The Name on the Marquee: ECW Legacy 5
Posted by Adam Nedeff on 10.31.2009
Heinousness!
-Your hosts are Joey Styles & Tommy Dreamer.
-This week, we’re looking at ECW’s most heinous moments. The entire first episode taped for TNN will not be included, but this should be good nonetheless.
-Tommy Dreamer talks a little bit about the Sandman-Raven feud and shares a little backstage tale about how life imitated art.
SHANE DOUGLAS ATTACKS PITBULL #1
-So Pitbull #1 had legitimately injured his neck a month earlier in a match against Shane Douglas. Tommy tells the story of Pitbull #1 walking around for a few days and actually going to a chiropractor to have his neck adjusted because he didn’t realize that he was seriously injured.
-So we go to a match pitting Pitbull #2 against Shane Douglas. Pitbull #1 is cheering on his partner’s corner, wearing a brace & harness that cover his entire neck and torso. Pitbull #2 basically has the match won when Francine produces a bag of white powder. This is neither the time nor the place for that, frankly, but Pitbull #2 gets to work on beating the shit out of her, with the running powerslam left intact (I do NOT get the censoring choices made on this show). Shane gets his hands on the powder anyway and manages to blind Pitbull #2, who accidentally wipes out the referee. From there, Shane viciously goes to work on the neck with a DDT (the same move that injured #1) and a chain.
-#1 provides enough inspiration that his partner is able to get free, but Shane grabs his harness and shakes him back & forth. What happens next is NOT what you expect to see from the smarkiest crowd on earth, as a shitload of fans storm the ring and go after Shane, who runs for his life from the building while being chased by Tommy Dreamer (who maintains that he wasn’t in on this) and a handful of fans. Meanwhile, Tod Gordon, Joey Styles, EMTs, and a number of wrestlers run in to check on the Pitbull. Joel Gertner tries to announce Shane Douglas as the winner, which triggers an attack from Tod Gordon. 1 for 1. Much as we all bash Ole Anderson, he made a very valid argument in his shoot interview. It doesn’t matter if the whole world knows that wrestling is a work; you can still make them believe that what they’re seeing is real if you work hard enough at it. And everybody in this angle was working pretty damn hard.
TOMMY DREAMER WATCHES HELPLESSLY
-During a six-man tag involving Tommy Dreamer, the Sandman, and a veritable host of Dudleys, biased referee Jeff Jones and biased ring announcer Joel Gertner get their asses handed to them by Spike Dudley & Beulah. Buh Buh & D-Von counter by handcuffing Tommy Dreamer & Sandman, then murdering Spike with a ladder. They turn their attention to Tommy and get set to kick his ass, but Beulah begs for mercy. She gets 3-Ded as a result. It’s heinous, yeah, but what bothered me was the way that it just came across as another spot in the match. If you want to scare the shit out of the fans, build up to something like this a little bit. 1 for 2.
RAVEN’S NEW FOLLOWER
-The Sandman’s ex-wife comes to the ring and simulates oral sex on Raven. Sandman shows up as says he’s not mad because he already knew that she was a whore.
-A little bit later, Sandman is ready to splatter Raven’s brains with the cane, but suddenly he brings out a cute little Dennis the Menace-looking tyke of eight or so, introducing him to Sandman as “Your son; this is your son, Tyler!” Joey Styles helpfully clarifies by telling us, “That’s the Sandman’s son, Tyler!” I might need to check Wikipedia, but I think this kid is Sandman’s son, Tyler.
-Tyler calls his old man a drunk and announces that he worships Raven now. Beulah, positioning herself as the MVP of this episode, challenges Peaches to a fight, but Raven backs away. Meanwhile, Sandman has been reduced to tears, and that’s great when a character is so firmly established that when he cries, it MEANS something because you just never expect it.
-Raven cuts a super-dick promo bragging about how, after working so hard to raise his kid, Sandman sees the kid simply walk away and go to him instead. He declares himself to be the salvation of the children, and Tyler mimics his pose. And we get something that we don’t get very often at all, motivation, as Raven clarifies that he’s feeling incredibly pissed about his parents’ own divorce years earlier.
-So a little while, at Natural Born Killaz, Sandman just canes everything in sight while Raven hides behind Tyler. A “Cane your kid!” chant erupts, demonstrating what a genius Paul Heyman truly was. If you can make an eight-year-old kid your top heel, you may be a god.
-Sandman instead tries to make peace with his son, but Tyler whacks him with the cane (which he should have followed by yelling “I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!!!”…or not) and leaves with Raven. Sandman lets out an anguished scream of “Tylerrrrrrrrrr!!!” to round things out. Very different, and VERY effective stuff here. 2 for 3.
RVD SHOOTS!
-For those who are screaming “Show me a damn match!” here’s your segment, as we get a very generous portion of Rob Van Dam vs. Lance Storm. RVD just beats the living shit out of Lance Storm with a chair while the crowd chants “Sell-out!” (RVD was doing a WWF-loyalist wannabe thing at this point.) After putting on a clinic of different ways to use a chair, Lance Storm suddenly makes a miracle comeback, but the Van Daminator secures the win.
-Lance offers a hearty handshake post-match, but RVD doesn’t want his respect or these people’s respect! He complains about being used as an injury substitution and says that winning the match under those circumstances, he’s worth more money to ECW…and more money elsewhere. 3 for 4. Good spotfest and an above-average promo by RVD standards. Given how his promos typically aren’t that good, I suspect his good promo is a one-shot deal! OMG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I JUST….AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….I JUST…THOUGHT OF THAT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WIN!
TOMMY DREAMER WINS AND LOSES THE BELT
-Tommy & Taz trade two-counts until Tommy pulls a three-count out of nowhere. Taz presents him with the ECW belt and hugs him, taking a final bow before leaving Tommy in the ring to soak in the accolades from the fans. Tommy delivers a tearful promo. He never made it to Wrestlemania or Starrcade, but he made it to the ECW arena!
-A number of co-workers make their way to the ring to pay their respects to their triumphant comrade, but then along comes Raven…who offers a handshake and a hug. It turns out to be Justin Credible playing the part of Paul Orndorff tonight, taking out Tommy Dreamer and Raven. Justin demands a title shot immediately, and despite being busted open, Tommy goes for it.
-It’s an ECW brawl, complete with the happy little walk through the crowd, and the annoying thing is they don’t even do a high spot when they get there. They literally walk through the crowd, make it to a wall, and then head back to the ring. This leads to another dumb spot where Dreamer lays the bell on Justin’s nuts and then rings it. Why would that hurt?
-Justin mounts a comeback, and a hell of a comeback at that, targeting Tommy’s injured eye and laying into him with a chair. Dreamer refuses to stay down and hits a Death Valley driver on Justin through a table. Justin gets desperate and tries to finish with That’s Incredible, but Tommy kicks out. Francine runs in to beg for Mercy from Justin and Justin tries to go after her. Tommy comes to her rescue and goes for another DVD, but Francine turns on him with a shot to the nuts, and the win is academic for Justin Credible. 3 for 6. Those of you new fans who weren’t watching back then…we fans were incredibly sick of these turns by this point.
-We go back to the studio for Tommy & Joey’s reaction to RVD’s shoot. I can think of one place where it would have been more sensible to do this segment. Funny end to it, as Joey misreads some sarcasm, and Tommy clarifies, "I was riffing, like Tazz-with-two-Z's used to do."
The 411: The two things you need to cover when talking about ECW are its style of wrestling and its style of booking. After four episodes of nothing but matches, they pretty much had to do this episode. And while the Sandman/Raven feud and the Pitbull attack were essentials, some of this stuff just didn't seem historical or noteworthy. Is Rob Van Dam cutting a heel turn promo supposed to look different from other heel turns we've seen? Is ECW copying Vince Russo's booking supposed to make me nod my head appreciatively?
I suspect his good promo is a one-shot deal! OMG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I JUST….AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….I JUST…THOUGHT OF THAT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WIN!
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!
Posted By: The REAL Joe K. (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Fuck youz guy! OMG LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I JUST….AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….I JUST…THOUGHT OF THAT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WIN!
Posted By: RVD 4:20 (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 03:26 AM
"-So a little while, at Natural Born Killaz, Sandman just canes everything in sight while Raven hides behind Tyler. A “Cane your kid!” chant erupts, demonstrating what a genius Paul Heyman truly was. If you can make an eight-year-old kid your top heel, you may be a god."
The best bit about this was the crowd chanting and Sandman refusing.
“Cane your kid!”
"No!"
“Cane your kid!”
"Noo!"
“Cane your kid!”
"Nooo!"
Posted By: Maffew (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 07:21 AM
That RVD/Storm stuff was from Barely Legal and featured Lance hitting Van Dam with the Worst. Chairshot. Ever. to a chorus of boos.
Posted By: neverAcquiesce (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM
That was a waste of my time....no page hits for you in the future...
Posted By: Polish Post (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 11:07 AM
you suddenly went from 3/4 to 3/6.....
Plus, what is this? A mix Tape?
Posted By: JWestmoreland (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 11:17 AM
RVD actually cut really awesome heel promos in ECW. It was when WWE turned him into one big pot joke that his speaking skills seemingly evaporated.
And I'd also argue that we weren't just sick of the constant turns, but Justin Credible in general. Him winning the belt is what killed the promotion for a lot of people. Dude was a second-rate Raven that just collected parts of people's costumes that he beat like Sasuke's mask and Douglas' fringe-y boots. Why exactly am I supposed to hate him for that? He was fine working with Storm in the tag team but when they decided to give him the push to the title is when things died for me.
Posted By: Guest#0093 (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 12:07 PM
I fully agree with Credible. He's a solid enough worker, and he clearly learned something from HBK about bumping. If he had stayed in the ECW midcard, I wouldn't have had a problem. However, they decided to go with him, perhaps because Heyman knew that nobody in their right mind would try to poach him (unlike RVD, who had superstar all over him, despite not going to the WWF until after ECW folded).
Plus, ECW in the last year did the exact same mistake that WCW did in 97-98 in having the heels always win. The NWO dominated WCW TV, much like Credible & the Network dominated ECW, and we got very sick of both the characters and the wrestlers. You would think that when Kid Kash briefly won the TV belt, Heyman may have realized there was something there, but nope, Rhino got the title back and didn't give it up until the end of the company.
Posted By: Michael L (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM
If anybody wants to feel REALLY old, then you can go look up the fact that Tyler Fullington is now a pro wrestler working matches against Raven on the indies.
Posted By: BlackoutCreature (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 02:33 PM
Hey JWestmoreland it's not a mix tape. THis is a monthly series on WWEClassics.com.
Its $4 a month for over 400 hours of old wrestling. Pretty good deal.
Posted By: Ryan (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 06:11 PM
that pitpulls/douglas halo incident made it on to cnn. now THAT is selling an angle
Posted By: BobbyZ (Guest) on October 31, 2009 at 07:47 PM
see this is why scott levy needs to be hired as a storylone consultant
Posted By: jarrod (Guest) on November 01, 2009 at 05:19 AM
"Is ECW copying Vince Russo's booking supposed to make me nod my head appreciatively?"
Posted By: The Man With No Name (Guest) on November 01, 2009 at 01:48 PM
"Is ECW copying Vince Russo's booking supposed to make me nod my head appreciatively?"
Russo and Vince stole Paul's style of booking not the other way around. I hate it when a reviewer can't get his facts straight.
Posted By: fallon6190 (Guest) on November 01, 2009 at 06:45 PM
Okay, so my choice of words sucked. Here's the point as I should have made it. Russo had appropriated that style of booking so thoroughly by the time that this match took place (2000) that it might as well have been his.
Immediate analogy that pops into my head: It's like Jay Leno stealing David Letterman's "Small Town News" from the '80s and turning it into his own "Headlines." Dave did it first, but then Jay did it more, he did it more visibly, and therefore it pretty much became his. It's not fair that Dave had to stop doing the bit for a while, but Jay appropriated it, and that's the way it was.
Well, there was my point. Russo had pretty much claimed "Ally turns on ally in important match with absolutely no groundwork or explanation beforehand just to make the crowd gasp" as his by this point, and even if ECW invented it, it looked lame to me for them to continue doing it.
Posted By: Adam Nedeff1 (Registered) on November 02, 2009 at 04:54 AM
gratuitous PSA reference - love it
Posted By: lambster420 (Guest) on November 07, 2009 at 08:52 AM