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411's WWE Raw Report 03.02.09
Posted by Rob McNew on 03.02.2009



-First off, a correction from last week. I stated that Dibiase no-sold a shot to the back of the neck from sledgie in the locker room when in fact it was the handle of sledgehammer. That certainly makes that part of it a lot more excusable. I still wasn't a fan of closing segment, but that makes a little bit better. Still things can easily be redeemed with a strong showing tonight, and on paper things look good. Randy Orton is advertised to make his Wrestlemania choice tonight. You would think that it's a mortal lock that he picks Triple H, but I wouldn't be shocked if they swerve us and he picks Edge only to somehow have the choice backfire and he still has to face HHH anyway. We also have Shawn Michaels facing off with Vladimir Kozlov for the right to face Taker at Wrestlemania.

-Live from TD Banknorth Garden in Boston, MA

-Hosted by Michael Cole & Jerry "The King" Lawler

-We open up with a recap of the chase that closed last weeks show. Of course the WWE production staff once again shows that they are in fact capable of turning chicken shit into chicken salad by making it look about 100 times better than it really was.

-Jerry Lawler is in the ring to make a huge announcement regarding the World Championship. Lawler states it's the biggest announcement he's ever made on Raw. Lawler states that tonight there will be a World Heavyweight Championship match tonight between Edge and John Cena.

-From there we go to Piper's Pit hosted by Chris Jericho. We even have the old school circa 1984 Piper's Pit set for the show. Jericho says he wasn't planning on doing this today, but he's been berated by the hypocrites for disrespecting the legends that he's procured the original Piper's Pit and he will host the show himself. He states of all the famous incidents the most famous was the one he shows on the tron. It is of course Piper breaking a coconut of Jimmy Snuka's head. Jericho then introduces his guest Superfly Jimmy Snuka. Jericho states it was some classic footage that led to classic matches between Snuka and Piper and then introduces some classic footage of Piper vs. Snuka. Jericho says they looked pretty good back in those days. Jericho says Snuka is a grim reminder of what can happen. He calls Snuka the poster boy for what "The Wrestler" is all about. Jericho says Snuka is in his 60's but still embarrasses himself every weekend at indy shows in New Jersey. Jericho states that many deserving superstars were not allowed in the Rumble because Snuka and Piper stole spots in 2008. Jericho says whatever few functioning brain cells were left in his broken down body had to hear the roar of the hypocrites one more time. Jericho says that's the problem with all the legends, that they're sick in the head. They're too occupied with their egos to let it go. Jericho says its time for Snuka to pack it in. He says he brought Snuka out to show all the superstars what can happen if they're not careful. He says they'll end up like him a pathetic disgrace. Snuka stands up to get, and Jericho continues saying he doesn't have a right to be angry. He calls Snuka finished. He tells him no one wants to see him anymore, so he should go home and stay home. Jericho asks him if he doesn't understand, and Snuka screams that no he doesn't understand. Jericho says if he doesn't understand he can remind him of old school. Jericho breaks out the bananas and a pineapple for old times sake. Then he pulls out a coconut, and asks Snuka if he wants to relive his past. Jericho throws the coconut in the air, but Snuka manages to snatch it from him. Jericho begs him not to disgrace himself and says he made his point then runs out the back. Snuka poses for the fans, so naturally that allows Jericho to attack from behind pushing the set down on top of him. Jericho takes his belt off on whips Snuka with it screaming, "Live in the past!" He shoves a banana down Snuka's mouth and again screams at him to go home. Not as strong as the previous legends segments due to Jimmy not really speaking, but Jericho was still strong and got crazy heat from the crowd. They need to pay this off soon so we actually start building towards the inevitable Mania match, whatever it might be.

Money in the Bank Qualifying Triple Threat Match: Rey Mysterio vs. Mike Knox vs. Kane
Rey slides out and Knox follows him. Rey runs inside into Kane. Kane whips Rey into the ropes and he delivers a baseball slide to Knox. Rey goes for the hurracanrana off the second rope, but Kane catches him. Rey punches him down into a seated senton. Knox comes in and fires Rey to the floor leaving him in the ring with Kane. Upper cut to Knox is followed by an Irish whip. Kane charges into an elbow from Knox, then they both put each other down with a big boot. And with that we head to commercial. Back from break and Knox has Rey held in a backbreaker submission hold across his knee. Rey kicks out of that, and hits the ropes ducking a boot. He hits the ropes again, but gets yanked outside by Kane. Knox meets Kane coming in and drives him into the corner. Avalanche in the corner connects for Knox, and a snap mare sets up a side headlock from there. Kane quickly counters out of that into a side suplex. Kane hits the ropes, but runs into a big boot from Knox. Knox goes to bring Rey in, but gets fought off with shoulderblocks. A bulldog follows springboard hurracanrana from Rey for two. Dropkick connects to Kane, but Rey then runs into a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker from Knox for two. Rey counters a powerslam attempt with a DDT, but Kane breaks up the cover. Hurracanrana to Kane sending him face first into the corner. Knox throws Kane out of the corner, but he falls into Kane. Hurracanrana sets Knox up for the 619, but he runs into a chokeslam attempt from Kane. Rey counters that into another hurracanrana, which sets Kane up for the 619, which this time connects. Springboard seated senton looks to finish, but Knox breaks up the count with the big boot. Knox delivers a roll of the dice to Rey, but turns into a chokeslam from Kane, which finishes. Kane qualifies for Money in the Bank in what I would term an upset at 8:17. Kane delivers a chokeslam to Rey for good measure and stares up at the briefcase.
Winner: Kane (Pinfall on Knox-Chokeslam **1/2)

-Todd Grisham is with Shawn Michaels. Shawn says that he doesn't need to be reminded of Kozlov's accomplishments. He says the last year has been the most traumatic of his career, but every obstacle has been overcome. He brings up that 11 years in this very building he headlined Wrestlemania with a broken back, and career over. Since he came back he has gone to Wrestlemania and stolen the show every single time. He promises that tonight he will end Kozlov's undefeated streak, and at Wrestlemania he will end Taker's.

Mickie James & Kelly Kelly vs. Beth Phoenix & Jillian Hall (w. Rosa Mendez & Santino Marella)
Both ladies Champions Maryse & Melina join Cole and Lawler on commentary. Interesting. Beth starts with Kelly and powers her into the corner. Kelly hits the ropes and delivers a tilt-a-whirl hurracanrana. She goes for another rana but gets caught and thrown into the corner. Jillian and Beth double team Kelly in the corner before Jillian tags in. Jillian is in and goes to the hair pulling. Kelly kicks off and tags in Mickie. Jillian charges into an elbow, but comes back with a forearm. Jillian flips into Mickie's boots, which sets Mickie to come off the top with a Thesz press. Mickie tags Kelly who comes in with a sunset flip which finishes at 2:39. Rosa attacks which leads to a big diva brawl in the ring. Melina tries to get into the fray, but Maryse yanks her off the apron and delivers a DDT on the floor. This was odd; it appears that this was just a vehicle to start a program between Maryse and Melina.
Winners: Mickie James & Kelly Kelly (Kelly pins Jillian-Sunset Flip ¼*)

-Same recap of the Orton-HHH events that led off the show is shown again.

-Randy Orton and Legacy are out and in the biggest upset of the night they're wearing pants. Accompanying Orton in addition to Legacy is his team of lawyers and armed security. Orton states that he is entitled to a title match at Wrestlemania since he won the Royal Rumble. Orton says he is officially challenging the winner of tonight's Edge-Cena match. Orton says he's not challenging HHH because HHH isn't going to Wrestlemania, but rather he's going to jail. Orton says he is pressing charges against HHH for assault with a deadly weapon. Orton says he wanted to handle their issues like grown men, but HHH used a concealed sledgehammer with excess force against both Dibiase and Rhodes. Orton states if he had not escaped he could have ended his career or his life. Orton tells HHH its time to face the music, and says if HHH has anything to say he needs to come out and say it. HHH says very soon he will going away for a very long time. That brings out Triple H accompanied by sledgie. HHH says Orton's doctors and lawyers say he has a disease called IED. HHH says he is in complete control of his, and heads to the ring. The armed security threatens, so HHH drops his sledgehammer and offers to be patted down. HHH tells Orton they all tell him what he wants hear, but he's going to tell him what he needs to hear. Orton says he knows all about it, that he attacked a 63 year old man and an innocent woman, but HHH says its not about them its about him. HHH says Orton wants and needs this story to end. He tells Orton he took out the entire McMahon family, and now he needs to go to Wrestlemania and defeat him for the WWE Title. He needs it to avenge the moment that defines his life. HHH says its about Evolution. He says he watched Orton become the youngest Champion in history, and then asks Orton what happened the next night. He reminds him that he turned on him and beat the hell out of him. HHH asks how long he held the title for? Trips says he doesn't run from his past, and he's not a good person. He says he wasn't happy for Orton's success. He made a conscious decision and took what was his, and now Orton has the same opportunity. He says Orton has an opportunity to avenge that night, and do it on the grandest stage. He can put all of it behind him, but instead he makes a conscious choice to run. He asks Orton why is that, and then answers for him that he's afraid. HHH says Orton has been afraid his entire life, and he knows deep down inside that he doesn't have what it takes. He tells Orton he can stand in the ring and hide behind his lawyers and security and talk tough, but he knows the truth. He's that same kid that was carrying his bags around in Evolution. He says he's that same little boy with all the talent in the world, but ultimately gutless. Orton's lawyer says his client has nothing more to say to him, and unless he willingly removes himself security will do it for him. The security starts to take Triple H away, but Orton stops them. Orton says he thinks he's changed his mind. He says he won't be facing Edge or Cena, but will face Triple H. Under one conditon. Orton tells him they will settle this at Wrestlemania, and not before. Orton tells him he can't touch him before Wrestlemania unless he's physically provoked. He asks Trips if that's a deal, and Hunter accepts. As HHH leaves Orton stops him and lets him know that if he wants to get personal, he wants him to know that it felt great to kick the old man in the skull, and it felt even better when he did the same thing to Shane, but when he hit that RKO on Steph he replays it over and over and over in his head. He says he can still smell her scent. Her skin so soft. At least that's what he's remembers. He wonders what Stephanie remembers? That brings HHH back into the ring for a nose to nose, but he stops short of physical contact. HHH tells him the last time they faced off he broke his collarbone, but that was just business. This is personal. This time he's gonna break his neck. That couldn't have been any better done. Absolutely phenomenal promo. Everything that needed to happen did. Now its all on the table and we have the most multi-faceted feud in a long damn time.

Winner faces The Undertaker at Wrestlemania: Shawn Michaels vs. Vladimir Kozlov
A little cat and mouse to start with Shawn evading Kozlov. Eventually he gets stuck in the corner with a series of Shoulderblocks. Shawn comes off the ropes with a sunset flip attempt but Kozlov stops that with a bearhug. Shawn smacks his way out of that and hits the ropes with a dropkick. He locks in a figure four on the Russian, but Kozlov turns it over immediately. He goes for the chokeslam, but Shawn is able to counter and bail to the floor as we head to break. Back from commercial and Kozlov remains in control with the shoulderblocks. He charges into a boot and Shawn delivers a chop. Kozlov reverses an Irish Whip and Shawn hits the corner. He places Shawn horizontally across the top rope and delivers headbutts to the back. Running powerslam connects for two. Kozlov hands out a pair of backbreakers, and then slaps on a torture rack. Shawn is able to punch free of the rack, and hits the ropes running into a back elbow from Kozlov. That picks up a two count so Vlad mounts Shawn for some strikes. Kozlov locks on another bearhug, but Shawn punches free. Shawn hands out a couple of chops, and goes for the flying forearm, but runs into the battering ram headbutt. Only a two count off that, so Kozlov throws Shawn into the corner and chokes some more with the boot. He straddles Shawn on the top rope, and goes for a belly to belly but Shawn fights him off with a series of punches. He finally shoves Kozlov back to the mat, and delivers the top rope elbow drop. Sweet chin music finishes off the Russian at 10:08 and sets up the dream match at Wrestlemania. Kozlov's "undefeated" streak is over, as Shawn will head to Mania as the streak breaker. Kozlov controlled virtually the entire match, which isn't a good thing, but we got the right result so I can't complain.
Winner: Shawn Michaels (Pinfall-Sweet Chin Music *1/2)

-Afterwards Taker comes out and stares down Shawn from the ramp.

-More 12 Rounds hype

-Cowboy Bill Watts is introduced as the latest inductee of the WWE Hall of Fame. Jim Ross, who Watts mentored, will serve as inductor. Hopefully this means Vince acquired the Mid-South/UWF tape library.

-Edge is with Todd Grisham. Grisham questions Edge's motive giving him the match after being knocked on Smackdown against Big Show. Edge says since No Way Out Cena has been begging for a rematch, but now he's the bad guy. Edge says he always wanted the match in Boston because he wants to beat Cena in his own hometown. He promises that he will again tell him that the World Title is his.

World Heavyweight Championship: Edge © vs. John Cena
Cena grabs a side headlock takeover at the outset, but Edge pushes into the ropes and reverses. Edge takes him over to his back. Cena pushes off into the ropes, but a backdrop attempt fails and a kick to the face results. Edge charges at Cena, but Cena pulls down the ropes and Edge flies to the floor as we head to break. Back from commercial and Edge has Cena in a headlock. Cena comes to his feet and pushes out. He hits the ropes, but runs into a boot from Edge, which picks up two. Irish whip sends Cena to the corner, and Edge catches him with a clothesline for two. A second attempt sees Cena duck the clothesline. Shoulderblocks connect from Cena and he follows with the protoplex. Five knuckle shuffle misses, and Edge gets an Oklahoma roll for two. Edge counters an Attitude Adjuster and gets a two count. Cena slides in and goes for a sunset flip which Edge blocks. Cena rolls up Edge for two, and Edge hits the impaler DDT for two of his own. Edge goes to the top rope, but gets caught. Cena goes for the Attitude Adjuster again this time from the top, but again Edge slips away and pushes Cena to the floor. Cena barely beats the count into the ring, and quickly connects with a blockbuster. Cena goes to the top rope and delivers a throwback. That sets up a five-knuckle shuffle, which this time connects. Another attitude adjuster is countered and Edge locks in a sharpshooter. I thought they may go for yet another Montreal rehash, but Cena reaches the ropes to break the hold. Edge prepares to deliver a spear, but Cena drop toeholds him into an STF. Edge is able to reach the ropes to break the hold, and then delivers a spear. Cena kicks out at two from that so Edge slides to the floor. Edge grabs the belt and brings it into the ring. Cena goes for the Attitude Adjuster, but Edge waffles him with the belt drawing the DQ at 12:20. Great match, shitty finish, but its clearly just a set up to set up the rematch at Wrestlemania. While not satisfying its certainly understandable. Big Show comes out and stares down Cena from the stage, and then shoots a glare at Edge. Edge asks for help to get to his feet, but doesn't get it. Vickie comes out on the stage, and introduces Big Show as the number one contender at Wrestlemania. So I guess it ends up a triple threat.
Winner: John Cena (Disqualification-Foreign Object/Edge Retains World Title ***)

-Another week light on wrestling, but strong in the promo department. The build to Wrestlemania has been near flawless as HHH and Orton delivered an A+ promo to set that match up. The addition of Big Show to the Edge-Cena match doesn't really excite me (don't be fooled Cena is getting into that match), but I guess they figured they'd add some intrigue to Edge-Cena part 71. Jericho's promo with Snuka was the worst of the bunch, but still strong. Finally we get the dream super match of Taker and HBK. All in all a solid effort as we close in on one month until Wrestlemania.


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When did Maryse turn into an orange?

Posted By: Heyyo (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:22 PM

 
 
So, Orton looks like a chickenshit by first chickening out of a match with HHH, deciding to have him arrested, THEN have HHH come out to bait him into the fight... which he accepts on the condition that they don't touch each other for a month.

Way to make the heel look strong.


Posted By: Joe (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:22 PM

 
 
if vince got the midsouth/uwf library that will fucking rock. saw a lot of it live, was there the day sting turned face god that was a long time ago lol

Posted By: Guest#0990 (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:27 PM

 
 
gettin really sick of seeing triple threat championship matches at mania......really sick of em, they take away the speciality of a fued

Posted By: jc money (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:27 PM

 
 
Even Shawn Michaels can't carry Kozlov to a half way decent match. Yes Cole you can get a submission with a torture wrack dumbass. Jericho's segment with Snuka was the weakes of his showdowns with legends but still pretty good. Wonder what the plans are for Rey at WM are? I guess he could get another chance to get into the MITB match. A pretty meh Raw imo.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:29 PM

 
 
Ric Flair in his prime pulled out a good match from El Giante and HBK can't get anything out of Kozlov. Just another example of Flair being a superior wrestler.

Posted By: Guest#1424 (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:31 PM

 
 
did Jericho bust his head, looked like he had a fresh blood trickle or a scab from a weekend match maybe?

Posted By: stryper2000 (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:34 PM

 
 
Tonight's Raw was solid, main event was dramatic and cool as hell though.

Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:35 PM

 
 
Dug the ring action outside of the women's match. Dug that promos outside of the Snuka/Jericho moment.

Having Snuka out there was a downgrade really. If Snuka was right after Piper, it might have been passable. It is a little tardy, in retrospect.

If SCSA doesn't confront Jericho soon then all will be wasted.


Posted By: thegunisgood (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:36 PM

 
 
Ric Flair in his prime pulled out a good match from El Giante and HBK can't get anything out of Kozlov. Just another example of Flair being a superior wrestler.

Posted By: Guest#1424 (Guest

that sir is a lie


Posted By: Guest#7505 (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:37 PM

 
 
if taker and hbk is main event, then michaels will win!
im predicting vince will screw hhh


Posted By: kevin jordan (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:39 PM

 
 
What the hell? mysterio not in MITB again? Why wouldnt you put one of your most athletic, popular superstars in a showcase match? Kane? c'mon.
First Morrison misses out and now Rey?
For Shame!!


Posted By: ted (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:43 PM

 
 
hahah anyone else hear michael cole say... i think its some sort of submission or something like that when kozlov had hbk in the torture rack

Posted By: mark (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:46 PM

 
 
I can understand that Triple H literally gets into another guy's face to intimidate him, but when he stays that close for more than two minutes, it starts getting creepy, especially when he starts rubbing his giant nose against Orton's head.

Posted By: Creeped Out (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:48 PM

 
 
No Punk = fail

Posted By: Marq (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:49 PM

 
 
Edge vs. Big Show = NO BUYS.

They're gonna have to throw in Cena to get a World Title back on RAW.


Posted By: XScarredHeart (Guest)  on March 02, 2009 at 11:55 PM

 
 
next week, y2j interrupts Nikolai Volkov's national anthem, calls him a hypocrite for being a ukranian and puts him on the liontamer.

Good raw but big show just isn't a credible main event threat and he has no business in a WM main event. You just know he's there to count the lights.

I really would like to see the Shawn-Taker angle to both revisit the first HITC and then maybe a little of the god speak in regard to the rest in peace business.

And that was a nasty DDT spot by Melina. Whoever that chick was that did that has a good prescence.


Posted By: marty funkhowser (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:04 AM

 
 
Cena gets MITB and wins then cashes in after BS v Edge match. Jericho vs. Nailz aka The Prisoner (WCW name) will guarantee a gigantic buyrate.

Posted By: Kevin (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:05 AM

 
 
The crowd was kind of dead throughout. Pop damnit!

Posted By: Guest#4015 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:05 AM

 
 
i understand why they make orton a coward heel, its becuz when he was a bad ass heel people cheered for him and thats not what wwe wants. so he has to look like a chicken shit heel jus so u will hate his character

Posted By: Guest#0396 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:16 AM

 
 
I never thought I would see the day when The Undertaker would actually put someone over and I would complain about it, but the thing with Kozlov didn't make any sense. Having HBK beat Kozlov to be built up as a streak buster is a good thing, but why have Kozlov pin UT first? HBK only needed two moves to beat the guy who just cleanly pinned his WM25 opponent, why should he be intimidated at all? Having UT come out with his pyro and scary music doesn't erase the fact he just got pinned by a midcarder. I think the addition of Kozlov detracted from the match's heat.

Posted By: Guest (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:19 AM

 
 
What the hell, the only reason I tuned in was because JBL said to watch and see his WM plans unfold and he wasn't even on the show...goddammit

Posted By: Ted Bundy (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:58 AM

 
 
"Hopefully this means Vince acquired the Mid-South/UWF tape library. "

Bill Watts doesn't own the UWF tape library. His ex-wife does, and has sold shows on VHS for years. Last I knew, she still hadn't gotten with the times and went with DVD.


Posted By: Scott B (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM

 
 
Edge vs. Big Show = NO BUYS.

They're gonna have to throw in Cena to get a World Title back on RAW.

Posted By: XScarredHeart (Guest) on March 02, 2009 at 11:55 PM


Why cant randy orton beat triple H? bring the WWE CHampionship back to raw


Posted By: wylung (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM

 
 
If you really think it will be Edge vs. Big Show at Mania you are all sheep, Cena will get his way into the match instead of Big Show. They probally wouldn't use Big Show in a Triple Threat at WM25. Sure we have seen Edge/Cena and HHH/Orton a few times before but they all have great chemistry together. This is looking good so far.

Posted By: Jones (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:03 AM

 
 
The crowd was kind of dead throughout. Pop damnit!

Posted By: Guest#4015 (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 12:05 AM

I agree whole-heartedly!! I'm so SICK of crowds that sit on their damn hands throughout a show! When RAW was here in Kansas City almost a year ago, there were people telling fans to sit down or to stop yelling....I would understand if they were being belligerent and/or drunk....but COME ON!!! You are there for a reason!! To have fun and get fired up!


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:26 AM

 
 
So....they have both pairs of Tag Champs feuding...they have now set up a potential feud between both Women's Champs....if they set up these kinda feuds for Wrestlemania, could we see title unifications?? Certain titles allocated to one show?? The end of the brand extension?? Hmmmmmmmm...who knows

Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:28 AM

 
 
This is wrestling these days? I thought I would check it out for the first time in forever and I can't believe this is the same "brand" I grew up on. Where is the energy and electricity? Why is everything so smarmy and casual in tone?

I don't think anything was more stupid then Randy Orton and his tight-t-shirt brigade walking out... reaallly slowly. Walking slowly, speaking with a lack of emotional reactivity -- is this supposed to make you a "cool" heel these days? Is constantly staring into space with a dumb looking smirk on your face supposed to give you an edge and make the crowd boo? Boston is usually a hot town for wresting, but they just sat on their hands the whole show.

I can't believe that this reviewer would say that "That couldn't have been any better done. Absolutely phenomenal promo". Were we watching the same show? That was one of the most mind-numbing, atrociously bad promos I've seen EVER, especially from two supposed main-event guys. I can't believe anyone would pay to see this angle continued on. The WWE doesn't even know how to rip off it's own 20 minute RAW interview template anymore.
The whole thing was just flat and dead in the water, from start to finish.

This is just so ripe for parody too. Someone with half a brain in TNA or elsewhere should have a segment where they mock the stupidity of these self-conscious, overly-serious, tepid, boring interview segments. Hell, let Chris Jericho do it on RAW! I keep hearing people say that "everything sucks because the WWF is PG now" but last time I checked, kids were still into compelling, fun, energetic characters with larger then life personalities. So why is everyone acting like they are on quaaludes? At least when the NWA did "serious" they did it right -- they got guys who could talk or managers that could talk for them and created an insular world that sucked you into believing that these guys actually hated each others guts and would do anything to beat them, all under the guise of a sporting, athletic event. Vince is basically doing the same formula as the 1993-Disneyized WWF, but without the neon colors or energy. I guess this is what happens when there are no territories or viable competition to steal stars from -- you end up with one narrow-minded concept of a wrestling universe.

If I dare tune in next week, I am expecting to see Triple H chastising Randy Orton for stealing his creme-rinse out of the shower or maybe it will be Orton that is upset, because he switched out all his too-cool-too-tight t-shirts. Cue the generic rock music...

I'm done ranting, but come on. What is this crap?


Posted By: Hmmm (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:36 AM

 
 
"If you really think it will be Edge vs. Big Show at Mania you are all sheep, Cena will get his way into the match instead of Big Show."

WRONG! It will be a triple threat.


Posted By: Guest#2678 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:53 AM

 
 
I am anxious to see where they are going with the Maryse-Melina angle! I am hoping this put this angle into Wrestlemania, and I believe both Melina and Maryse can put on a good match! Also, I don't know if it's pure coincidence, but this is the second week that Mickie has attacked Rosa in retaliation! Maybe they are setting up a feud between them?! Mickie was the original obsessed diva back in the day with Trish! So Rosa can be seen as Mickie #2 by observing this angle!

Posted By: Fabian (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 02:46 AM

 
 
"What the hell? mysterio not in MITB again? Why wouldnt you put one of your most athletic, popular superstars in a showcase match? Kane? c'mon.
First Morrison misses out and now Rey?
For Shame!!"

It is my strong hope that they kept Morrison and Rey out of MITB because they plan to have Rey challenge for the Tag Titles at WM, teaming with Bourne of Kofi (preferably Bourne).


Posted By: Mr Quimby's Beard (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 02:57 AM

 
 
Anyone else wonder if they are building this "Legends" thing with Jericho just to have Hogan come out and start screaming "Pick on THIS legend brotherrrrr!"... Anyone? Anyone? LOL!

Posted By: Brett (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 03:16 AM

 
 
I'm fine with the Triple Threat for the World title - it allows them to have Edge hold onto the belt, without pinning the Golden Boy.

HHH-Orton is one of the most heated, compelling Mania main events in recent years, and while I'd have preferred a more natural build to Taker-HBK (couldn't they have gotten personal at the Rumble?) that will definately be something to see as well.


Posted By: chris.crowing (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 03:24 AM

 
 
So Randy does own at least one pair of pants! I was starting to get very worried.

Posted By: Sunamagun (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 05:29 AM

 
 
This is wrestling these days? I thought I would check it out for the first time in forever and I can't believe this is the same "brand" I grew up on. Where is the energy and electricity? Why is everything so smarmy and casual in tone?

I don't think anything was more stupid then Randy Orton and his tight-t-shirt brigade walking out... reaallly slowly. Walking slowly, speaking with a lack of emotional reactivity -- is this supposed to make you a "cool" heel these days? Is constantly staring into space with a dumb looking smirk on your face supposed to give you an edge and make the crowd boo? Boston is usually a hot town for wresting, but they just sat on their hands the whole show.

I can't believe that this reviewer would say that "That couldn't have been any better done. Absolutely phenomenal promo". Were we watching the same show? That was one of the most mind-numbing, atrociously bad promos I've seen EVER, especially from two supposed main-event guys. I can't believe anyone would pay to see this angle continued on. The WWE doesn't even know how to rip off it's own 20 minute RAW interview template anymore.
The whole thing was just flat and dead in the water, from start to finish.

This is just so ripe for parody too. Someone with half a brain in TNA or elsewhere should have a segment where they mock the stupidity of these self-conscious, overly-serious, tepid, boring interview segments. Hell, let Chris Jericho do it on RAW! I keep hearing people say that "everything sucks because the WWF is PG now" but last time I checked, kids were still into compelling, fun, energetic characters with larger then life personalities. So why is everyone acting like they are on quaaludes? At least when the NWA did "serious" they did it right -- they got guys who could talk or managers that could talk for them and created an insular world that sucked you into believing that these guys actually hated each others guts and would do anything to beat them, all under the guise of a sporting, athletic event. Vince is basically doing the same formula as the 1993-Disneyized WWF, but without the neon colors or energy. I guess this is what happens when there are no territories or viable competition to steal stars from -- you end up with one narrow-minded concept of a wrestling universe.

If I dare tune in next week, I am expecting to see Triple H chastising Randy Orton for stealing his creme-rinse out of the shower or maybe it will be Orton that is upset, because he switched out all his too-cool-too-tight t-shirts. Cue the generic rock music...

I'm done ranting, but come on. What is this crap?

Posted By: Hmmm (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 01:36 AM
_______________________________________

Blah blah blah, shut your fucking pie hole and GTFO if you don't like what you're watching


Posted By: Guinness (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 06:37 AM

 
 
Fucking WM Triple Threats. I remember when WM was about giving the fans the best card possible. Not trying to jam as many stars on the card that you can. Big Show in a title shot? What is this, 1999?

Posted By: Champ (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 06:44 AM

 
 
"big show just isn't a credible main event threat and he has no business in a WM main event"

---------------------

Um, the guy is 7 foot, 400+ pounds, and can actually wrestle. It's about time they started making Show a bit more credible.


Posted By: Probes (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 06:55 AM

 
 
Good show with a really good opening segment & the Trip-Orton promo was money, the Taker-HBK staredown was cool & the main event was solid.

Overall a good show.


Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 07:08 AM

 
 
some of you will actually pay for wrestlemania? heh. mcmahon has to love you. wait... no he laughs at you!! and so do I.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA etc.


Posted By: tully (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 07:36 AM

 
 
"I never thought I would see the day when The Undertaker would actually put someone over and I would complain about it, but the thing with Kozlov didn't make any sense. Having HBK beat Kozlov to be built up as a streak buster is a good thing, but why have Kozlov pin UT first? HBK only needed two moves to beat the guy who just cleanly pinned his WM25 opponent, why should he be intimidated at all? Having UT come out with his pyro and scary music doesn't erase the fact he just got pinned by a midcarder. I think the addition of Kozlov detracted from the match's heat.

Posted By: Guest (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 12:19 AM"


They don't want HBK and Undertaker to touch before Wrestlemania, but they need to establish that Shawn has a good chance of beating him. Ending Kozlov's streak gave him a win over Taker by association. If Taker had beaten Kozlov, there wouldn't have been any point in having Shawn do it too.


Posted By: Jack's First Kill (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 08:35 AM

 
 
Anyone else wonder if they are building this "Legends" thing with Jericho just to have Hogan come out and start screaming "Pick on THIS legend brotherrrrr!"... Anyone? Anyone? LOL!

Posted By: Brett (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 03:16 AM

We should be so lucky. If Vince is not going to book Austin vs. Hogan then Hogan or Austin vs. Jericho will do.


Posted By: Mr. America (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 08:39 AM

 
 
The last I had heard and I work in TV, Bill Watts Ex-wife had the library in her legal possession with no intention of selling it which sucks.

Posted By: ck (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 08:45 AM

 
 
"Hopefully this means Vince acquired the Mid-South/UWF tape library. "

Bill Watts doesn't own the UWF tape library. His ex-wife does, and has sold shows on VHS for years. Last I knew, she still hadn't gotten with the times and went with DVD.

Posted By: Scott B (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Actually, she has released 2 DVDs of Mid-South classics, titled "Giants, Midgets, Heroes & Villains" volumes 1 & 2.


Posted By: Guest#9562 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 08:46 AM

 
 
The Snuka/Piper footage was interesting to see, especially Snuka pinning Piper. (which was unheard of back then.)

Posted By: Karatgold24 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 08:47 AM

 
 
You know what the worst thing about the HHH-Orton promo was? HHH just kept talking. And talking. There was no dialog, no back and forth to build up to the inevitable. Hunter had his one line of attack, and once he brought up Evolution it was clear what it would be, and when he was done Orton agreed. Awful. I see kids' cartoons with better writing.

Posted By: Sly Reference (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 08:58 AM

 
 
Anyone else wonder if they are building this "Legends" thing with Jericho just to have Hogan come out and start screaming "Pick on THIS legend brotherrrrr!"... Anyone? Anyone? LOL!

Posted By: Brett (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 03:16 AM

Nah, it's gonna be Austin


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:11 AM

 
 
I believe Show has been added to the match so that he can take the pin (it will be a triple threat) at Mania... so Cena loses but doesn't get pinned but Edge still retains.

Orton is gonna win the WWE title and bring it back to Raw.

Though I hate Orton playing chicken shit to HHH.


Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:14 AM

 
 
I'd love to see just Edge vs Big Show match. They'd tear the house down!

Posted By: Alex (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:21 AM

 
 
Edge vs. Big Show = NO BUYS.

They're gonna have to throw in Cena to get a World Title back on RAW.

Posted By: XScarredHeart (Guest) on March 02, 2009 at 11:55 PM


Why cant randy orton beat triple H? bring the WWE CHampionship back to raw

Posted By: wylung (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Because no one wants to see Edge as World Champion anymore or ever again.


Posted By: XScarredHeart (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:29 AM

 
 
Here are some thoughts about Raw:

1. The Maryse/Melina/Divas thing was pointless, but if it works towards consolidating the titles at WM, I'm for it. While you're at it, WWE, consolidate the tag titles at WM as well.
2. Melina's outfit-goodness gracious
3. Koslov/Michaels was Ok, and it served the purpose of setting up UT/Shawn, but what was the point of Taker losing to Koslov on SD? If you said none, give yourself a gold star.
4. I would have thought Rey would have been the favorite for MITB, but if they would have had him go over two monsters, that would have been instantly on Csonka's ridiculous list. Kane going over was the right thing.
5. I'm glad they are setting up Cena/Show/Edge for wrestlemania instead of one on one. Give us something different this year.
6. Speaking of, as intense as the showdown between Orton/HHH was, the only wise thing to do is to have this title match not be a standard match, but some sort of stip like Cage, No DQ, something. They haven't had a cage title match at WM since Hogan/Bundy in No.2.
And finally, last but not least...
7. Chris Jericho is my favorite wrestler, and yet by the end of the segment with Snuka I was hoping for someone to come out and kick his ass. That, my friends, is what you call a SUPER-HEEL. Jericho may arguably be the greatest heel of all time. Edge is great, Orton is great, but Jericho is at Flair level.


Posted By: Brian (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:37 AM

 
 
Kind of shows the stupidity of the legends of wrestlemania in my opinoin. Let's see. Last week, an old guy went to talk to Jericho and he beat him up. Well, I better go talk to him. Oops, he beat me up. Hey, legend #3, you go talk to him. Oh, you got beat up too? Maybe we should send another old guy to talk to him.

Stupid.


Posted By: David (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:44 AM

 
 
.......what i want to know is if maryse is posing for playboy this year?

Posted By: cenahater-1 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:45 AM

 
 
If I dare tune in next week, I am expecting to see Triple H chastising Randy Orton for stealing his creme-rinse out of the shower or maybe it will be Orton that is upset, because he switched out all his too-cool-too-tight t-shirts. Cue the generic rock music...

I'm done ranting, but come on. What is this crap?

Posted By: Hmmm (Gues

your entire rant is useless why dont you shut up and go spank it to the most overrated 1 move no promo bitch that we all know you love brother lol yeah hogan was so great NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Guest#6442 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:48 AM

 
 
Looks like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree after all. Flashback ten years ago Kevin Nash ending Goldberg's undefeated streak . HBK taught him well.

Posted By: jokerdoom (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 10:00 AM

 
 
Jerry Lawler began the show by making an announcement that he said was both the biggest announcement he has made on Raw and one of the biggest matches, if not the biggest, in the history of Raw. What was this historic, epic match? Why, Edge vs. John Cena for the world title.

This was really dumb. First, nobody buys this as some huge match. We’ve seen Cena vs. Edge in a title match on Raw seemingly 8 million times already. Trying to sell the fans on this just makes them think you view them as idiots.


Second, you’ve got your biggest show of the year in a few weeks and announcers should be careful to avoid ludicrous hyperbole that makes you roll your eyes and ignore them. If ever there is a time to be reserved on hype for individual TV shows, it’s now.

Third, wasn’t the whole storyline that Cena was going to hunt down Vickie Guerrero for as long as it took to get his title shot? Usually when you do a storyline like that the heel doesn’t give in within the week. Are they so impatient and fidgety that they can’t even do a six week story now?


Posted By: todd martin (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 10:09 AM

 
 
This was a marked step down from the other Jericho segments in recent weeks, for two principal reasons. First, they have played off the cocoanut angle so many times over the years it feels terribly stale. Second, Snuka has never been a good talker, and the thing that has been making these segments is not nostalgia but mic work. The segments work much better when Jericho gets verbal pushback. As such, they should be using guys like Arn Anderson and Michael Hayes instead of guys like Snuka. Still, Jericho performed well again and the segment was good.

Posted By: Guest#1834 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 10:17 AM

 
 
Why cant randy orton beat triple H? bring the WWE CHampionship back to raw

Posted By: wylung (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*Pauses to catch breath




BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Funniest post in days!


Posted By: Guest#4133 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 10:26 AM

 
 
Trish Stratus seems like a legendary Women's Champion so maybe she'll wrestle Jericho at 'Mania, kick his ass, and then to celebrate she'll strip off her clothes and do some yoga to promote her new yoga classes. That would be the best Wrestlemania EVER.

Posted By: Zingy (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 10:34 AM

 
 
"So, Orton looks like a chickenshit by first chickening out of a match with HHH, deciding to have him arrested, THEN have HHH come out to bait him into the fight... which he accepts on the condition that they don't touch each other for a month.

Way to make the heel look strong."
___________________

I'm starting to think that short of Orton pulling out a gun and shooting Triple H in both knees, nothing he does will make him look strong in some peoples' eyes.

Slowly, now:

Keeping...two...opponents...apart...
until...their...match...builds...
anticipation...and...potentially...increases...the...drawing...ability
...of...their...FEUD.

If Orton and Triple H have some knock down, drag out pull-apart brawl NOW, FIVE WEEKS before Wrestlemania, WHY IN THE HELL would anyone pay to see it then?!

As good as Triple H has been in his exchanges with Orton (and he has stepped up his game significantly), Orton has had some career-defining moments in the past two months with this Wrestlemania build up. Nobody's going to remember him looking weak, nobody's gonna remember him running. Nobody ever does. What they'll remember is the kick to Vince McMahon's head, the fight with Shane, the RKO to Stephanie, and the confrontation last night, where Orton was at his heelish and most detestable, trying to goad Triple H into attacking him. We may look back on this in a few years and remark on this feud as a true passing of the torch. How this is what put Randy Orton farther over than he'd ever been before, and this time for good.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 10:55 AM

 
 
Blah blah blah, shut your fucking pie hole and GTFO if you don't like what you're watching

Posted By: Guinness (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 06:37 AM

Why, he clearly stated that he this was his first time in a while watching WWE. Not everyone is going to have a positive opinion about everything. Hell look at anything else wrestling not with WWE in the title


Posted By: Guest#5084 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 11:22 AM

 
 
Alot of us would just like to see Orton cut a promo on HHH humiliating him. Call HHH out on being a 40 year old dinosaur. Call him out for being 9 years past his prime (HHH was his best in 2000).

I mean, this is ridiculous. The top 3 matches at Wrestlemania are almost like a Wrestling Legends convention. HHH, HBJ, and Taker all over 40, Edge and Show damn near 40, and only Cena and Orton being what I would consider "prime."

Then the 4th match will inevitably be nearing 40 Jericho against a legend over 40.

That means that 7 of the top 9 guys at Wrestlemania will either be nearing 40 (Edge, Jericho, Wight) or over 40 (Taker, HBK, HHH, either Hogan or Austin, whoever wrestles Jericho).

It's just sad that they havent built anyone young up yet. And imagine if over 40 Batista was still here, he would likely be in Big Shows spot which would increase the age factor even more.


Posted By: miles (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 11:25 AM

 
 
Ok even if it is early for wrestlemania, it's safe to assume this is how the card is going to shape up.

MITB no explanation needed here.

Tag Team Title Unification match. The colons vs Mis and Morrison

ECW championship match. Christian vs Jack Swagger

Brother vs Brother. Matt Hardy vs Jeff Hardy

Undertaker vs HBK

Battle for diva supremecy or at least a title unification match. Melins WWE women's champion (which btw is the only legit title imo though that could be the mark side of me talking) vs Marysee the Divas champion. To make it interesting, they make the greatest women's champion of all time Trish Stratus as special guest referee.

Edge vs Big Show vs John Cena for the world championship.

Jericho Challenges any ledgend to a match of course Stone Cold shows up beats him down to the delight of the fans.

And finally, Triple H vs Randy Orton for the WWE Championship.

I could be wrong but that sounds like a fair prediction for Mania 25 again IMO


Posted By: King Of Kings (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 11:28 AM

 
 
Do people seriously want to see Cena vs. Edge #185 again? I think adding Big Show makes it better especially with the chemistry he has with Edge, plus I loved the U.S. Title match between Cena and Show a few years back.

Posted By: Guest#6568 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 11:28 AM

 
 
Hopefully, we get Edge-Show before WM and Edge-Cena 1-on-1 at WM. Show adds nothing to the ME, just detracts from it.

Koslov-Shawn was a 4/5 squash, then 3 moves by Shawn to win. Put that on the rook, not HBK.

Jericho can expect more backlot confrontations the way this is going. His heat is white-hot.

Concur that Morrison & Rey >>> Kane & Punk re MitB.

HHH-Orton is developing very nicely, with more layers added to their story this week.

Maryse-Melina? Really? So are we going to get a unification match at WM? OK. I like to look at Maryse and all, but there really should be a better wrestler representing SD than her. Though it would get rid of an unneccessary title...


Posted By: HBK's Smile (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 11:30 AM

 
 
Jericho needs to pick on Kevin Von Erich. That would set up a match at Wrestlemania that would make the Texas crowd would go nuts.

To see the claw finish Jericho in front of that crowd would be a huge pop.


Posted By: Coreyoni (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:08 PM

 
 
Maryse-Melina? Really? So are we going to get a unification match at WM? OK. I like to look at Maryse and all, but there really should be a better wrestler representing SD than her. Though it would get rid of an unneccessary title...

Posted By: HBK's Smile (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 11:30 AM



That's what I'm honestly hoping for. Seriously, that divas title is a disgrace to the women's division. Not to mention it looks all kinds of wrong.


Posted By: King Of Kings (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:33 PM

 
 
Why cant randy orton beat triple H? bring the WWE CHampionship back to raw

Posted By: wylung (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*Pauses to catch breath




BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Funniest post in days!

Posted By: Guest#4133 (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Yeah, Triple H would never put someone over. Unless you count his last five Wrestlemania matches.

Get over yourself.


Posted By: ravenite (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:48 PM

 
 
Sorry, four. I forgot he missed Wrestlemania 23.

Posted By: ravenite (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:49 PM

 
 
Dear WWE Creative,

Chris Jericho doesn't like the older, retired wrestlers. Fine. We get it. Please come up with something DIFFERENT for Chris Jericho to do, already.

Here's a thought; Put him in a match.

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Chico


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 12:57 PM

 
 
I think that WWE kind of booked themselves into a corner with the Triple H, Randy Orton feud. Triple H repeatedly bring up how he's fucked Orton over and over again in the past, was a great way to bait Orton into a match at WrestleMania. But it also builds up a justification for Orton's actions. Orton has as much of a reason for seeking revenge as Triple H does. Triple H explaining how he was envious of Orton's success and that he's not a good guy once again helps justify Orton's character. Finally Triple H saying he's going inflict a career ending, maybe life ending injury on Orton as pay back for RKOing his wife is an overreaction. Even Triple H Pedigreed Stephanie at WrestleMania X8! The RKO is a wrestling move, yet big bad Triple H is going to break Orton's neck for it? Orton's got nothing to lose if Triple H is going to try and kill him. All of this just seems like it's Randy Orton's story, not Triple H's!

Posted By: John (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:00 PM

 
 
Ouch. Sim's dad gets utterly embarrassed on the show he's nominally on, and not only does he not make the save, there's no mention of him by the announcers. Even more damning- 60+ comments in, and not a single commenter has mentioned this. Mission accomplished- even the hardcore fans have already forgotten him. Why didn't they just fire him along with Manu?

Posted By: Sucks to be Sim (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:00 PM

 
 
So Jericho beat up Snuka, where was Sim? Your old man is getting pummled, and you don't come out and help? It could have at least set up a little match between Sim and Jericho, sure not a 5 star classic, but could have played into the storyline.
Also, Kozlov gets absolutely zero reaction. How does he still have a job, the audience doesn't care about him. His lack of heat is worse than X-Pac heat. How long have they been building him, and nobody cares about him.


Posted By: DC (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:11 PM

 
 
The inevitable Mania match, whatever it might be in reference to Chris Jericho will probably be with Stone Cold. He mentioned the only guy he would be comfortable wrestling with again would be Jericho. Wouldn't be suprised since he is going into the HOF.

Posted By: arawhoos (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:21 PM

 
 
Man, not even Shawn could get a good match out of Kozlov. The middle where Kozlov had control was so boring it made me wonder, "Did I leave the oven on"?

The end with Big Show being the #1 contender was confusing and lame, althouh I guess it makes sense of the storyline they were building up with him and Edge. Although why blow off Cena-Edge on RAW and waste it?


Posted By: Guest#5753 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 01:39 PM

 
 
how is big show the #1 contender when john cena JUST beat the champion by DQ?

Posted By: anon (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 02:16 PM

 
 
Maryse's playboy pictures are hot. shes a babe.

Posted By: Guest#8912 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 02:44 PM

 
 
Anybody find it strange Sim Snuka let his dad get whupped on and humiliated?

Posted By: Mark (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 02:51 PM

 
 
"So, Orton looks like a chickenshit by first chickening out of a match with HHH, deciding to have him arrested, THEN have HHH come out to bait him into the fight... which he accepts on the condition that they don't touch each other for a month.

Way to make the heel look strong.

Posted By: Joe (Guest"

Idiot. He's a heel. He's supposed to be a chickenshit, hence the term, chickenshit heel. He's supposed to stab HHH in the back, hit him while he's down and avoid a fair fight. It's why we hate him and why we want to see HHH tear his head off. Unless you have a monster heel, they are supposed to be chickenshits.


Posted By: Guest#3044 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 03:04 PM

 
 
"Anybody find it strange Sim Snuka let his dad get whupped on and humiliated?

Posted By: Mark (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 02:51 PM"

Yeah, apparently only 3 of us found it strange. And lord knows the "creative" team couldn't actually put 2 & 2 together.


Posted By: DC (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 03:41 PM

 
 
No no no, Cena won't be added to the WHC match. All the Hogan rumors will play out to be true and we will see Cena-Hogan at WM25.
As for Jericho, did you see how irate Jerry Lawler was last night? I'm pretty sure that they will follow through with the whole Y2J-King idea.

So far though, this WM is shaping up pretty nicely which has a lot to do with the great booking as of late. Even though RKO-HHH have been done many times before, I'm looking forward to the match b/c it has been booked flawlessly...thus far.


Posted By: Disgruntled Bill Cosby Sweater (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 04:16 PM

 
 
Yes yes Sim Snuka vs Jericho at WM25!! Book it dadio before I crack you in the mouth!

Maryse is Smmmmokin Hot. I want to see her and Mickey James in a match...NICE!

EDGE RULES...but come on not even he can carry both Big Show and Cena in a match together....Regardless as long as he retains the title!


Posted By: DCFlash (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 04:21 PM

 
 
Sim could always confront Y2J next week.

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 05:16 PM

 
 
No no no, Cena won't be added to the WHC match. All the Hogan rumors will play out to be true and we will see Cena-Hogan at WM25.
As for Jericho, did you see how irate Jerry Lawler was last night? I'm pretty sure that they will follow through with the whole Y2J-King idea.

So far though, this WM is shaping up pretty nicely which has a lot to do with the great booking as of late. Even though RKO-HHH have been done many times before, I'm looking forward to the match b/c it has been booked flawlessly...thus far.

Posted By: Disgruntled Bill Cosby Sweater (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 04:16 PM

Yes 2009 version of 1980's hogan vs Hogan great booking there! I would not watch wm if that was the main event. At this point, I would not watch wwe anymore if cena main events or wins another top title!!


Posted By: guest1228 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 06:26 PM

 
 
Wish people would lay off Koslov. The guy's a perfectly fine wrestler, and did his share with HBK, as he's done while he's been with the company. Fans get it in their heads that he's big so can't work, or let the internet tell them how to feel about certain guys. He's damn good wrestler. Lay off, douchebags.

Posted By: kaktus316 (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 06:50 PM

 
 
No no no, Cena won't be added to the WHC match. All the Hogan rumors will play out to be true and we will see Cena-Hogan at WM25.
As for Jericho, did you see how irate Jerry Lawler was last night? I'm pretty sure that they will follow through with the whole Y2J-King idea.

So far though, this WM is shaping up pretty nicely which has a lot to do with the great booking as of late. Even though RKO-HHH have been done many times before, I'm looking forward to the match b/c it has been booked flawlessly...thus far.

Posted By: Disgruntled Bill Cosby Sweater (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 04:16 PM

Oh yeah, that is the way to bring in PPV buyrates....put Jerry Lawler in a match with Y2J..woooo!!! The world is clamoring for it!! Geez anyone would be better than Lawler


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 07:09 PM

 
 
Looks like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree after all. Flashback ten years ago Kevin Nash ending Goldberg's undefeated streak . HBK taught him well.

Posted By: jokerdoom (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Are there really people on this site that would compare Goldberg to Kozlov?!? Seriously?? Goldberg was the face of WCW during the Monday Night Wars....Kozlov's "undefeated streak" (even though pinned in the EC) is just like WWE's plethora of streaks (Kurt Angle, Umaga, etc.) Lasts 4 or 5 months and then it's done...who cares?


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 07:11 PM

 
 
Boston usually has great pops. They're usually one of the most fired up and last night was nothing, but kids their. My friend and I were actually told to "zip it" several times last night when we were cheering by the lady in front of us.

Posted By: C. (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 07:19 PM

 
 
So far, WrestleMania 25 is shaping up to be two EXCELLENT ****+ matches (Triple H/Orton and Taker/Michaels)... but the rest of the card looks EXTREMELY CRAPTACULAR at best.

Big Show suddenly in the SmackDown Title match with Edge and Cena? Mark Henry and Kane in MITB instead of Rey Mysterio and John Morrison? JERRY FREAKING LAWLER as the rumored payoff to the Chris Jericho legend angle (and opponent at WrestleMania) instead of Austin, Hogan, Flair, or even a debuting/returning second generation Superstar like Harry Smith? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!

So that's basically 2 "WrestleMania XVII caliber" matches (featuring Triple H and Shawn Michaels, what a coincidence!) and 3 "potentially WrestleMania IX bad" matches headlining the undercard. Methinks Mr. Levesque may be quietly throwing political clout around backstage again to give himself and HBK the best WrestleMania matches possible and make the rest of the WrestleMania Card look AS WEAK AS POSSIBLE in comparison.


Posted By: Revenge of the Huntor (Guest)  on March 03, 2009 at 09:05 PM

 
 
"Another attitude adjuster is countered and Edge locks in a sharpshooter."

It's called the "Edgeucator", my misinformed friend.
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Posted By: Thomas (Guest)  on March 04, 2009 at 12:42 AM

 
 
I have to say, all, I did mark out when I saw the old school Piper's Pit set, even though it is a replica of it, WWE did a damn good job of re-creating it. I did have a sneaking suspicion it was going to get destroyed though.

Posted By: Oldschool918 (Guest)  on March 04, 2009 at 02:02 AM

 
 
so shawn micheals..1. retires flair,2. ends koslov's streak ,and attempts to end THE STREAK? next, he'll be revealed as the father of step's kids

oh yeah ,what edge did monday WAS the sharpshooter..the edgecator was a diff variation with him facing the opponent

wait..are we really gonna have a champ vs champ match with 2 of the worst female champs? neihart,phoenix,mc cool, sheez bring back molly holly or something(one shot deal of course)


Posted By: wham bam bigelow (Guest)  on March 04, 2009 at 02:03 AM

 
 
Mickie was the original obsessed diva back in the day with Trish! So Rosa can be seen as Mickie #2 by observing this angle!

Posted By: Fabian (Guest) on March 03, 2009 at 02:46 AM

Actually it was Victoria and that also involved Trish.


Posted By: SDvsR10(Guest) (Guest)  on March 04, 2009 at 07:37 AM

 
 
come one everyone, we know what's coming for Jericho at Mania. He will trash and humiliate a couple more "legends", then, in about two weeks he will go out to the ring, talk about 10 mins, how he's straightened everyone of the old fogies out, there's no one left to challenge him, etc, "real american" hits, crowd goes apeshit, focus on gorilla postion for a minute, no one's there, Jericho's thinks he's being messed with, camera pans back to gorilla position, music geta little louder, Hogan comes out, crowd goes triple apeshit, Hogan comes to ring, poses, (qusruple apeshit),looks down at Jericho, "Well, brother, you're running your mouth...blah blah, match is made, it's in the middle of the card, Hogan gets his ass kicked for about 7 minutes, gets a hope spot, they go out on the floor for a bit, Jericho pounds him some more, goes for the Walls, Hogan hulks up, chest slap puncn irish whip, legdrop ONE TWO THREE! Crowd goes apeshit, Jericho rolls out of the ring, Hogan poses for about 8 minutes, Jericho goes back to singing with Fozzy for awhile. Am I close, Vince? :P

Posted By: bruce (Guest)  on March 04, 2009 at 07:57 PM

 


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