdown. But that has nothing to do with this discussion, so why bring it up here? We are talking about the horrific ending to RAW, a RAW where they had the chance to build up the one guy on their roster that has the type of ability to be alongside greats like The Rock & Austin someday and they had Shane-O-Mac beat him and his crew 1 on 3?
Austin never got taken out like that by McMahon, it took McMahon and his stooges and security and roster members to take down Austin. They had to bring The Giant from WCW to take him out at St. Massacre's Days Valentine or whatever that show was called.
Orton looked bad, really bad. And that sucks because a week ago they had a chance to build him. You guys are supporting them building a storyline, well fuck that, build a superstar. Orton could make them millions of dollars but they chose to push a story over him.
Stupid bullshit that makes RAW hard to watch. Dont tell me RAW is more entertaining than IMPACT, all you have is ratings to prove that and WCW was killing the WWF in ratings in 1997 but, for the most part, the WWF was putting out a better product just like TNA is doing now.
Posted By: miles (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:17 PM
Y2J wins the Elimination Chamber & loses the title to Rourke at WM25. David Arquette all over again! How can they follow the genius of the last month with this steaming gruel? Why can't the McMahons have their own stoopid show on VH1? GET OUT OF MY RING YOU NON-WRESTLERS!!!! After the good start, this show was double-dipped in suck. I still can't believe they expect us to cheer rich people that can't wrestle making everybody else look like dog dumplings. Did HHH write this? Not to be negative, but NO.
Posted By: fishstix68 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:24 PM
Looks like Shane-O is in line for the Superman/Hulk Hogan/John Cena/HHH push...able to dissect the entire roster in one single bound!
Posted By: Elliot (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:32 PM
Fire Orton. He certainly deserves it.
Posted By: Debz (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:33 PM
Homie,
The crowd was dead silent. How is that huge heat? I hope you're being sarcastic.
Posted By: Odog (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:34 PM
Is Scott Bayo playin the role of Shane Mcmahon, cus that picture looks like Randy Orton got duffed out by Charles in Charge
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:39 PM
Wow, so WWE can't build a friggin storyline around a son who wants his revenge and will do anything to get his hands on Randy Orton???
YOU GUYS TAKE YOURSELVES WAY TO FUCKIN SERIOUS...
whaaaa, Shane has grey hair and he layed out the legacy and got to Orton.
His punches didn't land....whaaaaa.
I'm never one to say that old line about wrestling being fake. but guys, you do realize its fake right, the punches are pulled and sometimes its more about the story being told than the actual physicality? I mean sure his punches could've looked a helluva lot more convincing, but that detail aside, i like it from a storyline perspective.
Get over yourselves...and to whoever in the comments section said that Floyd Maywhether wasn't important enough to remember...his hands alone are worth more than your entire family's income. He's pound for pound the greatest boxer in the world, THE biggest draw in sports period besides Oscar Dela Hoya, and can sit on his acquired wealth for the rest of his life without ever fighting again. Unlike some of your heroes in wrestling, Mayweather is truly set for the rest of his life.
Posted By: bighustle (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 02:56 PM
Kjeldberg: Back at the Raw reunion show where RVD made an appearance, someone posted a comment asking if he had re-signed or if it was a one-shot deal. But the comment was made on the page that *linked* to the Live Raw Results, so every week when you looked for the 411 live Raw coverage, that same comment was sitting there. It was never funny, it just became a 411 meme for whatever reason/
Posted By: Stanley (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:41 PM
um... i'm not sure if you guys know this, but Shane and Steph are actually FOURTH generation. Vince's grandfather started the company.
Posted By: raidersfan (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 03:55 PM
very underwhelming show. Cena and HBK was a solid, **1/2 str encounter, but everything else was lackluster.
When the trailor for a John Cena movie is the most entertaining 3-4 minutes of the show, there's a problem.
I will say that orton has been absolutely fantastic of late. he's in the zone and i love his character and delivery.
But that last segment is january's worst wrestling segment by far. It did nothing but make the legacy look utterly weak, and shane looked horribly out of shape.
Abd i love jericho and cena, but that was an incredibly sloppy match. the pinning combo, the running knee, the walls counter, all of them loved awfully weak or flubbed. and that was possibly the worst looking codebreaker in history.
I enjoyed the ruble and was hopin for a better raw, but very underwhelming.
Posted By: pat (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:24 PM
Raw was acutally not boring last night, but the ending suck. The entire Legacy is a joke whe nthey get their ass kick by Shane.
Posted By: Guest#0327 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:29 PM
That final segment was pure ass.
Posted By: EZMark (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:31 PM
Stanley, thank you for clearing that up
Posted By: Kjeldbjerg (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:43 PM
"Oh, wow, Missywhateverthefuck taking another pointless shot at Mysterio for no real reason. It's almost as if you secretly want him. "
Pointless? Be honest...wouldn't Regal's style fit the Elimination Chamber better? Now if it was Money in the Bank, then it'd be a different story.
Hell no I don't want him. Steriods make a guy limp.
As for the rest of the show...
Agreed 1000x about the ending looking fake..but I think it's part of the angle. I'm expecting Shane to join up at No Way Out in a , ahem, "shocking swerve".
Cryme Tyme should've went over.
I do think this is the year where the IC title is defended...unless Punk loses the strap.
Posted By: MissyNEVERWearssocksWithshoes (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:50 PM
Enough with Vince McMahon and his retarded family already. Shane is a glorified spot monkey who if it wasn't for his dad would probably be workin' some backyard fed showing their matches on youtube and Steph would be sucking off truckers for meth.
Posted By: Guest#6507 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 04:51 PM
The only way I might see a John Cena movie is that Tommy Carcetti is the villain.
Posted By: Stanley (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 05:13 PM
"Check your comments at the beginning of the thread. You're either trolling or an idiot, and neither option is acceptable.
1. You saying "Jericho is boring" is outrageous enough because if there's one thing he is not it's boring. But to say he was only interesting as Steph's lapdog which is when he was at his LEAST interesting? You're just trying to get responses out of people (which worked). Plus, you don't like him because of his tights. What's next: his hairstyle and makeup offend you?
2. People like CM Punk because he's energetic and entertaining. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean he isn't.
Posted By: Brad B (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:43 AM"
now I get it, you're a mark.
allow me to make one correction to my initial comment - jericho hasn't been interesting since BEFORE he was stephanie's lapdog. typo, what can you do?
i stand by my opinion, he's boring. you can only go to the well so often ... and yes, i think it's valid to criticize a look. dude wore long tights forever and now looks like a schmuck. i'm not the first to comment on how retarded it looks either.
as for cm punk, it's nothing personal, i'm sure he's a great guy and maybe you can buy him a drink sometime. i'm just not a big fan of the cookie-cutter babyface-smaller-guy-giant-killing underdog. mysterio does it better. not trolling, just stating opinions, which i guess can be overwhelming. bye.
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 05:20 PM
This show sucked. Shane buried the guy headlining WM. Only in WWE will you see 3 guys (The Legacy) dominate the Royal Rumble and 30 guys but look like bitches to a non wrestler in Shane McMahon. Shitty and lazy writing.
Posted By: Klossing (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 05:43 PM
This show sucked. Shane buried the guy headlining WM. Only in WWE will you see 3 guys (The Legacy) dominate the Royal Rumble and 30 guys but look like bitches to a non wrestler in Shane McMahon. Shitty and lazy writing.
Posted By: Klossing (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 05:45 PM
orton former champ
dibiase former champ
rhodes former champ
owners punk kid, beats them all at same time....how stupid
Posted By: dude (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Was anybody else watching the Rey/Regal match and suddenly remembered back in the day when Regal had a stranglehold on the WCW TV Title and ReyRey finally beat him for it? All of the Undercard and Midcard guys threw a huge celebration for him in the locker room. I might be the only one who remembers that.
Posted By: Jeremy (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:00 PM
1. So Shane = Austin now? Look out, Marissa... Seriously, Maria did a better job on Michelle last week. And I love Maria. You have no clue...
2. HBK/JBL/Cena is getting good. When the only straight face(and the CHAMP) is the 3rd wheel in a feud, that says something.
3. Orton's a prick. He's just really good at playing a prick. He's wrestling's Jack Nicholson.
Posted By: Kyatollah (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 06:37 PM
The ending was bad.
"Having a bigger plan" means having Shane fighting one on three? They better have a real "plan" backing up next week.
Also, it's kind of sad that the Vince-Randy storyline is bigger that the RR win. The RR victory for Randy is just a clause to secure his job and a way to threaten Stephanie. Winning the championship was not even mentioned by Randy.
Posted By: The Game (Registered) on January 27, 2009 at 07:00 PM
Opening the show with an Orton promo was their first mistake. The guy has no charisma in his delivery. He talks so slow. I could give a shit what he has to say, when even he looks bored saying it.
Kofi beat Kane? Not that Kane had any credibility left as it is, but putting that smiling skinny little bitch over the "Big Red Machine" in about 6 minutes is just terrible booking. I know they want to send the 12 year olds home happy, but don't they get their fill with Cena?
I have know interest in the tag division. That 8 minute title defense between those 2 uninteresting teams last night did little to change my view.
Shawn Michaels needs to retire. Watching that middle aged, cross eyed man hobble down to the ring is just depressing.
JBL is not, and never will be main event talent.
Jericho is boring and lame. Hasn't been interesting since 2002. I wish he would've stayed gone.
I didn't even stay up for the last 30 minutes, but I did watch the Shane O beat down. It was awesome.
TNA buries this shit.
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:03 PM
I loved that ending. That was the best part of the show.
Posted By: MBD (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:07 PM
To all you who are bitching about the Main Event segment from last night: Do you not understand the psychology behind it? Ever taken out your rage on someone who has brought you grief (i.e. harming/killing a family member)? Don't you think that if someone put your dad out of commission that you would possibly try to find that person and kill his ass dead? If you ask me, it made sense, rage will do things to you that you would not believe. That's what they were going for there, and they succeded!
Posted By: Corey (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:17 PM
Just wondering...am I the only one who noticed SHane missed most of his punches but, even though he was OBVIOUSLY hitting air, Orton sold 'em anyway? I'm not a wrestler, and I can fake 'em better than THAT. REALLY bad.
Posted By: Mike (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:43 PM
I really can't get over how in love you all are with Randy. Seriously...it's disturbing.
Posted By: Guest#4389 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 07:49 PM
you guys have no clue? It's called BUILDING storyline. What Shane's supposed to e all calm about his dad's head being used as a football? Idiots. Yeah he'll probably turn but he's supposed to be charged with emotion lashing out. the main event was done properly.
Ya'll are into Orton to a very bizarre degree.
Cody & Ted up this point haven't really accomplished a damn thing compared to Shane so him being able to take them down is not surprising given Shane's history.
Yeah McMahon are eating up time and honestly I'd prefer not watching them. simple solution...change the channel. but of course you Orton butt lovers could never do that. It's okay, live your lives.
Posted By: Kokko (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 08:24 PM
You guys bitch when "girls/kids" go gaga over Cena and yet you all do it for Orton hmm...
Orton's promo was bland as usually. "I'm mental" You guys just eat that crap up. It's okay. Orton will continuously supply that for you
Posted By: Guest#8257 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 08:30 PM
Sorry to bring back the pre-RVD meme but a Shane McMahon program against Orton, even if it's just for no way out = EPIC FAIL!
That gives a total anti-climax for the Rumble (and the big kick), messes with the build for Wrestlemania, it's heel vs heel, will make Orton look weak (unless he just squashes him) and frankly Shane isn't up to the match. Oh yeah and NO ONE wants to see it.
It seems the WWE has momentum right now but doesn't seem quite so controlled on it's direction.
Posted By: Fenris (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:10 PM
This is how it should have went down:
Orton begs Steph to fire him.
Steph doesn't.
Instead she makes a decree to the entire WWE Roster (Raw, SD, & ECW) that Randy Orton is a hunted man.
Anyone who pins Randy gets his spot at Wrestlemania. Any time any where.
Orton goes all the way through to Wrestlemania fighting for his life to keep his championship shot.
Make this happen!!!!
Posted By: Galen H. (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:12 PM
You all have the internets right? IED exists! It's real...damn real!
Posted By: me (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:34 PM
Are we really supposed to believe that Shane and Stephanie are on the same page? Didn't Shane basically call his sister a whore not too long ago? And, if I remember correctly, Stephanie slapped Shane. Why all of a sudden are they united in their hatred for Randy Orton? It doesn't make any sense.
Posted By: flexkavana79 (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:37 PM
"FIRE ME! I'M ALREADY FIRED!"
Posted By: Ric Flair (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 09:43 PM
Eh, RAW was "there".
Coming off some interesting storylines and a big Rumble RAW tonight was underwhelimg. The opening promo by Ortn was brilliant. It was good for uilding storylines but the wrestling itself was lacking. Which is shocking considering they had Cena-Michales and Punk-Jericho, neither of which were as good as earlier matches of those pairs. Jerich getting moved into a program with Rourke of all people to promote some movie (whiich actually loks good and is helmed by my one of my favorite directors, Darren Aronkofsky) is so disappointing.
And were Shane's punches wussy or what? Orton doing a feud with Shane after winning the Rumble doesn't make sense but whatever. Ending was so flat.
Posted By: lilwayne1 (Registered) on January 27, 2009 at 09:47 PM
Coming from a huge Jericho fan from late wcw to early wwe I have to agree. He couldn't look any more ridiculous in those short trunks, he has to be getting ragged on in the back. And that low monotone voice just isn't working.
Posted By: Someguy fan (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 10:11 PM
McEgo is running wild, brother. What you gonna do when Shane & Steph bury the whole roster, dude?
Posted By: Dirk Calloway (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:09 PM
" i'm just not a big fan of the cookie-cutter babyface-smaller-guy-giant-killing underdog. mysterio does it better."
I know it's your own opinion. I respect that. Honestly, though...why do you feel it's better when Mysterio does it as opposed to Punk? Again, I'm *not* flaming you, just honestly want to know. For me, it's not believable when Mysterio beats , well, just about anybody. I know it's about suspension of disbelief, but it looks too fake. Not only because of his size, but because his moves do not look like they hurt. Punk's offense, on the other hand, looks more believable.
Posted By: MissyNEVERWearssocksWithShoes (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 11:34 PM
When the most entertaining person on raw,
is NOT a wwe Employee you should all know the problems that creative is having..
Didn't anyone else notice or laugh at the heckler that was going nutz during Orton's opening mono(toned)log ?
"Theres something that i've been hiding for a while.. something i've been living with"
Who ever that fan is,
if your out there reading this..
THANK YOU !
you made my day :D
that was so funny.
Posted By: DumDum (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Horrid. The McMahons are tired. Jericho has been buried after carrying the show. Legacy has been buried. Just f'n terrible
Posted By: Willie D (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 01:27 AM
again, congrats on RVD winning the title...
Posted By: RestleRob (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 01:55 AM
The final segment WAS awesome - until Shane O'Mac stole the thunder of the entire Raw roster. Forget for a moment that he beat up all of Legacy by himself. Orton had threatened to ruin WM25 for the whole roster and they just stood there! Yet Shane turned up and took them all out. If you promise "big things" then maybe they should have brought out Umaga (been used as a McMahon heavy hitter before).
Posted By: APinOz (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 07:29 AM
A gray old Shane giving Orton the beat down. Oh for fucks sake! Loved the "patty cake" type punches thrown.
Dear writers- When dealing with Vince and revenge, please allow Vince to make his own ownage in an administrative way. It is far more convincing and entertaining.
Thanks.... IDIOTS!
Posted By: brian (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 08:11 AM
my comment:
" i'm just not a big fan of the cookie-cutter babyface-smaller-guy-giant-killing underdog. mysterio does it better."
MissyNEVERWearssocksWithShoes's response:
"I know it's your own opinion. I respect that. Honestly, though...why do you feel it's better when Mysterio does it as opposed to Punk? Again, I'm *not* flaming you, just honestly want to know. For me, it's not believable when Mysterio beats , well, just about anybody. I know it's about suspension of disbelief, but it looks too fake. Not only because of his size, but because his moves do not look like they hurt. Punk's offense, on the other hand, looks more believable."
i'm not saying i'm a huge rey fan but the dude has a way better look. with all due respect, punk looks really greasy and there's just no other way to say it. i'm a mark for the masked wrestlers, hell i loved mil mascaras way back in the day. mysterio is NOT believable as a giant slayer but he's just more entertaining than punk playing basically the same character.
to the dude (or girl) that agrees with me on jericho looking dopey and the monotone being annoying, thank you.
for reference purposes, the kind of character i personally like in wrestling is exemplified by bad news brown. or evil eddie guerrero. or canadian superhero bret hart.
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 07:29 PM
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Posted By: urbanraida (Guest) on January 28, 2009 at 07:38 PM
Those were the most half-assed punches I've ever seen in my entire life.
Posted By: someone (Guest) on January 29, 2009 at 06:46 AM
I would have given my left testicle for Orton to punt Steph
Posted By: Brad (Guest) on January 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM
lol that's funny~!
seriously, orton shld win at mania and hold the title all year and the whole wwe roster is after him and the legacy. and simply priceless should have the tag titles too, beating off all comers. even the heels hate orton and legacy. so for the rest of the year, at each ppv, orton retains the title and can fight anyone. eg.
backlash April- orton v cena rematch
may- orton v shane o mac (no dq)
june - orton v jericho
summerslam july - orton v punk title vs title
aug- orton v hbk
sep - orton v jbl
oct - orton v kane
nov - orton v rey
dec - armagghedon hell in a cell orton v cena/hbk/jericho/punk/kane
ie. bury the whole roster ala cena. then i'll be happy.
Posted By: Guest#6130 (Guest) on January 29, 2009 at 09:01 AM
I know I'm going to get flamed to hell for this but I have GOT to say it...
I HATE Randy Orton! Always have and always will! I liked Mike Adamle better than Orton and Adamle is a hack! I feel like Orton's been shoved down my throat so much that I could go forever without ever seeing his "viper-like" stupid stare again!
WHEW! Now that THAT'S out of my system let the flaming begin!!
Posted By: Darrel (Guest) on January 29, 2009 at 09:04 PM
Don't worry, Darrel. I won't flame you. In fact, I agree with you. It's rare to find someone on here that is sensible and not repeatedly ejaculating to that generic-no-talent when he appears on-screen.
Randy Orton is a glorified Shawn Stasiak (whom by the way probably had more potential).
The fact that he's supposedly "the top heel in wrestling/ENTERTAINMENT" or the "greatest thing that's happened to wrestling!" basically either shows how hurt the industry and how desperate people are to find the best in the worst.
Posted By: Gary Soneji (Guest) on January 30, 2009 at 03:24 AM
you guys are both right about orton. he was interesting when he had the longer hair and was doing those weekly updates on the status of his injured arm. this 'predator' thing is annoying.
Posted By: someguy (Guest) on January 30, 2009 at 01:06 PM
pure rubbish
Posted By: freaky funk (Guest) on January 30, 2009 at 02:15 PM