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411's WWE Raw Report 03.16.09
Posted by Rob McNew on 03.16.2009



-So here we go now just three weeks out from Wrestlemania 25, and another huge edition of Raw set for this evening. No one actually believes that Ric Flair will come out of retirement tonight, but there is certainly some intrigue on if we will finally find out who is Chris Jericho's Wrestlemania opponent. Kozlov & JBL take on Taker & HBK as we continue the build toward both Taker and Shawn, and also whatever historic plans JBL has for Wrestlemania. Also I'm sure we'll get some hijinx from the participants in both World Title matches.

-Live from AT&T Center in San Antonio, TX

-Hosted by Michael Cole & Jerry "The King" Lawler

-No memorial graphic for Andrew "Test" Martin to start to the show. Kind of surprising I would say. Maybe something is planned for later.

-We open up with a recap of last week's Edge/Big Show/John Cena contract signing.

-Cena vs. Edge with Vickie Guerrero as special guest referee in a non-title match is announced as tonight's main event.

Shawn Michaels & The Undertaker vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield & Vladimir Kozlov
We get started with the advertised main event right off the bat. Shawn's pre match pose is interrupted by his tag team partner's entrance. Shawn and Kozlov start things off. Kozlov shoves Shawn into the corner, and Shawn asks for a tag. Taker refuses, so Shawn jumps on Kozlov. They scramble and Shawn jumps into the corner forcing the tag. Taker delivers a big boot to Kozlov in the corner, and delivers a clothesline. Taker hits another clothesline sending Kozlov over the top to the floor as we head to break. Back from commercial and Shawn tags in delivering a series of chops to JBL. Shawn hits the ropes delivering a flying forearm, and is back up with a nip up. Bodyslam puts JBL down, and Shawn heads to the top rope delivering the flying elbow. Shawn tunes up the band, but Kozlov provides a distraction and JBL hits a big boot. Tag to Kozlov who is in with a series of elbows. Shawn gets thrown into the corner, and Kozlov charges into a boot. Shawn goes for a whip to the corner, but Kozlov reverses and Shawn hits the buckles. Series of headbutts and a sambo throw gets two for Kozlov. Tag to JBL who delivers a series of rights in the corner, and a brutal clothesline gets two. Tag to Kozlov who comes in with a bearhug. Shawn punches his way out, and delivers a pair of chops. Shawn comes off the ropes and counters a chokeslam attempt into a DDT. Kozlov makes the tag to JBL, but Shawn gets the hot tag to Taker. Taker whips JBL into the buckle, and charges with a splash. To the other corner with another splash goes JBL, and that sets up old school. Taker knocks Kozlov off the apron, and again whips JBL into the corner before delivering snake eyes. Big boot and legdrop connects as Takermania is running wild. Taker goes for the chokeslam, but Shawn tags in and delivers sweet chin music to pick up the win at 9:19. Taker furious at Shawn for stealing the win chases him back to the locker room. Taker's music plays, and Taker looks back to the ring allowing Shawn to sneak back out and deliver sweet chin music to Taker! I guess that's a pseudo heel turn for HBK? Crowd goes nuts for it, but they are in San Antonio.
Winners: Shawn Michaels & The Undertaker (Shawn pins JBL-Sweet Chin Music **)

-Vickie is in her office, when Edge stops by to pay her a visit. Vickie doesn't know what to say, as she hasn't talked to him in a week. Vickie says she's feels horrible, and Edge tells her to stop talking. Edge tells her he's got something he wants to tell her. Edge forgives her. Vickie tells Edge that Big Show forced himself on her, and she had no choice. Edge says he gets it, and tells Vickie that Big Show doesn't love her. He's just using her to further his career. Edge says Big Show is nothing but a home wrecker and he will pay. Edge says what they have is real. Vickie is speechless, so Edge tells her he doesn't even blame Big Show. He blames Cena, because it wouldn't bother him if he didn't know. Cena tried to humiliate her, and ruin her life. Vickie says she wants Edge to take Cena apart, and if Cena lays a hand on her even accidentally he's out of the match at Wrestlemania. Edge tells Vickie Cena and Big Show can't take away what they have. Vickie tells Edge she really hopes he wins at Wrestlemania, and then they embrace.

-Recap of the Orton-HHH house invasion from last week is shown. After the recap package Lawler states that Randy Orton chose not to press charges. Of course he didn't.

-Todd Grisham is with The Legacy, and asks Orton why he dropped the charges. Orton says HHH is a homicidal maniac. He broke into his house, scared the TV crew, terrorized the neighborhood, and traumatized his wife. Orton says she may never be the same. He states HHH was charged with Assault with a deadly weapon, breaking and entering, and aggravated assault. Orton says HHH could have went to prison, and paid his debt to society. He says he wouldn't have paid his debt to Orton. Orton states that at Wrestlemania the debt will be paid. Orton says at Wrestlemania it will be Orton's law.

Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, & Layla (w. Santino Marella & Rosa Mendez) vs. Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, & Melina
Santino graces us on commentary and calls Mickie a shrumpkin. For those wondering that would be a shrimp and a pumpkin. Beth starts out with Mickie, and Mickie takes over with a series of forearms. Mickie delivers a kick, and knocks Jillian off the apron. Beth comes back and knocks Mickie down. Snap mare gets two for Phoenix and she locks in a dragon sleeper. Mickie counters out with a flip, but runs into a shoulderblock. Beth misses an elbow drop, and Mickie tags Melina. Melina knocks the other two heels off the apron, and hits a springboard elbow on Beth. Facebuster from Melina gets a two count, and then she gets a double boot in the corner. Melina connects with a seated senton off the second rope, but Beth comes back with a sidewalk slam for two. Mickie makes the save, and gets pulled to the floor by the heel divas. Santino goes to get involved but Mickie goes downstairs with a kick. Beth tries to pull Mickie back into the ring, but Melina rolls her up for the win at 2:56. Layla, Jillian, and Kelly never even stepped in the ring. Awful match.
Winners: Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, & Melina (Melina pins Beth-Rollup DUD)

-Another "12 Rounds" trailer is shown.

Triple H vs. Cody Rhodes
Cody comes out by himself, but after his entrance Orton and Dibiase come out to watch from the ramp. Cody tries a sneak attack, but gets a double leg takedown by HHH. HHH follows to the floor and drives Rhodes into the ringsteps, the barrier, and the announce table. HHH fires Rhodes inside and gets the sledgehammer from underneath the ring. Orton and Dibiase come towards the ring and HHH dares them to come in. HHH delivers a pedigree to Rhodes, and then calls for a steel cage to be lowered!?!? HHH chases Orton and Dibiase away and then slides back in as the cage surrounds the ring. The announcers act shocked as if they couldn't see the fucking cage hanging above the ring. The referee calls for the bell and I guess this is a cage match now? HHH pounds away at Cody, as Orton attempts to climb inside. HHH fires Cody into the cage knocking Cody off. Dibiase tries to climb inside, but Cody again goes flying into the cage knocking him off. They try to climb again, and HHH again uses Cody to knock them off. HHH threatens Orton with the sledgehammer, and Dibiase almost makes it in. HHH knocks Dibiase to the floor with the sledgehammer. HHH tells Orton to watch and blasts Orton in the head with the sledgehammer. That gets the victory officially at 2:18. I guess the story here is that HHH being a McMahon has the power to make this thing a cage match. After the match HHH climbs to the top of the cage and stares down at Orton and Dibiase. The segment was very effective if you can get over that there was a cage hanging above the ring that no one knew was there.
Winner: Triple H (Pinfall-Sledgehammer Shot *)

-A limousine arrives at the arena carrying Ric Flair

Rey Mysterio vs. Dolph Ziggler
Dolph gets the "already in the ring" jobber entrance. Dolph introduces himself before the match, and then grabs an arm wringer. Ziggler connects with a clothesline, and delivers a bodyslam. Ziggler connects with a series of elbow drops, and tries to get the pin with a boot to the chest. Cole announces that Mysterio has challenged JBL for an Intercontinental Title match at Wrestlemania. Ziggler locks in a full nelson, and Rey counters out with a chin buster. Rey delivers a pair of kicks from his back, and then hurracanrana's Ziggler into the ringpost. Springboard seated senton connects for Rey, and is followed by a rana which sets up the 619. 619 connects and Rey finishes with a top rope splash at 2:15. I guess Rey really is healthy after his injury scare this past weekend.
Winner: Rey Mysterio (Pinfall-Top Rope Splash ½*)

-Chris Jericho is out to the ring in his ring gear to see if Ric Flair will answer his challenge. Jericho says thanks to Flair's interference he isn't going to Wrestlemania. Flair stole his chance at immortality and is left with nothing. That's why he challenged Flair to face him right now tonight, as this will be his Wrestlemania. Jericho says its pathetically obvious he can't stay on the sidelines. He's giving him a chance to come out retirement tonight. Jericho says Flair always says to be the man you have to beat the man, but Flair's not a man he's a joke. He says Flair is a pathetic washed up has been, but tonight Jericho is giving him what he's been waiting for. A chance to relive the glory one last time. He asks Flair to come back one last time, and take his chance. Finally that brings Flair out, and to the surprise of absolutely no one he's not in his gear. Flair tells Jericho even though he knows he can beat him he is officially retired as an active competitor. Flair says make no mistake however, he will always be the man. Flair says he will not tarnish that great retirement and send off given to him last year. Flair says he won't let the people down who made that night the greatest of his career. Flair says he can't wrestle Jericho, but he has found some men who can. Flair brings out Jimmy Snuka, Ricky Steamboat, and Roddy Piper. The four men head to the ring and surround the ring. They all come in the ring and surround Jericho. Steamboat takes down Jericho, and he bails to the floor where he is met with a right hand from Flair. Jericho heads to the locker room, and we STILL don't have a Wrestlemania match for him.

-Todd Grisham catches up with Jericho who says what we just saw proved his point. All these legends can't hang it up, and keep seeking the spotlight. Jericho asks why he would be embarrassed, and then he gets a thought. He challenges Snuka, Piper, and Steamboat to a match at Wrestlemania…and the crowd goes mild. Jericho asks Flair to be in the corner of the legends, because the pain he inflicts on the has beens is on his hands. Jericho also says he will buy Mickey Rourke a front row ticket, and unlike the ending to "The Wrestler" it won't be ambigious. It will be tragic.

Kofi Kingston, Montel Vontavious Porter, & CM Punk vs. Shelton Benjamin, Mark Henry, & Kane
Christian, Finlay, and Hornswoggle join us on commentary for this one. Benjamin and Kofi start out, and Shelton grabs an armbar. Kofi kicks out of that, and rolls up Shelton for a two count. Shelton delivers a clothesline and tags in Henry. Headbutt connects for Henry who follows up with a kick to the ribs. Headbutt connects in the corner, and Kofi gets whipped to the corner. Kofi moves from a charge, and delivers a boot to Henry. Tag to MVP who is in with a pair of dropkicks sending Henry to the corner for a tag to Kane. Kane comes in and gets a drop toehold into the corner. MVP hits the corner boot, but Shelton comes in to provide a distraction. That brings everyone in as we head to commercial. Back from break and Kane has Kofi in a backbreaker submission across his knee. Kofi comes out and walks into a sidewalk slam for two. Shelton tags in and delivers a belly-to-belly suplex. Shelton grabs a abdominal stretch, and Kofi hiplocks out of it. Tag to Punk who comes in off the top with a clothesline. Dropkick connects for Punk, and he follows up with a running knee in the corner. Bulldog gets two as Kane makes the save. Kofi comes in and delivers a rana to Kane sending him to the floor. Tony Atlas provides a distraction, and MVP botches what was supposed to be pulling Shelton to the ropes, Punk hits the GTS anyway which finishes at 8:16. Nothing great, but nothing terrible either.
Winners: Kofi Kingston, Montel Vontavious Porter, & CM Punk (Punk pins Shelton-GTS **)

-Vickie finds Big Show in her office, and asks what he's doing there. Vickie tells him she has him all figured out. Show tells her that's not true, and reminds her that she pursued him not the other way around. Show says he's anatomically superior to Edge. Vickie says Edge tells her one thing and Show tells her another. Show tells Vickie that Edge accused him of doing the same thing that he is doing. Show tells her that he loves her and he's going to prove it. Show seals the deal with a kiss and tells her she looks very sexy in that referee shirt.

-Rundown of the Wrestlemania Card as it stands so far. Shawn vs. Taker, Hardy vs. Hardy, Show vs. Cena vs. Edge, & HHH vs. Orton. They don't mention them but it appears that in addition to Money in the Bank we're now getting Mysterio vs. JBL and Jericho vs. The Nursing Home Wrecking Crew.

-Grisham asks HHH how he got Vickie Guerrero to cooperate with him to lower the cage. He doesn't respond, but when he gets in the car Steph is waiting for him. That's actually a very good job of explaining that.

Edge vs. John Cena
Special guest referee Vickie Guerrero heads to the ring as we head to commercial. The stipulation here is that if Cena touches Vickie, even by accident, he is out of the Wrestlemania main event. Edge wearing the alternate purple uniform as this is a road game for him. Bell rings at 11 PM on the nose, which doesn't bode, well for this getting much time. Edge grabs a headlock, but Cena comes out with a wristlock. Edge delivers a crushing right hand to take control and hammers away in the corner. Edge fires Cena into the buckle, but Cena reverses a whip to the corner and fights back with a fisherman's suplex. Cena goes for the cover, but Vickie refuses to count. Cena gets in Vickie's face, and that allows Edge to attack from behind with a double axe handle and a series of boots. Cena fights back, and hits the ropes, but gets thrown over the top to the floor. Edge goes out after him and fires Cena into the announce table before whipping him into the ringsteps. Edge fires Cena back inside, and sets up for the spear. Cena moves out of the way of the spear and explodes with a pair of shoulder tackles. Cena goes for the five knuckle shuffle, but Vickie lies down on top of Edge She gets up too early and Cena delivers it anyway. Cena goes for the attitude adjuster, but Vickie pulls Edge off Cena's shoulders. Cena goes for the STF, but Vickie jumps on his back. That brings out Big Show, and he and Edge double team Cena. They tie Cena up in the ropes, and Edge delivers the spear. Vickie smacks Cena around after that, and Show delivers a trio of right hands to the gut before delivers two versions of the knockout blow. Show celebrates, and Edge spears him out of nowhere. Edge stands in the middle as the show goes off the air.
No Contest

-Really not a good show this week at all. The Michaels-Taker stuff was really good at the outset, but it was all downhill from there. The HHH-Orton build was virtually non-existant this week. The Jericho announcment was a HUGE letdown, and the Edge-Cena match turned out to be nothing more than an angle. They really need to kick it into high gear these last two weeks, because what started out as an amazing build has really stalled lately. Next week I will be at Raw in Kansas City, and will not be here for the report. 411's Randy Harrison will be filling in for me, so play nice kids and we'll see ya on the 30th.


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Edge spearing Big Show is EPIC FAIL!

Posted By: Guest#6512 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:16 PM

 
 
EPIC STALE!~

Posted By: Guest#8544 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
really bad this week

Posted By: jeff (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
Fuck you wrestling fans!
Raw sucked major dick tonight and any body who liked this piece of trash is a fucking moronic Hardy boy fan!
Man I miss the old days when guys like Bastion Booger The Gobblede Gooker and Katie Vick were kicking ass and taking names they certainly would go out their pummel dipshits like Edge into oblivion!
Me and my friends ladder06, klonidier, Jeshire and randzilla25 all agree that raw has sucked major ass since they stopped doing the Katie Vick angle and shoved assholes like Randy Orton Edge Christian Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy and especially Batista down our throats!
Those people are the reason why the WWE is horrible right now and things aren’t gonna get any better as long as you morons continue to support this drivel!
And if you retards have any problem with that than come to my Youtube page (nopureone1) and take it up with me!
Unless of course you’re to chicken to go!
(Makes chicken clucking noise)


Posted By: nopureone1 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
Where did Rey Mysterio come from? All I saw was Cobra Commander coming down the ramp to Rey's entrance.

Posted By: Guest#3180 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM

 
 
I'll be facing Jericho! And in my corner, there would be Mayor McCheese, the Hamburglar, Grimace, Birdie the Early Bird, and The Fry Kids!!

FEAR US!!!


Posted By: Ronald McDonald (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM

 
 
LMAO @ Vicky's STF on Cena

Posted By: Guest#2158 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:24 PM

 
 
Is it just me or is it bothersome to anyone else that Test was't even mentioned throughout the show. Heck,the WWE even did a tribute to Louis Spicoli who had little to no career with the WWE. What a crap move.

Yeah, what a let down about the Jericho vs Legends match. I have to stop reading 411mania, you guys put the thought of Austin or Hogan into my head...now WM is ruined!!!


Posted By: chris (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:26 PM

 
 
Did RVD sign or was that a one shot deal?

Posted By: greenie (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:32 PM

 
 
Vickie Guerrero with the crossface, shades of Chris Benoit.

Posted By: Jim Ross (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:34 PM

 
 
"Is it just me or is it bothersome to anyone else that Test was't even mentioned throughout the show. Heck,the WWE even did a tribute to Louis Spicoli who had little to no career with the WWE. What a crap move."

Posted By: chris (Guest)

I'd have to agree with you. I thought that at least there would be a mention at some point. Pretty much everyone else I can think of who died over the years got at least the graphics note. I'm almost positive of it. Some even received a memorial video...but it makes me wonder why this man was not acknowledged even once.


Posted By: Stephanie (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM

 
 
WOOO!!! Way to go nopureone1 you are the man! As the man said Raw sucked ass and so do all you people! Shawn Michaels vs the Undertaker sucked dick in the late 90's and it certaintly sucks dick today as well! And hey you too can onto my Youtube page as well if you have you’re man enough to face me losers! HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Oh and J.D. Dunn is WAY better than McNew.


Posted By: klonidier (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:38 PM

 
 
Finally Cody Rhodes got the spanking he's needed for a long time now.It was to bad he was unconscious at the time.I hope Hardcore Holly was watching. It will be a pleasure to see Chris Jericho get whats coming to him on April 5 and poor Vickie to get dumped by two guys on April 6.

Posted By: Guest#9958 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:40 PM

 
 
Hmmm, remember when Orton was the hottest thing in wrestling?

Seems like a lifetime ago....


Posted By: Brad (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM

 
 
I'm not surprised WWE didn't mention Test's death. He'd just completed rehab, and if it's revealed he died of drug overdose? The E still remembers the fallout after the Benoit Tribute show.

Posted By: Spanky Mobster (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 PM

 
 
I still say any time some performer of any significance at all to World Wrestling Entertainment dies, not only should they acknowledge it, they should ring the final ten bells. ON camera.
And Test was a multiple-time champion and in the thick of storylines all over the place. He counts.
And Chris, I could swear I've heard that the WWF acknowledged the death of Brian Hildebrand (Mark Curtis) and he never worked there a day in his life. And I've been told WCW rang a *three*-bell salute for Owen Hart, and again, he worked there for less than a cup of coffee's time as I recall.
They had better have something on ECW, or Christian should catch a sick day in protest, at least.


Posted By: MadmanJack (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 PM

 
 
Do you think Kozlov ever has nightmares where he's suddenly in school wearing nothing but all of his clothing?

Posted By: The Grundle (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:49 PM

 
 
This just in TNA has signed Mickey Rourke and David Arquette to written contracts.
It appears Russo has a storyline that will pit Rourke siding with the Main Event Mafia and Arquette will be part of the Frontline.
rumor has it Rourke signed after he learned he would be booked to win the title off of Sting this Thursday on Impact.

With Mickey Rourke and David Arquette recently signing contracts it has been rumored that TNA stars Sting and Kurt Angle are going to be going under major gimmick changes with Sting portraying Video Game megastar Zelda and Angle will portray Mega Man


Posted By: WrassleZone (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:51 PM

 
 
Terrible, terrible show. I too was pissed they didn't even mention Test.

As it is now, the only way Wrestlemania will be any good will be if the creative team is in a train wreck and forced to eat each other to survive. I'd rather watch Destination X than this abomination which is being called Wrestlemania.

P.S.

Jericho vs the Nursing Home Wrecking Crew is a very nice line. Good job.


Posted By: I'd Rather Watch the View (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:51 PM

 
 
I wonder if after jumping the gun on Benoit, Vince is a little gun-shy about acknowledging anybody's death on air until all the facts (or maybe even until the autopsy reports) are in. Test's father did say that there were no indications of violence or suicide in an interview with Canadian news, but that's not an official acknowledgement.

Posted By: JeffS (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM

 
 
Kelly likely didn't actually work the match because of Test's death.

I was kind of surprised they even sent her out there, other than the fact that it seems we've seen Melina/Mickie vs. Beth/Jillian a few thousand times now.


Posted By: Good Robot Cena (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:56 PM

 
 
Good lord was this weeks Raw horrendous. I mean the show has been getting worse and worse but this was the mother of all shistain shows. The WWE and TNA are competing on who can put on worse shows. I swear so far '09 has been as bad a year for Wrestling in the big two as 1995 was in Wcw and The WWE. I could care less about Cody Rhodes but boy did he get buried. How was HHH no dqed? I mean Jericho a few months ago got dqed for grabbing Kofi Kingston's tights. Hell guys get dqed for bringing in a weapon but HHH drills Cody with the sledgehammer and nothing happens. I think Barry Horowitz got more offense when he got squashed. I can't say I'm happy with a handicaop match at Wrestlemania with Piper , Steamboat and Snuka Vs Jericho. I mean even Lawler Vs Jericho would be better than this. Piper and Snuka have embarrassed themselves 1000 times getting in the ring past their prime so no big deal there I can't say I wanna see Steamboat do that too. Ayt least if he's getting back in the ring for the first time 1n 15 years at least make it one on one. How many times have Cena and Edge wrestled now? A million times? It wasn't much of a match either. I had laugh when Vickie jumped on Cena and placed him in a sort of crossface. Man the build to the two world title matches has been wretched as well as the build to the entire ppv.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:58 PM

 
 
Did Ricky Steamboat resign or was it a one shot deal?

Posted By: Billiam (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:58 PM

 
 
Fuck you wrestling fans!
Raw sucked major dick tonight and any body who liked this piece of trash is a fucking moronic Hardy boy fan!
Man I miss the old days when guys like Bastion Booger The Gobblede Gooker and Katie Vick were kicking ass and taking names they certainly would go out their pummel dipshits like Edge into oblivion!
Me and my friends ladder06, klonidier, Jeshire and randzilla25 all agree that raw has sucked major ass since they stopped doing the Katie Vick angle and shoved assholes like Randy Orton Edge Christian Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy and especially Batista down our throats!
Those people are the reason why the WWE is horrible right now and things aren’t gonna get any better as long as you morons continue to support this drivel!
And if you retards have any problem with that than come to my Youtube page (nopureone1) and take it up with me!
Unless of course you’re to chicken to go!
(Makes chicken clucking noise)
_________________________________

LOL! You stupid incompetent jackass.


Posted By: MK (Guest)  on March 16, 2009 at 11:59 PM

 
 
I'd have to agree with you. I thought that at least there would be a mention at some point. Pretty much everyone else I can think of who died over the years got at least the graphics note. I'm almost positive of it. Some even received a memorial video...but it makes me wonder why this man was not acknowledged even once.

Posted By: Stephanie (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM

They are foolishly trying to distance themselves from a perceived embarrassment. Too late though, just about every story has linked them to Martin. The ESPN story had WWE in the headline. All in all, short-sighted and pretty classless move here. The graphic was all they needed to do.


Posted By: Common Sense (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:02 AM

 
 
I could've SWORN Austin was coming out at two or three different points in that Jericho segment.

Fucking BULLSHIT.


Posted By: The REAL MP (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM

 
 
I admit that Raw wasn't that good a show this week. And looking at the spoilers to Impact, that don't look like too good a show either. Unless Smackdown looks good this week, then this just might be a bad week for wrestling overall.

Posted By: Rob Z (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:20 AM

 
 
LOL, not a good show this week??? Its stunk for the past few. Although I'll say this, I DVRed it and fast forwarded through...well the majority of it, and it made it tolerable. The WMXV highlights during a commercial break were definitely the highlight of this show.

Posted By: Butters4Prez (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:26 AM

 
 
mark out moment of the column... "will not be here for the report. 411's Randy Harrison will be filling in for me"

thank friggin god


Posted By: christy (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:28 AM

 
 
Spoiler*** Gail Kim was among the divas pictured in the Battle Royal promo image.

Posted By: Guest#7327 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM

 
 
The WWE probably wants to distance themselves from Test's death as much as possible. Not a very classy move but probably fiscally responsible.

Posted By: Justin (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:38 AM

 
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. WWE needs to write hornswoggle off the show, he is the most annoying character on all three brands. Maybe if they let him act like an adult instead of a retarded kid who grunts all the time, it is annoying as hell

Posted By: Guest#3255 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:39 AM

 
 
They couldn't even have an "In Memory of" still at the start of the show for Test?

Posted By: Guest#4040 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:40 AM

 
 
I would like to mention the Austin WM XV tribute right after the Jericho segment...jsut saying, even though theres only two friggin weeks left

Posted By: K.O.W. (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:47 AM

 
 
Orton feuding with HHH is killing his persona that he built up.

He was becoming such a badass uber cool heel now he's gone back to chicken shit pussy and acting like HHH's bitch. If WWE had any sense he would dominate HHH at every corner and beat him cleanly at WM.... then WWE could be thinking possibly about the next TRUE breakout star, even if that were not to occur they've ruined all possibility of that potentially happening.


Posted By: Andrew Barbarash (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM

 
 
I can't say enough how dissapointing the last few weeks have been for the WWE. When Orton RKO'd Stephanie and HHH looked like his head was going to explode in rage, I marked out like a school boy. At that moment, despite being a retread of an old fued, the WM25 main event would be can't miss. How silly of me to forget that this is the WWE we are talking about. What a disaster.

And what is arguably even worse is the payoff for the Y2J angle. All those weeks of great promos and nuclear fan heat have led up to a handicap match against 3 broken down 60 year old men? Really? That's the payoff for this angle? Not only is that going to be an abortion of a match, and a waste of a hot heel at their biggest show, but it also has backed them into a huge corner. The fans are clamoring for evil dickhead Jericho to get his ass kicked, and thats the natural completion of the angle, but if Jericho gets pinned by an old man it destroys any credibility he has. Even with it being a handicap match. Snuka can barely even walk! It could be called a handicap match not because its 3 on 1, but because of piper, snuka, and steamboats special parking permits.Are people really buying the PPV to see arrogant Jericho beat up by 60 year old men? How does Jericho win? It defies the natural conclusion of the angle! But if he loses to these guys, even with the inevitable flair/rourke interference, isn't that a career killer? I am flabbergasted that this match is the best they can come up with, and I am praying that there is another suprise down the road to change this match and spare jericho and the wwe's fans from this potential disaster.


Posted By: CF (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:56 AM

 
 
Triple H vs. Cody Rhodes
why use a cage if your going to smack some bastard with a sledgie anyway < slaps forehead > Doh this HUNTARD the RESTARD we are talking about ...... heads up Cody you just got BERRIED


Posted By: HHH Hater (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 01:25 AM

 
 
I must say, the highlight of the night was that amazing yellow Carlton shirt that some fan had on. I couldn't take my eyes off it.

Posted By: WMD (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 01:35 AM

 
 
This'll be K-Money's show of the week...thank god for ROH on HDNet.

Posted By: Guest#7562 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 01:56 AM

 
 
In case anyone didn't notice, the RAW side plate on the WWE championship belt has been replaced by a new second "WWE Champion" side plate. I've read it on wikipedia about the change but I didn't notice it until tonight when there was a close up of the new side plate.

The undisputed belt design only lasted three years ('02-'05), and the Attitude era big eagle design lasted four years ('98-'02). Cena's toy belt is about to pass the four year mark next month. This is sad that it has lasted this long because of people keep buying those damn replicas so much. But I guess with the WHC still around, they can get away with having one top belt looking like a toy.


Posted By: ghostly (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:00 AM

 
 
You should review RAW next week with a live perception of the show that'd be cool.

Posted By: Klossing (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:08 AM

 
 
Trips is burying Orton, same as he did to Jericho when he was Undisputed Champion. He totally neuters the over heel, makes them look like his bitch. Took Jericho till last year to get his credibility back.

Posted By: furey (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:12 AM

 
 
I'll be facing Jericho! And in my corner, there would be Mayor McCheese, the Hamburglar, Grimace, Birdie the Early Bird, and The Fry Kids!!

FEAR US!!!

Posted By: Ronald McDonald (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM


Yeah except Vince will change the outcome after Mayor McCheese reveals the ending to a bunch of kids in a McDonalds the night before WM because he became really wired after drinking too many orange sodas


Posted By: Guest#5384 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:18 AM

 
 
Do you know hat would be funny? If they had Charlie Haas wrestle Jericho at Wrestlemania but Haas was dressed like Hulk Hogan. They could call him Haas Hogan and have him act and wrestle like Hogan. that would be really funny and if they didn't think the fans would think it was funny they could have the announcers laugh really loud so people would think it was funny because the announcers were laughing at it. thank you

Posted By: Guest#8072 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:26 AM

 
 
You should review RAW next week with a live perception of the show that'd be cool.

Posted By: Klossing (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:31 AM

 
 
Kind of disappointed this week. Raw started out so good with Undertaker/Michaels then it just got disappointing after that. HHH/Orton stuff was still cool tonight and the Stephanie in the car segment should've been this week's cliffhanger.

Raw's going to need to step it up big time next week and hopefully Austin will finally show up.


Posted By: Hot Pocket (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:42 AM

 
 
You think that new WWE Encyclopedia is going to have Chris Benoit mentioned in it?

You would think it wouldn't, but if it doesn't then it isn't a complete Encyclopedia. It's not like he would have to be on the cover or the main selling point so would it be so wrong?


Posted By: Anon (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 03:09 AM

 
 
"...unlike the ending to "The Wrestler" it won't be ambigious. It will be tragic."

How true.

Wasn't going to buy Mania anyways, but if they wanted to cement that fact, they pretty much did this week. I guess they can;t control if Austin doesn;t want to wrestle Jericho, but at least get him a better match than this one, even if you have to ditch the legends angle at the last minute and go elsewhere to get one.

And the HHH machine is once again destroying all in it's path. You knew that would happen again, now it's just a few more weeks of the "cerebral assassin" getting over on everyone and reminding us of his many nicknames. I really hate that guy.


Posted By: Omni (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 03:34 AM

 
 
I think Jericho will dominate the legends, bitch slap Flair, and start taunting Rourke.
Then, the glass can shatter, the newest HOFer can get his WM moment (see Hogan at WM21), kick wham stunner, Jericho gets pinned, and we try to forget about the whole underwhelming mess and look forard to HBK/Undertaker.


Posted By: Mr Quimby's Beard (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 04:05 AM

 
 
It could be called a handicap match not because its 3 on 1, but because of piper, snuka, and steamboats special parking permits.
Posted By: CF (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 12:56 AM

That is the funniest thing I've EVER read on any comments. I laughed my ass off.


Posted By: R Cas (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 04:41 AM

 
 
Did anybody else see the picture on 411 and think "what, Lance Storm returned?!! Oh... that's Orton..." or just me?

Posted By: Tim (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 06:03 AM

 
 
To the idiots who wondered why there was no mention of Test, read this:
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/99534/Prescription-Steroids-and
-Painkillers-Found-in-Andrew-%5C%27Test-Martins-Apartment-.htm

Looks like he's gonna get the Benoit treatment.


Posted By: Guest#5878 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 06:16 AM

 
 
wrestling is bulshit

Posted By: yo (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 06:25 AM

 
 
I know we don't know the "official plan" but ...

Raw was in Texas
The date was "3-16"
They showed Austin winning the title as a Wrestlemania moment right after the Jericho thing...

really disappointed he wasn't there.


Posted By: Kevin (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 06:27 AM

 
 
instead of austin coming for mania.. could it be batista???

does anyone know if his injury was major or minor?

because i doubt if austin would be in shape for a match, isn't his neck and knee are in bad shape to do wrestling anymore


Posted By: catsa (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 06:28 AM

 
 
Not a good show, the Jericho thing has turned out to be a big let down for me.

Posted By: jbardo (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:11 AM

 
 
Is it cool to hate on Triple H again? Yes.

Posted By: PDM (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:16 AM

 
 
Raw was pretty bad this week, ESPECIALLY considering this is a lead in for Mania. However, cant we all agree this show wasnt even half as bad as TNA's ppv last night. And hell I watched it for free and still want my money back!

Posted By: AG Awesome (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:17 AM

 
 
"Is it just me or is it bothersome to anyone else that Test was't even mentioned throughout the show. Heck,the WWE even did a tribute to Louis Spicoli who had little to no career with the WWE. What a crap move."

Posted By: chris (Guest)

While I agree with everyone who feels that the lack of mention of Andrew Martin's passing was totally classless (I've posted my extensive thoughts on this and the disgust I feel over the WWE on this matter in the Test/Painkiller/Steroid story thread), I have to correct you. Louie Spiccoli did wrestle in the WWE/F, as Rad Radford.

Still, I've said a lot about it in the other thread, but I'll say it here too. Vince McMahon and the WWE should be ashamed of themselves for the lack of respect and farewell for Test. Just another dead wrestler, right Vince? God forbid if your fucking name was tarnished anymore than it has been. Never mind the 33 year old man who has been lost and who gave eight years of his life to your company. DISGUSTING!


Posted By: Devin (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:24 AM

 
 
Jericho vs the Nursing Home Wrecking Crew is a very nice line. Good job.


I was thinking more along the lines of "the four corpse men"


Posted By: dorado (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:25 AM

 
 
nopureone1 and klonidier are probably a couple of acne-faced 14 year olds who look at 1970's Farrah Fawcett pics and then wonder what to do with the little stiffy's they got going between their hairless legs..."Come to my YouTube page and take it up with me"? Please...like Flair says, to be the man you have to beat the man, and neither one of you two could beat your way out of a wet paper bag.

Although I do have to give you a little credit, you are both right in saying this week's Raw sucked. But then again, of course, any gimp would know that.

I do have to say it's almost suprising that the Jericho thing hasn't resulted in "Real American" blasting over the speakers with Hogan coming to the ring and saying "YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LEGENDS BROTHERRRRR, WHY DON'T YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HULKAMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOU?!?!"

It wouldn't be a total shocker to see some shit similar to that happening in the weeks before WM...


Posted By: LaughingMyBallsOff (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:25 AM

 
 
EPIC
EPIC FAIL
Michael Cole says vintage alot.
Was it a one shot deal? LMAO
John Cena is the worst thing to ever happen to wrestling because thats what the internet told me.
Its an outrage that Koko B. Ware got into the meaningless Hall of Fame for a fake sport before Macho Man just because he banged Stephanie.
I hate WWE so much and am appaled by the product they put out so deeply, that I am going to continue to watch every second of said programming so that I may tear it apart in a post on 411 that 50 people will read.
RANDY ORTON OMG!!! He's the FUTURE of the business even though he's been in the main event for 5 years.
LOLOMGROTFLLMAOLMFAOIMAOPWNED
Anyone that disagrees with my divine opinion is an
A)30 year old virgin living in their mother's basement
B)13 year old virgin who gets beat up at school.
EPIC

There ya go losers just copy and paste i saved you the trouble of typing.


Posted By: 90 % of all 411 tools (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:48 AM

 
 
Randy Orton needs to be limited to 10 words or fewer. Chimpanzees have better speaking skills than Orton.

Posted By: Fury (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:51 AM

 
 
I'm surprised at how many are saying they didn't enjoy the show. I marked out when HHH signaled the cage to be lowered. Come on, that's unique and a good way to further the feud... letting Randy and HHH be pretty nose to nose without touching. As far as Jericho, clearly it's leading up to Austin coming down to finish him off. This way, Austin doesn't have to work a whole match. Lighten up folks. Remember why you started watching wrestling in the first place. You have to put your adult-bitterness/jaded-selves aside and remember you probably started watching this stuff as a kid.

Posted By: Liked It (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 09:18 AM

 
 
I could've SWORN Austin was coming out at two or three different points in that Jericho segment.

Posted By: The REAL MP (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM

You are not the only one......


Posted By: cj (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 09:32 AM

 
 
"I wonder if after jumping the gun on Benoit, Vince is a little gun-shy about acknowledging anybody's death on air until all the facts (or maybe even until the autopsy reports) are in. Test's father did say that there were no indications of violence or suicide in an interview with Canadian news, but that's not an official acknowledgement."

Posted By: JeffS (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM
_____________________

What he said.

Not a great Raw last night by any stretch of the imagination, but not as terrible as some seem to think. The image of Triple H taunting Randy Orton from inside the cage is gonna be one that will be featured often in the buildup and climax to this feud, trust me. And hell, the Intercontinental Championship might just be defended at Wrestlemania for the first time in seven years. Yeah, it'll be a match with JBL in it, but what the hell.

Also, I think it was Ryan Byers who stated at one point, and I have to agree, that at NO TIME did WWE ever promise or give any mention that Stone Cold Steve Austin was going to play any part in the Chris Jericho angle leading into Wrestlemania. This was a pure rumor. An infuriating thing about some internet fans, and here, it's laid bare, is that upon hearing a rumor (never mind from where, or how credible or likely it may seem) a sense of entitlement begins to build up towards the rumor coming to fruition. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But anytime it doesn't, people get so incredibly pissed that the idea they had IN THEIR MIND of how things were going to be didn't turn out that way. It's the equivalent of your big brother telling you you're getting an XBox for Christmas, just to fuck with you, and your unjustified disappointment at getting a sweater instead.

Hell, I wanted Austin to get involved last night, too...lord knows the door was wide open for him to do so. But I know it was never a sure thing, and this whole bullshit "outrage" from a lot of people who're acting as though it ever was, is a bit over the top.

We know Mickey Rourke is gonna be at Wrestlemania, chances are he'll get involved in some way. Austin will be around, maybe he'll get involved, too. No need for anyone to soil themselves in fury just yet.


Posted By: BJC (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 10:30 AM

 
 
Is it just me or does Dolph Ziggler look like a smaller Billy Gunn/Cute Kip. I half expect him to come out with tights that say Mr. A$$.

Posted By: BG James (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM

 
 
Devin... you're missing the point. WWE is now a "TV-PG" company and they can't be even remotely connected to someone who has done or may have done steroids that is the cause of death. The further distance they put between themselves and Andrew, the better the WWE (As a company) will be.

No Disrespect to Test intended (He was alright). Still... before we crucify McMahon and Co, Let's get on TNA! Andrew wrestled THERE, but I saw no mention of him at Destination X

Or is this another WW Bashing/TNA Lovefest I mistakening walked into? If you're going to criticize Devon, be fair and do it BOTH ways!


Posted By: Guest#0771 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM

 
 
comment of the night Christian"get your hands out of myu face you little freak"

Posted By: The Legend (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM

 
 
man, oh man, do i have a number of issues:

first and foremost, not one mention of test? i understand he has not worked for the wwe is a long time, but c'mon. he was a major wwf player in the early 2000's. and not just that, he is/was friends with a lot of current wwe wrestlers. they couldn't even put a picture of him with a r.i.p out of respect for the man? awful. shame on the wwe.

second, why can't the wwe leave well enough alone and allow two wrestlers who have mutual respect for each other wrestle without one of them turning heel? i'm talking michaels and undertaker. did the wwe really need to turn michaels heel? did the wwe really need to have michaels and taker become enemies before the match? the match was destined to be one of the best at wm25 anyway. i truly hate it that they just cannot allow two wrestlers to fight each other without one of them being a heel.

third, jericho vs piper, steamboat & snuka? really? i mean, really really? snuka looks like he can't move, piper's stomach is bigger than jericho, and steamboat is so rusty you can see the rust fall off him in the ring. if they make jericho job to these old timers after the year he had in 2008, i'll be royally pissed.


Posted By: Double C (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM

 
 
This was awful. I'm not surprised they didn't make a mention of Test after the whole Benoit issue though.

As of this point the buildup to WM has been underwhelming. The fact that they've now added JBL vs. Rey Mysterio with NO build shows me that they are just hoping people will order the ppv because of the Wrestlemania brand name.

The Triple Threat match is less about the title and more about who loves the GM? Ridiculous! I could imagine how everyone would be up in arms if this happened over in TNA.

As for Jericho, there is no amount of shame I feel in having him go up against the Old Folks Home clique after owning the WWE all of last year.

Looks like i'll be watching MLB Opening Day instead of WM.


Posted By: Orlando (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM

 
 
Devin... you're missing the point. WWE is now a "TV-PG" company and they can't be even remotely connected to someone who has done or may have done steroids that is the cause of death. The further distance they put between themselves and Andrew, the better the WWE (As a company) will be.

No Disrespect to Test intended (He was alright). Still... before we crucify McMahon and Co, Let's get on TNA! Andrew wrestled THERE, but I saw no mention of him at Destination X

Or is this another WW Bashing/TNA Lovefest I mistakening walked into? If you're going to criticize Devon, be fair and do it BOTH ways!

Posted By: Guest#0771 (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I'm not missing the point at all. PG rating or not, is it so taboo to say, "Yeah, he made some mistakes, but regardless, we will acknowledge the sad loss of a great person who had many friends here and contributed to our company for a number of years"? I don't think that's too much to ask. And yes, maybe TNA didn't run a graphic during their PPV, but Booker T did mention Test live on the mic to the audience in attendance at a house show the night before and they did also (yes WWE did too) mention it on their website. Not to mention, Martin had a cup of coffee in TNA while he had a long tenure in WWE and also held several of their championships. Eddie, Bulldog, Hennig, Pillman, etc., all died of related things, and ALL received plenty of praise and memorials after their deaths through the WWE. I just don't see why Test should be any different. I'm sure the story would be the opposite if HHH or Batista died of a steroid or pill related heart-attack. They may leave out the sad truth to the details, but they'd still be recognized, main event or not. Wrestling should be a brotherhood, but the WWE certainly does not represent it as one, and okay, neither does TNA. The whole thing is just sad and backwards. And do you really think mentioning the death of another young wrestler would tarnish the company's reputation any further? In the words of Gorilla Monsoon; "Highly unlikely". Vince and company have had a big black mark drawn on them for years and the media will never let up, regardless of how "PG" they pretend to be.


Posted By: Devin (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM

 
 
Wow...this whole fucking buildup for Jericho and we get....this????

Posted By: Guest#0511 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM

 
 
I've never heard a formerly popular wrestler get as little of a reaction as Jimmy Snuka. It's just plain sad. Duggan, Lawler, and even Koko get better crowd reactions.

To think this was the guy who was 2nd only to Hogan in popularity in the first part of the 80s. Vince should have realized after Snuka got ZERO reaction during his first comeback at WrestleMania V (in 1989!!!) that nobody would ever care about him anymore.

George The Animal Steele would have been a far better choice in the Snuka role in this feud.


Posted By: Jason S (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM

 
 
Where the fuck was Austin?

Posted By: MBD (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 01:24 PM

 
 
Also, I think it was Ryan Byers who stated at one point, and I have to agree, that at NO TIME did WWE ever promise or give any mention that Stone Cold Steve Austin was going to play any part in the Chris Jericho angle leading into Wrestlemania. This was a pure rumor. An infuriating thing about some internet fans, and here, it's laid bare, is that upon hearing a rumor (never mind from where, or how credible or likely it may seem) a sense of entitlement begins to build up towards the rumor coming to fruition. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But anytime it doesn't, people get so incredibly pissed that the idea they had IN THEIR MIND of how things were going to be didn't turn out that way.

Posted By: BJC (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 10:30 AM

while you are true, it doesn't help the fact that jim ross talked about how steve austin was and i'm paraphasing, training and in the best shape of his life. But, part of what made me mad was that I was expecting maybe not austin but definitely something BIG after the great promos jericho cut and to get this was well, a bit of a letdown. I'll say this though, i'm not FULLY drawn in that it's going to be jericho vs the legends, i'll wait and see but if things stand, i'll be watching mania just for taker-hbk, and the mitb match.


Posted By: cj (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 01:46 PM

 
 
I won't even waste an hour later watching my DVR of this show. Amazing how they've blown up what was a promising Wrestlemania over the last couple weeks.

Posted By: Shockmaster (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:00 PM

 
 
The real question is why hasnt Jericho picked on the Funks? Perhaps that is the surprise....

I would love to see Terry Funk give Jericho an asswhipping (if he could go).... That would be either Hardcore or could end up getting Tommy Dreamer involved into the angle (Thus giving Tommy his Wrestlemania moment).


Posted By: tstrike (Registered)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:06 PM

 
 
This may be a little out of left field, but what about Jericho vs. Chavo at Wrestlemania? They could play off the whole "respect history" bit with Chavo's family (including Eddie) as legends. At the very least, we'd get an awesome match, one that could reestablish Chavo as a player, and give Jericho a bit more respect than this downward spiral of crap he is currently in.

Posted By: Guest#5456 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:25 PM

 
 
Hell guys get dqed for bringing in a weapon but HHH drills Cody with the sledgehammer and nothing happens. I think Barry Horowitz got more offense when he got squashed.

Posted By: graves9 (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:58 PM

How was that a burial? It took a sledgehammer for a former world champion to beat Cody Rhodes. That speaks pretty highly for Mr. Rhodes.

As for why he didn't get dq'd. If i remember correctly he did not hit him with the hammer until the cage was lowered and cage matches are no dq. Plus Triple H could have used his connections to make it an official cage match, so that means the no dq clause happens no matter whether the cage is around the ring or not


Posted By: Jeremy from Palmdale (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:38 PM

 
 
There's news running that officials at USA Network asked the WWE to not do an "Im Memory" graphic at the beginning of the show because of the circumstances surrounding drugs and steroids. Since the WWE doesn't want to lose their edge on USA, they complied.

Posted By: Guest#9063 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 02:48 PM

 
 
gutted about the jericho angle i hope this is just a swerve and not for real cant we do a little better for the 25th aniversary

Posted By: lukestrutter (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 03:10 PM

 
 
This may be a little out of left field, but what about Jericho vs. Chavo at Wrestlemania? They could play off the whole "respect history" bit with Chavo's family (including Eddie) as legends. At the very least, we'd get an awesome match, one that could reestablish Chavo as a player, and give Jericho a bit more respect than this downward spiral of crap he is currently in.

Posted By: Guest#5456 (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 02:25 PM

Plain and simple - the WWE thinks the fans want to see old crippled men wrestle rather than a guaranteed *** match between Jericho and Chavo.


Posted By: Guest#6526 (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 03:25 PM

 
 
Does anybody else want one of those AWESOME "Carlton Banks" T-shirts, like the one the guy in the crowd had on RAW?

Posted By: The Great Capt. Smooth (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 04:27 PM

 
 
Will Test be resurrected, or was it just a one death deal?

Posted By: Prince Albert (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 04:34 PM

 
 
Dear Nopureone 1,

Chill. Relax, and most most importantly, CHILLAX. Other people can like Raw last night. It's okay. You didn't like it. Other people did. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Move on. You've got to be kidding about Bastion Booger, The Gobblede Gooker and Katie Vick. They are three of the most useless performers in WWE history.

Rememmber; Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

Let Rodney King inspire us all with his famous words; "Can't we all get along?"

Give peace a chance. May the rainbow always touch your shoulder. May The Force Be With You. You're good enough, smart enough, and , dog on it, people like you.

Sincerely,

Your IWC homie,

Chico ( :


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 05:27 PM

 
 
Fuck you wrestling fans!
Raw sucked major dick tonight and any body who liked this piece of trash is a fucking moronic Hardy boy fan!
Man I miss the old days when guys like Bastion Booger The Gobblede Gooker and Katie Vick were kicking ass and taking names they certainly would go out their pummel dipshits like Edge into oblivion!
Me and my friends ladder06, klonidier, Jeshire and randzilla25 all agree that raw has sucked major ass since they stopped doing the Katie Vick angle and shoved assholes like Randy Orton Edge Christian Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy and especially Batista down our throats!
Those people are the reason why the WWE is horrible right now and things aren’t gonna get any better as long as you morons continue to support this drivel!
And if you retards have any problem with that than come to my Youtube page (nopureone1) and take it up with me!
Unless of course you’re to chicken to go!
(Makes chicken clucking noise)

Posted By: nopureone1 (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM

WOOO!!! Way to go nopureone1 you are the man! As the man said Raw sucked ass and so do all you people! Shawn Michaels vs the Undertaker sucked dick in the late 90's and it certaintly sucks dick today as well! And hey you too can onto my Youtube page as well if you have you’re man enough to face me losers! HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Oh and J.D. Dunn is WAY better than McNew.

Posted By: klonidier (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Who de phawk is these guys? Why you open you mouth like that? Yous no good piece of sheet. You talk bout sheet in WWF you piece of sheet. I put you guys in camel clutch, phawk you ass. Make you humble. You want talk sheet on tubeyou? You phawk with wrong guy you stupid mother phawkers. I WWF champion. Hogan never beat me. I still champion. Even today. I make Bob Backlund humble, I make Hulk Hogan humble, I make yous guys humble. Russia, nembar won, Iran nembar won, nopureone1 and klonidier, Haaawk toowee. I spit on yous moder phawkers.


Posted By: Iron Sheik (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 05:28 PM

 
 
Dear WWE,

According to some viewers and commenters, nothing you ever do will good enough. Don't let them get you down. Maybe they can pool their money together and come up with a "better" promotion that is absolutely perfect in every way, shape and form.

Sincerely,

Your fan since 1984,

Chico


Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 05:34 PM

 
 
Did it occur to anyone that maybe Chris Jericho wants to retire after Wrestlemania and this is his way of doing it?

Posted By: Chico (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 05:35 PM

 
 
Devin... you're missing the point. WWE is now a "TV-PG" company and they can't be even remotely connected to someone who has done or may have done steroids that is the cause of death. The further distance they put between themselves and Andrew, the better the WWE (As a company) will be.

No Disrespect to Test intended (He was alright). Still... before we crucify McMahon and Co, Let's get on TNA! Andrew wrestled THERE, but I saw no mention of him at Destination X

Or is this another WW Bashing/TNA Lovefest I mistakening walked into? If you're going to criticize Devon, be fair and do it BOTH ways!

Posted By: Guest#0771 (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I'm not missing the point at all. PG rating or not, is it so taboo to say, "Yeah, he made some mistakes, but regardless, we will acknowledge the sad loss of a great person who had many friends here and contributed to our company for a number of years"? I don't think that's too much to ask. And yes, maybe TNA didn't run a graphic during their PPV, but Booker T did mention Test live on the mic to the audience in attendance at a house show the night before and they did also (yes WWE did too) mention it on their website. Not to mention, Martin had a cup of coffee in TNA while he had a long tenure in WWE and also held several of their championships. Eddie, Bulldog, Hennig, Pillman, etc., all died of related things, and ALL received plenty of praise and memorials after their deaths through the WWE. I just don't see why Test should be any different. I'm sure the story would be the opposite if HHH or Batista died of a steroid or pill related heart-attack. They may leave out the sad truth to the details, but they'd still be recognized, main event or not. Wrestling should be a brotherhood, but the WWE certainly does not represent it as one, and okay, neither does TNA. The whole thing is just sad and backwards. And do you really think mentioning the death of another young wrestler would tarnish the company's reputation any further? In the words of Gorilla Monsoon; "Highly unlikely". Vince and company have had a big black mark drawn on them for years and the media will never let up, regardless of how "PG" they pretend to be.

Posted By: Devin (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Remember this Vince! When you are running your BILLION DOLLAR business that is being influenced by children that should not have steroid/drug abuse put in the spotlight, don't think of YOUR company and what is best for that...think of what DEVIN wants! Get em Devin!! Douche..


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 07:00 PM

 
 
second, why can't the wwe leave well enough alone and allow two wrestlers who have mutual respect for each other wrestle without one of them turning heel? i'm talking michaels and undertaker. did the wwe really need to turn michaels heel? did the wwe really need to have michaels and taker become enemies before the match? the match was destined to be one of the best at wm25 anyway. i truly hate it that they just cannot allow two wrestlers to fight each other without one of them being a heel.

Posted By: Double C (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Sooooo....how is one of them a heel?? HBK is a heel because of the superkick?? Ummmmmm didn't Undertaker try to give him the big boot IN THE RING!? They are both after each in the SAME way! It doesn't make one or the other heel, it makes them both hungry for their battle of the BEST!! Better luck next time :)


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 07:03 PM

 
 
Chico, you da man

Posted By: Furey (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 08:53 PM

 
 
Is this the end of the brand extension?

From ticketmaster.com

Ad for Raw at the Cajundome in Lafayette, La. in June:

Time has changed from 6:30pm to 7:15pm.
Due to a scheduling conflict, the Tuesday, January 6, 2009 WWE presents "Smackdown/ECW" televised live event at 6:00pm at Cajundome has been rescheduled for Monday, June 8, 2009 at 6:30pm as a Monday Night Raw televised event.

Tickets printed/purchased with the original Tuesday, January 6, 2009 date will be honored on the new date of Monday, June 8, 2009.


Posted By: toddzilla (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM

 
 
How was that a burial? It took a sledgehammer for a former world champion to beat Cody Rhodes. That speaks pretty highly for Mr. Rhodes.

As for why he didn't get dq'd. If i remember correctly he did not hit him with the hammer until the cage was lowered and cage matches are no dq. Plus Triple H could have used his connections to make it an official cage match, so that means the no dq clause happens no matter whether the cage is around the ring or not

Posted By: Jeremy from Palmdale (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 02:38 PM

why dont you admit to yourself and the world you are nothing but a huge HUNTARD mark !


Posted By: HHH Hater (Guest)  on March 17, 2009 at 11:07 PM

 
 
didn't they learn from the wm16 main event with big show...

Posted By: kc (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 12:01 AM

 
 
Is this the end of the brand extension?

From ticketmaster.com

Ad for Raw at the Cajundome in Lafayette, La. in June:

Time has changed from 6:30pm to 7:15pm.
Due to a scheduling conflict, the Tuesday, January 6, 2009 WWE presents "Smackdown/ECW" televised live event at 6:00pm at Cajundome has been rescheduled for Monday, June 8, 2009 at 6:30pm as a Monday Night Raw televised event.

Tickets printed/purchased with the original Tuesday, January 6, 2009 date will be honored on the new date of Monday, June 8, 2009.

Posted By: toddzilla (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Tard, it's just a super-show...it happens


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 01:18 AM

 
 
Terrible show this week

Posted By: Dwayne (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 01:22 AM

 
 
Remember this Vince! When you are running your BILLION DOLLAR business that is being influenced by children that should not have steroid/drug abuse put in the spotlight, don't think of YOUR company and what is best for that...think of what DEVIN wants! Get em Devin!! Douche..

Posted By: Erik (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 07:00 PM

Listen you little brainless pissant, are you a member of Vince's "Kiss My Ass Club"? I don't condone drug use in any sport or profession nor am I a fan of big roid freaks. All I'm talking about here is remembering a person for who they were and their contributions. Yes, the drug issue does put a damper on any wrestler's legacy, however, he still was a person who was well liked among his peers, was he not? If you were to die as a person with some substance issues, would you want to be cast aside as an afterthought just because of that reason alone? That's all I was saying here. I've been a massive fan of Vince McMahon's company for over 25 years. It's not the company as a whole that I'm bashing. It's simply the way they chose to deal with this particular issue. The only douche here is YOU, immature twat and I'm entitled to an opinion like the rest of us, so FUCK YOU, Erik;)


Posted By: Devin (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 07:47 AM

 
 
I'll be facing Jericho! And in my corner, there would be Mayor McCheese, the Hamburglar, Grimace, Birdie the Early Bird, and The Fry Kids!!

FEAR US!!!

Posted By: Ronald McDonald (Guest) on March 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM
----------------------------------------

Oh yeah well I'm gonna be in Jericho's corner along with Long John Silver, The Chik Fil-A cow, and The Arby's oven mitt.

FEAR US RONALD!!!


Posted By: The King from Burger King (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 09:56 AM

 
 
Sooooo....how is one of them a heel?? HBK is a heel because of the superkick?? Ummmmmm didn't Undertaker try to give him the big boot IN THE RING!? They are both after each in the SAME way! It doesn't make one or the other heel, it makes them both hungry for their battle of the BEST!! Better luck next time :)

Posted By: Erik (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 07:03 PM

yo, erik, do you not know how wrestling works? do you remember why undertaker went after michaels in the ring? because while undertaker was setting up for the chokeslam, michaels went for the hot tag and the sweet chin music in order to steal the spotlight. he didn't need to do that, he did it because the wwe wanted there to be heat between undertaker and michaels. and then, after the undertaker chases michaels up the ramp, michaels sneaks behind taker and sweet chin music's him? that, young grasshopper, turns michaels heel. and that's my beef with the wwe. they do not need to make one wrestler turn against the other in order for there to be a good match. they did the same thing with michaels/hogan those years back.

the michaels - flair match from last wrestlemania was a prime example of two wrestlers who had respect for one another who didn't need to turn against each other for there to be a good match. we need more of them.


Posted By: Double C (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM

 
 
How was that a burial? It took a sledgehammer for a former world champion to beat Cody Rhodes. That speaks pretty highly for Mr. Rhodes.

As for why he didn't get dq'd. If i remember correctly he did not hit him with the hammer until the cage was lowered and cage matches are no dq. Plus Triple H could have used his connections to make it an official cage match, so that means the no dq clause happens no matter whether the cage is around the ring or not

Posted By: Jeremy from Palmdale (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 02:38 PM

why dont you admit to yourself and the world you are nothing but a huge HUNTARD mark !

Posted By: HHH Hater (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Great way of arguing a logical point, by accusing someone of being a fan


Posted By: Logic Mark (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM

 
 
Remember this Vince! When you are running your BILLION DOLLAR business that is being influenced by children that should not have steroid/drug abuse put in the spotlight, don't think of YOUR company and what is best for that...think of what DEVIN wants! Get em Devin!! Douche..

Posted By: Erik (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 07:00 PM

Listen you little brainless pissant, are you a member of Vince's "Kiss My Ass Club"? I don't condone drug use in any sport or profession nor am I a fan of big roid freaks. All I'm talking about here is remembering a person for who they were and their contributions. Yes, the drug issue does put a damper on any wrestler's legacy, however, he still was a person who was well liked among his peers, was he not? If you were to die as a person with some substance issues, would you want to be cast aside as an afterthought just because of that reason alone? That's all I was saying here. I've been a massive fan of Vince McMahon's company for over 25 years. It's not the company as a whole that I'm bashing. It's simply the way they chose to deal with this particular issue. The only douche here is YOU, immature twat and I'm entitled to an opinion like the rest of us, so FUCK YOU, Erik;)

Posted By: Devin (Guest) on March 18, 2009 at 07:47 AM

Lol...yes, that showed your maturity right there...it's not whether he deserves to be noted on RAW for his death...it's simply how you run a business that's being directed toward kids, do i agree that Vince should avoid things like this?? Not entirely...but it's his business and listening to anyone else is the last thing on his mind. Kids shouldn't have a death caused by a possible overdose put on their screens...i wouldn't want my kids to see that...it's called innocence. Thanks for the laugh though


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 07:01 PM

 
 
Sooooo....how is one of them a heel?? HBK is a heel because of the superkick?? Ummmmmm didn't Undertaker try to give him the big boot IN THE RING!? They are both after each in the SAME way! It doesn't make one or the other heel, it makes them both hungry for their battle of the BEST!! Better luck next time :)

Posted By: Erik (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 07:03 PM

yo, erik, do you not know how wrestling works? do you remember why undertaker went after michaels in the ring? because while undertaker was setting up for the chokeslam, michaels went for the hot tag and the sweet chin music in order to steal the spotlight. he didn't need to do that, he did it because the wwe wanted there to be heat between undertaker and michaels. and then, after the undertaker chases michaels up the ramp, michaels sneaks behind taker and sweet chin music's him? that, young grasshopper, turns michaels heel. and that's my beef with the wwe. they do not need to make one wrestler turn against the other in order for there to be a good match. they did the same thing with michaels/hogan those years back.

the michaels - flair match from last wrestlemania was a prime example of two wrestlers who had respect for one another who didn't need to turn against each other for there to be a good match. we need more of them.

Posted By: Double C (Guest) on March 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Who cares if he took the tag? Lots of people do that...Cena, Batista, Taker, etc....it's always a point of one-upsmanship in many matches over the years...that isn't heelish, it's done often by faces...but trying to kick Shawn and chasing him is just the same that Michaels did with Sweet Chin Music


Posted By: Erik (Guest)  on March 18, 2009 at 07:03 PM

 
 
EPIC
EPIC FAIL
Michael Cole says vintage alot.
Was it a one shot deal? LMAO
John Cena is the worst thing to ever happen to wrestling because thats what the internet told me.
Its an outrage that Koko B. Ware got into the meaningless Hall of Fame for a fake sport before Macho Man just because he banged Stephanie.
I hate WWE so much and am appaled by the product they put out so deeply, that I am going to continue to watch every second of said programming so that I may tear it apart in a post on 411 that 50 people will read.
RANDY ORTON OMG!!! He's the FUTURE of the business even though he's been in the main event for 5 years.
LOLOMGROTFLLMAOLMFAOIMAOPWNED
Anyone that disagrees with my divine opinion is an
A)30 year old virgin living in their mother's basement
B)13 year old virgin who gets beat up at school.
EPIC

There ya go losers just copy and paste i saved you the trouble of typing.

Posted By: 90 % of all 411 tools (Guest) on March 17, 2009 at 08:48 AM

Yep because obviously you're a winner. Ugh.


Posted By: Guest#1174 (Guest)  on March 20, 2009 at 01:19 AM

 
 
I had such high hopes for the "25th" anniversary of WM.

Posted By: Propagandhi (Guest)  on March 20, 2009 at 03:24 PM

 
 
"Lol...yes, that showed your maturity right there...it's not whether he deserves to be noted on RAW for his death...it's simply how you run a business that's being directed toward kids, do i agree that Vince should avoid things like this?? Not entirely...but it's his business and listening to anyone else is the last thing on his mind. Kids shouldn't have a death caused by a possible overdose put on their screens...i wouldn't want my kids to see that...it's called innocence. Thanks for the laugh though"

Your kids won't ever see it since you are a fag (that likes to blab about the Goldberg/Sting gay sex angle that NEVER happened you dipshit!!!) and the last time I checked fags can't have kids! Nice try asshole! But it's gonna take more than that to get the better of me loser!


Posted By: Devin (Guest)  on March 30, 2009 at 12:04 PM

 


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