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411's TNA Against All Odds Report 02.09.09
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 02.08.2009



Greetings, humanity! Welcome to the live coverage of TNA's Against All Odds with me, Chris Lansdell. What could be the most predictable PPV in recent memory has some serious work to do to live up to Genesis...will it manage it?

We start off with the MEM arriving earlier today, sans Sting, in a Hummer limo. Team 3D arrive together, and Sting arrives solo in a yellow Corvette.

Video package highlighting the feuds.

PYRO!

TNA X-Division Title Match: Alex Shelley © vs. Eric Young

Interewsting choice to open, I guess they don't want the MEM curtain-jerking. Shelley is out solo, whether or not it will stay that way is anyone's guess. Since the commentators are talking about Shelley winning one on his own, I doubt it.

Quick drop toehold by Young followed by a series of elbow drops and a clothesline taking Shelley to the floor. Young looks focused. Shelley slides in and Young slides out. Shelley goes out, Young goes in and hits the Chris Jericho triangle dropkick knocking Shelley off the paron to the floor. Slingshot crossbody by Young, he poses on the apron but Shelley takes his feet out and Young hits the apron face-first. Shots on the apron by Shelley, he shoves Young into the post and then hits a flying knee lift from the apron to the floor, driving Young to the railing. Young yanks Shelley off the apron, climbs up top and MISSES the attack from the top to the floor. Young eats some steel railing instead. He needed more iron in his diet anyway. Chop by Shelley and he poses. Hey, remember count-outs? Shelley toys with Young, whip to the corner, Young leapfrogs a charging Shelley and runs to the opposite corner, tries to come off with a crossbody but Shelley dropkicks him in the gut. Bow and arrow lock by Shelley, Young escapes so Shelley hits a kneelift to the gut, a big kick to the head and an elbow drop. Whip by Shelley, Young goes up and over the ropes to avoid the charge and hits a clothesline. Shelley avoids a shoulder, kicks Young hard in the chest and drapes him over the middle rope for a knee drop from the second rope. Shelley and Young both on the apron again, Young tries a DVD but Shelley escapes and tries a catapult. Blocked by Young, he backs up and tries a Stinger Splash on the apron but Shelley moves and EY hits the turnbuckle and goes to the floor.

Back inside, Shelley hits two charging back elbows in the corner, followed by a basement dropkick for 2. Stiff spine kick and Shelley applies a combo cobra clutch/back stretch over the knee. Young powers out abd gets a flapjack to Shelley! Young fights back with shots and a back elbow, inverted atmoic drop and a BIG roaring lariat for 2. Young to the top, Shelley catches him and hits a top rope jawbreaker! Damn, that'll loosen some chiclets. Shelley removes the elbow pad, hits a charging lariat in the corner and tries a second, blocked by Young! DVD try, Shelley rolls through but Young still has hold and rolls over! Sheley escapes again and hits a back kick to the gut, Young counters a run to the ropes and hits a springboard Sicillian Slice for 2. Young up top again, MOONSAULT misses, rollup from Shelley gets 2. Spinning STO gets 2 for Shelley. This is really getting good. Shelley measures Young, Shiranui countered to a wheelbarrow position! Shelley grabs the ropes, Young tries to kick him off but Shelley turns it into a standing Shiranui for 2! Shelley places Young on the top, Young turns it into the wheelbarrow position again! He tries to drop him but Shelley reverses to a bulldog! Frog Splash! 2.771!!! Again Shelley puts Young up top, Young picks him up for a DVD from the top, but Shelley blocks it! Young drops Shelley with a Stun Gun from the top! Damn this is counters to counters! Young decides to argue with the ref for some reason, Shelley gets a schoolboy and we have 3!

Winner and still X-Division champion: Alex Shelley via pinfall (Schoolboy)
Rating: ***¼ I wanted to give this a much better rating, but so much of the match was fought on the apron and it just felt wrong. TNA have sometimes said they have a no countout rule, and yet West and Tenay said several times that the ref was giving them a lot of leeway outside the ring. I don't foresee this being a long feud, hence the clean pin, it's really just a way to give Shelley a title defence before moving on to the next feud.

JB is backstage with Angle, telling him how the story has unfolded. Angle wants to make one thing clear: the only thing JB ever competed in was homecoming queen, but Angle and Sting are winners. Losing makes a part of them die. Will he and Sting get along? There is no doubt in his mind. They push each other, and regardless of who wins, the MEM will be closer than before. Now make like an amoeba and split.

Video package for Steiner-Petey.

Scott Steiner vs. Petey Williams

They still have identical beards. Sigh.

Steiner starts by showing off his strength. I hear Steiner is in Joe Torre's book too. Big scoop slam by Steiner, and then Steiner goes to work on Petey's arm. Petey reverses it and hits some kicks to the gut before applying a top wristlock. Steiner powers out but Petey hits a dropkick to the knee and a running cutter, followed by the missile dropkick for 1. According to West, Petey could have landed on his feet had Steiner moved. Sure, that happens all the time. Fuckhead. Steiner to the outside, baseball slide sends him to the rail. Steiner back in, Petey ducks a clothesline and hits a jawbreaker and a spin kick. Petey up top, but Steiner catches him and LAUNCHES him with a top rope belly to belly. "You still suck!" - Orlando. Whip, Steinerline, elbow drop, pin, roll off, pushups. I should set a macro for that spot. Whip, Steiner charges into Petey's boot but he reverses an attempted tornado DDT with pure power, just throwing Petey off. Gets 2 off the cover and pulls him up. Pateneted Steiner belly to belly gets 2 before he pulls him up again. Steiner drapes Petey over the ropes and hits an elevated Flatliner for 2 before AGAIN pulling him up. Haven't people been DQ'd for doing that 3 times? And now my picture has died. Sorry folks. It comes back with Petey trying the Destroyer, Steiner stands up and hits the Alabama Slam. Petey comes back with an enziguiri then a slingshot chest buster from the outside in. Petey is playing possum in the corner, Steiner throws him to the center of the ring and gets schoolboyed for 2. Chops by Petey, a charging forearm rocks Steiner and a dropkick sends him to the floor. Slingshot rana by Petey...NO!!! Caught and powerbombed by Steiner ON THE FLOOR! Ouch. Back inside and it's La-Z-Boy time! Steiner Recliner applied! Petey fights to the ropes and makes it. Steiner is favouring the leg and looks shocked at the competition level. Steiner sets for a suplex...STEINER MUTHAFUCKING SCREWDRIVER~!!!! YOU ARE MY FUCKING HERO FOR TAKING THAT PETEY!!! 3 count is elementary.

Winner: Scott Steiner by pinfall (Steiner fucking Screwdriver!!!)
Rating: ***½ Strangely I liked this better than the previous match, and not just because of the finish. Petey and Steiner had one of those rare matches where the contrasting styles actually improved the match quality, and Petey didn't look outclassed at all. I'd like to see them go again with Petey getting a rollup win.

Post-match Steiner kills Petey with a top rope Samoan Drop. He's not even Samoan, but SAMOA JOE IS HERE and he is! My bad. Joe is actually not here, just on the DixieTron, and Steiner is going to be his first victim.

JB is with Foley and...Sting? What in the name of GOD is Foley wearing? He looks like one of Taker's druids. Foley and Sting mutually fellate each other, Foley leaves and Sting says a whole lot of nothing.

Brutus Magnus vs Chris Sabin

Magnus' ring gear rocks. He should wear that spiked helmet and hit a Benoit headbutt on someone. Magnus cuts a great promo talking about stupid stereotypes of Brits and about how he's going to kill a bitch. SWERVE as it's Sabin, not Rhino as reported! Wait, I thought they were turning the Guns heel?

Magnus throws Sabin around a bit and Sabin now wants a test of strength. S-M-R-T. Sabin turns it into an arm wringer, reversed by Magnus. Sabin tries some flippy stuff so Magnus just throws him down. Sabin hits some chops and tries to take Magnus down with forearms off the ropes. Back kick by Sabin doubles him over, but Magnus doesn't stay that way and lifts Sabin HIGH overhead with a military press...Sabin escapes and hits some kicks to the knee, dropkick sends Magnus to the corner. A whip by Sabin is reversed, Sabin tries a crossbody but gets caught, stungunned and eats a high knee for 2. Magnus stretches Sabin on the ropes and lays in the boots, then steps on Sabin's throat. "Fire Russo!" - Orlando. Geez, that's hardly fair! Suplex by Magnus, a slam and Magnus comes over the top with a slingshot elbow! Not bad by the young man. Reverse chinlock and now we have a boring chant. Sabin fights out, they work some counters until Sabin hits an inverted atomic that Magnus almost botched. A couple of clotheslines by Sabin stagger the big man, springboard clothesline takes Magnus down for 2. Sabin goes for Cradle Shock, countered into a rear waistlock by Magnus. Sabin elbows out and tries a sunset flip, Magnus grabs him, lifts him and hits a stiff powerbomb for 2. Damn, they gave this guy some serious instruction. Sabin tricks Magnus into following him outside, then hits a springboiard crossbody from the ring to the outside! Sabin goes up top, Magnus crotches him and WHAM Tormentum (much better than the one he hit Thursday) gets 3 and the win.

Winner: Brutus Magnus by pinfall (Tormentum)
Rating: **3/4 It's easy to look good when you're up against Sabin, especially when you're a big dude. Still, Magnus showed some real skill and will only get better. With him, Morgan and Hernandez TNA have 3 big men who can all do impressive things. I'd like to see Magnus take on some larger guys before I anoint him as a great find, but he's certainly showing potential.

Lauren is with Team 3D, and they cut the typical "two faces about to fight but still want to be friends" promo.

TNA Knockouts Title Match: Awesome Kong © vs. ODB

ODB is wearing pink, yet somehow looks more masculine that JB. I would not do her with Cook's penis. If I could even find it. Kong has the Kong-tourage with her, despite being told to fight this one alone. At this point I would like to remind you that Kong kills bitches dead. Ah, here's Cornette to evict the Kong-tourage. Either they leave, or ODB gets the belt by forfeit. Kong goes to annihilate Cornette but ODB attacks! They brawl on the floor, when they get in the ring ODB is in control. She tries a scoop slam but can't do it, Kong tries one but ODB slips out, hits some kicks to the back of the knee and gets a facebuster for 2. Forearms by ODB, she goes to the second rope but Kong kills a bitch with a clothesline as she comes off the ropes. Whip by Kong and a chargin avalanche. Some kid in the crowd just did a Nelson Muntz impression. Gold, I tell you. Kong has ODB by the hair, she tries to fight back but Kong just throws her down and then applies a bear hug. ODB uses the bell-ringer escape, ODB tries the slam again and gets the Andre squash spot. 2 count for Kong. Oh snap Kong is going up top! ODB moves and stays three dimensional for the time being. ODB blocks some shots and hits some of her own, tries a leaping clothesline but Kong will not go down. Turnbuckle shots by OPDB, another slam try and SHE GOT IT!!! Now the boot and the legdrop? Guess not. 2 count only off the slam for ODB, the slam seems to have hurt her just as much. BACKFIST misses, Kong blocks a clothesline, busts some Implants and that's all she wrote. Let's got to Blaccu-Weather meteorologist Ollie Williams for the result of that one:


Kong killed a bitch dead!

Thanks Ollie. Now this!

Winner:, and still Knockouts champion: Awesome KONG~! via pinfall (Implant Buster)
Rating: Wow, no. It was mercifully short, and the bodyslam was a nice way to both hearken back to Hogan-Andre and to put over ODB as a physical threat to Kong, but ODB is just not very good in the ring right now. I don't know why TNA took 3 people who COULD look credible as threats to Kong and put them in her stable, but they did and now they are left with no challengers.

Lauren has Sting as Brother Ray lectures him on respect and the MEM being big bad meanies.

TNA Legends Championship: Booker T vs. Shane Sewell

Sewell is out in his ref's vest again. Just let him be a full-time wrestler already! Booker looks completely unconcerned. Sharmell was MADE to play a stuck-up bitch.

Booker does some stretching in the corner before locking up. It's important to stay supple at his age. Booker believes Sewell is scared. They finally lock up and Sewell backs Booker to the corner. Another lockup, Booker starts on the arm and Sewell reverses it, Booker flees to the ropes. Another lockup, Booker backs Sewell to the corner and of course we do not get a clean break. Knees, chops and a kne to the head take Sewell down. Stomping time for Booker, then he rips at Sewell's face. Arm twist and kick by Booker, Book End gets 2.808! Sewell is reffing up! He takes a few shots, ducks the side kick and starts laying in the bombs! 10 punches in the corner! Clotheslines a-plenty! Scoop slam and a bulldog! Sewell measures Booker, he comes off the ropes but Sharmell trips him! Axe kick! 3!

Winner, and still TNA Legends Champion: Booker T via pinfall (Axe kick after Sharmell-terference)
Rating: The evening started so well, and now the suckage has commenced. I thought for sure these two could have a decent match, but what we got was an extended squash that should have been done on Impact. Sewell's OK, but he'd better have more to offer or he'll get old fast.

Post-match, Booker starts to trash talk Sewell, but AJ STYLES! He blitzes Booker and sends him packing! Booker retreats, AJ has the belt and a mic. He grew up dirt poor, and what got him from there to here was a dream to be the best wrestler in the world. There's about 4 ahead of you sunshine. Not just that, but to be a legend. A legend is about being rich, it's about the fans spending their hard-earned money and knowing that AJ Styles gives 100% every night. Cliché much? There are pieces, pieces, pieces of him scattered on every Ashlee Simpson album, err in every arena across the country, and now it's time for him to step up and be a legend.

Morgan is with Lauren, who thinks that Morgan shouldn't do this because Abyss still cares about him. Next, on Ricki Lake. Morgan cuts a violent little promo and threatens to beat up even Lauren if she comes to ringside.

Abyss vs Matt Morgan

Hour and a half to go, 3 matches left. Once again Morgan reminds us of his heelitude by knocking a sign out of a kid's hand. Abyss is out with a bag of something undoubtedly unpleasant. To my knowledge this is NOT a no DQ match. West and Tenay talk about Morgan having surgery less than a week ago. So umm...why not scrap the match?

The charge and collide right away. Double goozle! Morgan breaks it with a knee and beats Abyss down. Morgan takes him to the turnbuckles, Abyss no-sells and beats Morgan down in the corner. The ref tries to stop him but bolts as Abyss turns on him. Morgan tries a Carbon Footprint, Abyss ducks and Morgan crotches himself. Abyss goes udner the ring and emerges with a Singapore cane, which the ref confiscates. Whip by Abyss, he drops his head and eats a Morgan boot. Morgan charges but Abyss takes him over the top. On the outside, shots by Abyss but Morgan comes back and takes Abyss into the fans. Typical crowd brawl now. Abyss thrown into the wall, Morgan chokes him with both hands, then chokes him over the stair rail. They're heading upstairs now. Hey, remember count outs? Abyss takes Morgan into a chainlink fence at the top of the stairs and pounds at the head of Morgan. Morgan tries to flee down the stairs, Abyss follows and gets caught with a back kick by Morgan. A whip is reversed, Abyss is back in control and still in the crowd. Wait, they're heading for the ring! Or not, more slugging by Abyss on the outside and now Abyss is throwing weaponry into the ring. He comes in with a chair, Rudy Charles takes it away and Morgan nails the Carbon Footprint. Back elbows in the corner, running avalanche and a Russian leg sweep gets 2.Morgan chokes Abyss on the top rope, runs the ropes and jumps onto Abyss. Impressive. Legdrop on the apron by Morgan. He goes up top and hits a HUGE crossbody for 2. Dropkick by Morgan! Again a 2 count. Abyss with a sudden kneelift and some big right hands, he goes for a whip but Morgan vaults over the top and catches Abyss coming in with an elbow. Morgan up top, CAUGHT with a goozle! Morgan fights it off and both men are down after a double clothesline. Abyss is up first, shots and a clothesline followed by an avalanche. Side slam gets 2 for Abyss. He signals for the bag and the crowd want it. Morgan stops that idea with a weak-looking clothesline. The ref throws the bag to the outside and it opened, revealing tacks. DOH! We have a ref bump, Abyss goes for the bag but Morgan has a chair! BAM! Morgan revives the ref...1...2...2.881! Morgan tries another chair shot, goozle! Chokeslam! 1...2...2.7496! Abyss sets the chair on Morgan's chest, Abyss goes for the flying biscuit but OH FUCK ME Morgan turns the chair on it's side and Abyss lands nuts first. Damn. Chokeslam on the chair by Morgan gets 2! Morgan has the chair again, Abyss with kneelifts and now HE has the chair. Morgan pulls the ref in front of the chair shot! Black Hole Slam! No ref though...here's Slick! 1...2...2.901! Low blow by Morgan, he goes for the Footprint again...Black Hole Slam! 1...2...3!

Winner: Abyss via pinfall (Black Hole Slam)
Rating: ** Nothing but respect for Morgan for working after surgery, but it really hurt the match. A lot of his blows looked weak, and you could almost feel Abyss holding back. The tacks being spilled outside probably changed the finishe too. I hate crowd brawls where nothing happens, and I hate regular matches where weapons get involved. Oh yeah, and back to the count out thing again! The feud is not over, and I hope the next match is better, because this was a majot disappointment. Monster's Ball next time please!

Here come the tacks! Abyss rips off Morgan's shirt...ah, that's why he wrestled with it on, he's strapped up like a woman about to peg her man. That will be the surgery wound then. Abyss tries for the Black Hole into the tacks but Morgan escapes.

JB is in the MEM dressing room. Angle gives Sting a pep talk and they hug. Snap that for Hallmark, it won't happen again. Angle tells Nash to keep an eye on Sting. An eye might be the only thing on Nash that isn't surgically repaired.

TNA World Tag Team Title Match: Beer Money Inc. © vs. Lethal Consequences

Creed has his shoulder strapped heavily, selling Thursday's injury. Storm is on the Boozer Cruiser, and Roode is on a keg! Roode Beer Float~! Is there no end to the awesome?

Lethal to start with Roode. Roode with a headlock and then a shoulder block. Again to the ropes, Lethal with an elbow this time. Lethal tries to take control with jabs, poke to the eyes by Roode and a whip is reversed, back body drop by Lethal! Another one for Storm! Tag to creed and a pair of double drop kicks leave the faces standing tall in the ring. The heels recuperate and come back in with Storm facing Creed. Kneelifts from the lockup by Storm, whip reversed and a hip toss by creed followed by a scoop slam. Whip reversed, Storm drops his head and Creed rides over the top and hits a headscissors. Basement dropkick, Creed steps off Storm's back and hits an elbow drop. Roode in and right into a drop toehold. Tag to Lethal, they hang Roode in the tree of woe and whip Storm into him. Storm goes down and both Lethal and Creed slide to the outside and yank Storm's legs so his crotch rams into Roode's face. That also snapped Roode's head back but that small fact is overlooked as Roode falls onto Storm and they are in an unfortunate position. Fun spot but typical Russo. Dare I even say...vintage Russo? Roode takes a gulp of beer, Storm slaps him on the chest and Roode spits beer in Storm's face. Stereo baseball slides and the beer is down! The beer is down! Roode is back in, Lethal with a double axehandle from the top gets 1. Lethal goes for a rollup, Roode gets the blind tage and Storm hgits a bulldog to regain momentum. 2 count after some heel tactics. Tag to Storm, double whip a scoop slam and a pair of elbow drops gets 2. Tag back to Storm, combo spinebuster/lungblower gets 2 but Creed breaks it. Roode in off the heel switch. Tag to Storm who applies the rear chinlock. Lethal fights out, ducks a clohtesline but eats a high knee. Tag to Roode who baits Creed before choking Lethal. Lethal again fights back, whip and a charge, Lethal gets elevated to the apron but that goes nowhere as Storm comes over and they hit a double superplex...wait for it...wait for it...
Csonka: BEEEER!
Lansdell: MONEY!

So awesome. Tag to Storm, both men drop their heads and Lethal is able to make Beer Money knock each other down! He ducks under the double clotheslinbe and Creed is in! Dropkick to Storm! Punches everywhere! Double clothesline! Crossbody from the top to Storm gets 2, broken up by Roode. Lethal and Roode in one corner, Creed climbs the ropes and Jackie distracts him long enough for Storm to push him off. He landed shoulder-first on the rail. Storm goes to work on the outside, then throws him in. Roode applies an armbar, Storm tags in and comes off the top to the arm. The heels take turns going to work on the injured arm of Creed. Creed tries to fight back but fails. Double underhook slam by Storm gets 2. Tag to Roode and they both beat down on Creed in the corner. Lethal comes charging in and hits a noggin knocker on Beer Money! He drags Creed to his corner and tags in! Double missile dropkick! Clotheslines, dropkicks, cartwheels...he's a house~! En~! FUEGO~! Hiptoss, cartwheel and low drpokick to Roode! Cover gets 2, Storm breaks it up but hits his partner! Whip to Storm, enziguiri! Lethal up top, Roode follows but gets pushed off and hits the elbow! 1...2...Storm breaks it! Creed has Storm, Lethal has Roode. Jackie comes in and gets bodydropped by Lethal! LETHAL COMBO! 1...2...2.9005! Creed and Lethal have Roode...double flapjack!!! 1...2...2.948! Jackie hands Storm a chain! Roode is whipped in, Lethal goes for a monkey flip but Roode holds on and Storm creams him with the loaded fist! 1...2...3!

Winners and still TNA Tag Team Champions: Beer Money Inc by pinfall (loaded fist)
Rating: ***½ You sometimes forget that Beer Money have fought off LAX, Team 3D, Abyss and Morgan and now Lethal Consequences, 4 different teams with totally different styles, and they were able to get good matches out of all of them. They can up the speed for the small guys and slug it out with the big ones. Lethal and Creed did their part, and the result was the Match of the Night for me. The final rating was hurt by the childish, yet somewhat amusing, Russo-style antics in the early going.

Video package for the main event. Are you ready?

TNA World Title Match: Sting © vs. Brother Ray vs. Kurt Angle vs. Brother Devon

Angle is out, then Team 3D, and finally Sting. SUPAH SPECIAL RING ANNOUNCING! This should be challenging.

We have a four-way staredown to start. Ray goes for Angle, then switches to Sting and takes him outside. Big shoulder block by Devon gets 1. Devon mounts Angle and lays in the rights. Double shoulderblock as Ray comes back in, 2 count for Devon on Angle. Clothesline for Sting, Ray gets 2 on the cover. Angle attacks from behind, shoving Devon into Ray and MEM are on top. Angle has Ray. MEM try to whiop 3D into each other, they counter and clothesline the heels down. 3D are in the ring alone now. Ray lays down, Devon covers him! Angle breaks it up at 2. Brilliant. Double flapjack to Sting. Ray and Devon alone again, they work some waistlock reversals then shrug and haul off on each other. Boot, scoop and slam by Ray, Devon stands up and slams Ray. Double clothesline and both men are up. Hardly Sabin-Shelley but the crowd liked it. The MEM are in now and take control. Angle takes Devon to the stairs, Sting take Ray to the rail. Ray fights back against Sting while Devon chokes Angle. Ray tries to slam Stings head into the announce table, Sting blockss and hits some stiff shots then throws Ray into the fans. Devon takes Angle's face to the table! Devon chokes Angle with a camera cable, we hear a chair shot but see nothing. Back in the ring now, Sting has the Deathlock! Angle has the Ankle Lock! Ray kicks Angle off and he runs into Sting! Nicely choreographed. Team 3D back in control, Ray tries to go for the worst figure 4 ever but changes his mind. Angle got busted open on the collision. Ray DOES now lock in a crappy figure four, Devon has a Boston Crab, of sorts, on Angle. Angle crawls over and covers Sting while both are in the hold! Brilliant. They work the spot again before Angle breaks the crab. He goes for another pin on Sting and then decides to break up the figure four. Kick to Ray blocked, enziguiri by Angle! Sting and Angle alone in the ring, Angle goes right for Sting's knee. Repeated kicks to the back of the knee by Angle now. I just noticed how small Angle looks. Sting is coming back with a series of clotheslines! Stinger Splash! Deathdrop countered into an ankle lock! Team 3D break it up, double whip to Angle, he holds the ropes and Sting attacks from behind with a double clothesline. KICK WHAM Angle Slam to Sting! 1...2...No! Saving Grace to Angle! 1...2...2.894! Uranage to Devon by Ray! 1...2...no! Why did he kick out? BIG DDT by Sting on Ray gets 2 more. Angle throws Sting outside, then goes for the 10-count punches on Devon. Ray breaks it up...Doomsday Device! 2 count before Sting breaks it. Chop to Sting by Ray, they set for the 3D but Sting kicks Devon and gets a back suplex on Ray for 2. Stinger Splash misses, scoop slam by Ray and Devon goes up for the Wazzup...No! Angle runs up with the super belly to belly! Straps down! Ray takes Angle to the floor with a clothesline! Scorpion Deathdrop!!! 1...2...3???

Winner, and still TNA World Heavyweight champion: Sting
Rating: **¼ Huh? Sting's knees are shot, right? So WHY is he still champion? WHY do we need more split teasing? The match itself was better than it had a right to be, they pulled some nicely-written spots and it never felt dragged out, but I just don't get the booking. Even for Russo.

Foley and his horrible jacket head to the ring to present Sting with the belt. Foley and Sting shake hands as Angle looks anguished.



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Fun to read, should be fun to watch too. Kudos all around. As for the maint event booking...ah well, some things never change

Posted By: christy (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:29 PM

 
 
Decent show, tonight. I'd give it 6.75/10.00

Posted By: Sid (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:33 PM

 
 
SHELLY WINS-GOOD, PETEY-STIENER-V GOOD MATCH,WANNA SEE REMATCH AT DESTINATION X,SABIN LOST TO THAT JOKE?-WHY?, KONG DOES NOT HAVE ANY CHALLENGERS LEFT, ODB SHOULD HAVE WON, BOOKER/SHANE-JOKE, ABYSS/MORGAN-DISAPPOINTING, BMI/LC- MATCH OF NITE, STING WINS, HAPPY CAUSE JOE OR AJ SOULD BEAT HIM.DISAPPOINTING PPV.........AND I AM A MASSIVE TNA FAN.

Posted By: DAM (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:38 PM

 
 
Wow....another great pay per view by TNA? Hahaha that comment totally reaked of sarcasm for those who can't tell. TNA blows the PP

Posted By: Nick (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:39 PM

 
 
I wish I had four hands, so I could give this show four thumbs down!

Posted By: Rick James (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:40 PM

 
 
I was pleasantly surprised by this ppv. Shelley Vs Young was a terrific match with plenty of cool spots and nice reversals. I just wish Shelley would have won with that awesome frogspalsh he hit Young with late in the match instead of the schoolboy(it seems like every X division match ends that way)I was shocked by how good Steiner Vs Petey was. Petey got plenty of offense (and Steiner sold like crazy) Hell Petey even got out of the Steiner recliner.(by powering his way accross the ring to get to the ropes) I personally wish he would have won even in a fluky way. It was cool though to see Steiner use the Steiner screwdriver for the first time in a long time. It sure looks like Joe and Steiner will face each other at Destination X.I was disapointed to see Sabin be the designated job guy for Brutus Magnus. Magnus is very very green. He is good on the mic and has his heel presence but he's not yet ready. Sabin tried but it wasn't much of a match. Odb Vs Kong was better than their prior matches but you can tell Kong is nowhere near 100%. Imo Odb should have won the title(and that way given Kong time off) leading ODB to feud with Angelina Love in the meanwhile. Booker T vs Sewell was easily the worst match of the night. Sewell wasn't over at all(unliuke Impact on Thursday) Booker continues to go through the motions barely selling barely giving any effort and as far as the finish well who cares. Great to see A.J back if anyone can pull a good match out of Booker it's him. Morgan Vs Abyss imo was a fairly good brawl. Morgan clearly wasn't 100% due to a staph infectation but he worked hard and showed great athleticsm. He if booked correctly could be a huge star. It was great to see Abyss back to his old self. I am sure they'll have a weapons match at the next ppv and it should be good. The tag title match was terrific. Beer Money is as good as it gets. They just put on very good matches time in and time out. They hit some cool tag team moves and their arm, work on Creed reminded me of the Andersons. Creed and Lethal hit some great spots and looked good coming outta this match. I am hoping this feud continues if not let Beer Money move on to L A X (who aren't doing anything at the present time) The Main Event was built up very well all night long. It was a somewhat disapointing match with an abrupt ending. You expect better in a match involving Angle. I am not sure why all 4 guys were in there at the same time. It took away some from the match too. I was hoping Angle was gonna win the title tonight. All in all better ppv than expected and some interesting developments as well.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:49 PM

 
 
bad show

Posted By: nd (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:51 PM

 
 
decent show i would say a 6/10

Posted By: Guest#2239 (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:52 PM

 
 
One of the worst shows in TNA history. How on EARTH could you give the shitfest that was Steiner vs. Peaty ANYTHING more than a * rating. Who the fuck cares if he did the Steiner screwdriver the match was terrible and Peaty was fucking BURIED

Posted By: Guest#1570 (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:57 PM

 
 
The sound on my satellite sucked DISH!!!!! Good decent show MEM still looks strong I look for a 3D swerve w/a beatdown on Stink!

Posted By: black Like me (Guest)  on February 08, 2009 at 11:58 PM

 
 
I missed the first couple of matches but from what i read they sound decent. I had a feeling that Scott and Petey would surpass expectations because i was satisfied with their past matches. by the time i started watching, Kong and ODB was on and i was not pleased by the abruptness of it. Sewell and Booker T was a waste. Morgan and Abyss should've been a lot better but given the injury, i guess it wasn't meant to be. Beer Money and Lethal Consequences delivered higher than I thought it would and I had a pretty high bar set for them. The main event was just about what I expected. I hoped for a Brother Ray dive but i didn't get one. Gotta see the first hour.

Posted By: bighustle (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:01 AM

 
 
very definition of a mediocre show IMO... X Title, Legends were both mediocre... didnt really like Magnus or knockouts... HW, Abyss/Morgan and the tag was enjoyable

Posted By: chad (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:02 AM

 
 
Well, it's a shame there aren't any MUST SEE matches, but I'll still probably watch this...

Posted By: TAT (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:11 AM

 
 
Hey, this is the Against All Odds REPORT, right? So report on the action, and leave your funny comments to the end of match wrap-up if necessary. I get that you're trying to be entertaining, but the when your personal comments start to overshadow the actual reporting, you're not doing your job. Ashlee Simpson, Ricki Lake, pegging? WTF?

Posted By: Skeleton (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:11 AM

 
 
Steiner Screwdriver makes this a fucking million out of ten.

Posted By: ButchReedMark (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:23 AM

 
 
I wish I had four hands, so I could give this show four thumbs down!

Posted By: Rick James (Guest) on February 08, 2009 at 11:40 PM

LMAO!!!!!!!


Posted By: Bobby (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:27 AM

 
 
Beer Money Inc. is becoming my favorite tag team of all time. Hilarious stuff with the Keg Scooter to go with the Boozer Cruiser. I really liked Americas Most Wanted, but Roode/Storm > AMW.

Posted By: Guest#2718 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:36 AM

 
 
Wow....another great pay per view by TNA? Hahaha that comment totally reaked of sarcasm for those who can't tell. TNA blows the PP

Posted By: Nick (Guest) on February 08, 2009 at 11:39 PM




I wish I had four hands, so I could give this show four thumbs down!

Posted By: Rick James (Guest) on February 08, 2009 at 11:40 PM


wow two retards make fools out of themselves go splonge yourself over Survivor series and the royal rumble.


Posted By: Guest#9337 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:38 AM

 
 
Sting as TNA Champ (for 4 months and counting) right now is a complete joke. I've always been a fan of the guy but he hasn't wrestled a good match in almost ten years. His only decent ones he's completely carried in.

The Scorpion Death Drop? Come on. It's like Hogan's legdrop. It looks incredibly lame and is completely unbelievable as a finisher in 2009.

Now Sting's getting in the ring with Angle who is good but whose body isn't healthy enough that he should be carrying main events. Team 3D? Ugh. They've never been interesting or entertaining. Way to promote the new guys, TNA. This angle is reeking of New Blood/Millionaire's Club.

At the very least a heel Sting could have been somewhat interesting. He actually has believable motivation. Instead he's stuck in tweener land while Angle does all of the work.

If TNA doesn't put the title on Hernandez or Christopher Daniels CLEANLY by Lockdown this angle has gone from massive potential to complete fail faster than any in history.

The PPV produced some decent matches but if the storylines can produce any reasons for me to CARE if the matches are good then it's a moot point.

I want to love you TNA. Why must you make it so hard?


Posted By: Ron Mexico (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:39 AM

 
 
One of the worst shows in TNA history. How on EARTH could you give the shitfest that was Steiner vs. Peaty ANYTHING more than a * rating. Who the fuck cares if he did the Steiner screwdriver the match was terrible and Peaty was fucking BURIED

Posted By: Guest#1570 (Guest) on February 08, 2009 at 11:57 PM
clearly you didn't see the match. Steiner sold like crazy for petey. This was far from the worst ppv go watch the '08 survivor series for the worst ppv.


Posted By: Guest#3828 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:40 AM

 
 
very definition of a mediocre show IMO... X Title, Legends were both mediocre... didnt really like Magnus or knockouts... HW, Abyss/Morgan and the tag was enjoyable

Posted By: chad (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Agreed with you on Legends title match and you're being kind by calling it medicore. Imo Sherlley Vs Sabin and the tag title match were both fantastic matches and imo the matches of the night.


Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:43 AM

 
 
JB
08 Feb 2009, 17:53
Robvanflan,

In other news, it was a pretty solid PPV for TNA, especially considering two of the best workers in Joe and Styles weren't on the card. No shocking endings or turns, but solid action throughout including a very good opener. For a company known for blowing through things far too quickly, I have to give TNA credit for having a slow build to Sting's eventual outing from the Mafia.


Posted By: jb (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:48 AM

 
 
Great PPV and a PPV that was much better than it had a a right to be. TNA has shown vast improvement in that it isn't rushing things the way they used to. When Sting and Angle hooked up tonight it told me that is the match they want to see. Steiner proved once again that he is a great heel. Young/Shelley was a great opener. Kong/ODB was very good. As I said, the PPV was very good and it proved that if TNA doesn't have to swerve themselves out of business. Just give wrestling fans good solid stuff and they'll be there. I enjoyed the whole show.

Posted By: Brian Sandusky (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:50 AM

 
 
wow i was 6 for 6 on my first 6 predictions would have been a perfect 7 for 7 if they wouldn't have changed the ending for some strange reason. i don't understand where they are going with the Sting thing. this was to be the night he turned on MEM. i guess they are going to continue with this teasing a little bit longer. i hope they don't give it away on free TV because that would be just lame.

Posted By: rex (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 12:53 AM

 
 
WHOOO! Crappus Maximus!!! WHOOO!! Maybe when WWE fires Jericho for attacking fans he can get a job with the other hasbeens!!1 WHOOWHOO!!! the little I saw of this show sucked, true story.

Posted By: Groot (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 01:00 AM

 
 
wow two retards make fools out of themselves go splonge yourself over Survivor series and the royal rumble.

Posted By: Guest#9337 (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 12:38 AM

mad some else has an opinion that's not yours? get a life just because some dose not like a show you do not need to bash them


Posted By: Throws (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 01:17 AM

 
 
From a booking perspective, it makes sense to keep the belt on Sting.

I'm guessing that they want to have two blow-offs at Lockdown. Champion vs Challenger in a title match and the rest of the MEM vs the Frontline in a Wargames-style match.

If they gave the belt to Angle, they would have to either have Joe vs Angle #6,000,003, or put the belt back on Jarrett in Jarrett vs Angle III. Neither of these are great ideas (and would give the writers/posters at 411 even more to bitch about)

The Sting/Joe rematch would be a better blowoff from a booking perspective with Joe winning. Then have AJ/Daniels (brought in as a "mystery partner" when one of Team 3D is taken out)/Rhyno/Jarrett vs Booker/Angle/Nash/Steiner


Posted By: Jimbob Jones (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 01:39 AM

 
 
And once again The Frontline looks like a bunch of schmucks. So did Joe get to show his pretty new make up?

Posted By: The Frontline Sucks (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 02:01 AM

 
 
Great report man. Its wrestling. Dont need to take it so serious. We need funny comments in the report.

The show was 5/10. Dont compare it with WWE. Compare it with its shelf only.

Best match. 110% the tag team match. Beer Money, are way ahead from AMW.


Posted By: The Greek (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 02:14 AM

 
 
Great report man. Its wrestling. Dont need to take it so serious. We need funny comments in the report.

The show was 5/10. Dont compare it with WWE. Compare it with its shelf only.

Best match. 110% the tag team match. Beer Money, are way ahead from AMW.

Posted By: The Greek (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 02:14 AM
you realize that 2 out of the last WWE ppv's has been as rancid as it gets my God.


Posted By: Guest#3012 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 02:51 AM

 
 
WHOOO! Crappus Maximus!!! WHOOO!! Maybe when WWE fires Jericho for attacking fans he can get a job with the other hasbeens!!1 WHOOWHOO!!! the little I saw of this show sucked, true story.
could you be a bigger scumbag? Oh yeah which young wrestlers are the WWE pushing Orton and? Yeah thought so. Enjoy HHH contuing (ten years and counting) burial of the WWE roster because it's never stopping.


Posted By: Guest#7381 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 02:55 AM

 
 
mad some else has an opinion that's not yours? get a life just because some dose not like a show you do not need to bash them

Posted By: Throws (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 01:17 AM

NO HE'S MAD THAT you can't spell my man.


Posted By: Guest#4259 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 02:56 AM

 
 
mad some else has an opinion that's not yours? get a life just because some dose not like a show you do not need to bash them

Posted By: Throws (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 01:17 AM

Just because some people don't like TNA it doesn't mean they have to come on here and bash a PPV they didn't even watch.


Posted By: Guest#3682 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 03:57 AM

 
 
Sting's dropping the title at Destination X or LockDown...I hope.

Alright now that Joe is back, and AJ had a night off its time to put them back in the drivers seat.

Overall this was a good show 6.5/10 maybe. Beer Money is just fucking awesome and I never thought of the diffrent style tag teams Beer Money faced and had good-great matches with. Definantly the best tag team on TV right now.


Posted By: Guest#0950 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 04:41 AM

 
 
bad show i give it 3.75/11

Posted By: Guest#2925 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 06:15 AM

 
 
Interesting how TNA didn't pull the triger on two title changes that need to happen - did someone sedate Russo? In the past Russo would have had both titles change, Steiner and Williams become tag team partners then make the tag belts match a triple threat, had Brutus Magnus squashed by Samoa Joe and then have Joe and Styles defect to the MEM (whilst Sting and Nash join the Frontline).

I shall look forward to watching this on Bravo 2 come Wednesaday night.


Posted By: JAK (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 06:26 AM

 
 
Agreed with you on Legends title match and you're being kind by calling it medicore. Imo Sherlley Vs Sabin and the tag title match were both fantastic matches and imo the matches of the night.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 12:43 AM
------------

please tell me, where did you see shelley vs sabin on this PPV ?


Posted By: tmw (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 07:31 AM

 
 
well the X-Division and the Tag Title matches were really entertaining, as was Steiner vs Petey.

Brutus Magnus was also watchable thanks to Sabin

Everyone knew that the Legends Title match would be nothing but a placeholder. I'm glad that AJ is going to feud with Booker, could be very good. (as well that this "Legends" Title could actually mean a tiny bit with AJs promo stating he want to become a Legend)

Joe and Steiner had some good matches in the past, so I'll give this transitional phase until Nash is back a try!

Still I don't know why they kept the Title on Sting, I don't want to get 2 more months of teasing before the payoff at one of TNA's "big" PPVs at Lockdown.


Posted By: tmw (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 07:41 AM

 
 
"Huh? Sting's knees are shot, right? So WHY is he still champion?"

I thought the same at first, but I think since aj and joe are going different directions, we're primed to see angle vs sting 1 on 1 which is one of the few matches that hasn't been done a whole lot, then whoever it may be on the frontline take the title at lockdown. as for the ppv, could've went without the women's and legend's championship match. Everything else was decent to good. Oh and I thought petey came down on his neck after the steiner screwdriver, looked nasty


Posted By: c.j (Registered)  on February 09, 2009 at 08:39 AM

 
 
EPIC FAIL!

Posted By: Guest#3349 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 09:11 AM

 
 
WHOOO! Crappus Maximus!!! WHOOO!! Maybe when WWE fires Jericho for attacking fans he can get a job with the other hasbeens!!1 WHOOWHOO!!! the little I saw of this show sucked, true story.
could you be a bigger scumbag? Oh yeah which young wrestlers are the WWE pushing Orton and? Yeah thought so. Enjoy HHH contuing (ten years and counting) burial of the WWE roster because it's never stopping.

Posted By: Guest#7381 (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 02:55 AM

Yes because TNA would never keep the belt on a broken down hasbeen like Sting and have him roll through legit challengers like Samoa Joe..Oh wait. Well at least TNA would never let a rising star like Petey Williams get jobbed out by the roided up and can barely Scott Steiner..oh wait. BTW HHH bashing is so 2003


Posted By: Paul (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 10:38 AM

 
 
This was a throwaway PPV, much like No Way Out is going to be, so all of those hating on it need to put it in perspective. Not every match is going to be a 4* classic, but to build up to a bigger payoff for a very exciting angle, and Against All Odds did just that.

The Abyss-Morgan feud got off to a good start, and the result was unexpected. I think that Morgan will get the next win and then finish this off at Lockdown.

As for Beer Money, they are the best tag team going in wrestling today! As Landsell stated they do a great job of mixing up their styles with any opponent. The only question is who can challenge them for the belts now.

I also enjoyed the respective returns of AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. THIS is how the Frontline will begin to end the war. Having Styles go after Booker T's Legends championship will be interesting, let's just hope that somehow it will allow Christopher Daniels to return.

Destination X is shaping up to be an interesting PPV while we wait for Wrestlemania.


Posted By: Ryder (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 11:04 AM

 
 
they need Aj, Joe and Daniels... badly.

Posted By: tully (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 11:27 AM

 
 
Sting rocks

Posted By: refugio (Registered)  on February 09, 2009 at 11:29 AM

 
 
Whatever they're doing with the MEM, I hope they have the sense to stretch it out until Lockdown.

Posted By: Tyg (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 01:06 PM

 
 
Seriously, at this point, do the Frontline have any credibility left? They have literally jobbed every PPV match to the MEM since the angle began. Russo 101.

However, seeing the STEINER SCREWDRIVER~! for the first time in like a millennium was awesome.


Posted By: Ramsey (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 02:18 PM

 
 
I was at the PPV and can tell you that was a horrible show. I love TNA but this was just horrible.

Posted By: Sully (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 03:19 PM

 
 
very funny stuff to read !!!
Foley and his horrible jacket LMAO
he looks like taker druids !!!


Posted By: Maxime Gravel (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 03:50 PM

 
 
please tell me, where did you see shelley vs sabin on this PPV ?

Posted By: tmw (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 07:31 AM
Oops I meant Shelley Vs Young. Imo it was a terrific match and right there with the tag title match for the match of the night.


Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 04:48 PM

 
 
EPIC FAIL!

Posted By: Guest#3349 (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 09:11 AM

thanks for adding so much.


Posted By: Guest#5021 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 04:52 PM

 
 
Yes because TNA would never keep the belt on a broken down hasbeen like Sting and have him roll through legit challengers like Samoa Joe..Oh wait. Well at least TNA would never let a rising star like Petey Williams get jobbed out by the roided up and can barely Scott Steiner..oh wait. BTW HHH bashing is so 2003

Posted By: Paul (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 10:38 AM

nothing much has changed since 2003 in the WWE.


Posted By: Guest#0308 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 04:54 PM

 
 
Can't judge because I won't see ity until Wednesday but there are two things that bother me.

1. Seems a bit odd to keep the titles on Sting and Kong when both are carrying injuries.

2. Why, when someone makes a fair criticism of TNA, that means they are jacking off to John Cena and Triple H. Get ready, because this might shock you, it is possible to fairly critcise BOTH companies. Why do you have to be so defensive? Do you have shares in TNA or something? You realise TNA will get on fine wihout you calling someone out over their opinion, right?


Posted By: ravenite (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 05:53 PM

 
 
Foley did present the belt to Sting; only, Sting already had his belt in hand. Was kinda odd.

Posted By: LatinoMeat (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 06:11 PM

 
 
. Why, when someone makes a fair criticism of TNA, that means they are jacking off to John Cena and Triple H. Get ready, because this might shock you, it is possible to fairly critcise BOTH companies. Why do you have to be so defensive? Do you have shares in TNA or something? You realise TNA will get on fine wihout you calling someone out over their opinion, right?

I can't speak for everyone but when it's fair criticism I have no issue. The vast majority of the negative comments are epic fail! or I didn't see the ppv but worst ppv ever when you've got trolls like that they deserve to get bashed.


Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 07:04 PM

 
 
So, the MEM is being used to get sting over? I thought it would be used to get some younger talent over. A few years from now when the older talent is too old to wrestle. No one is going to care about it's younger talent.

Posted By: iomis (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 07:22 PM

 
 
Guest 0308
Nothing changed since 2003 huh? You must have missed CM Punk's sustained push to the world title, Jericho's awesome heel work, the likes of Kofi Kingston, Ted Dibiase and Cody Rhodes, Evan Bourne, get heavily focused on Raw over big muscle-heads, Jeff Hardy win a title over another muscle-head in Kozlov. Yeah, WWE sure haven't changed.
HHH is hugely over with the crowds, you may argue that's due to his being married to the boss' daughter. Fact is though, he was main eventing before they even got together, the argument means nothing.
Joe and AJ should be THE faces of the Frontline, not Team 3D. It's pathetic to suggest otherwise....the WWE would not misuse them this badly in their current climate. If Evan Bourne can break into the upper mid-card, I'm sure AJ would have no problems.


Posted By: dennett316 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 07:26 PM

 
 
Guest 0308
Nothing changed since 2003 huh? You must have missed CM Punk's sustained push to the world title, Jericho's awesome heel work, the likes of Kofi Kingston, Ted Dibiase and Cody Rhodes, Evan Bourne, get heavily focused on Raw over big muscle-heads, Jeff Hardy win a title over another muscle-head in Kozlov. Yeah, WWE sure haven't changed.
HHH is hugely over with the crowds, you may argue that's due to his being married to the boss' daughter. Fact is though, he was main eventing before they even got together, the argument means nothing.
Joe and AJ should be THE faces of the Frontline, not Team 3D. It's pathetic to suggest otherwise....the WWE would not misuse them this badly in their current climate. If Evan Bourne can break into the upper mid-card, I'm sure AJ would have no problems.

Punk's world title reign was a complete and utter joke as was Jeff Hardy's. Rhodes and Dibiase aren't over in the least and are treated more as Orton's lackeys. Kofi Kingston has a short and laughable I.c title reign. C/. M punk just won the I.c title and followed it up by jobbing the past two weeks. Nobody but nobody gets strong title reigns except for Cena and HHH. I love Jericho but his two title reigns were a complete joke.


Posted By: Guest#6707 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 08:38 PM

 
 
Guest 0308
Nothing changed since 2003 huh? You must have missed CM Punk's sustained push to the world title, Jericho's awesome heel work, the likes of Kofi Kingston, Ted Dibiase and Cody Rhodes, Evan Bourne, get heavily focused on Raw over big muscle-heads, Jeff Hardy win a title over another muscle-head in Kozlov. Yeah, WWE sure haven't changed.
HHH is hugely over with the crowds, you may argue that's due to his being married to the boss' daughter. Fact is though, he was main eventing before they even got together, the argument means nothing.
Joe and AJ should be THE faces of the Frontline, not Team 3D. It's pathetic to suggest otherwise....the WWE would not misuse them this badly in their current climate. If Evan Bourne can break into the upper mid-card, I'm sure AJ would have no problems.

Posted By: dennett316 (Guest) on February 09, 2009 at 07:26 PM
he got with Steph a couple of months into his main event push. Honestly he wasn't over his first title reign and he was put over every main eventer till he got over. If he didn't get with Steph they would have possibly given up on his main event push.


Posted By: Guest#0241 (Guest)  on February 09, 2009 at 08:43 PM

 
 
"Honestly he wasn't over his first title reign and he was put over every main eventer till he got over."

Yes, that's how you get someone over. Honestly, know-it-all smarks are the last people who should be boking a wrestling show.


Posted By: ravenite (Guest)  on February 10, 2009 at 03:44 AM

 
 
Punk's world title reign was a complete and utter joke as was Jeff Hardy's. Rhodes and Dibiase aren't over in the least and are treated more as Orton's lackeys. Kofi Kingston has a short and laughable I.c title reign. C/. M punk just won the I.c title and followed it up by jobbing the past two weeks. Nobody but nobody gets strong title reigns except for Cena and HHH. I love Jericho but his two title reigns were a complete joke.

You somewhat get it with Dibiase snd Rhodes because thas what they are Orton's lackeys much like Arn, Tully, and Barry were for Ric Flair in the 4 Horseman. See thats how I super group works you have a superstar and he surrounds himself with tough guys to protect him see: Rhodes and Dibiase's current wins and how they stayed right with Orton till the end of the Rumble. CM Punk's first title run was not a joke since him Chavo and John Morrison put on cinic's in ECW which was his first world title reign in WWE, in ROH and OVW he had the very sneaky heel reign his RAW title reign was never met to be sustained its whats called a test run to see how he'd do on a bigger show and as far as him jobbing since he's won the I.C. title only to Jericho who is also a main eventer. Oh and isn't Kofi Kingston in the main event at the upcoming PPV humm being held down humm. See view stuff objectively and their ya go.


Posted By: Paul (Guest)  on February 10, 2009 at 10:59 AM

 
 
Punk's world title reign was a complete and utter joke as was Jeff Hardy's. Rhodes and Dibiase aren't over in the least and are treated more as Orton's lackeys. Kofi Kingston has a short and laughable I.c title reign. C/. M punk just won the I.c title and followed it up by jobbing the past two weeks. Nobody but nobody gets strong title reigns except for Cena and HHH. I love Jericho but his two title reigns were a complete joke.

You somewhat get it with Dibiase snd Rhodes because thas what they are Orton's lackeys much like Arn, Tully, and Barry were for Ric Flair in the 4 Horseman. See thats how I super group works you have a superstar and he surrounds himself with tough guys to protect him see: Rhodes and Dibiase's current wins and how they stayed right with Orton till the end of the Rumble. CM Punk's first title run was not a joke since him Chavo and John Morrison put on cinic's in ECW which was his first world title reign in WWE, in ROH and OVW he had the very sneaky heel reign his RAW title reign was never met to be sustained its whats called a test run to see how he'd do on a bigger show and as far as him jobbing since he's won the I.C. title only to Jericho who is also a main eventer. Oh and isn't Kofi Kingston in the main event at the upcoming PPV humm being held down humm. See view stuff objectively and their ya go.

Posted By: Paul (Guest) on February 10, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Did you really compare Rhodes and Dibiase to Tully and Arn? Are you kidding me? First of all neither guy is over in the least. Neither guy is looked upon as top line workers and neither of them have had classic matches try again. Oh yeah Kendrick was involved in a main event match and went down the card not longer after let me not get into mvp.


Posted By: Guest#3713 (Guest)  on February 10, 2009 at 10:18 PM

 
 
only cena and hhh get long title reigns with plenty of crediability. Punk, Jericho, Mysterio title reigns were booked as total jokes.

Posted By: Guest#9399 (Guest)  on February 10, 2009 at 10:22 PM

 
 
Paul the WWE intention might be to make Dibiase and Rhodes big time but as of right now they are being booked like Scotty Riggs and say Kidman were in Raven's flock. Raven blinded Riggs in one eye and Riggs joined Raven's flock for no real reason. Orton kicked Dibiase in the head and put him out for two months and Ted joins Orton's group.

Posted By: Guest#9231 (Guest)  on February 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM

 


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